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Will we even see Messi and Ronaldo in World Cup 2026 for certain?  Huh  I have seen Messi playing in the qualifiers though. Maybe we would see him in the main tournament as well. However I can't be so sure about Ronaldo. He is going to be 41 or maybe even 42 years old then. I doubt that he wouldn't retire until then.

Even Zlatan retired at the age of 41 if I'm not wrong about the age. Maybe Ronaldo wouldn't find the energy in himself to play one last World Cup before retirement but let's see.
Even these both are now at their prime but still most talked players around the sporting world which is indicating fans still love to talk about them and things are not going to change in near future with both will be available in 2026 world cup even they will be not like we have them in past with most chances we will have them as substitute and or for the one half but still this could be good booster for their teams and things could be also entertaining for the soccer fans.

After these two we are not having any solid impact player like them in future which is making things some unfavourable but still this all will be gone ahead, and we will have now soccer as at his peak because now we are entering in new era which is surely going to have new stars but not like we have in past era.
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I saw in this thread people were talking about Ronaldo and Messi playing in the 2026 World Cup. But I think the recent games we see will definitely change our minds, Ronaldo couldn't save his team. In fact, Ronaldo played in the game against Slovenia for the Portugal national team in which they lost the game with a 2-0 result, but he couldn't do anything and he couldn't help the team. However, was very mad in this match and he said the referee was guilty for this result.
Now we understand why people keep saying one player cannot save the whole team even if that player is a true superstar but one player cannot do anything by himself. Also, this is another reason to say Ronaldo is old and he can't have good performances like his old days and he can't even help his team in the 2026 World Cup or the other tournaments.

People love to talk about both players, even those who don't like soccer know both of them, in every part of the world hehe

In my humble opinion, talking only about the 2026 World Cup, the two players could participate, but not playing all the time and perhaps not even as starters
They could be the player with the most experience, to give morale to the team, to help the new players, to come on in the second half or play a few minutes, take free-kicks, penalties etc
And I've seen several teams that have used this tactic

That's my bet for both of them to go to the '26 World Cup


Without a doubt they will go to the World Cup, only a serious injury would take them out of this tournament...

This will probably be the last World Cup for both of them, so we end a generation of football legends, they are the last remnants of the generation of Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Zidane, Beckham, Pirlo and many others

Now we have a new generation of players, but I can't imagine any of them in the future as a football legend like the generation I mentioned.
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I saw in this thread people were talking about Ronaldo and Messi playing in the 2026 World Cup. But I think the recent games we see will definitely change our minds, Ronaldo couldn't save his team. In fact, Ronaldo played in the game against Slovenia for the Portugal national team in which they lost the game with a 2-0 result, but he couldn't do anything and he couldn't help the team. However, was very mad in this match and he said the referee was guilty for this result.
Now we understand why people keep saying one player cannot save the whole team even if that player is a true superstar but one player cannot do anything by himself. Also, this is another reason to say Ronaldo is old and he can't have good performances like his old days and he can't even help his team in the 2026 World Cup or the other tournaments.

People love to talk about both players, even those who don't like soccer know both of them, in every part of the world hehe

In my humble opinion, talking only about the 2026 World Cup, the two players could participate, but not playing all the time and perhaps not even as starters
They could be the player with the most experience, to give morale to the team, to help the new players, to come on in the second half or play a few minutes, take free-kicks, penalties etc
And I've seen several teams that have used this tactic

That's my bet for both of them to go to the '26 World Cup
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I saw in this thread people were talking about Ronaldo and Messi playing in the 2026 World Cup. But I think the recent games we see will definitely change our minds, Ronaldo couldn't save his team. In fact, Ronaldo played in the game against Slovenia for the Portugal national team in which they lost the game with a 2-0 result, but he couldn't do anything and he couldn't help the team. However, was very mad in this match and he said the referee was guilty for this result.
Now we understand why people keep saying one player cannot save the whole team even if that player is a true superstar but one player cannot do anything by himself. Also, this is another reason to say Ronaldo is old and he can't have good performances like his old days and he can't even help his team in the 2026 World Cup or the other tournaments.


It is a say that a tree cannot make a forest. This is why I don't see Ronaldo as a savior at his age, unlike when he was much younger, with speed and accuracy. If it happens that he plays in 2026 world cup, his performance would not change anything if he does not have good players around him.

If these two rivals would be playing in the next world cup, it is will add a little flavor to the world cup, but I believe that we have youngsters that is their turn to shine.
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The work that Rodrigo Caetano does is a kind of behind-the-scenes management, he is a selection coordinator, for example: his role is all about behind-the-scenes planning, such as scheduling games, training, coordinating meetings, presenting players after they are called up to play... Basically, he coordinates strategies off the field. He performs this role very well and in recent years his career has only evolved.

Thanks for the detailed explanation about it. It is clearer now.  Smiley  As long as he is good at doing his job it is a nice deal for Brazil then.



Will we even see Messi and Ronaldo in World Cup 2026 for certain?  Huh  I have seen Messi playing in the qualifiers though. Maybe we would see him in the main tournament as well. However I can't be so sure about Ronaldo. He is going to be 41 or maybe even 42 years old then. I doubt that he wouldn't retire until then.

Even Zlatan retired at the age of 41 if I'm not wrong about the age. Maybe Ronaldo wouldn't find the energy in himself to play one last World Cup before retirement but let's see.
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It was really unexpected because Indonesia actually managed to beat Vietnam away with score of 0 - 3 and this was big victory for Indonesia because this victory was the first time Indonesia was able to win over Vietnam away.
This was long wait because it had been 20 years this is the first time big away win has been possible.
With this victory, it is clear that Indonesia still has the opportunity to advance to the next round of World Cup qualification, making everyone, especially the Indonesian people, have high hopes for their proud team.
Happy to see the Indonesian national team successfully beat Vietnam and this time with a convincing score and because this is an away match, it is even more convincing that Indonesia is experiencing very good development so far, no longer being a team that is easy to beat but becoming a team that must be taken into account by any team, including Iraq is the strongest team in this group, maybe in the match in June Indonesia will have difficulty beating Iraq but they will be motivated to at least get one point especially since the match against Iraq is a home match where Indonesia will get full support from Indonesian football fans in the future so it will further motivate them to perform well and try to get maximum results.
Shin Tae-yong has really proven that he has indeed done good job, and this success in the away win against Vietnam has made Shin Tae-yong considered savior coach for Indonesian football.
In addition, Shin Tae-yong really prioritizes the quality of skill in including every Indonesian player in the national team nicknamed the Garuda squad, and the presence of several other players of Indonesian descent who come from abroad such as the Netherlands makes the Indonesian national team far superior.
Now Indonesia has many experienced and great players, this will help Indonesia achieve every victory in the future, even though they may not guaranteed actually qualify, but at least they have proven their hard work and self-confidence which is balanced with satisfactory results.
Hopefully in the next match they can achieve another surprising result, Iraq feels impossible to beat but if there is luck and surprise comes then all Indonesians will cheer happily.

In this way, Indonesia has the opportunity to remain in comfortable position and still be able to continue to advance to the next round of World Cup qualification in the Asian zone.
Is Philiphine a strong team? I remember seeing them lose to Vietnam in this qualifier, so I believe that would be the priority for Indonesia if they want to go through the qualifier. Seeing Iraq win 5-0 against the Philippines might affect how they play against Indonesia, but it shouldn't differ much as long as Indonesia's team doesn't change too many players. If I'm not wrong, they fielded many new players against Vietnam, if they can improve their teamwork they should be able to play better against Iraq or the Philippines.
Philippines is team that is currently at level below Indonesia and thus it can be concluded that Indonesia will win easily against the Philippines.
Indonesia in all respects has superiority on paper and this is the reason why Indonesia is far superior to the Philippines.
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I saw in this thread people were talking about Ronaldo and Messi playing in the 2026 World Cup. But I think the recent games we see will definitely change our minds, Ronaldo couldn't save his team. In fact, Ronaldo played in the game against Slovenia for the Portugal national team in which they lost the game with a 2-0 result, but he couldn't do anything and he couldn't help the team. However, was very mad in this match and he said the referee was guilty for this result.
Now we understand why people keep saying one player cannot save the whole team even if that player is a true superstar but one player cannot do anything by himself. Also, this is another reason to say Ronaldo is old and he can't have good performances like his old days and he can't even help his team in the 2026 World Cup or the other tournaments.

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Seeing the Asian teams having a surge in their love towards football is great. Normally we see them in other sports that they enjoy, and they are great there, but they do not care about football as much as we do, and that's why it's such a tough thing for a title team to come out of there.
Are you referring to the Indonesia vs Vietnam match or other Asian qualifier matches? I don't think you can calculate their love for football from their results tho, unless they spare no effort to run or make a decent pass in a match. In my country, I don't feel like supporters' love towards their national team is gone, the problem is the federation in charge made too many mistakes that affect the quality of the national team. Not sure if this will ever improve, I guess time will tell whether the good track record is sustainable or not.
Most of the developing countries are suffering from many problems with their sports policies are also not good which are not creating room for the development in the game even good chance of grooming, but things have never been ideal too much corruption and political influence are hurting them badly.
FIFA is trying his best for the development of this game in Asian region which is the biggest market by population but right now things are not going as they needed which is big setback for them with internal issues are also creating no chance of development even few countries are having good leagues which are good for them with they can get good talent which is surely going to increase quality and popularity of the game in this region.
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Seeing the Asian teams having a surge in their love towards football is great. Normally we see them in other sports that they enjoy, and they are great there, but they do not care about football as much as we do, and that's why it's such a tough thing for a title team to come out of there.
Are you referring to the Indonesia vs Vietnam match or other Asian qualifier matches? I don't think you can calculate their love for football from their results tho, unless they spare no effort to run or make a decent pass in a match. In my country, I don't feel like supporters' love towards their national team is gone, the problem is the federation in charge made too many mistakes that affect the quality of the national team. Not sure if this will ever improve, I guess time will tell whether the good track record is sustainable or not.
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Seeing the Asian teams having a surge in their love towards football is great. Normally we see them in other sports that they enjoy, and they are great there, but they do not care about football as much as we do, and that's why it's such a tough thing for a title team to come out of there.

Not that there would be any now, almost every world cup winner will be either a European team or a Latin American team, that's always the case, but at least we are now seeing other continents to send teams that can beat or go out of the group stages, which is fine and makes it more fun. Not at the championship level yet, but it is good to have like last sixteen or even maybe quarter finals, that means there is an improvement all around the world.
When it comes to global football, the Asian national teams are usually considered to be behind other national teams from other continents like Europe, South America Africa and sometimes below their North American counter parts but considering their recent performances, it's believed that quality of football in the continent have improved significantly.
In the last FIFA World Cup, we saw great performances from Asian teams like Saudi Arabia which was unlike them before the World Cup. They're yet to win the FIFA World Cup in history but considering the current growth of football in the continent, there's a possibility that one of them will end them will win it in the nearest future but definitely not in the next edition of you ask me
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Vietnam vs Indonesia continues the World Cup (AFC) qualifying match.
Indonesia managed to beat Vietnam when they were the home team but only by a narrow score and Indonesia had to win this match to continue to have the opportunity to qualify for the next round of this qualification.
This second match against Vietnam will certainly be different, moreover, Vietnam still has the same chance of getting to the third round so this will be an important match for both teams.
I hope Indonesia wins this match even though they are not favorites in the betting market, but being able to beat Vietnam twice in a row will increase the confidence of the Indonesian squad to win again.
The victory against Vietnam make Indonesian team one step closer qualifying to the next round as runner up standings position behin Iraq national team, its very good result become the first time since 20 years ago the last time Indonesian team can defeated Vietnam and make Shin Tae-yong success become the first manger after twenty years ago take three points on Vietnam's home. Next match Indonesian team has opportunity for securing next round place if can beat Iraq on their home, I think two winning back to back against Vietnam at home and away match give more motivate for Indonesian team continue the winning trend on their home.
Indonesia team has two matches left and take three points is enough to secure one place on third round qualifier, wish Indonesia has opportunity for the first time will play in FIFA World Cup after new regulation additional teams up to 48 participants.
It only takes one win to ensure that Indonesia advances to the next round. If the result is a draw against Iraq, the opportunity will be wider and we hope that against the Philippines we can get full points, no matter the previous match with a draw between Infonesia vs Philippines at least, at the Gelora Bung Karno Stadium in Indonesia.  can get the points they want and the supporters will be happy and it will be a sweet history for all Indonesian supporters, but I still hope that the match against Iraq will be with the squad that Indonesia currently has and is complete with players who have so much playing time.  , so at least a narrow victory can occur in the next match.
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We already have some teams that will have no chance of qualifying for 2026, they've already been disqualified  Embarrassed:

  • Guam
  • Mongolia
  • Maldives
  • Sri Lanka
  • Macau
  • Cambodia
  • East Timor
  • Brunei
  • Bhutan
  • Laos
  • Turks and Caicos
  • US Virgin Islands
  • Taiwan
  • Hong Kong
  • Turkmenistan
  • Pakistan
  • Nepal

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Seeing the Asian teams having a surge in their love towards football is great. Normally we see them in other sports that they enjoy, and they are great there, but they do not care about football as much as we do, and that's why it's such a tough thing for a title team to come out of there.

Not that there would be any now, almost every world cup winner will be either a European team or a Latin American team, that's always the case, but at least we are now seeing other continents to send teams that can beat or go out of the group stages, which is fine and makes it more fun. Not at the championship level yet, but it is good to have like last sixteen or even maybe quarter finals, that means there is an improvement all around the world.
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Brazil play two matches under new coach supervision and have won one against England at the Wembley, and then they ended on draw against Spain at the Santiago Bernabéu mean now things are coming back on track even this all is too early long way to go for them but as we watch their quality had good improvement and players confidence level is also high, so this could be good for the ending of too many rumors which were going around due to their recent poor results in few matches.

Friendly matches could give an idea about the potential change in the future of the team performance but it doesn't mean that there will be certainly a change.
I am pretty much disappointed from Brazilian national team results in the previous months. There was some changes done and we hope they will get back their form. When you see the quality of the old players and the current ones, you see a huge gap with Ronaldo9, Roberto Carlos, Kaka, Ronaldinho and the others comparing to the new ones.
Here I agreed with your all view but with this now we need to check few other things as well like this gape of quality is not happening only for the Brazil it's also happening for the many other teams as well like Germany and Italy which are going down with things are also not stable in long run.
Brazil's these friendlies were just for the things to be checked and have fix in near future because we all know these friendlies are never been going to work for the big event matches which are play by teams with full force and these are just for the practice or maintaining their strategy with all players those are going to be part of the future team but still we have some positive change which will work for them, and they will be able to have good results.
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Brazil play two matches under new coach supervision and have won one against England at the Wembley, and then they ended on draw against Spain at the Santiago Bernabéu mean now things are coming back on track even this all is too early long way to go for them but as we watch their quality had good improvement and players confidence level is also high, so this could be good for the ending of too many rumors which were going around due to their recent poor results in few matches.

Friendly matches could give an idea about the potential change in the future of the team performance but it doesn't mean that there will be certainly a change.
I am pretty much disappointed from Brazilian national team results in the previous months. There was some changes done and we hope they will get back their form. When you see the quality of the old players and the current ones, you see a huge gap with Ronaldo9, Roberto Carlos, Kaka, Ronaldinho and the others comparing to the new ones.
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Even the fact that Belgium is above Brazil is silly, of course Brazil is a better team but they had a bad period and that's why I think it's quite important to remember that we are not going to see them do this badly all that commonly, it will be just fine for them in the end. I just think that the best thing to do with what we have right now is to just focus on what we can make.

I believe that betting on Brazil is still a great way to go, and that means we are going to probably see them do fine, it should not be all that hard. I think betting on them to win the whole world cup could be far fetched, but expecting them to do fine in other games could be better, they are still Brazil and they will beat other teams, aside from maybe Argentina.

Well, I have seen that Brazil has not been playing very well in the last few games, they have been losing against teams that I did not believe could win, in fact, they have the best players they have in Europe, they have young promises, and it is presumed that there are one who is told that he is Pelé's successor, but the truth is I don't see him with those eyes, I don't see him doing things as such to deserve that, however now the Brazilian team is in crisis, I think it's also because he has many of his players who have not had much action, among them Neymar, because in the last game that was with Colombia they lost, sometimes this is something that does not look very good.

In fact, it is presumed, it is not certain that Pep Guardiola can lead this team on the way to the World Cup, he is between San Marino and a couple of other teams that are interested in Pee's services, honestly this would change the face of the Brazilian team.

Brazil without doubt haven't been as consistent as they're supposed to be considering the quality players the national team and that's why they're below Belgium in FIFA rankings. The reason behind Brazil's poor results is simply because of the inexperience of the coach of the team and not because they don't have the needed quality of players to be ranked as the best team in world football.
Tomorrow evening, they play against the Three Lions of England at the famous Wembley stadium and because the English team will be playing at home, many are of the opinion that Brazil will be beaten tomorrow. I don't have full confidence when it comes to the Brazilian team of how bad their manager have been and I think the best thing the country's football authorities try and get another manager that can handle the Brazil national team perfectly.

Well, actually the things that can happen are very good if they decide to put a coach, don't believe it, Pep Guardiola would be the ideal coach for Caraninha, for me Brazil has the best team in the world, wherever you see it they have quality, They have the best defenders, the best attackers, the best midfielders, but they have not found the ideal coach, I remember the Lobo Zagalo era, that Brazil was another level, in the last friendship between Brazil and Spain it was 3 to 3, I saw a better Brazil.

I am sure that Brazil will do a very good job in the next matches that are coming up, because they have a very high level, so the next phase of the playoffs will be open, but we cannot forget that a great day of football is coming, the Cup America, the Euro is coming, we will see these teams playing great football, this excites me.
Brazil play two matches under new coach supervision and have won one against England at the Wembley, and then they ended on draw against Spain at the Santiago Bernabéu mean now things are coming back on track even this all is too early long way to go for them but as we watch their quality had good improvement and players confidence level is also high, so this could be good for the ending of too many rumors which were going around due to their recent poor results in few matches.
Now we will have Copa América after few months which are going to be big test for the new coach and these players after this we will be having preparation for the next world cup which is another big test case but as we have some improvement we can expect good results and improvement into their game which can bring good results and smile on faces of their fans.
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Even the fact that Belgium is above Brazil is silly, of course Brazil is a better team but they had a bad period and that's why I think it's quite important to remember that we are not going to see them do this badly all that commonly, it will be just fine for them in the end. I just think that the best thing to do with what we have right now is to just focus on what we can make.

I believe that betting on Brazil is still a great way to go, and that means we are going to probably see them do fine, it should not be all that hard. I think betting on them to win the whole world cup could be far fetched, but expecting them to do fine in other games could be better, they are still Brazil and they will beat other teams, aside from maybe Argentina.

Well, I have seen that Brazil has not been playing very well in the last few games, they have been losing against teams that I did not believe could win, in fact, they have the best players they have in Europe, they have young promises, and it is presumed that there are one who is told that he is Pelé's successor, but the truth is I don't see him with those eyes, I don't see him doing things as such to deserve that, however now the Brazilian team is in crisis, I think it's also because he has many of his players who have not had much action, among them Neymar, because in the last game that was with Colombia they lost, sometimes this is something that does not look very good.

In fact, it is presumed, it is not certain that Pep Guardiola can lead this team on the way to the World Cup, he is between San Marino and a couple of other teams that are interested in Pee's services, honestly this would change the face of the Brazilian team.

Brazil without doubt haven't been as consistent as they're supposed to be considering the quality players the national team and that's why they're below Belgium in FIFA rankings. The reason behind Brazil's poor results is simply because of the inexperience of the coach of the team and not because they don't have the needed quality of players to be ranked as the best team in world football.
Tomorrow evening, they play against the Three Lions of England at the famous Wembley stadium and because the English team will be playing at home, many are of the opinion that Brazil will be beaten tomorrow. I don't have full confidence when it comes to the Brazilian team of how bad their manager have been and I think the best thing the country's football authorities try and get another manager that can handle the Brazil national team perfectly.

Well, actually the things that can happen are very good if they decide to put a coach, don't believe it, Pep Guardiola would be the ideal coach for Caraninha, for me Brazil has the best team in the world, wherever you see it they have quality, They have the best defenders, the best attackers, the best midfielders, but they have not found the ideal coach, I remember the Lobo Zagalo era, that Brazil was another level, in the last friendship between Brazil and Spain it was 3 to 3, I saw a better Brazil.

I am sure that Brazil will do a very good job in the next matches that are coming up, because they have a very high level, so the next phase of the playoffs will be open, but we cannot forget that a great day of football is coming, the Cup America, the Euro is coming, we will see these teams playing great football, this excites me.
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Endrick scoring a goal at this age is definitely amazing, and he was with Vinicious Jr when he did, it was the rebound of his shot, so they celebrated together. Endrick is one of the main reasons why I believe that Mbappe may not be a great choice, or he might be not sure.

Because they have Vini at left, and Jude at behind the striker, and Rodrygo at right side, so at the striker position they will either have Mbappe or Endrick, they already paid top money for Endrick anyway, so not getting him is not an option anymore, Mbappe would be futile there. Doesn't mean that he is not better, Mbappe is definitely better than Endrick, at least for now, but that doesn't mean that they "need" him, it would be too expensive for no good.

Endrick is a much easier person to get along with than Mbappé, just look at all the behavior that Mbappé has had in recent years, especially with his teammates, maybe he could end up in a good team environment in one of his “ego attacks” . ... I wouldn't sign Mbappé for my team, despite his talent, what counts most is the daily interaction with the other players.
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Endrick scoring a goal at this age is definitely amazing, and he was with Vinicious Jr when he did, it was the rebound of his shot, so they celebrated together. Endrick is one of the main reasons why I believe that Mbappe may not be a great choice, or he might be not sure.

Because they have Vini at left, and Jude at behind the striker, and Rodrygo at right side, so at the striker position they will either have Mbappe or Endrick, they already paid top money for Endrick anyway, so not getting him is not an option anymore, Mbappe would be futile there. Doesn't mean that he is not better, Mbappe is definitely better than Endrick, at least for now, but that doesn't mean that they "need" him, it would be too expensive for no good.
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In this way, Indonesia has the opportunity to remain in comfortable position and still be able to continue to advance to the next round of World Cup qualification in the Asian zone.
Is Philiphine a strong team? I remember seeing them lose to Vietnam in this qualifier, so I believe that would be the priority for Indonesia if they want to go through the qualifier. Seeing Iraq win 5-0 against the Philippines might affect how they play against Indonesia, but it shouldn't differ much as long as Indonesia's team doesn't change too many players. If I'm not wrong, they fielded many new players against Vietnam, if they can improve their teamwork they should be able to play better against Iraq or the Philippines.

it is even more convincing that Indonesia is experiencing very good development so far, no longer being a team that is easy to beat but becoming a team that must be taken into account by any team,
Do you think the nationalization strategy will be sustainable in the long run? I'm not confident if we see a change of leadership or coach in the national team this good trend will continue. I guess time will tell if the national sports organization will continue to prioritize our national team's development or if they will focus more on making money through deals, ads, etc.
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