FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 88.

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Are you following the qualifiers?

I ask you because after a month apart, the most exciting and difficult qualifiers in the world will return this week. There are ten South American teams that will face each other again with the aim of reaching one of the much-desired places for the World Cup.
So far... Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay and Venezuela have scored three points in at least one match and will try to continue at this pace. On the other side.... Paraguay, Peru, Chile and Bolivia need to start winning if they want to qualify too.

The next games are:

Colombia x Uruguay
Bolivia x Ecuador
Argentina x Paraguay
Brazil x Venezuela
Chile x Peru

Are you betting on this???

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Quote from: nullama on October 10, 2023, 08:31:52 PM

Yes, but I think it is time to leave the space so that other promising younger player get the chance to play.

If Messi goes to the world cup, then they will definitely put him on the team, leaving the younger players with less experience.

I think it's his time to retire at the peak.

The only thing that I would say at this point is that Lionel Messi should take the decision without much delay. If he doesn't want to participate in North America 2026 (as a player), then he should inform this to the Argentine management at least by 2024, so that they have time to prepare. The coach (Lionel Scaloni) can try out a few combinations during the ongoing CONMEBOL qualifiers and that will give these younger players some real match experience rather than directly putting them to the line of fire during the 2026 tournament.

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Quote from: Godday on October 10, 2023, 04:39:26 AM

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Maybe Messi won't get anything in the next World Cup, but what some users here have mentioned is that Messi is still Messi, a football superstar who has become the idol of footballers all over the world and that also includes Argentinian footballers. Messi won't get anything, but young Argentine national team players will get something very valuable in their lives, namely playing football with Lionel Messi. It is possible that in the 2026 World Cup there will be several new faces in the Argentina national team and we can confirm that their average age is 20-29 years which means they are football players born in 1997-2006 and it is certain that they will be very motivated for every match.

Yes, but I think it is time to leave the space so that other promising younger player get the chance to play.

If Messi goes to the world cup, then they will definitely put him on the team, leaving the younger players with less experience.

I think it's his time to retire at the peak.

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Quote from: FanEagle on October 10, 2023, 01:35:24 PM

Messi will definitely play, he is not going to be all that old when he plays on the WC, the only one I wonder would be Ronaldo, I am sure that he will want to play and that looks like a possibility as well, he gained some more shape at Saudi league because he is constantly playing and training, not like when he was at United on his last season, for a summer he did nothing and then when he came back he didn't get proper minutes neither.

However, he will be around 40 years old if I am not mistaken and not like Portugal lacks any players, they could easily replace a 40 year old Ronaldo, don't get me wrong he was their best player ever in their entire history, but that doesn't mean that you are not going to get Ronaldo dropping with age, so maybe he may miss it.

I don't think if they let him play and I think Messi himself will get retired from the national games before the World Cup because any team including Argentina needs players to be in the best form while Messi even right now is not in good to have a good performance as he had years ago in Barcelona and surely after years when he gets older this player won't be helpful for Argentina like he is right now, That's why I think that's a better idea for them to get more opportunities to younger players.

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Quote from: FanEagle on October 10, 2023, 01:35:24 PM

Messi will definitely play, he is not going to be all that old when he plays on the WC, the only one I wonder would be Ronaldo, I am sure that he will want to play and that looks like a possibility as well, he gained some more shape at Saudi league because he is constantly playing and training, not like when he was at United on his last season, for a summer he did nothing and then when he came back he didn't get proper minutes neither.

However, he will be around 40 years old if I am not mistaken and not like Portugal lacks any players, they could easily replace a 40 year old Ronaldo, don't get me wrong he was their best player ever in their entire history, but that doesn't mean that you are not going to get Ronaldo dropping with age, so maybe he may miss it.

But what differentiates them is that Messi is getting along great with his teammates and they would want him to be on board for the World Cup. The team and the fans would want it even if he gets a little worse than he currently still is. Ronaldo isn't all that popular within the team, but they can't argue against him because he is still scoring most of the time. I think that Ronaldo's nomination will depend on whether or not he can maintain a high level of scorer points whereas Messi will be nominated no matter what unless he himself decides to retreat from the Argentinian national team. Not sure if you guys agree but you get my point I hope.

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Messi will definitely play, he is not going to be all that old when he plays on the WC, the only one I wonder would be Ronaldo, I am sure that he will want to play and that looks like a possibility as well, he gained some more shape at Saudi league because he is constantly playing and training, not like when he was at United on his last season, for a summer he did nothing and then when he came back he didn't get proper minutes neither.

However, he will be around 40 years old if I am not mistaken and not like Portugal lacks any players, they could easily replace a 40 year old Ronaldo, don't get me wrong he was their best player ever in their entire history, but that doesn't mean that you are not going to get Ronaldo dropping with age, so maybe he may miss it.

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Quote from: Godday on October 10, 2023, 04:39:26 AM

Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

Maybe Messi won't get anything in the next World Cup, but what some users here have mentioned is that Messi is still Messi, a football superstar who has become the idol of footballers all over the world and that also includes Argentinian footballers. Messi won't get anything, but young Argentine national team players will get something very valuable in their lives, namely playing football with Lionel Messi. It is possible that in the 2026 World Cup there will be several new faces in the Argentina national team and we can confirm that their average age is 20-29 years which means they are football players born in 1997-2006 and it is certain that they will be very motivated for every match.

Definitely if Messi happens to participate in the fort coming world cup, he may not be aiming to get anything really big but then his presence in the tournament alone will really mean a lot to his country and the entire tournament as a whole as it will cause some side attractions, for a football idol participating for the last time in the tournament.

Most of the young Argentina players would be delighted to have ever played with such a big star at the same time in a tournament. His contribution to the team as an experienced world cup player will as well be off great benefit and importance to the team, and I'm very sure the fan base for his country will be bigger than usual as many more people would want to witness him play.

It going to be more beneficial to the tournament, his team and his country at large than it will be to him, but then on the long run it will be narrowed down to him as an achievement in his football career, he will be forever regarded as an idol in football both nationally and globally. So I don't think there's anything silly about him participating in the next world cup even if the achievement wouldn't be for him but for national interest I think it's worth it.

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Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

Maybe Messi won't get anything in the next World Cup, but what some users here have mentioned is that Messi is still Messi, a football superstar who has become the idol of footballers all over the world and that also includes Argentinian footballers. Messi won't get anything, but young Argentine national team players will get something very valuable in their lives, namely playing football with Lionel Messi. It is possible that in the 2026 World Cup there will be several new faces in the Argentina national team and we can confirm that their average age is 20-29 years which means they are football players born in 1997-2006 and it is certain that they will be very motivated for every match.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 09, 2023, 01:44:51 PM

Talking about this, I remembered the previous year before the Qatar World Cup. Yes many of us speculated that the possibility of the Qatar World Cup would be the last World Cup for Messi and not just Messi but other players as well, like Ronaldo for example. But now we are starting to speculate about the possibility of Messi plying in the World Cup or not. Yes it is interesting considering his age, but indeed his influence on his country is huge. Even though he is only in the lineup and not the main player, he can give his experience to other players and also provide motivation. I also haven't heard any rumors of him retiring anytime soon.

He has seen what happened to Ronaldo during Qatar 2022. It doesn't matter whether you are a legend. When you get old, then you are out of favor with the coach. Messi will be 39 years old by the time of North America 2026 and there is a good chance that he will retire from active football before that. He has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve in international and club football. So rather than risking his reputation by playing in 2026, he may just stay out of that tournament. At the most, he may enroll for some sort of coaching responsibility for the national team.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 09, 2023, 01:44:51 PM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 08, 2023, 10:11:33 AM

Quote from: virasog on October 08, 2023, 01:14:31 AM

Will Lionel Messi play in the 2026 FIFA World Cup? This is a big question. The fans from the United States will love to see him in action on their grounds but we will wait and see. Although he has said a few times in the interviews that he may not be able to play in the upcoming World Cup.

Messi will probably still be selected for FIFA 2026 but may not be included in the main squad. I think Messi has a very big influence on the Argentine national team. Imagining young players playing with Messi in the national team will be a huge motivation for their mentality. So I think FIFA 2026 will probably be Messi's last World Cup participation before retirement.

Talking about this, I remembered the previous year before the Qatar World Cup. Yes many of us speculated that the possibility of the Qatar World Cup would be the last World Cup for Messi and not just Messi but other players as well, like Ronaldo for example. But now we are starting to speculate about the possibility of Messi plying in the World Cup or not. Yes it is interesting considering his age, but indeed his influence on his country is huge. Even though he is only in the lineup and not the main player, he can give his experience to other players and also provide motivation. I also haven't heard any rumors of him retiring anytime soon.

These days sportsman are trying to keep themselves away from speculation. Now things were highly transparent between the authorities and the common people through technology. Injuries were the major reason, upon which players take break from the teams. With Messi such situation hadn't arised. Most of the time he used to keep his body good. According to me, if he goes on a long break before World Cup there is chances of going out of form. Only in such situation the selection committee will think of whether to have Messi into the team or provide opportunity for the young players of the nation.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 08, 2023, 10:11:33 AM

Quote from: virasog on October 08, 2023, 01:14:31 AM

Will Lionel Messi play in the 2026 FIFA World Cup? This is a big question. The fans from the United States will love to see him in action on their grounds but we will wait and see. Although he has said a few times in the interviews that he may not be able to play in the upcoming World Cup.

Messi will probably still be selected for FIFA 2026 but may not be included in the main squad. I think Messi has a very big influence on the Argentine national team. Imagining young players playing with Messi in the national team will be a huge motivation for their mentality. So I think FIFA 2026 will probably be Messi's last World Cup participation before retirement.

Talking about this, I remembered the previous year before the Qatar World Cup. Yes many of us speculated that the possibility of the Qatar World Cup would be the last World Cup for Messi and not just Messi but other players as well, like Ronaldo for example. But now we are starting to speculate about the possibility of Messi plying in the World Cup or not. Yes it is interesting considering his age, but indeed his influence on his country is huge. Even though he is only in the lineup and not the main player, he can give his experience to other players and also provide motivation. I also haven't heard any rumors of him retiring anytime soon.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 09, 2023, 12:23:08 PM

Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on October 09, 2023, 03:11:55 AM

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It's really hard to say which FIFA world cup will be his last world cup because I remember in 2018 Messi said that FIFA 2018 world cup was his last chance to win but out of curiosity, he participated in FIFA 2022 and he won it. He even said again that FIFA 2022 was his last chance but after the win, he even plans to participate in FIFA 2026.
Probably, he is not in phenomenal shape right now because age leaves its mark on the body but Messi's dribbling skills are constantly developing, every year he dribbles better and shows magic tricks, he still hasn't shown his limits. Such a phenomenal player. To be honest, I will not even be surprised if he plays in FIFA 2030. Simply there is no reason for him to retire, he will be way better player at the age of 43 than many other 20 years old players.

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

I don't know how even can you even say this. winning the World Cup is an honor for any palyer who wins this title in their team because other famous players like Cristiano Ronaldo had perfect performances in their national teams but could never win this title. But even If Messi plays in the next World Cup, I don't think if he can win this tournament again with Argentina because of his age and the lower performance he is going to have.

As far as football is concerned, winning the FIFA World Cup is the best thing that can happen to a footballer and that's why Lionel Messi is today regarded as the best footballer ever in the history of football. Before he won the world cup, he was still behind the likes of Pele and Diego Armando Maradona despite winning the Balon D'or for record 7 times. Messi is currently 36 years of age which means he would be 39 in 2026 and that's why I think there's every possiblity of him participating in the FIFA World Cup once again before he retires from football.

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Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on October 09, 2023, 03:11:55 AM

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It's really hard to say which FIFA world cup will be his last world cup because I remember in 2018 Messi said that FIFA 2018 world cup was his last chance to win but out of curiosity, he participated in FIFA 2022 and he won it. He even said again that FIFA 2022 was his last chance but after the win, he even plans to participate in FIFA 2026.
Probably, he is not in phenomenal shape right now because age leaves its mark on the body but Messi's dribbling skills are constantly developing, every year he dribbles better and shows magic tricks, he still hasn't shown his limits. Such a phenomenal player. To be honest, I will not even be surprised if he plays in FIFA 2030. Simply there is no reason for him to retire, he will be way better player at the age of 43 than many other 20 years old players.

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

I don't know how even can you even say this. winning the World Cup is an honor for any palyer who wins this title in their team because other famous players like Cristiano Ronaldo had perfect performances in their national teams but could never win this title. But even If Messi plays in the next World Cup, I don't think if he can win this tournament again with Argentina because of his age and the lower performance he is going to have.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 09, 2023, 06:17:03 AM

Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

It's quite strange in my opinion if someone says that if he can win the world cup again it won't bring anything for him, because of course it will give something extraordinary for his career, because winning one world cup trophy versus two world cup trophies is a very different thing in terms of anything including financial and records that will probably last a long time before another player can match or even break them.
However, whether Lionel Messi plays or not is a mystery and if Lionel Scaloni still calls him, it means he still has strong value for the Argentine squad in the future and of course with careful consideration considering that Argentina is a country that has quite good player resources.

I agree with you and it would be like Federer in tennis to say he stops playing tennis once he won all the Grand Slam tournaments one time. Won Wimbledon? Quit career! That is nonsense and in my opinion a player of any sport should listen to their bodies and if they are still healthy and they get positive feedback from the managers and the fans and they feel they can contribute to the success of the team, what is the reason that they should stop playing what people love them for? Really this is a stupid argument to make.

The real problem is that some players can't accept that their peak is long over and that they are mostly injured and when they are healthy they also play bad. That's when they missed the train to stop as a professional. But apart from that why should a player stop if he feels great?

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Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

It's quite strange in my opinion if someone says that if he can win the world cup again it won't bring anything for him, because of course it will give something extraordinary for his career, because winning one world cup trophy versus two world cup trophies is a very different thing in terms of anything including financial and records that will probably last a long time before another player can match or even break them.
However, whether Lionel Messi plays or not is a mystery and if Lionel Scaloni still calls him, it means he still has strong value for the Argentine squad in the future and of course with careful consideration considering that Argentina is a country that has quite good player resources.

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Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup

Since he is already playing in qualification matches, it is safe to assume that he plans to play in WC as well.

Quote from: nullama on October 09, 2023, 04:50:58 AM

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

Lol you serious, it woulnd't bring him anything to win world cup again and make Argentina the first country to defend world title since Brazil did it in 1958? I am not saying that he will do it or that he even has good chance of doing it, but its ridicolous to say that winning another world title woulnd't bring anything to him.

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Quote from: Synchronice on October 09, 2023, 03:11:55 AM

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It's really hard to say which FIFA world cup will be his last world cup because I remember in 2018 Messi said that FIFA 2018 world cup was his last chance to win but out of curiosity, he participated in FIFA 2022 and he won it. He even said again that FIFA 2022 was his last chance but after the win, he even plans to participate in FIFA 2026.
Probably, he is not in phenomenal shape right now because age leaves its mark on the body but Messi's dribbling skills are constantly developing, every year he dribbles better and shows magic tricks, he still hasn't shown his limits. Such a phenomenal player. To be honest, I will not even be surprised if he plays in FIFA 2030. Simply there is no reason for him to retire, he will be way better player at the age of 43 than many other 20 years old players.

To me it would seem a bit silly for Messi to play in the next world cup, he has the chance to retire after he won the world cup, and now he can play a bit more to make some extra cash, plus then he will be able to continue making money by doing ads and things like that.

Playing the next world cup would not bring anything else to him, even if he wins it

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 08, 2023, 10:11:33 AM

Quote from: virasog on October 08, 2023, 01:14:31 AM

Will Lionel Messi play in the 2026 FIFA World Cup? This is a big question. The fans from the United States will love to see him in action on their grounds but we will wait and see. Although he has said a few times in the interviews that he may not be able to play in the upcoming World Cup.

Messi will probably still be selected for FIFA 2026 but may not be included in the main squad. I think Messi has a very big influence on the Argentine national team. Imagining young players playing with Messi in the national team will be a huge motivation for their mentality. So I think FIFA 2026 will probably be Messi's last World Cup participation before retirement.

It's really hard to say which FIFA world cup will be his last world cup because I remember in 2018 Messi said that FIFA 2018 world cup was his last chance to win but out of curiosity, he participated in FIFA 2022 and he won it. He even said again that FIFA 2022 was his last chance but after the win, he even plans to participate in FIFA 2026.
Probably, he is not in phenomenal shape right now because age leaves its mark on the body but Messi's dribbling skills are constantly developing, every year he dribbles better and shows magic tricks, he still hasn't shown his limits. Such a phenomenal player. To be honest, I will not even be surprised if he plays in FIFA 2030. Simply there is no reason for him to retire, he will be way better player at the age of 43 than many other 20 years old players.

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Quote from: virasog on October 08, 2023, 01:14:31 AM

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If Messi is called the best footballer in the world, what would be wrong? Not at all because Messi is a legend and he is undoubtedly one of the best footballers in the world. Lionel Messi has been the biggest contributor behind the 2022 World Cup win, in the 2022 World Cup tournament Messi has prioritized and trusted young players and the players have repaid that trust. Messi has not yet retired from the national team but was rumored to retire after the World Cup tournament. Age may be the reason for him to make such a decision but considering his age he is still a very good performer. It is a blessing for Lionel Messi that he has not suffered many injuries in his long career. An injury destroys a footballer's career which was not the case with Messi, that is why Messi has been able to prove his skills 100%. Lionel Messi can play for the national team for some more time and it will not be a surprise if he plays in the 2026 World Cup.

Lionel Messi is no doubt the world legends player in the football world. We cannot just compare the achievements of this player. He has won a record of seven Ballon d’Or awards, and he holds six European Golden Shoes awards. He has scored over 800+ goals. He won for this country's 2021 Copa America and 2022 FIFA World Cup. What else would you want from a player?

Will Lionel Messi play in the 2026 FIFA World Cup? This is a big question. The fans from the United States will love to see him in action on their grounds but we will wait and see. Although he has said a few times in the interviews that he may not be able to play in the upcoming World Cup.

Messi has achieved everything in his football career except for one World Cup which he achieved in 2022 so now he has nothing new to achieve. 2022 World Cup he successfully won 2026 World Cup is uncertain for him. He may want the last World Cup of his life not to be a failure, he may decide not to play the 2026 World Cup.
It's the end of 2023, giving Lionel Messi two more years to make a decision. Hope he takes the best decision by thinking about the fans and thinking about his highest achievement. But with the way he is still performing, I hope he will not miss the 2026 World Cup at least because of his performance. I believe that Lionel Messi will be at his best in 2026.

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You are right. It is very difficult for children in Brazil to develop their talents to become professional players because Brazil is a poor country. To play ball, they often do not have adequate facilities. For this reason, they play anything that can be used to develop their talents. This challenge makes them more creative so that their skills improve rapidly. So it is not surprising that Brazil produces many of the best quality players in the world.

Maybe poverty is the reason why they are performing so good? In the favelas, children start playing football from a very young age and the conditions are very tough. A lot of them get injured. On the other hand, European kids start playing in schools and academies, where rules are strictly followed. And this is exactly the reason why footballers in Brazil are having unique skills, which are rare to find in other parts of the world. And it is not just Brazil. What I mentioned can be found in other Latin American nations such as Argentina, Colombia and Ecuador as well.

If any country is poor, it does not have proper infrastructure and the playing conditions to produce quality players. In the modern world, talent itself won't make you a bigger player unless you have a proper setup where you can practice and polish your skills. So saying that brazil has been dominating the football world for so many years only because they were poor, is not the right definition for them.

This holds true vice versa also, that is if a country is rich in resources but the player does not possess the natural talent, then it is also hard to produce quality players.

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