Topic: Flagging accounts which are up to sale [DT member actions needed] - page 4. (Read 11346 times)
June 25, 2019, 02:49:27 PM
The signed message doesn’t prove anything unfortunately. I also don’t buy the whole hacked argument either.
June 25, 2019, 02:45:33 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2201120
EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
Verified.EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
Please sign message and put today's date in it.
Do you mean like that:
Message: I'm the real zackie! 25.06.2019
Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: H7YRZX+u6Hn74XJDfxsWhxPfFcr4a7BHzZkecds67jajGFQgo7KouaDIlq/SF5+Xei6sSNYNRjP1sjo5hYPSgiw=
June 25, 2019, 02:32:12 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2201120
EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
Verified.EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
Please sign message and put today's date in it.
Do you mean like that:
Message: I'm the real zackie! 25.06.2019
Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: H7YRZX+u6Hn74XJDfxsWhxPfFcr4a7BHzZkecds67jajGFQgo7KouaDIlq/SF5+Xei6sSNYNRjP1sjo5hYPSgiw=
Thanks, verified:Message: I'm the real zackie! 25.06.2019
Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: H7YRZX+u6Hn74XJDfxsWhxPfFcr4a7BHzZkecds67jajGFQgo7KouaDIlq/SF5+Xei6sSNYNRjP1sjo5hYPSgiw=
Now we should wait for account seller number 2 to jump in with "flag" accusation against OP
June 25, 2019, 02:29:35 PM
It also doesn't make sense to contact Cryptios and waste his and my time. If I had done something fishy, I would have used a VPN.
EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
Verified using https://bitcotools.com/verify-messages
This doesn't prove you didn't try to sell the account, neither does saying it's not worth it to for you to sell it. So without any other attempts by you to prove it was hacked which the Cryptios team may have been able to do, it will forever look like you just got caught.
If your fine with that then there's nothing left for anyone to do here.
June 25, 2019, 02:09:40 PM
Hi guys,
I've had some time to think about what has happend so far. Yesterday I felt anger towards mindrust and I said that my account didn't get hacked.
But it looks like it was definitively the case and I should thank mindrust for discovering that. Otherwise I could have lost it to a scammer.
So thanks mindrust!
It also doesn't make sense to contact Cryptios and waste his and my time. If I had done something fishy, I would have used a VPN.
The only thing I can do is signing a message with an old BTC address. I found an old post from 2013 with a BTC address in it and I still own the private key.
So what do you want me to sign?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2201120
I hope that helps to prove that I'm at least the person who opened the account in 2013. Someone could still argue that I know "SeW900" an that I wanted to sell my
account through him.
Think about that: 140 Dollars is probably a lot of money in some countries, but here in Germany it's nothing! 125 Euros? Seriously?
I could earn more by working during the time it takes to sell my account.
EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
I've had some time to think about what has happend so far. Yesterday I felt anger towards mindrust and I said that my account didn't get hacked.
But it looks like it was definitively the case and I should thank mindrust for discovering that. Otherwise I could have lost it to a scammer.
So thanks mindrust!
It also doesn't make sense to contact Cryptios and waste his and my time. If I had done something fishy, I would have used a VPN.
The only thing I can do is signing a message with an old BTC address. I found an old post from 2013 with a BTC address in it and I still own the private key.
So what do you want me to sign?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2201120
I hope that helps to prove that I'm at least the person who opened the account in 2013. Someone could still argue that I know "SeW900" an that I wanted to sell my
account through him.
Think about that: 140 Dollars is probably a lot of money in some countries, but here in Germany it's nothing! 125 Euros? Seriously? I could earn more by working during the time it takes to sell my account.
EDIT:
Message: I'm the real zackie!
BTC Address: 161sehE3mkW8owcE5Gt17ph2pvL1891K56
Signature: IO9Jpt4mf4H8UrI+lSCaL3wgO/ygylQyOWVDtDCIusCQYSAYKH5thX+HpbE5TbGCmDLtUEy9O99jSWr48z7R3WI=
June 25, 2019, 03:02:07 AM
After checking alice321's account, I can confirm the authenticity of these PMs.
June 25, 2019, 02:30:14 AM
Yeah, I'm really surprised. I have no explanation for that but my account is NOT for sale! And I changed the password a few minutes ago.
How can I find out wheter I got hacked? I don't have these messages in the outbox, I haven't even used this account for weeks...
How can I find out wheter I got hacked? I don't have these messages in the outbox, I haven't even used this account for weeks...
What a coincidence
I hope you understand that this is hard to believe.. especially since you didn't post in the last ~8 months and coincidentally came online yesterday
I don't see a way you can proof this certainly wasn't you or someone you tasked with selling your account.
A signed message only shows that this is really you at the moment.
And IP logs only show whether you used the same IP to log in. This doesn't say anything about someone you tasked with selling your account or a VPN / proxy you might have used.
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs.
It is trivial to fake a screenshot....they have been faked in the past few months.
I think i have shown enough proof.
It is quite amusing how you (as an account farmer) are trying to protect account seller with every possible way.
Maybe @TrustedAccSeller is your seller / buyer ?
Or is it simply you ?
Done.
I have send LoyceV a message containing the login credentials. He can verify the messages.
June 24, 2019, 06:11:58 PM
Is the PM in your outbox?
I don't have these messages in the outbox
June 24, 2019, 04:29:47 PM
WTF is going on here? Mindtrust, remove your negative feedback. My account isn't for sale. And I also did not got hacked, but I'm going to change my password right now, just to be sure!
Is the PM in your outbox?Check your IP log:
For now, I added this page where you can see your IP logs for the past 30 days: https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php . You could pretty easily write a userscript to periodically check this and warn you if it's weird. (But don't scrape it on every pageload.)
I don't want to make older IP logs automatically accessible because that'd give a hacker a bunch of useful/sensitive information. But 30 days is probably not too harmful.
I don't want to make older IP logs automatically accessible because that'd give a hacker a bunch of useful/sensitive information. But 30 days is probably not too harmful.
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs.
I don't know that Admins would take the time to authenticate the PM's.
).I have some old addresses from 2015 or even 2013 to sign.
It has to be an address posted in an unedited old post. June 24, 2019, 04:23:57 PM
It is trivial to fake a screenshot....they have been faked in the past few months.
Correct but usually there is a motive or something to gain from doing so for people who are inclined to try and spread the lies. I don't see any reason for that here, if nothing there is immensely more to lose from pulling those sort of shenanigans. So taken in context I believe the screenshots to be authentic. So in this instance I would ask again what you would need to see for proof?
I'm always interested to find more ways to authenticate online conversations, good tools to have with all the he said she said stuff that goes on.
June 24, 2019, 04:16:10 PM
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs.
I don't know that Admins would take the time to authenticate the PM's. I would say OP showed their work on this just fine using the screenshot of the PM's they were able to receive in an attempt to prove availability of accounts for sale. That being said zackie has been shown a way to prove their claims that they were hacked didn't notice and then came back to see the tag. What more proof would you be looking for apart from the image showing received PM's? There are also chat logs to back them up.
June 24, 2019, 04:11:39 PM
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs.
I don't know that Admins would take the time to authenticate the PM's. I would say OP showed their work on this just fine using the screenshot of the PM's they were able to receive in an attempt to prove availability of accounts for sale. That being said zackie has been shown a way to prove their claims that they were hacked didn't notice and then came back to see the tag. What more proof would you be looking for apart from the image showing received PM's? There are also chat logs to back them up.
June 24, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
Another option is to reach out to the Cryptios team. They have access to some IP data for users and their accounts when they log in, to help with account recoveries or lock accounts that seem to be acting suspicious. Not sure if they will respond but that's the route I would go to clear my name in this situation.
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs. June 24, 2019, 03:55:13 PM
Thanks for that. I will contact him tomorrow, it's late here in Germany....
No problem. It's the only way to really provide insight that it wasn't you. Not definitive as far as I know but helpful especially if they logged in from half way around the world. Unless you were doing some form of 24 hour live stream but that's unlikely.
June 24, 2019, 03:52:38 PM
Another option is to reach out to the Cryptios team. They have access to some IP data for users and their accounts when they log in, to help with account recoveries or lock accounts that seem to be acting suspicious. Not sure if they will respond but that's the route I would go to clear my name in this situation.
Thanks for that. I will contact him tomorrow, it's late here in Germany....
June 24, 2019, 03:51:25 PM
That doesn't make sense.
Your private key belongs (and should) to you and you only.
Unless they're alluding to the fact that some sellers provide the staked key along with the account sale?Your private key belongs (and should) to you and you only.
Wrong "t" bruh.
Ah, so mintrus right?Hmm... So IP check is a better solution I guess.
Never use a password you used before on any website. Databases are getting hacked daily.
June 24, 2019, 03:49:44 PM
That doesn't make sense.
Your private key belongs (and should) to you and you only.
Unless they're alluding to the fact that some sellers provide the staked key along with the account sale?Your private key belongs (and should) to you and you only.
Wrong "t" bruh.
Ah, so mintrus right? June 24, 2019, 03:48:26 PM
Now you need to verify if you really are the original owner of the account. Signing a message from an old address would work.
I have some old addresses from 2015 or even 2013 to sign. But that wouldn't proof anything. I'm not the only one with some old addresses.
That doesn't make sense.
Your private key belongs (and should) to you and you only. (you need to have had posted that address sometime in the past in the forum, so we'll know if that's really you)
Might be an address you used to join a giveaway, sig camp. whatever.
June 24, 2019, 03:47:59 PM
Another option is to reach out to the Cryptios team. They have access to some IP data for users and their accounts when they log in, to help with account recoveries or lock accounts that seem to be acting suspicious. Not sure if they will respond but that's the route I would go to clear my name in this situation.
June 24, 2019, 03:46:48 PM
Yeah, I'm really surprised. I have no explanation for that but my account is NOT for sale! And I changed the password a few minutes ago.
How can I find out wheter I got hacked? I don't have these messages in the outbox, I haven't even used this account for weeks...
Unfortunately, there is no way to prove that you did not send that message unless we pry into your every detail of your life during the surrounding period.How can I find out wheter I got hacked? I don't have these messages in the outbox, I haven't even used this account for weeks...
There is no way to differentiate a user that sent the message and is now lying about not sending the message and one that didn't send the message (where some other entity did)
And it is mindrust.
The T is silent.
Cool, thanks mindrus'The T is silent.
Wrong "t" bruh.
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