Flagging accounts which are up to sale [DT member actions needed] - page 3.

bob123

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Quote from: zackie on July 01, 2019, 11:59:12 AM

Yes, I coud do that. But I'm not very active and therefore I don't know which users are trustworthy. You have to name somebody and let me check.

I would suggest LoyceV, if he is up for that.
He also logged into my throwaway account and confirmed the PM's.

If you don't trust him or he doesn't want to do that, anyone from DT1 should be fine.
Just make sure to change your password before handing it out, and afterwards again

zackie

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Quote from: bob123 on June 26, 2019, 02:51:11 PM

Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 04:04:44 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on June 25, 2019, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:52:14 PM

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care.

Have you checked https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php ? You have only 30 days to see the account thief's IP address.

Holy crap! Thanks for that link. Here is the result:

2019-06-25 18:52:29   2019-06-25 19:53:15   xx.xxx.xxx.xx   XXXXXXXx, Germany
2019-06-24 22:00:53   2019-06-24 22:01:56   xxxx:xx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx   XXXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-24 20:03:48   2019-06-24 20:52:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx    XXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-19 09:38:21   2019-06-20 14:02:48   42.201.183.65   Karachi, Pakistan

Indeed, somebody from Pakistan used my account!

But hey, you know.... I could have used a VPN....

Could you let any trusted member of the community log into your account to verify the IP log ?
Once done - and given that the IP log indeed shows a weird login from pakistan - i will too remove my negative rating.

Yes, I coud do that. But I'm not very active and therefore I don't know which users are trustworthy. You have to name somebody and let me check.

The-One-Above-All

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Did anyone ever verify if the nutildah account sale had a password change?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50719875

this one seems to be escaping the attention of the account sale hunters.

How about the I.P. did that change during the months of it being on sale to the claim from that account later it was never sold?

Can you really flag accounts up for sale ? what if months later that account posts a message it is no longer up for sale? that could mean it was never sold right?

actmyname

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Spear the bees

Quote from: bones261 on June 28, 2019, 09:08:59 PM

Am I being heavy handed by giving out a neutral rating and posting in the NastyFans thread to give them a warning?

Certainly not. But this doesn't call for any flag action above that. In my opinion.

bones261

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Quote from: actmyname on June 28, 2019, 08:18:17 PM

If the account has not been proven to belong to a hacker/seller then nothing should happen to it.

nonnakip did change their password and email however that is not evidence for a hack/sale. It's a warning sign.

Am I being heavy handed by giving out a neutral rating and posting in the NastyFans thread to give them a warning?

actmyname

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Spear the bees

If the account has not been proven to belong to a hacker/seller then nothing should happen to it.

nonnakip did change their password and email however that is not evidence for a hack/sale. It's a warning sign.

marlboroza

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One of accounts tried to scam https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/profitpoolx-fake-team-members-5158687 on larger scale.

bob123

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 26, 2019, 03:27:34 PM

It is trivial to fake an IP address...you don’t even need to use a VPN. There are services that will allow you to have what appears to be a residential IP address of a distinct location.

You don't say Roll Eyes

But based on the fact that most accounts offered by the shady person (a.k.a. account seller) only have english posts and this account additionally is active in the german sub, it is very well imaginable that the account got hacked.

We can't be absolutely sure. But if the IP log shows a login from a completely different IP / country while trying to sell this account, it is very probable that it got hacked.
Therefore i will change my neg trust rating to a neutral one if a trustworthy member of this forum confirms the IP log shown.

Quickseller

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Quote from: bob123 on June 26, 2019, 02:51:11 PM

Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 04:04:44 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on June 25, 2019, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:52:14 PM

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care.

Have you checked https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php ? You have only 30 days to see the account thief's IP address.

Holy crap! Thanks for that link. Here is the result:

2019-06-25 18:52:29   2019-06-25 19:53:15   xx.xxx.xxx.xx   XXXXXXXx, Germany
2019-06-24 22:00:53   2019-06-24 22:01:56   xxxx:xx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx   XXXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-24 20:03:48   2019-06-24 20:52:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx    XXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-19 09:38:21   2019-06-20 14:02:48   42.201.183.65   Karachi, Pakistan

Indeed, somebody from Pakistan used my account!

But hey, you know.... I could have used a VPN....

Could you let any trusted member of the community log into your account to verify the IP log ?
Once done - and given that the IP log indeed shows a weird login from pakistan - i will too remove my negative rating.

It is trivial to fake an IP address...you don’t even need to use a VPN. There are services that will allow you to have what appears to be a residential IP address of a distinct location.

bob123

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Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 04:04:44 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on June 25, 2019, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:52:14 PM

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care.

Have you checked https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php ? You have only 30 days to see the account thief's IP address.

Holy crap! Thanks for that link. Here is the result:

2019-06-25 18:52:29   2019-06-25 19:53:15   xx.xxx.xxx.xx   XXXXXXXx, Germany
2019-06-24 22:00:53   2019-06-24 22:01:56   xxxx:xx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx   XXXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-24 20:03:48   2019-06-24 20:52:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx    XXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-19 09:38:21   2019-06-20 14:02:48   42.201.183.65   Karachi, Pakistan

Indeed, somebody from Pakistan used my account!

But hey, you know.... I could have used a VPN....

Could you let any trusted member of the community log into your account to verify the IP log ?
Once done - and given that the IP log indeed shows a weird login from pakistan - i will too remove my negative rating.

xtraelv

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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide

A lot of sold accounts have been stolen.
A common way to have your account stolen is through visiting a phishing site.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thebitcointalknet-and-bitcointalkto-are-fake-phishing-sites-edited-4426885

Be very careful with clicking google links. Many of the links direct to phishing sites.

LoyceV

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Quote from: mindrust on June 25, 2019, 04:03:19 PM

The community isn't fully convinced it seems, I'll change the color of the trust rating from red to neutral explaining what happened.

I'd say there's reasonable doubt. It's not the first case I've seen recently in which an account was used by someone else without changing the password. That's probably to prevent the account from getting locked or recovered by the real owner.

zackie

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Quote from: mindrust on June 25, 2019, 04:03:19 PM

The community isn't fully convinced it seems, I'll change the color of the trust rating from red to neutral explaining what happened.

I see bought accounts with neutral ratings from time to time and since you showed some effort by signing a message from a very old address, I'll give you that.

Thanks for that

zackie

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Quote from: LoyceV on June 25, 2019, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:52:14 PM

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care.

Have you checked https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php ? You have only 30 days to see the account thief's IP address.

Holy crap! Thanks for that link. Here is the result:

2019-06-25 18:52:29   2019-06-25 19:53:15   xx.xxx.xxx.xx   XXXXXXXx, Germany
2019-06-24 22:00:53   2019-06-24 22:01:56   xxxx:xx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx   XXXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-24 20:03:48   2019-06-24 20:52:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx    XXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-19 09:38:21   2019-06-20 14:02:48   42.201.183.65   Karachi, Pakistan

Indeed, somebody from Pakistan used my account!

But hey, you know.... I could have used a VPN....

mindrust

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Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:09:40 PM

Hi guys,

I've had some time to think about what has happend so far. Yesterday I felt anger towards mindrust and I said that my account didn't get hacked.
But it looks like it was definitively the case and I should thank mindrust for discovering that. Otherwise I could have lost it to a scammer.
So thanks mindrust!

It also doesn't make sense to contact Cryptios and waste his and my time. If I had done something fishy, I would have used a VPN.

The only thing I can do is signing a message with an old BTC address. I found an old post from 2013 with a BTC address in it and I still own the private key.
So what do you want me to sign?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2201120

I hope that helps to prove that I'm at least the person who opened the account in 2013. Someone could still argue that I know "SeW900" an that I wanted to sell my
account through him. Roll Eyes

Think about that: 140 Dollars is probably a lot of money in some countries, but here in Germany it's nothing! 125 Euros? Seriously?
I could earn more by working during the time it takes to sell my account.

EDIT:

Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=

I didn't discover anything, the OP did. I only tagged your account so it will be visible to the other forum members.

The community isn't fully convinced it seems, I'll change the color of the trust rating from red to neutral explaining what happened.

I see bought accounts with neutral ratings from time to time and since you showed some effort by signing a message from a very old address, I'll give you that.

LoyceV

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Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:52:14 PM

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care.

Have you checked https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php ? You have only 30 days to see the account thief's IP address.

bones261

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 25, 2019, 03:49:27 PM

The signed message doesn’t prove anything unfortunately. I also don’t buy the whole hacked argument either.

I don't buy it either. However, it's plausible that the account is still under the control of the original owner. It may be an account farmer trying to rescue the value of his merchandise. Who knows. However, we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps a neutral tag is more in order in this case. At least with the new system, neutral rating's show up as a tally.

AdolfinWolf

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Quote from: zackie on June 25, 2019, 03:09:40 PM

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Uhmm okay... So according to your previous posts, you've gotten no notice of your account being breached, and yet after being gone for 8 months, all of a sudden you find the topic where someone is providing proof that you're selling your account?

How did you notice (?) I mean, the entropy of you just all of a sudden stumbling upon this post/thread must be like.. insane...?

zackie

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 25, 2019, 03:49:27 PM

The signed message doesn’t prove anything unfortunately. I also don’t buy the whole hacked argument either.

Haha, yes. Exactly what I wrote in my last post! The never ending story!

At least I can understand you all. The world is full of scammers who want to steal your money! So be careful!

zackie

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Quote from: Steamtyme on June 25, 2019, 03:29:35 PM

This doesn't prove you didn't try to sell the account, neither does saying it's not worth it to for you to sell it. So without any other attempts by you to prove it was hacked which the Cryptios team may have been able to do, it will forever look like you just got caught.

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care. As I said, 125 Euros is no money here in Germany, all this efforts wouldn't make sense.

So looks like I'm done here, my time is precious. At least I'm happy to have my account (back).

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