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504 pages on this is worrying.
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1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
They have some really weird ''explanations'' of why this doesn't work. I don't remember exactly what the idea was, hopefully our crazy friend notbatman can help us here.
The magnetic compass points north, this is the center. South is Antarctica; a ring of ice and land that encloses the oceans and continents. Travel east or west via the compass and you will go in a circle.
So there is no way to actually ever travel in a straight line?
Quote from: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/33938/do-any-flights-go-over-the-south-pole
Please forgive me for asking if you are a "flat earth truther". We sometimes get those numpties passing by trying to justify their theories (especially the one about Antarctica being a ringed ice wall with the military guarding it to make sure no-one learns the secret).
There have been many flights over the geographic South Pole, the first documented one being in 1935 by Lincoln Ellsworth and Herbert Hollick-Kenyon. See also the first flight over Antarctica.
Pan Am flight 50, using a Boeing 747SP, also flew over both poles.
No scheduled commercial flights over fly the South Pole since there are no great circle routes in use which do so.
Flights from New Zealand to South Africa would fly over Antarctica but no airline currently flies that route.
As to problems with the compass, modern aircraft have no problems since the primary navigation source is GPS. If you were using a compass only, as you got close to the magnetic South pole (remember, this is not even in Antarctica), the compass would become increasingly unreliable. Simply maintain a straight course though, over the pole, and the compass will become increasingly reliable. However, navigating over the magnetic poles using only a compass is the preserve of explorers and the fool-hardy.
This document contains more technical detail regarding navigation. It talks mainly about the North magnetic pole but is applicable to both.
A couple of other considerations when asking about commercial flights is the need for ETOPS certification and the need to carry special survival equipment when flying south of latitude 72 degrees which is very considerable and would require the removal of revenue seats to carry it.
There is a big difference between the nearest suitable diversion airport flying over the Arctic and flying over the Antarctic.
There have been many flights over the geographic South Pole, the first documented one being in 1935 by Lincoln Ellsworth and Herbert Hollick-Kenyon. See also the first flight over Antarctica.
Pan Am flight 50, using a Boeing 747SP, also flew over both poles.
No scheduled commercial flights over fly the South Pole since there are no great circle routes in use which do so.
Flights from New Zealand to South Africa would fly over Antarctica but no airline currently flies that route.
As to problems with the compass, modern aircraft have no problems since the primary navigation source is GPS. If you were using a compass only, as you got close to the magnetic South pole (remember, this is not even in Antarctica), the compass would become increasingly unreliable. Simply maintain a straight course though, over the pole, and the compass will become increasingly reliable. However, navigating over the magnetic poles using only a compass is the preserve of explorers and the fool-hardy.
This document contains more technical detail regarding navigation. It talks mainly about the North magnetic pole but is applicable to both.
A couple of other considerations when asking about commercial flights is the need for ETOPS certification and the need to carry special survival equipment when flying south of latitude 72 degrees which is very considerable and would require the removal of revenue seats to carry it.
There is a big difference between the nearest suitable diversion airport flying over the Arctic and flying over the Antarctic.
Check the posting for links to the data listed.
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_route
Few airlines fly between cities having a great circle route over Antarctica. Nonstop flights between South Africa and New Zealand, or between Perth, Australia and certain destinations in South America (including Buenos Aires and São Paulo), would overfly Antarctica, but no airline has scheduled such flights. Flights between Australia and South America and between Australia and South Africa pass near the Antarctic coastline. Depending on the winds, the Qantas flight QF 63 from Sydney to Johannesburg-O. R. Tambo sometimes flies over the Antarctic Circle to latitude 71 degrees as well and allowing views of the icecap. Qantas also flies nonstop between Sydney and Santiago de Chile, the most southerly polar route. Depending on winds, this flight may reach 55 degrees south latitude, but other times 71 degrees, which is enough to cross the polar ice cap. The polar route across the remote southern Pacific Ocean between South America and Oceania was pioneered by Aerolineas Argentinas, which began service between Buenos Aires via Rio Gallegos to Auckland in the 1980s with a Boeing 747-200 aircraft. Aerolineas Argentinas later operated to Sydney, but ended its flights to New Zealand and Australia in 2014.
Because of ETOPS limitations on twin-engined aircraft—the maximum distance the aircraft can operate from an airport for emergency landings—only 4-engined aircraft such as the Boeing 747 or Airbus A340 can operate routes near Antarctica. Twin-engined aircraft must fly further north, closer to potential diversion airports; for example, when Virgin Australia operated a flight from Melbourne to Johannesburg on twin-engined Boeing 777 aircraft with a 180-minute ETOPS rating, the flight was two hours longer than a Qantas flight from Sydney to Johannesburg. Air New Zealand flies nonstop between Auckland and Buenos Aires-Ezeiza; in 2015, government regulators approved its twin-engined Boeing 777-200ER aircraft that operate the route for a 330-minute ETOPS rating (i.e. its 777 aircraft can fly a maximum 330 minutes away from the nearest diversion airport), an increase from its previous 240-minute ETOPS rating. LATAM Airlines began a nonstop flight between Santiago de Chile and Sydney via Auckland in April 2015 with twin-engined Boeing 787 aircraft with a 330-minute ETOPS rating. LATAM has announced a nonstop flight between Santiago de Chile and Melbourne to begin in October 2017.
Because of ETOPS limitations on twin-engined aircraft—the maximum distance the aircraft can operate from an airport for emergency landings—only 4-engined aircraft such as the Boeing 747 or Airbus A340 can operate routes near Antarctica. Twin-engined aircraft must fly further north, closer to potential diversion airports; for example, when Virgin Australia operated a flight from Melbourne to Johannesburg on twin-engined Boeing 777 aircraft with a 180-minute ETOPS rating, the flight was two hours longer than a Qantas flight from Sydney to Johannesburg. Air New Zealand flies nonstop between Auckland and Buenos Aires-Ezeiza; in 2015, government regulators approved its twin-engined Boeing 777-200ER aircraft that operate the route for a 330-minute ETOPS rating (i.e. its 777 aircraft can fly a maximum 330 minutes away from the nearest diversion airport), an increase from its previous 240-minute ETOPS rating. LATAM Airlines began a nonstop flight between Santiago de Chile and Sydney via Auckland in April 2015 with twin-engined Boeing 787 aircraft with a 330-minute ETOPS rating. LATAM has announced a nonstop flight between Santiago de Chile and Melbourne to begin in October 2017.
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1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
They have some really weird ''explanations'' of why this doesn't work. I don't remember exactly what the idea was, hopefully our crazy friend notbatman can help us here.
The magnetic compass points north, this is the center. South is Antarctica; a ring of ice and land that encloses the oceans and continents. Travel east or west via the compass and you will go in a circle.
The vertical compass has been known for ages. It aligns itself vertically as well as horizontally, following the magnetic lines of the earth. Modern vertical compasses point downward as well as N/S/E/W. The closer you get to the North Pole, the greater their downward angle becomes, aligning themselves with the earth's magnetic flux lines. The same thing happens when you get close to the South Pole. You can approach the South Pole from any side and get the same downward pointing of the vertical compass, except that it is the opposite end of the compass that points down.
Are you going to say that the SP down pointing has to do with a magnetic ring around the FE... one that is right under the whole chunk of ice around the habitable earth?
If you can afford to go near a sea,
Approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather seem to emerge from beneath the sea.
Approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather seem to emerge from beneath the sea.
The sea is curved is it? Well you just go ahead and prove that hahaha...
You sound like a big spender. Go buy a fucking decent zoom lens, watch a boat disappear over the hirizon then zoom in and see the whole fucking boat again! Fucking goof.
I'm so brainwashed that I can't engage in critical thinking or analysis of any kind, please help!
Sure, just turn the knob a full 360 degrees until you hear the hissing sound. Then simply curl up inside and shut the door.
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1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
They have some really weird ''explanations'' of why this doesn't work. I don't remember exactly what the idea was, hopefully our crazy friend notbatman can help us here.
The magnetic compass points north, this is the center. South is Antarctica; a ring of ice and land that encloses the oceans and continents. Travel east or west via the compass and you will go in a circle.
If you can afford to go near a sea,
Approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather seem to emerge from beneath the sea.
Approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather seem to emerge from beneath the sea.
Things you can do to prove the Earth is Round>
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
1) Try to have an IQ above 100. It's a LOT harder than it sounds - half the people in the world cannot do it.
Things you can do to prove the Earth is Round>
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
They have some really weird ''explanations'' of why this doesn't work. I don't remember exactly what the idea was, hopefully our crazy friend notbatman can help us here.
Things you can do to prove the Earth is Round>
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
1. get in an airplane and fly West and keep flying west.
2. get in a Boat and sail away from the shore and watch the shore line and the mountains behind.
the shore line (beach) will disappear first but you will still be able to see the mountains. If the world was flat this would not happen.
3. Go to a tall mountain with a unobstructed view on a clear day. You can see the curve of the earth.
4. Go visit the International Space Station
Flat Earth theory as faulty with anomalies, and incorrect. As you mentioned with the 'hallway' things get smaller with distance. With Flat Earth theory the Sun (and Moon) should get smaller and smaller till it vanishes in the distance. The Sun doesn't; it disappears below the horizon at the same size it was when directly overhead. That's only possible with a spherical Earth. And, if the Moon and "Sun were the same size the Moon would appear much larger than the Sun during a solar eclipse and would block out the solar corona; that doesn't happen because the Sun is tremendously larger than the Moon and tremendously farther from Earth than the moon and only appears the same size due to perspective. Try to objectively analyze real data and concrete scientific and mathematical evidence for a spherical Earth at some point and you might learn something.
Still waiting for verifiable photos of the ice wall and the dome.
There's a saying "all the worlds a stage", the problem is people think it's all an act; just putting on a play. No, that's what they want you to think, it's actually stage magic not a play. Get it?
They're not tricking you for your amusement BTW. This is literally a cuttlefish type scenario.
They're not tricking you for your amusement BTW. This is literally a cuttlefish type scenario.
Turns out the bozo who was going to launch himself to prove the earth was flat, failed again today. He simply refused to press the launch button.
For these flattards it's more about being heard and seen. They know reality same as we do - but in reality they are no bodies... so they make this stuff up for attention.
Sorry notbatman - you may continue with your pages of garbage pretending to believe the earth is flat. :/
For these flattards it's more about being heard and seen. They know reality same as we do - but in reality they are no bodies... so they make this stuff up for attention.
Sorry notbatman - you may continue with your pages of garbage pretending to believe the earth is flat. :/
You're the clown Vod, it takes one to know one. Folks should take note that it's only the shills and MSM promoting this yahoo and his failed rocket launches; poor guy doesn't have enough gibs to hoax a proper launch like Elon Musk does.
Rocket guy with successful launch and "proof" the Earth is a globe in 3, 2, ...
He probably failed because he didn't take in consideration gravity as you people don't believe in it
Turns out the bozo who was going to launch himself to prove the earth was flat, failed again today. He simply refused to press the launch button.
For these flattards it's more about being heard and seen. They know reality same as we do - but in reality they are no bodies... so they make this stuff up for attention.
Sorry notbatman - you may continue with your pages of garbage pretending to believe the earth is flat. :/
For these flattards it's more about being heard and seen. They know reality same as we do - but in reality they are no bodies... so they make this stuff up for attention.
Sorry notbatman - you may continue with your pages of garbage pretending to believe the earth is flat. :/
You're the clown Vod, it takes one to know one. Folks should take note that it's only the shills and MSM promoting this yahoo and his failed rocket launches; poor guy doesn't have enough gibs to hoax a proper launch like Elon Musk does.
Rocket guy with successful launch and "proof" the Earth is a globe in 3, 2, ...
Turns out the bozo who was going to launch himself to prove the earth was flat, failed again today. He simply refused to press the launch button.
For these flattards it's more about being heard and seen. They know reality same as we do - but in reality they are no bodies... so they make this stuff up for attention.
Sorry notbatman - you may continue with your pages of garbage pretending to believe the earth is flat. :/
For these flattards it's more about being heard and seen. They know reality same as we do - but in reality they are no bodies... so they make this stuff up for attention.
Sorry notbatman - you may continue with your pages of garbage pretending to believe the earth is flat. :/
What happened to notbatman?
I think only geo scientists can provide you with the technical knowledge about your question, but if you watc around through a high capacity telescope then you will come to know the oval nature of this globe.
You insult the creator of this world, you should be punished! Your foul mouth description of our Earth deserves a bar of soap made from Jews to clean it out; our world is a flat and motionless plane.
Why do many people believe Flat Earth?
From the point of view of their adherents, they consider Flat Earth the truth. NASA has done a big lie about the shape of the earth. All the teaching of astronomy so far is propaganda.
From the point of view of their adherents, they consider Flat Earth the truth. NASA has done a big lie about the shape of the earth. All the teaching of astronomy so far is propaganda.
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