Topic: Flat Earth - page 217. (Read 1095196 times)

There is another one for South Pole. I'll let you find it on your own.

Are you certain in another lifetime you weren't comical Ali?

31V is some 3000 km from imaginary pole (888+1330+888)
Is there now only one fantasy pole (north) or no such made up grid was needed for south pole.
Which part of the stacking have you got difficulty with the 1 , 10, 100, 1000, 10000 or 100000  meter square

Thanks man, I appreciate.

I see globe believers are getting nuts over you big time. Keep up the good work.

Check this out:
Official Flat Earth & Globe Discussion Hit the Streets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM0uL-yhvLg

https://www.facebook.com/groups/OfficialFlatEarthAndGlobeDiscussion/

Interesting indeed. Also interesting that there is a different MGRS grid for the polar region that shows why the skipping occurred:

Globe Earth has been and can be proven by horizon events on land rather than at sea.

Also, if you examine everything other than the earth itself that can be examined, there is nothing flat. Flat is all perspective. Detailed examination shows that there is nothing flat, so why would anyone think the earth could be flat?

Lets stick to facts.

The Military Grid Reference System (MGRS) is used by NATO militaries for locating points on the earth and is accurate within 1 meter square and one square can be as large as 100000 meter (100km). A square within a square, square.......
Come on show me how you do that on a globe. Tell me how you calculate a large triangle on sphere, or have parallel lines on a ball.
A you suggesting NATO is wrong and does not know how large Greenland is?

http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/coordsys/mmr201.pdf



The MGRS grid system is very similar to UTM zones. Interesting is the skipping of 31V and 32X, 34X 36X. Who wants to go to Spitsbergen, (33X)
With so exceptions each grid is 666 meter wide and 888 km height.





Transcontinental Russian rail track from Moscow–Vladivostok is 9,289 kilometres (5,772 miles) long and takes 8 days. From Kiev its another 2k. Are you suggesting it is wrong also.
I can tell you how long the Nullarbor Plain in Australia is as i crossed it from Perth to Adelaide. If i remember correctly it was 2 days and 3 nites and yes its flat for hours on end in every direction.

agreed, but sometimes trolling feeding the trolls can be fun.

Frankly we should just stop commenting here. Its more fun to watch them cannibalize themselves. I think they get their rocks off by coming up with absurd counterarguments, strange as it may sound.

You're not seriously suggesting that Greenland is about as big as South America? Every flat map is distorted.

Regarding the horizon...

If you are 6 feet tall,
and you are standing on the beach looking out to sea at a ship,
if the top of the mast is a hundred feet above sea level,
you will still see the top of the mast at a great distance away.

The reason for the great distance is the great curvature of the earth. If the earth globe were not so large, the horizon would not be so far off. The distance is what makes observations unreliable... because of atmospheric aberrations, etc.

If you were the same 6-foot-tall person,
at the same place on the beach,
looking out at the same ship,
but you were buried in the sand up to your chin,
(like people bury themselves in sand at the beach),
the ship would have to be a lot closer,
so that you could see the same part of the top of the mast,
as you did when you were standing on the beach.

When the ship is closer, you get a much better view because of less aberration of the atmosphere, and less interference from whatever other atmospheric effects and conditions. Now that you don't have the atmospheric effects, you can clearly see that the earth is a globe, as the ship goes over the horizon.


When you are on straight and level land,
and you place your eyes near the ground,
by the side of a straight and level road,
(maybe get into the ditch),
the horizon is so near and the atmospheric aberrations so limited,
that you can easily see the horizon effect of globe earth,
in the way a moving car gradually disappears over the horizon.

You don't need some silly ship-at-sea thing. Everybody can do this right where they are at. You can use your digital camera. The distance is so close that even if you use a fish-eye lens, the effect of the lens will be negligible regarding how the car goes over the horizon. Any mirage-like atmospheric effect will be so small that it will make no difference with regard to the car clearly going over the horizon. Now, you can tell the earth is a globe, by eye or by camera, no matter who you are.


Of course, the above will have to be modified in some ways. My directions may not be exact for you and your location. You will have to consider your own details for your own location. But almost anyone can figure out how to do this enough to prove that the earth is a globe.

No flat Earth there.      

This sums it up i guess ...

Now this thread is reduced to two pigeons playing chess with each other.

Nothing suspect, pure facts.
Russia is from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok about 10k and 4k North to South
Australia, Perth to Brisbane 4K and 3,7k North-South (Darwin to Hobart in km).


Red and Blue square are of equal lenght (i think 1k miles in this case) thats how Equi-distant maps work.

Apart from making nice sundials like geasons or other Azimuthal Equidistant Maps its main purpose and existence was/(is) to make navigation unnecessary complicated and expensive. Only select few could do it as schooling, maps are expensive and must be updated regularly.
A solder on the other hand on average is not that smart (otherwise he would not be try to terminate same kind) or has the means to carry or buy expensive distorted charts so he is not using them.

Hard core facts, Russia (from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok) is about 10k East-West and 4k North South, Australia East-West as the Crow flies Perth to Brisbane 4K and 3,7k North-South (Darwin to Hobart in km).

I find your statements suspect...








Meanwhile, over at NASA:

Q: How many hours are there in 1 day?







A: 12 hours.

Gleason's or other Azimuthal Equidistant (Equal distant) maps are distorted images as each square is of equal distance. You cant make that type of map without distortion. It is used by sailors with various scales.

Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:

Scaling for soldier is easier and cheaper as no need to buy expensive navigation charts.

There's times in life when you need to read between the lines.

That's not what the description text says. It clearly says its a projection of a globe with poles.

"This map is made on the North Polar Azimuthal Equidistant Projection. This means that the world has been projected on a plane tangent to the North Pole, with the parallels of latitude as concentric circles equally spaced from the pole outward."

How about the only logical conclusion is the map is what it says it is?

You lose. I'm not entertaining you any further.