@op can you provide some proof of the telegram convo please.
Edit. Specifically the conversation with 'SeW900' (or better: @TrustedAccSeller
Topic: Flagging accounts which are up to sale [DT member actions needed] - page 8. (Read 11346 times)
What exact scenario are you insecure about ? How can this be a game if the owner of the account took part in it ?
I am selling your account for 2btc.
This is basically what he was doing. That's the part which confused me exactly.
I guess in this situation It comes down to that If I trust YOU or not.
How do I know If this isn't a game to make these accounts get red trust?
The account is suspicious as fuck with no merits, only 2 posts in 2018. But how can I be sure?
Maybe bob123 can give you access to his throwaway account alice321 to verify the posts if you don't believe the screenshots. The account is suspicious as fuck with no merits, only 2 posts in 2018. But how can I be sure?
(let's say) I red trusted this guy for example but there is a problem.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659
How do I know If this isn't a game to make these accounts get red trust?
The account is suspicious as fuck with no merits, only 2 posts in 2018. But how can I be sure?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659
How do I know If this isn't a game to make these accounts get red trust?
The account is suspicious as fuck with no merits, only 2 posts in 2018. But how can I be sure?
1. I was speaking to an account seller
2. He offered to sell this account
3. He proved that he indeed owns this account.
I understand this concern regarding the other accounts (where i didn't get any proof about the ownership)
I mean.. i could say "i sell account 'theymos' for 1 BTC'.. without proof you can't be sure.
But in this case i strongly believe this is evidence enough
What exact scenario are you insecure about ? How can this be a game if the owner of the account took part in it ?
OP of the first link you posted has already deleted his post so I can't know If you are telling the truth or not now.
Seems like he already did so, at least for the messages where they're stating it's them selling accounts.(let's say) I red trusted this guy for example but there is a problem.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659
How do I know If this isn't a game to make these accounts get red trust?
The account is suspicious as fuck with no merits, only 2 posts in 2018. But how can I be sure?
Damn. A+ for effort. That's some hardcore detective work. Here i was thinking Legendary/Hero account sellers were a myth by now.
This one also just suddenly stopped posting in russian.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/narousberg-61971
This one too, and way more obvious. Literally every post is in russian right up until somewhere in 2018, where it suddenly switches to english only. Definitely sold or maybe hacked? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pant-79-203430
Even then, i highly doubt the original owner will come back for them in most cases.
OP of the first link you posted has already deleted his post so I can't know If you are telling the truth or not now.
Seems like he already did so, at least for the messages where they're stating it's them selling accounts.All these might be hacked accounts as well,so need to check if someone claiming the ownership soon.
What i was thinking. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 is most definitely a hacked account.This one also just suddenly stopped posting in russian.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/narousberg-61971
This one too, and way more obvious. Literally every post is in russian right up until somewhere in 2018, where it suddenly switches to english only. Definitely sold or maybe hacked? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pant-79-203430
Even then, i highly doubt the original owner will come back for them in most cases.
Better to be in Reputation section.
All these might be hacked accounts as well,so need to check if someone claiming the ownership soon.
All these might be hacked accounts as well,so need to check if someone claiming the ownership soon.
I decided to use some spare time to get some accounts - which are up to sale - flagged.
I found 2 threads claiming to sell forum accounts:
1) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-5155184 (archived link): User 'SeW900'
2) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-bitcointalk-account-member-to-hero-5139800 (archived link): User 'Rueduciel'
Both of them contained their telegram ID, so i just went ahead and contacted both of them.
1)
The accounts provided by 'SeW900' (or better: @TrustedAccSeller on telegram) were:
According to him, some of them (the first and/or the second one) are already banned.
However, the remaining ones - which he wanted to sell - are not banned yet.
2)
The accounts provided by Rueduciel were:
I asked both of them to send me (user: alice321, just created today to receive those messages) a proof that they indeed own that account.
1)
After requesting proof of ownership of cicizhang and TanClan98 from SeW900, he told me that 'the account' already is banned.
Therefore he proposed me 2 other accounts, which i can buy (zackie and Zedster).
He told me to contact @TrustedAccSeller (via telegram), which i did.
After a long conversation with him and multiple excuses i brought up to not buy an account which he had proven the ownership of (because i wanted to tag as much accounts as possible), i finally got the proof of ownership of multiple accounts and names of a few accounts without proof of ownership.
The accounts proven to be for sale and owned by him (zackie, Zedster, Ntrain2k and narousberg) should definitely receive a negative trust rating.
I am not sure about the accounts without proof (cicizhang, TanClan98, nonnakip and pant-79). I'll let some DT member decide how to handle this.
2)
Rueduciel offered me J Gambler.But he did not send me a proof for ownership because he noticed that this account already is reserved for some other buyer.
Therefore he proposed me the account fitty, which he proved that he indeed has control over this account via a PM.
But now i really wanted to also have his first account (J Gambler) to be flagged too. I asked him whether i can have this account if i additionally pay 50$ on top (not like 400$ aren't enough already).
He agreed.
Unfortunately i made a big mistake by leaving him a negative trust rating BEFORE contacting, paired with my sense of humor regarding the chosen username, which interfered my plan. He came to the conclusion that my alt (alice321) is related to me (bob123).
While it is not proven that J Gambler is really under control of him, i still believe that he indeed wants to sell this account.
I am not sure about leaving a negative trust rating on this account, therefore i will let the DT members decide how to handle this.
fitty definitely should receive a negative trust rating.
Screenshots of the chat history:
Screenshot of my received PMs: here and here.
I have sent a negative trust rating to fitty, zackie, Zedster, Ntrain2k and narousberg.
Now i need a few (at least 1) DT member to also leave a negative trust rating.
Especially for Ntrain2k, since he has 6 positive trust feedbacks.
No one should trust an account which is up to sale. Especially not Hero / Legendary ones and some with a positive trust rating.
I found 2 threads claiming to sell forum accounts:
1) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-5155184 (archived link): User 'SeW900'
2) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-bitcointalk-account-member-to-hero-5139800 (archived link): User 'Rueduciel'
Both of them contained their telegram ID, so i just went ahead and contacted both of them.
1)
The accounts provided by 'SeW900' (or better: @TrustedAccSeller on telegram) were:
- cicizhang (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cicizhang-935809)
- TanClan98 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tanclan98-1045919)
- zackie (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zackie-99997) [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
- Zedster (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zedster-78317) [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
- Ntrain2k https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ntrain2k-167659 [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
- nonnakip https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nonnakip-69046
- narousberg https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/narousberg-61971 [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
- pant-79 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pant-79-203430
According to him, some of them (the first and/or the second one) are already banned.
However, the remaining ones - which he wanted to sell - are not banned yet.
2)
The accounts provided by Rueduciel were:
- J Gambler (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/j-gambler-821674)
- fitty (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fitty-25298) [Proven that the account is really up to sale and owned by the seller]
I asked both of them to send me (user: alice321, just created today to receive those messages) a proof that they indeed own that account.
1)
After requesting proof of ownership of cicizhang and TanClan98 from SeW900, he told me that 'the account' already is banned.
Therefore he proposed me 2 other accounts, which i can buy (zackie and Zedster).
He told me to contact @TrustedAccSeller (via telegram), which i did.
After a long conversation with him and multiple excuses i brought up to not buy an account which he had proven the ownership of (because i wanted to tag as much accounts as possible), i finally got the proof of ownership of multiple accounts and names of a few accounts without proof of ownership.
The accounts proven to be for sale and owned by him (zackie, Zedster, Ntrain2k and narousberg) should definitely receive a negative trust rating.
I am not sure about the accounts without proof (cicizhang, TanClan98, nonnakip and pant-79). I'll let some DT member decide how to handle this.
2)
Rueduciel offered me J Gambler.But he did not send me a proof for ownership because he noticed that this account already is reserved for some other buyer.
Therefore he proposed me the account fitty, which he proved that he indeed has control over this account via a PM.
But now i really wanted to also have his first account (J Gambler) to be flagged too. I asked him whether i can have this account if i additionally pay 50$ on top (not like 400$ aren't enough already).
He agreed.
Unfortunately i made a big mistake by leaving him a negative trust rating BEFORE contacting, paired with my sense of humor regarding the chosen username, which interfered my plan. He came to the conclusion that my alt (alice321) is related to me (bob123).
While it is not proven that J Gambler is really under control of him, i still believe that he indeed wants to sell this account.
I am not sure about leaving a negative trust rating on this account, therefore i will let the DT members decide how to handle this.
fitty definitely should receive a negative trust rating.
Screenshots of the chat history:
- 1) with SeW900 ('Walter' on telegram): https://i.imgur.com/7lTjZxs.jpg
- 2) with Rueduciel ('Mara Mae' on telegram): https://i.imgur.com/dt4l4KX.jpg
Screenshot of my received PMs: here and here.
I have sent a negative trust rating to fitty, zackie, Zedster, Ntrain2k and narousberg.
Now i need a few (at least 1) DT member to also leave a negative trust rating.
Especially for Ntrain2k, since he has 6 positive trust feedbacks.
No one should trust an account which is up to sale. Especially not Hero / Legendary ones and some with a positive trust rating.
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