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AFC qualifiers look interesting. I was actually disappointed with results from Group B, where North Korea went down by a margin of 0-1 against Syria. They are still in contention, but need to win most of the remaining matches now (other two teams in the group are Japan and Myanmar). BTW, India won their first match in Group A, against a strong Kuwait. It will be great news if India can qualify for the main tournament, as they haven't yet featured in the FIFA World Cup. In Group C, China also won their first match (against Thailand), while Indonesia suffered a 1-5 defeat against Iraq.

This time a total of 8.5 teams are going to qualify from the AFC.  Grin
AFC qualifiers are going on with currently we have many matches in progress China suffering defeat against South Korea at home after end of the first half we have 0–2 Son score twice for his team at Shenzhen India going to host Qatar at Bhubaneswar after having surprising win against Kuwait in Kuwait which is surely big deal for the soccer fans in India even we still have long way to go, but things like these are doing good pump for the soccer in India.

Few matches already ended with Pakistan host first time any World Cup qualifier at home against Tajikistan and lost by big margin of 1–6 Turkmenistan leading against Hong Kong, and we have big won for the North Korea as well against Myanmar many good and entertaining matches are going to play in next few hours as well.
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Is fun to see how Asian qualifiers still a very amateur tournament, you can see very high results full of goals and not comparision between teams, that is no longer happening in the rest of the world asides of some very games in europe against """"" countrys""""" like San Marino Gilbraltar etc.
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AFC qualifiers look interesting. I was actually disappointed with results from Group B, where North Korea went down by a margin of 0-1 against Syria. They are still in contention, but need to win most of the remaining matches now (other two teams in the group are Japan and Myanmar). BTW, India won their first match in Group A, against a strong Kuwait. It will be great news if India can qualify for the main tournament, as they haven't yet featured in the FIFA World Cup. In Group C, China also won their first match (against Thailand), while Indonesia suffered a 1-5 defeat against Iraq.

This time a total of 8.5 teams are going to qualify from the AFC.  Grin
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I think Shin Tae-yong will coach the Indonesian national team and of course he will learn from the match against Iraq and today we will see Indonesia against the Philippines and I believe Indonesia has the potential to win that match, and I think Indonesia should be able to able to keep the back line tight. so that the opponent cannot break through and I think Indonesia can win if they can take advantage of the opportunities that exist and in my opinion Indonesia will have a big chance of scoring more goals. I'm sure R. Kambuaya and his friends will play well today. but I think Shin Tae-yong must improve the mentality of Indonesian players so that Indonesia's performance will be better.

However, I am also sure that the Philippines will not want to lose, let alone playing at home and the Philippines will definitely perform well in the next match because usually at home there will be more supporters.

However, I predict that Indonesia will win with a score of 4-1.
Few hours later Philippine vs Indonesia

Its second matches for both national teams and both of them have bad result on opening match of FIFA World Cup qualifier second round, Indonesia defeated by Iraq 5-1 and Philippine loss on the first home match against Vietnam. I don't sure with your goals predicting looks easily Indonesia team will win over 4-1 regarding that match will play unusual field as synthetic grass. Indonesian never have match play with this kinds of filed synthetic grass and need adaption well if want get three points against Philippine although on the paper is easily for three points achievement.

Indonesia's head coach Shin Tae-yong have answer public trusted after losing on the opening match and he should give first three points against Philippine if want secure his position as manager.  As Indonesia fans hope my team will get first three points and make easily for next match against Vietnam.
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I personally also don't think that Indonesia can lose lots to Iraq, especially in terms of scoring points, but in terms of matches, I also think that Iraq has the potential to win because Iraq is a strong opponent because Iraq always enters the Worldcup.

but I have a prediction that Indonesia can recover because the next opponent is the Philippines, so in my opinion, if we play against the Philippines, there is great hope and potential that Indonesia will win, but this is a very tough match because the Philippines is also a tough opponent. but I predict that ShinTae-yong will also train the Indonesian national team to the maximum, of course with strategies that will be maximized. and I also read the news, namely that there was a reason why Indonesia lost, this is the news.
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This defeat should be learning material for the Indonesian national team, especially as they will meet Iraq again in the Asian Cup in the group phase and also in the World Cup Qualifications in the second round. ShinTae-yong must really be able to train his players to prepare everything so they can at least play well and placed first in group F in the Asian zone.
If Indonesia is successful, this will be huge achievement because they will have their first opportunity to play in real event at the 2026 World Cup.
Although later there will always be pressure from Iraq and Vietnam, which have quite good abilities in every match.

Meanwhile, for the match against the Philippines, I quite sure that Indonesia can win the match more easily and can at least save 3 points in the match.
Their match will take place tomorrow but will take place at the Rizal Memorial Stadium in the Philippines, and Indonesia should still be able to dominate the match even though it is home match for the Philippines.
A win with narrow score of 1 - 0 or 2 - 1 could certainly be a worthy result for Indonesia victory later.

I think Shin Tae-yong will coach the Indonesian national team and of course he will learn from the match against Iraq and today we will see Indonesia against the Philippines and I believe Indonesia has the potential to win that match, and I think Indonesia should be able to able to keep the back line tight. so that the opponent cannot break through and I think Indonesia can win if they can take advantage of the opportunities that exist and in my opinion Indonesia will have a big chance of scoring more goals. I'm sure R. Kambuaya and his friends will play well today. but I think Shin Tae-yong must improve the mentality of Indonesian players so that Indonesia's performance will be better.

However, I am also sure that the Philippines will not want to lose, let alone playing at home and the Philippines will definitely perform well in the next match because usually at home there will be more supporters.

However, I predict that Indonesia will win with a score of 4-1.
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But I have to say that the fun is in every game, not just knock-off stage. If anything, I think the group stage is more interesting as there is a chance to make one mistake for example, and still win, like Argentina did as they lost their first game to Saudi Arabia, and then continued to win the whole thing.

At the end of the day FIFA will probably maximize money making designs. We'll see how it goes.
FIFA made many changes to boost the reward they are getting. Even splitting the World Cup between many nations means developing better infrastructure for football, extend its supporters and with the more games you have, the more advertising you have and more sponsors you get which in the end turn to more money for them.
I agree that basically every match in World Cup is watched by millions of people around the world and most of the time by people who aren't even the citizens of these countries. Imagine hearing Saudi Arabia are owning Argentina in football. Everyone will turn the TV to watch this humiliation! World Cup have its own charm Wink

Many people are enjoying this international world cup qualifiers competition, and many players has showed the real identity of their club that is giving their fans joy seeing their players helping the international team to be among the teams that will qualify at the end of the tournament. Every players want to show a new style for their home people to know that they have achieved something good from their clubs that will attract other players that still remain in the international team alone to find their way to other clubs by showcasing their skills, because many coaches are watching the match all over the world to know the type of players that will good for them to sign when another summer occur.
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Yeah, at the end of the day, the main driver of decisions from FIFA will always be money maximizing.

I don't think it necessarily is a bad thing though, for example having now more substitutions and extra time will probably make games more interesting to watch, even though there will be less unique players as you can move them around more often, like in Basketball for example.

Is it something bad? And I don't think that FIFA's main intention is to maximize the revenue. If that was the case, then they can restrict the competition to the top 10-12 teams around the world and make them play against each other 10 times or so. That is not happening. They have expanded the tournament to give adequate representation to all the regions and at the same time they have decided against conducting the tournament once every 2 years. FIFA at this point is going for the optimal balance between revenue generation and growth of the game.
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FIFA made many changes to boost the reward they are getting. Even splitting the World Cup between many nations means developing better infrastructure for football, extend its supporters and with the more games you have, the more advertising you have and more sponsors you get which in the end turn to more money for them.
I agree that basically every match in World Cup is watched by millions of people around the world and most of the time by people who aren't even the citizens of these countries. Imagine hearing Saudi Arabia are owning Argentina in football. Everyone will turn the TV to watch this humiliation! World Cup have its own charm Wink

Yeah, at the end of the day, the main driver of decisions from FIFA will always be money maximizing.

I don't think it necessarily is a bad thing though, for example having now more substitutions and extra time will probably make games more interesting to watch, even though there will be less unique players as you can move them around more often, like in Basketball for example.
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But I have to say that the fun is in every game, not just knock-off stage. If anything, I think the group stage is more interesting as there is a chance to make one mistake for example, and still win, like Argentina did as they lost their first game to Saudi Arabia, and then continued to win the whole thing.

At the end of the day FIFA will probably maximize money making designs. We'll see how it goes.
FIFA made many changes to boost the reward they are getting. Even splitting the World Cup between many nations means developing better infrastructure for football, extend its supporters and with the more games you have, the more advertising you have and more sponsors you get which in the end turn to more money for them.
I agree that basically every match in World Cup is watched by millions of people around the world and most of the time by people who aren't even the citizens of these countries. Imagine hearing Saudi Arabia are owning Argentina in football. Everyone will turn the TV to watch this humiliation! World Cup have its own charm Wink
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I personally also don't think that Indonesia can lose lots to Iraq, especially in terms of scoring points, but in terms of matches, I also think that Iraq has the potential to win because Iraq is a strong opponent because Iraq always enters the Worldcup.

but I have a prediction that Indonesia can recover because the next opponent is the Philippines, so in my opinion, if we play against the Philippines, there is great hope and potential that Indonesia will win, but this is a very tough match because the Philippines is also a tough opponent. but I predict that ShinTae-yong will also train the Indonesian national team to the maximum, of course with strategies that will be maximized. and I also read the news, namely that there was a reason why Indonesia lost, this is the news.
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https://www.bola.net/amp/tim_nasional/shin-tae-yong-beberkan-3-penyebab-timnas-indonesia-dibantai-irak-1-5-di-kualifikasi-piala-dun-13c47a.html

This defeat should be learning material for the Indonesian national team, especially as they will meet Iraq again in the Asian Cup in the group phase and also in the World Cup Qualifications in the second round. ShinTae-yong must really be able to train his players to prepare everything so they can at least play well and placed first in group F in the Asian zone.
If Indonesia is successful, this will be huge achievement because they will have their first opportunity to play in real event at the 2026 World Cup.
Although later there will always be pressure from Iraq and Vietnam, which have quite good abilities in every match.

Meanwhile, for the match against the Philippines, I quite sure that Indonesia can win the match more easily and can at least save 3 points in the match.
Their match will take place tomorrow but will take place at the Rizal Memorial Stadium in the Philippines, and Indonesia should still be able to dominate the match even though it is home match for the Philippines.
A win with narrow score of 1 - 0 or 2 - 1 could certainly be a worthy result for Indonesia victory later.

We know the teams like Iraq and Indonesia can't have good performances in the World Cup compared to the many other teams and they just try to play in the World Cup to improve their team and have a better situation in fact this match was not bad for the Indonesian national team because now they know the weakness in the team and this can help Indonesia to improve themself for the next tournaments they are going to have soon.
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I personally also don't think that Indonesia can lose lots to Iraq, especially in terms of scoring points, but in terms of matches, I also think that Iraq has the potential to win because Iraq is a strong opponent because Iraq always enters the Worldcup.

but I have a prediction that Indonesia can recover because the next opponent is the Philippines, so in my opinion, if we play against the Philippines, there is great hope and potential that Indonesia will win, but this is a very tough match because the Philippines is also a tough opponent. but I predict that ShinTae-yong will also train the Indonesian national team to the maximum, of course with strategies that will be maximized. and I also read the news, namely that there was a reason why Indonesia lost, this is the news.
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https://www.bola.net/amp/tim_nasional/shin-tae-yong-beberkan-3-penyebab-timnas-indonesia-dibantai-irak-1-5-di-kualifikasi-piala-dun-13c47a.html

This defeat should be learning material for the Indonesian national team, especially as they will meet Iraq again in the Asian Cup in the group phase and also in the World Cup Qualifications in the second round. ShinTae-yong must really be able to train his players to prepare everything so they can at least play well and placed first in group F in the Asian zone.
If Indonesia is successful, this will be huge achievement because they will have their first opportunity to play in real event at the 2026 World Cup.
Although later there will always be pressure from Iraq and Vietnam, which have quite good abilities in every match.

Meanwhile, for the match against the Philippines, I quite sure that Indonesia can win the match more easily and can at least save 3 points in the match.
Their match will take place tomorrow but will take place at the Rizal Memorial Stadium in the Philippines, and Indonesia should still be able to dominate the match even though it is home match for the Philippines.
A win with narrow score of 1 - 0 or 2 - 1 could certainly be a worthy result for Indonesia victory later.
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By the way, tonight my country Indonesia will start the journey for World Cup 2026 trough qualifier round, hope get first three winning points to make easily on next match.
Losing to Iraq 5-1, it was quite sad when Indonesia couldn't get at least one point from the national team of a country whose political and security conditions were not as good as Indonesia, and then they will face the Philippines at the Rizal Memorial Stadium, Indonesia is still the favorite in this match and they should can win the match with a big score to reduce the goal deficit due to the first defeat because maybe the goal difference will be the deciding factor later.
We hope that the Indonesian national team can achieve something encouraging in this Asian zone World Cup qualifier, or at least they can win the home match so that fans are not too disappointed and also to show that there is good development in Indonesian football.
No disrespect but Indonesia is not a football country that much should be expected of them in the WC qualifier, in my opinion they played their best against Iraq which was a better side than them. Indonesia next game is against the Philippines who lost their home match 0:2 in favour of Vietnam on Thursday. If the Indonesian team can give a brilliant fight as a home team playing against the Vietnam in their next game there's a chance that they will put some smiles on the faves of their faces by winning the game. Supposing Indonesia doesn't win it's gonna end in a draw, that's my prediction.
Indonesia is not a football country like Brazil or Argentina or many other countries whose football development is better, you're right about that, It could even be said that Indonesia is not a country that really loves sport because sport development in my country is very minimal in all types of sport, only badminton is good, but the rest is hard to say.
I just find it strange that Iraq, whose country is not in better condition than Indonesia, has a better national team.
When facing the Philippines, it seems like Indonesia has a bigger chance of winning, but when facing another team like Vietnam, the result is quite doubtful because Vietnam is one of the best teams in Southeast Asia, and to be honest, I don't really hope that my country's national team will qualify for the World Cup and I'm more hopeful for development better in competition, as well as distancing football and sport from politics.
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In a situation where they make it 48 teams, with 4 teams in each group, that would be 12 groups, if they do 2 teams from each group that would be 24 teams, how are they going to handle that? They would be forced to make some teams play more games of knock off stage, and I do not think that would be fair. If they want to make it bigger, I would say 32 is the ideal number, let them stay with that, getting it to 64 would be way too much, and putting extra teams to groups would just make more teams lose at groups that's it, nothing changes, the fun is at the knock off stages not the groups.

In the end, this is just a small cup, a team plays a maximum of 7 games including finals, most teams have like 3 games, and some have something in between, trying to make it more games doesn't change a thing. This cup is already making way too much money too, not like they are not making any money, so they do not really need to change anything at all, feels like it is as normal as it gets.

Yeah, I'm not sure how they will manage to do the whole tournament with so many teams.

It means in my mind that basically the qualification stage will continue a bit into the initial stage of the world cup.

Maybe they will have a longer knock off stage, which is probably the simplest to implement as each stage halves the number of teams, whereas the group stage comes with multiple games.

But I have to say that the fun is in every game, not just knock-off stage. If anything, I think the group stage is more interesting as there is a chance to make one mistake for example, and still win, like Argentina did as they lost their first game to Saudi Arabia, and then continued to win the whole thing.

At the end of the day FIFA will probably maximize money making designs. We'll see how it goes.
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I'm not going to disrespect any country including Indonesia or any other team in the world because the national teams belong to the people of that country but I think a country like Indonesia can't have any chance in the World Cup compared to the other teams and if they want to get developed and have professional players they need to invest more for their team while they didn't do that so far.
We know Iraq is not a strong team but losing the game against Iraq with a 5-1 result is not good at all for Indonesia.
An acceptable opinion with my national teams opportunity will qualify to FIFA World Cup 2026 regarding on the opening match qualifier have loss 5-1 from Iraq, but its not really close with our national teams qualify to third round because left 5 matches later. In my country still not have good development of youth player but not blame right now many professional teams have their own youth training center and make it easy for regeneration in the future.

Back to Indonesia team upcoming match against Philippine, I sure will get three points and another match hope between Vietnam vs Iraq will get draw or Iraq get three points to make Indonesia team have large opportunity by finish on second place. On second qualifier round, have two national teams who finish on first and second standings will qualify to third round before getting one place in FIFA World Cup 2026 USA/Mexcio and Canda.
I also have the same thought, and I think Indonesia has great potential to win against the Philippines, because I don't think it will be difficult for Indonesia to face the Philippines and usually according to what I know, Indonesia is always heavy against Vietnam, but against the Philippines I think Indonesia has the potential to win, and I think the Indonesian team will definitely learn from their mistakes against Iraq, and Shin Tae Young will also definitely prepare good techniques against the Philippines.

and I also predict that the Indonesian team has a big chance of qualifying and finishing in 2nd place in group F.
but I see that Vietnam will be a tough opponent for Indonesia because Vietnam is very good at playing football. but I think Indonesia also cannot be underestimated. and I want to see Indonesia play in the 2026 world cup.
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I'm not going to disrespect any country including Indonesia or any other team in the world because the national teams belong to the people of that country but I think a country like Indonesia can't have any chance in the World Cup compared to the other teams and if they want to get developed and have professional players they need to invest more for their team while they didn't do that so far.
We know Iraq is not a strong team but losing the game against Iraq with a 5-1 result is not good at all for Indonesia.
Personally I don't intend and would not intend to undermine a team like Indonesia but then seeing this results, it's really unacceptable personally, this is because examine bother teams very well and you will agree with me that neither of both team is considered any tougher than the other but the results made it looked like such.

Both team don't have any super star player with which we can associate them and say would deliver them in times when most needed, that are both to be considered a regular team aspiring for the world cup. I think Indonesia needs serious investment in their football game because with this performance, even if they qualify for the world cup, they may not be able get anything out of it, and sadly this is not club foot ball where players could be bought or sold lol. they just have to invest more on building their players and possibly in the future they could raise a star.
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In a situation where they make it 48 teams, with 4 teams in each group, that would be 12 groups, if they do 2 teams from each group that would be 24 teams, how are they going to handle that? They would be forced to make some teams play more games of knock off stage, and I do not think that would be fair. If they want to make it bigger, I would say 32 is the ideal number, let them stay with that, getting it to 64 would be way too much, and putting extra teams to groups would just make more teams lose at groups that's it, nothing changes, the fun is at the knock off stages not the groups.

In the end, this is just a small cup, a team plays a maximum of 7 games including finals, most teams have like 3 games, and some have something in between, trying to make it more games doesn't change a thing. This cup is already making way too much money too, not like they are not making any money, so they do not really need to change anything at all, feels like it is as normal as it gets.
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No disrespect but Indonesia is not a football country that much should be expected of them in the WC qualifier, in my opinion they played their best against Iraq which was a better side than them. Indonesia next game is against the Philippines who lost their home match 0:2 in favour of Vietnam on Thursday. If the Indonesian team can give a brilliant fight as a home team playing against the Vietnam in their next game there's a chance that they will put some smiles on the faves of their faces by winning the game. Supposing Indonesia doesn't win it's gonna end in a draw, that's my prediction.
Of a truth, Indonesia is one of the countries in the Asian continent that aren't know for quality football but it's also worthy to note that the team that thrashed them by 5:1 are also not known for their footballing  talents or potentials.
Indonesia I think should've done better than they did in that game but they failed to play well and hot battered by Iraq
Many of the Indonesian players underperformed in this match, it can be said that almost 90% of them played below standard. Travel and fatigue may have been one of the reasons, and also Indonesia is a country that rarely or never plays away matches on FIFA Matcday, except in competitions.
If we look at the difference between their game against Argentina a while ago, I think we will see a huge difference in the way their defense works. And the goals that came to Indonesia were mostly due to their own mistakes that Iraq managed to capitalize on.
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Is sad that Nigeria with all the caliber of players in the national team is still struggling in this world cup qualifiers, Nigeria missed out of last year's world cup because they lost to Ghana in the playoffs and with their current situation in the qualifiers they may be heading to another Play off.
Nigeria was away to Zimbabwe but went down by one goal due to the mistake from the Nigerian keeper Uzoho, then the super eagles has to struggle hard to find the equalizer from Kelechi iheanacho but was not good enough to give them the momentum for a win as the game ended in a draw. Nigeria has drawn their last two world cup qualifiers game. Do you guys think Nigeria can qualify directly without any playoffs.
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I'm not going to disrespect any country including Indonesia or any other team in the world because the national teams belong to the people of that country but I think a country like Indonesia can't have any chance in the World Cup compared to the other teams and if they want to get developed and have professional players they need to invest more for their team while they didn't do that so far.
We know Iraq is not a strong team but losing the game against Iraq with a 5-1 result is not good at all for Indonesia.
An acceptable opinion with my national teams opportunity will qualify to FIFA World Cup 2026 regarding on the opening match qualifier have loss 5-1 from Iraq, but its not really close with our national teams qualify to third round because left 5 matches later. In my country still not have good development of youth player but not blame right now many professional teams have their own youth training center and make it easy for regeneration in the future.

Back to Indonesia team upcoming match against Philippine, I sure will get three points and another match hope between Vietnam vs Iraq will get draw or Iraq get three points to make Indonesia team have large opportunity by finish on second place. On second qualifier round, have two national teams who finish on first and second standings will qualify to third round before getting one place in FIFA World Cup 2026 USA/Mexcio and Canda.
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By the way, tonight my country Indonesia will start the journey for World Cup 2026 trough qualifier round, hope get first three winning points to make easily on next match.
Losing to Iraq 5-1, it was quite sad when Indonesia couldn't get at least one point from the national team of a country whose political and security conditions were not as good as Indonesia, and then they will face the Philippines at the Rizal Memorial Stadium, Indonesia is still the favorite in this match and they should can win the match with a big score to reduce the goal deficit due to the first defeat because maybe the goal difference will be the deciding factor later.
We hope that the Indonesian national team can achieve something encouraging in this Asian zone World Cup qualifier, or at least they can win the home match so that fans are not too disappointed and also to show that there is good development in Indonesian football.
No disrespect but Indonesia is not a football country that much should be expected of them in the WC qualifier, in my opinion they played their best against Iraq which was a better side than them. Indonesia next game is against the Philippines who lost their home match 0:2 in favour of Vietnam on Thursday. If the Indonesian team can give a brilliant fight as a home team playing against the Vietnam in their next game there's a chance that they will put some smiles on the faves of their faces by winning the game. Supposing Indonesia doesn't win it's gonna end in a draw, that's my prediction.
Of a truth, Indonesia is one of the countries in the Asian continent that aren't know for quality football but it's also worthy to note that the team that thrashed them by 5:1 are also not known for their footballing  talents or potentials.
Indonesia I think should've done better than they did in that game but they failed to play well and hot battered by Iraq
Both the Iraq national team and the Indonesia national team are in same category of countries without talented football players and this can be corrected by investing and developing the country's team through grassroot football development. If their football federal can focus on grassroot football competition's scouting out the best in the competition s to make up their national team they will be more fitting with a greater chance of qualifying in subsequent WC qualifiers competition.
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