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Messi should not be compared with Ronaldo because they are different players playing different wing. Ronaldo is the best 7 and Messi is the best 10 no matter that these two players are rivals to one another and made football more interesting during their reigns due to competing within themselves on who would be the best.

If only Ronaldo can achieve his 1000 goal record in football history, no striker will be able to break such record for many years. Ronaldo has his own potentials likewise Messi too. The only thing that Ronaldo is lacking which Messi has achieved is winning the world cup.

Yes, I agree with you that they should not be compared, their ways of playing football are very different from each other, but when it comes to legendary players it is inevitable, since in the last 20 years or so we have two of the best players of all time playing, and for a long time in the same league. Perhaps we will never witness something similar in football again.

I think each one has their own particularity and is better in a certain situation... the only thing missing is for them both to play on the same team, even if it's just in a festive match to end their careers... it would be sensational to see them playing together.
I am also a little surprised at people who still compare these two players, because they are not players in the same position and their playing styles are different. In my opinion, they are the best players we have ever seen in football. These two players can also last more than a decade with the consistency of their game. Regarding the World Cup title, it should be remembered that they did not get it from their own hard work, but there were many players who contributed greatly to it. This is not an individual achievement, but this is an achievement of the team as a whole. Messi and Ronaldo are at the same level and even now no one can be at their level in my opinion. Even if there were, would they be able to last for years like these two players? I think this is a question that will be difficult to answer.
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Messi should not be compared with Ronaldo because they are different players playing different wing. Ronaldo is the best 7 and Messi is the best 10 no matter that these two players are rivals to one another and made football more interesting during their reigns due to competing within themselves on who would be the best.

If only Ronaldo can achieve his 1000 goal record in football history, no striker will be able to break such record for many years. Ronaldo has his own potentials likewise Messi too. The only thing that Ronaldo is lacking which Messi has achieved is winning the world cup.

Yes, I agree with you that they should not be compared, their ways of playing football are very different from each other, but when it comes to legendary players it is inevitable, since in the last 20 years or so we have two of the best players of all time playing, and for a long time in the same league. Perhaps we will never witness something similar in football again.

I think each one has their own particularity and is better in a certain situation... the only thing missing is for them both to play on the same team, even if it's just in a festive match to end their careers... it would be sensational to see them playing together.


The both legendary players Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, we cannot compare between the two or it would not be justice to one if we say that one is better than the other. Yes, you can have personal preference where some people will like Messi while other will be the fans for Ronaldo. Both these players have different playing ways, where Messi's plays with brilliance moves whereas you will find clinical finishing in Ronaldo's game.

The idea of seeing them play together on the same team, even in a friendly match, is a thrilling one for football fans.   Smiley
I just wonder if any team would be able to win against that team who has these two in same team  Huh
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Messi should not be compared with Ronaldo because they are different players playing different wing. Ronaldo is the best 7 and Messi is the best 10 no matter that these two players are rivals to one another and made football more interesting during their reigns due to competing within themselves on who would be the best.

If only Ronaldo can achieve his 1000 goal record in football history, no striker will be able to break such record for many years. Ronaldo has his own potentials likewise Messi too. The only thing that Ronaldo is lacking which Messi has achieved is winning the world cup.

Yes, I agree with you that they should not be compared, their ways of playing football are very different from each other, but when it comes to legendary players it is inevitable, since in the last 20 years or so we have two of the best players of all time playing, and for a long time in the same league. Perhaps we will never witness something similar in football again.

I think each one has their own particularity and is better in a certain situation... the only thing missing is for them both to play on the same team, even if it's just in a festive match to end their careers... it would be sensational to see them playing together.
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For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage =CUT=CUT= CR7 is a record breaker.
I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!

As we can put it this way, you can't really get all you want in life. He is already a legend in this sports. What more can he ask for in this career? Sure, there will be disappointments, as that is human nature. At the end of the day, it is his self-contentment that matters to live a peaceful life, right?

In my opinion, Ronaldo is looking at Messi's achievements as a point he needs to surpass in order to be number 1. He has already won almost everything, Messi has won everything. And really, when you see a player like Ronaldo who has won everything in Europe, you expect him to also win something on a world level. So not having managed to win the World Cup is a shame for him. And he is right. The worst thing about all this is that Portugal has a good squad, but they can't even reach the final. They lose to very weak teams in the World Cup.
A tree does not make a forest is a very common proverb i believe we all are very well familiar with, in my language, there is also a similar saying that translates to "when a tree stands, another tree will stand beside it, and that is how a forex is formed".

Messi was able to win every award in football including the world cup not because he is the world best, but because he has a team and club members that plays inline with his vision, Argentina won the last world cup not by the effort of Messi alone, but as a result of team understanding themselves and working together.

Ronaldo can achieve what messi have achieved in the coming world cup, if he can get all of his team members to play in accordance with his vision, this is not an easy task unfortunately for him, but I don't think there is any reason for him to be ashamed if by the end of his football career, he is still not able to win the world cup for his country, maybe he can stop looking at Messi's achievements and be grateful for the ones he himself have already achieved.
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For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage =CUT=CUT= CR7 is a record breaker.
I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!
I remembered back in 2020 Ronaldo said in his interview if "the World Cup was a dream." In 2022, after his club lost, he said, "his dream of winning the World Cup for his national team has ended." This shows that the World Cup was an unfulfilled dream of him.

Also, it's wrong to say we can't measure success only by trophies. In fact, trophies are everything for the footballers. A trophy is a thing that will complete a footballer's journey.

The players football teams are competing against each other to get the trophy, and not to be a record holder.
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I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!
The truth is that Cristiano Ronaldo knows very well that the FIFA World Cup is the biggest football trophy and there's no way it can be equivalent to the European Championship he won with the Portugal national team but I believe his reason of saying that winning the Euros in 2016 is the same as winning the World Cup is just to cover up the question of not being able to win every trophy that's been won by his biggest rival Lionel Messi.
Like you rightly said, he's a world record holder and has won a whole lot in football so he should forget about defend winning or not winning the World Cup and focus on his exciting career.
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For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage =CUT=CUT= CR7 is a record breaker.
I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!

As we can put it this way, you can't really get all you want in life. He is already a legend in this sports. What more can he ask for in this career? Sure, there will be disappointments, as that is human nature. At the end of the day, it is his self-contentment that matters to live a peaceful life, right?

In my opinion, Ronaldo is looking at Messi's achievements as a point he needs to surpass in order to be number 1. He has already won almost everything, Messi has won everything. And really, when you see a player like Ronaldo who has won everything in Europe, you expect him to also win something on a world level. So not having managed to win the World Cup is a shame for him. And he is right. The worst thing about all this is that Portugal has a good squad, but they can't even reach the final. They lose to very weak teams in the World Cup.
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hahaha man i know i replied before when the pic was already posted, but i dont see it seems like my browser doesnt charge the image.

What the hell was that declaration from Cristiano Ronaldo? Did he really said that? How he can said he won 2 trophies and for that he doesnt want a world cup.... nobody is gonna believe that Cristiano.

For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage it, this current team will not manage it... as it is probably his last World Cup, he is aware that he will not manage it again... then Cristiano comes with this, like: I don't need this, lol... It's funny... even legends have their "disdain" days. But we all know it was one of his dreams... and that Messi achieved it.
his inability to win in the world cup is not a reason to assume that he's achieved less than is expected of him. We all know that it takes a team to win trophies and when it comes to a top footballing nation that has the potential of winning the world cup, Portugal is definitely not one of the favourite. At the moment it's clear he will never win a world cup cause his age wouldn't let him and even if he's still fit enough, you can't expect that kind of result from Portugal when Spain, Germany, France and England are still filled up with fleets of players that have all in takes to win the world cup. Although by the world classification of an ideal tough trophy, winning the world cup is viewed to be bigger than winning at the Euros but from all standards, all the toughest teams in the world cup are still the same kind of teams at the Euros. Apart from Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, all the other teams that have won the world cup are still part of the euros team.

I'm not suggesting that wining the euros is quantifiable to winning the world cup but we've got to know that he's won everything there's to be won as long as he was playing in a good team that gave him the support that was needed. It's unfortunate that he wouldn't win the world cup at all but regardless, CR7 is a record breaker.

Yes, despite not having won a World Cup, he is one of the best in history and his name is already immortalized in world sports. Several legendary players have also failed to win a World Cup, but that doesn't make him any lesser than Messi, for example. What I think is his biggest motivation at the moment is trying to reach the record of 1,000 goals in official matches, which would be an unattainable record for other players. Despite his advanced age, it is still perfectly possible to reach it in 2 or 3 years.
Messi should not be compared with Ronaldo because they are different players playing different wing. Ronaldo is the best 7 and Messi is the best 10 no matter that these two players are rivals to one another and made football more interesting during their reigns due to competing within themselves on who would be the best.

If only Ronaldo can achieve his 1000 goal record in football history, no striker will be able to break such record for many years. Ronaldo has his own potentials likewise Messi too. The only thing that Ronaldo is lacking which Messi has achieved is winning the world cup.
no one remembers when Ronaldo didn't play as a striker and did some crazy things that were very similar to Messi in terms of quality so let's stop saying that technically Messi is superior to Cristiano, they are two very strong players without an era and we were lucky to have them in the same footballing period, simply spectacular
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hahaha man i know i replied before when the pic was already posted, but i dont see it seems like my browser doesnt charge the image.

What the hell was that declaration from Cristiano Ronaldo? Did he really said that? How he can said he won 2 trophies and for that he doesnt want a world cup.... nobody is gonna believe that Cristiano.

For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage it, this current team will not manage it... as it is probably his last World Cup, he is aware that he will not manage it again... then Cristiano comes with this, like: I don't need this, lol... It's funny... even legends have their "disdain" days. But we all know it was one of his dreams... and that Messi achieved it.
his inability to win in the world cup is not a reason to assume that he's achieved less than is expected of him. We all know that it takes a team to win trophies and when it comes to a top footballing nation that has the potential of winning the world cup, Portugal is definitely not one of the favourite. At the moment it's clear he will never win a world cup cause his age wouldn't let him and even if he's still fit enough, you can't expect that kind of result from Portugal when Spain, Germany, France and England are still filled up with fleets of players that have all in takes to win the world cup. Although by the world classification of an ideal tough trophy, winning the world cup is viewed to be bigger than winning at the Euros but from all standards, all the toughest teams in the world cup are still the same kind of teams at the Euros. Apart from Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, all the other teams that have won the world cup are still part of the euros team.

I'm not suggesting that wining the euros is quantifiable to winning the world cup but we've got to know that he's won everything there's to be won as long as he was playing in a good team that gave him the support that was needed. It's unfortunate that he wouldn't win the world cup at all but regardless, CR7 is a record breaker.

Yes, despite not having won a World Cup, he is one of the best in history and his name is already immortalized in world sports. Several legendary players have also failed to win a World Cup, but that doesn't make him any lesser than Messi, for example. What I think is his biggest motivation at the moment is trying to reach the record of 1,000 goals in official matches, which would be an unattainable record for other players. Despite his advanced age, it is still perfectly possible to reach it in 2 or 3 years.
Messi should not be compared with Ronaldo because they are different players playing different wing. Ronaldo is the best 7 and Messi is the best 10 no matter that these two players are rivals to one another and made football more interesting during their reigns due to competing within themselves on who would be the best.

If only Ronaldo can achieve his 1000 goal record in football history, no striker will be able to break such record for many years. Ronaldo has his own potentials likewise Messi too. The only thing that Ronaldo is lacking which Messi has achieved is winning the world cup.
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hahaha man i know i replied before when the pic was already posted, but i dont see it seems like my browser doesnt charge the image.

What the hell was that declaration from Cristiano Ronaldo? Did he really said that? How he can said he won 2 trophies and for that he doesnt want a world cup.... nobody is gonna believe that Cristiano.

For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage it, this current team will not manage it... as it is probably his last World Cup, he is aware that he will not manage it again... then Cristiano comes with this, like: I don't need this, lol... It's funny... even legends have their "disdain" days. But we all know it was one of his dreams... and that Messi achieved it.
his inability to win in the world cup is not a reason to assume that he's achieved less than is expected of him. We all know that it takes a team to win trophies and when it comes to a top footballing nation that has the potential of winning the world cup, Portugal is definitely not one of the favourite. At the moment it's clear he will never win a world cup cause his age wouldn't let him and even if he's still fit enough, you can't expect that kind of result from Portugal when Spain, Germany, France and England are still filled up with fleets of players that have all in takes to win the world cup. Although by the world classification of an ideal tough trophy, winning the world cup is viewed to be bigger than winning at the Euros but from all standards, all the toughest teams in the world cup are still the same kind of teams at the Euros. Apart from Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, all the other teams that have won the world cup are still part of the euros team.

I'm not suggesting that wining the euros is quantifiable to winning the world cup but we've got to know that he's won everything there's to be won as long as he was playing in a good team that gave him the support that was needed. It's unfortunate that he wouldn't win the world cup at all but regardless, CR7 is a record breaker.

Yes, despite not having won a World Cup, he is one of the best in history and his name is already immortalized in world sports. Several legendary players have also failed to win a World Cup, but that doesn't make him any lesser than Messi, for example. What I think is his biggest motivation at the moment is trying to reach the record of 1,000 goals in official matches, which would be an unattainable record for other players. Despite his advanced age, it is still perfectly possible to reach it in 2 or 3 years.
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I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!

As we can put it this way, you can't really get all you want in life. He is already a legend in this sports. What more can he ask for in this career? Sure, there will be disappointments, as that is human nature. At the end of the day, it is his self-contentment that matters to live a peaceful life, right?
I know Cristiano is an ambitious person, I see how he struggled to become a football legend now, but there is no perfection in life, everyone has their limits, the world cup is one example that he could not get.

Portugal is quite proud of Ronaldo's success and makes the country more famous even though Ronaldo could not bring Portugal to become the world cup champion.
Being grateful is the key, creating a new generation that surpasses him might be an option he can do when he can't achieve it. Grin
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For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage =CUT=CUT= CR7 is a record breaker.
I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!

As we can put it this way, you can't really get all you want in life. He is already a legend in this sports. What more can he ask for in this career? Sure, there will be disappointments, as that is human nature. At the end of the day, it is his self-contentment that matters to live a peaceful life, right?

But just to add, there are several sites which are really comparing the achievements of Messi vs Ronaldo, and let us look at some of them at the individual level -


Source: https://www.messivsronaldo.app/individual-awards/
We can say, at first glance that Messi has more awards over Ronaldo. But let us be grateful that we have seen these 2 individuals in their prime. Hard to beat by the new blood in this sports.

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Brazil has successfully to gets the winning result from Ecuador 1-0 i have to says the match is not easy because Ecuador also very discipline and Rodrygo can be considered as man of the match because he scored the only goal in this match and this is positive result from Brazil before facing Paraguay on September 10

However i just realize that seems Brazil has facing crisis for striker position because since qualification stages started the manager only playing Rodrygo, Vinicius and Edrick for different matches on that position which actually their real position is not centre striker but i can see the manager has no choice because Brazil currently have no world class striker
Right. Brazil team has no best striker but they won the last match by doing 1 goal because opponent team Could not do any goal in this match. In this tournament, we will see  good teams and Brazil team have to prepare for World Cup and they need top class striker and if they didn't make that,  they can face more challenges in future. Because small team can prepare well and it can grow well and can get good position on points table.Ecuador national football team did not play well in last match and due to which they lose the match .The shots of that team were not on target and their possession percentage was also low as comparison to their competitor.
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For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage it, this current team will not manage it... as it is probably his last World Cup, he is aware that he will not manage it again... then Cristiano comes with this, like: I don't need this, lol... It's funny... even legends have their "disdain" days. But we all know it was one of his dreams... and that Messi achieved it.
his inability to win in the world cup is not a reason to assume that he's achieved less than is expected of him. We all know that it takes a team to win trophies and when it comes to a top footballing nation that has the potential of winning the world cup, Portugal is definitely not one of the favourite. At the moment it's clear he will never win a world cup cause his age wouldn't let him and even if he's still fit enough, you can't expect that kind of result from Portugal when Spain, Germany, France and England are still filled up with fleets of players that have all in takes to win the world cup. Although by the world classification of an ideal tough trophy, winning the world cup is viewed to be bigger than winning at the Euros but from all standards, all the toughest teams in the world cup are still the same kind of teams at the Euros. Apart from Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, all the other teams that have won the world cup are still part of the euros team.

I'm not suggesting that wining the euros is quantifiable to winning the world cup but we've got to know that he's won everything there's to be won as long as he was playing in a good team that gave him the support that was needed. It's unfortunate that he wouldn't win the world cup at all but regardless, CR7 is a record breaker.
Portugal lacks even squad depth, they need better talent in every area to be able to win the World Cup, at his current age it is indeed a little impossible for Ronaldo to win the World Cup. Ronaldo has broken records throughout his career, even now he is the first person to successfully raise the prestige of the Saudi Pro League on the world football stage. 900 goals during his career, and the ambition to reach 1000, still sounds realistic at this time.

In my opinion, Ronaldo is one of the best players, and has even been able to maintain his level in various competitions until now, when players his age have retired first. Not winning the World Cup is not a bad thing, he was just unlucky in this regard. However, Ronaldo has proven everything when he managed to bring Portugal to win the Euro trophy, when Germany, Spain, France, Italy, England and several other National Teams have better squad depth.

It would be a historic journey if Ronaldo could play in the upcoming 2026 World Cup, because he is already over 40 years old, many people will consider him a burden instead of expecting maximum contribution from him.
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For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage =CUT=CUT= CR7 is a record breaker.

I understand Cristiano's disappointment, but winning the World Cup has always been a dream. Portugal is not favourites, but we cannot measure success only on trophies. He is a record holder and has won everything with the right support. Good luck for the future!
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hahaha man i know i replied before when the pic was already posted, but i dont see it seems like my browser doesnt charge the image.

What the hell was that declaration from Cristiano Ronaldo? Did he really said that? How he can said he won 2 trophies and for that he doesnt want a world cup.... nobody is gonna believe that Cristiano.

For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage it, this current team will not manage it... as it is probably his last World Cup, he is aware that he will not manage it again... then Cristiano comes with this, like: I don't need this, lol... It's funny... even legends have their "disdain" days. But we all know it was one of his dreams... and that Messi achieved it.
his inability to win in the world cup is not a reason to assume that he's achieved less than is expected of him. We all know that it takes a team to win trophies and when it comes to a top footballing nation that has the potential of winning the world cup, Portugal is definitely not one of the favourite. At the moment it's clear he will never win a world cup cause his age wouldn't let him and even if he's still fit enough, you can't expect that kind of result from Portugal when Spain, Germany, France and England are still filled up with fleets of players that have all in takes to win the world cup. Although by the world classification of an ideal tough trophy, winning the world cup is viewed to be bigger than winning at the Euros but from all standards, all the toughest teams in the world cup are still the same kind of teams at the Euros. Apart from Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, all the other teams that have won the world cup are still part of the euros team.

I'm not suggesting that wining the euros is quantifiable to winning the world cup but we've got to know that he's won everything there's to be won as long as he was playing in a good team that gave him the support that was needed. It's unfortunate that he wouldn't win the world cup at all but regardless, CR7 is a record breaker.
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When Marten Paes did a mistakes which caused the penalty i was thought Indonesia certainly will be lost especially Saudi Arabia executor is their captain Salem Aldawsari which we all know Salem Aldawsari is the player who can scored when Saudi Arabia beat Argentina on world cup but surprisingly Marten Paes did fantastic save which make Indonesia not conceded even during this match i have counted Marten Paes at least did 3 fantastic saves and this is actually Marten Paes debut match with Indonesia but he can being an man of the match in this game and save Indonesia from the loses

it must be an amazing debut for a goalkeeper. Managing to bring 1 point from the favored team in the group is advantageous for Indonesia. moreover, it was at the opponent's home, so it was not easy to get the draw considering that Indonesia was not favored to be in Group C of this qualification.
they will face strong opponents. like the next match against Australia. even though playing at home, Indonesia will not easily get victory points.

what was also surprising was the number of Indonesian supporters who attended the match with Saudi Arabia. although not filling the stadium, rumor has it that all the tickets provided by the organizing committee for Indonesian supporters were sold out. then what about when playing at home later against Australia?
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Brazil won yesterday against Ecuador, but didn't inspire much confidence on the public, because the were higher expectations over Brazilian squad. During the first half, Brazil totally dominated the field, while Ecuador adopted a defensive stance. However, from the second half till the end of the match, Ecuador balanced the gameplay and put some pressure over Brazil, especially on the final moments of the game.

The problem was that Ecuador had a hard time shooting in the direction of the rival's goal. Defensively speaking the team is quite decent, with the exception of the goalkeeper, but Ecuador's attack is terrible.

Anyway, if Brazil had a strong team, they would have managed to score at least one more goal. I don't know if the problem are the players lacking skills, or if it's just that there isn't chemistry between them.

Currently the Brazil team is posting very disappointing results. Although they won 1-0 against Ecuador, their performance was not as expected. I will blame the players of the Brazilian team for such a complete collapse. I don't know what their dressing room situation is like, but I don't think it's in a very good position. Just watching their game, it seems that their chemistry with each other is not very good. Each player in the Brazil team performs very well in individual positions, but as a team they lack unity. Brazil team players perform very well outside the national team and they have also tested their mettle. But their performance in the national team is really out of rhythm. Do you blame the lack of chemistry between the players behind such a situation? Or their country's political influence is falling on the football team? Due to the miserable state of the Brazilian team, the fans are not able to trust them.
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hahaha man i know i replied before when the pic was already posted, but i dont see it seems like my browser doesnt charge the image.

What the hell was that declaration from Cristiano Ronaldo? Did he really said that? How he can said he won 2 trophies and for that he doesnt want a world cup.... nobody is gonna believe that Cristiano.

For him, it is practically impossible to win a World Cup, the Portuguese team during its peak did not manage it, this current team will not manage it... as it is probably his last World Cup, he is aware that he will not manage it again... then Cristiano comes with this, like: I don't need this, lol... It's funny... even legends have their "disdain" days. But we all know it was one of his dreams... and that Messi achieved it.
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hahaha man i know i replied before when the pic was already posted, but i dont see it seems like my browser doesnt charge the image.

What the hell was that declaration from Cristiano Ronaldo? Did he really said that? How he can said he won 2 trophies and for that he doesnt want a world cup.... nobody is gonna believe that Cristiano.
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