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You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.
And you think that's healthy for the forum?

I do think it is unethical to tell him that you will trade with him after he provides information, and after receiving information, you do not trade with him "prove the second, then we can do it", and to say that you will pay for something, and subsequently not pay "I pay 350 if it's good" "I pay 550 for green trust legendary ok". It also looks like you entered into a contract with the person, but it does not appear you followed through: "Ok send me message from this acc and we have deal", responding to https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 that is a "green trust hero member" to which you agreed to pay 550 for. I don't see evidence you paid him.

If this person were to open up a written contract flag against you, it would be valid.
Interesting point of view. I kind of agree here, despite these people being account sellers, was it really right to mislead them (and in a way, scam them?) as 2 wrongs don't make a right. Curious as to how other people think about this..

Although, i hate people who moral high horse, and these account sellers damn well know what they're doing.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.
You most definitely can & what exactly is your problem?

Account sales according to the rulles of this website are NOT prohibited. Flagging these accounts is abuse of the trust system. Case closed.
Scamming is also not prohibited... Is flagging scammers also abuse of the "trust" system?

You're comparing apples and oranges. Scammers make a user lose Value. Buying an account to join a sig campaign has no victims. your point is moot. Next?
legendary
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Account sales according to the rulles of this website are NOT prohibited. Flagging these accounts is abuse of the trust system. Case closed.

No flags here as far as I see. Only ratings.

Even though you can create yellow flags which is appropriate.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.
And you think that's healthy for the forum?

I do think it is unethical to tell him that you will trade with him after he provides information, and after receiving information, you do not trade with him "prove the second, then we can do it", and to say that you will pay for something, and subsequently not pay "I pay 350 if it's good" "I pay 550 for green trust legendary ok". It also looks like you entered into a contract with the person, but it does not appear you followed through: "Ok send me message from this acc and we have deal", responding to https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 that is a "green trust hero member" to which you agreed to pay 550 for. I don't see evidence you paid him.

If this person were to open up a written contract flag against you, it would be valid.
Interesting point of view. I kind of agree here, despite these people being account sellers, was it really right to mislead them (and in a way, scam them?) as 2 wrongs don't make a right. Curious as to how other people think about this..

Although, i hate people who moral high horse, and these account sellers damn well know what they're doing.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.
You most definitely can & what exactly is your problem?

Account sales according to the rulles of this website are NOT prohibited. Flagging these accounts is abuse of the trust system. Case closed.
Scamming is also not prohibited as per the unofficial official forum rules... Is flagging scammers also abuse of the "trust" system?
legendary
Activity: 3276
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I do think it is unethical to tell him that you will trade with him after he provides information, and after receiving information, you do not trade with him "prove the second, then we can do it", and to say that you will pay for something, and subsequently not pay "I pay 350 if it's good" "I pay 550 for green trust legendary ok". It also looks like you entered into a contract with the person, but it does not appear you followed through: "Ok send me message from this acc and we have deal", responding to https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 that is a "green trust hero member" to which you agreed to pay 550 for. I don't see evidence you paid him.

If this person were to open up a written contract flag against you, it would be valid.
Interesting point of view. I kind of agree here, despite these people being account sellers, was it really right to mislead them (and in a way, scam them?) as 2 wrongs don't make a right. Curious as to how other people think about this..


I kinda agree with quickseller but since I am not the one who shared those PM's I don't care.

It is OP's problem.
member
Activity: 270
Merit: 17
You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.
And you think that's healthy for the forum?

I do think it is unethical to tell him that you will trade with him after he provides information, and after receiving information, you do not trade with him "prove the second, then we can do it", and to say that you will pay for something, and subsequently not pay "I pay 350 if it's good" "I pay 550 for green trust legendary ok". It also looks like you entered into a contract with the person, but it does not appear you followed through: "Ok send me message from this acc and we have deal", responding to https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 that is a "green trust hero member" to which you agreed to pay 550 for. I don't see evidence you paid him.

If this person were to open up a written contract flag against you, it would be valid.
Interesting point of view. I kind of agree here, despite these people being account sellers, was it really right to mislead them (and in a way, scam them?) as 2 wrongs don't make a right. Curious as to how other people think about this..

Although, i hate people who moral high horse, and these account sellers damn well know what they're doing.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.
You most definitely can & what exactly is your problem?

Account sales according to the rulles of this website are NOT prohibited. Flagging these accounts is abuse of the trust system. Case closed.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.
And you think that's healthy for the forum?

I do think it is unethical to tell him that you will trade with him after he provides information, and after receiving information, you do not trade with him "prove the second, then we can do it", and to say that you will pay for something, and subsequently not pay "I pay 350 if it's good" "I pay 550 for green trust legendary ok". It also looks like you entered into a contract with the person, but it does not appear you followed through: "Ok send me message from this acc and we have deal", responding to https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 that is a "green trust hero member" to which you agreed to pay 550 for. I don't see evidence you paid him.

If this person were to open up a written contract flag against you, it would be valid.
Interesting point of view. I kind of agree here, despite these people being account sellers, was it really right to mislead them (and in a way, scam them?) as 2 wrongs don't make a right. Curious as to how other people think about this..

Although, i hate people who moral high horse others, and these account sellers damn well know what they're doing.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.
You most definitely can & what exactly is your problem?
member
Activity: 270
Merit: 17
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?

How did you get that idea?

You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.

Signature campaigns don't want bought accounts farmed by one person. (they clearly state that you'll get banned if you were found to multiaccount spamming) They want real individuals. So your argument is invalid.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.

I just did it for 5 accounts in this topic.

You're too quick witted for me....i think you deserve a spot in the DT list with those other ass clowns.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?

How did you get that idea?

You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.

Signature campaigns don't want bought accounts farmed by one person. (they clearly state that you'll get banned if you were found to multiaccount spamming) They want real individuals. So your argument is invalid.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.

I just did it for 5 accounts in this topic.
member
Activity: 270
Merit: 17
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?

How did you get that idea?

You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.

Signature campaigns don't want bought accounts farmed by one person. (they clearly state that you'll get banned if you were found to multiaccount spamming) They want real individuals. So your argument is invalid.

you cant tell if an account is bought.  you're an idiot.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?

How did you get that idea?

You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.

Signature campaigns don't want bought accounts farmed by one person. (they clearly state that you'll get banned if you were found to multiaccount spamming) They want real individuals. So your argument is invalid.
member
Activity: 270
Merit: 17
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?

How did you get that idea?

You ever come across the notion that people want to buy an established account to join a sig campaign instead of devoting time and bullshit establishing an account?  you fuckers throwing rocks live in glass houses.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?

How did you get that idea?

I don't make threats. I do it right away.
member
Activity: 270
Merit: 17
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

Are you threatening me with a baseless accusation trust rating?
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2371
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zackie (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zackie-99997) [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
Zedster (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zedster-78317) [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
Ntrain2k https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
narousberg https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/narousberg-61971 [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
These are the only ones that are proven to be up for sale, but only to the extent the PMs can be proven.

I do think it is unethical to tell him that you will trade with him after he provides information, and after receiving information, you do not trade with him "prove the second, then we can do it", and to say that you will pay for something, and subsequently not pay "I pay 350 if it's good" "I pay 550 for green trust legendary ok". It also looks like you entered into a contract with the person, but it does not appear you followed through: "Ok send me message from this acc and we have deal", responding to https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 that is a "green trust hero member" to which you agreed to pay 550 for. I don't see evidence you paid him.

If this person were to open up a written contract flag against you, it would be valid.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.

It is not a crime.

You'll just have to live with a red trust rating shining on your forehead.

It shouldn't be a problem for anybody to start as a newbie. Why would anyone want to buy a green trust legendary account anyway? There is only one explanation which makes sense: to Scam people.
member
Activity: 270
Merit: 17
selling accounts is not a crime nor is it a case for the dickheads of the bitcointalk police DT users.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 3276
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I am selling your account for 2btc.

This is basically what he was doing. That's the part which confused me exactly.

I guess in this situation It comes down to that If I trust YOU or not.
Which is why bob123 asked the account seller to send them a message from said account they supposedly had for sale, right?

>>https://imgur.com/if7k5iX

Or do you not trust/want to take bob's word for it in this situation?

Didn't see that one. Now it is all clear. Was celebrating $11k gotten a bit clumsy.  Grin
legendary
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What exact scenario are you insecure about ? How can this be a game if the owner of the account took part in it ?

~snip~

I am selling your account for 2btc.

This is basically what he was doing. That's the part which confused me exactly.

I guess in this situation It comes down to that If I trust YOU or not.


Not exactly.

If a buyer now wants you to proof that you own the account and you send a message from my account.. then this is what happened.
If you just claim you sell this account without any proof of ownership, this is far away from what happened.



Maybe bob123 can give you access to his throwaway account alice321 to verify the posts if you don't believe the screenshots.

Absolutely, not a problem at all.

I can give any (trusted) member the credentials to log in and verify.



@op can you provide some proof of the telegram convo please.

Edit. Specifically the conversation with 'SeW900'  (or better: @TrustedAccSeller

As far as i understood SeW900 is not @TrustedAccSeller, but a friend of him.
SeW900 is 'Walter' and 'his friend' (the person who sells the accounts) is @TrustedAccSeller.


All conversations can be seen in the screenshots i uploaded:



[...]
Screenshots of the chat history:



Screenshot of my received PMs: here and here.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
I am selling your account for 2btc.

This is basically what he was doing. That's the part which confused me exactly.

I guess in this situation It comes down to that If I trust YOU or not.
Which is why bob123 asked the account seller to send them a message from said account they supposedly had for sale, right?

>>https://imgur.com/if7k5iX

Or do you not trust/want to take bob's word for it in this situation?
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