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legendary
Activity: 2212
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February 19, 2020, 08:02:24 PM
Most of the terraplanistas' arguments are easily refutable and come from a deeply anthropocentric and simplistic conception of the universe . On the other hand, the vision proposed by science requires a certain level of abstraction; that is, we cannot observe with the naked eye, nor experience through our own experience the phenomena that govern the universe. In fact, this is precisely what makes us human: the physical limitations that we present, which prove precisely that we are not the center of the universe and probably not the only beings that inhabit it.

You're tripping balls dude, the mad impossible spinning carnival ride that is the heliocentric model exists only in your head.
sr. member
Activity: 421
Merit: 250
February 19, 2020, 07:59:12 PM

So what happened to the waters from above the firmament that were so.?

And where did the universe come in or is that the same thing in your book?

The waters are still there. Keep in mind the standard understanding of the universe as astronomy describes, and read your answer here:
Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.

You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.

Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.

The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.

Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.

With regard to this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.

You are missing it quite badly.


Cool
verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters. Huh??

I think ive found your problem.!

You are reading the wrong book.!!!!, or you must have a bad copy.

This is verse 6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
February 19, 2020, 07:53:57 PM

What's even funnier is a dufus rational thinking person who doesn't even understands the non-existence of God a sky fairy, poking fun of reality that two others are trying to clarify between themselves.
Cool

FTFY


AKA .... two wackaloons in a pissing contest, debating which sky fairy version is correct , etc, etc.... (see my previous post)
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 19, 2020, 07:18:00 PM

So what happened to the waters from above the firmament that were so.?

And where did the universe come in or is that the same thing in your book?

The waters are still there. Keep in mind the standard understanding of the universe as astronomy describes, and read your answer here:
Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.

You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.

Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.

The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.

Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.

With regard to this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.

You are missing it quite badly.


Cool
sr. member
Activity: 421
Merit: 250
February 19, 2020, 05:13:55 PM
^ rāqîaʿ

"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

Possibly the most solid thing in the universe is the dome. The dome is, essentially, empty space. It reaches throughout all material into the emptiness where material barely exists. It is many light-years "high," and contains all material things, flowing through them.

This is what is said in Genesis chapter 1, especially verses 6 thru 9. How do we know that Genesis says this, even though Genesis doesn't talk about light-years? Because we have found that it is light-years in fact. So, that is what Genesis is saying.

Cool
Says who because that is not what is written.?

KJV
Gen 7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament and it was so
Gen 8 And god called the firmament Heaven and the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

So your saying Heaven is light years high?

In answer to your question, kinda no. What I mean is, if you are standing at the North Pole, the heavens are light-years high above you and the North Pole. But they aren't light-years high above the South Pole, because the South Pole is "under" you almost 8,000 miles, and the heavens that are light-years away in the direction of the South Pole, are light-years "low"... at least until you go to the South Pole. Then the heavens are light-years high above you.

Remember that St. Paul talked about being caught up to the third heaven. We have 3 heavens in simple general. The first is a layer that is the atmosphere above Earth, and it includes what we call inner space where the ISS orbits.  The second is the thing that we call outer space.

The third is God's heavenly home: Heaven is God's throne; the earth is His footstool. His heavenly home is a "space" outside of the universe, that essentially "surrounds" the universe.

Cool

So what happened to the waters from above the firmament that were so.?

And where did the universe come in or is that the same thing in your book?
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 19, 2020, 04:19:46 PM

I exposed you many times for all interested to see, here for example is the latest post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756

You're a sleazebag and The Word of The Lord will be your judge.

https://i.imgflip.com/2xzrxs.jpg


Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.

You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.

Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.

The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.

Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.

With regard to this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.

You are missing it quite badly.

Cool

I twisted nothing, just read what it states, you jesuitic false accuser.

You don't interpret The Bible, especially not with your jesuit filth. Let The bible interpret the Bible. You have zero rights to make up your own crap interpretations of the Holy Scriptures.

Here we go again:
https://i.imgflip.com/2gseq1.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/2ir2zz.jpg


Too bad you can't read in verse 6 about God placing the sky between the waters He separated. The waters above the sky is what he made the sun, moon and stars out of on day 4.

Cool

Two wackaloons in a pissing contest  debating which sky fairy version is correct in a bitcointalk thread
started and starring a third wackaloon who has trolled flat earth nonsense word salads for almost 5 years on a daily basis.

You can't make this shit up if you tried.....


What's even funnier is a dufus who doesn't even understand the existence of God, poking fun of reality that two others are trying to clarify between themselves.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 19, 2020, 04:17:02 PM
^ rāqîaʿ

"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

Possibly the most solid thing in the universe is the dome. The dome is, essentially, empty space. It reaches throughout all material into the emptiness where material barely exists. It is many light-years "high," and contains all material things, flowing through them.

This is what is said in Genesis chapter 1, especially verses 6 thru 9. How do we know that Genesis says this, even though Genesis doesn't talk about light-years? Because we have found that it is light-years in fact. So, that is what Genesis is saying.

Cool
Says who because that is not what is written.?

KJV
Gen 7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament and it was so
Gen 8 And god called the firmament Heaven and the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

So your saying Heaven is light years high?

In answer to your question, kinda no. What I mean is, if you are standing at the North Pole, the heavens are light-years high above you and the North Pole. But they aren't light-years high above the South Pole, because the South Pole is "under" you almost 8,000 miles, and the heavens that are light-years away in the direction of the South Pole, are light-years "low"... at least until you go to the South Pole. Then the heavens are light-years high above you.

Remember that St. Paul talked about being caught up to the third heaven. We have 3 heavens in simple general. The first is a layer that is the atmosphere above Earth, and it includes what we call inner space where the ISS orbits.  The second is the thing that we call outer space.

The third is God's heavenly home: Heaven is God's throne; the earth is His footstool. His heavenly home is a "space" outside of the universe, that essentially "surrounds" the universe.

Cool
sr. member
Activity: 421
Merit: 250
February 19, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
^ rāqîaʿ

"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

Possibly the most solid thing in the universe is the dome. The dome is, essentially, empty space. It reaches throughout all material into the emptiness where material barely exists. It is many light-years "high," and contains all material things, flowing through them.

This is what is said in Genesis chapter 1, especially verses 6 thru 9. How do we know that Genesis says this, even though Genesis doesn't talk about light-years? Because we have found that it is light-years in fact. So, that is what Genesis is saying.

Cool
Says who because that is not what is written.?

KJV
Gen 7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament and it was so
Gen 8 And god called the firmament Heaven and the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

So your saying Heaven is light years high?
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
February 19, 2020, 01:54:25 PM

I exposed you many times for all interested to see, here for example is the latest post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756

You're a sleazebag and The Word of The Lord will be your judge.

https://i.imgflip.com/2xzrxs.jpg


Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.

You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.

Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.

The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.

Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.

With regard to this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.

You are missing it quite badly.

Cool

I twisted nothing, just read what it states, you jesuitic false accuser.

You don't interpret The Bible, especially not with your jesuit filth. Let The bible interpret the Bible. You have zero rights to make up your own crap interpretations of the Holy Scriptures.

Here we go again:
https://i.imgflip.com/2gseq1.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/2ir2zz.jpg


Too bad you can't read in verse 6 about God placing the sky between the waters He separated. The waters above the sky is what he made the sun, moon and stars out of on day 4.

Cool

Two wackaloons in a pissing contest  debating which sky fairy version is correct in a bitcointalk thread
started and starring a third wackaloon who has trolled flat earth nonsense word salads for almost 5 years on a daily basis.

You can't make this shit up if you tried.....



newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 3
February 19, 2020, 12:32:40 PM
Most of the terraplanistas' arguments are easily refutable and come from a deeply anthropocentric and simplistic conception of the universe . On the other hand, the vision proposed by science requires a certain level of abstraction; that is, we cannot observe with the naked eye, nor experience through our own experience the phenomena that govern the universe. In fact, this is precisely what makes us human: the physical limitations that we present, which prove precisely that we are not the center of the universe and probably not the only beings that inhabit it.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 19, 2020, 12:01:37 PM
^^^ How do you think God feels about your bullshit?

Since any BS I might have, is something that doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth, I'll simply pass on this off-topic question.

However, to remain on-topic, I ask you your own question?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
February 19, 2020, 11:06:23 AM
^^^ How do you think God feels about your bullshit?
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 19, 2020, 10:27:11 AM
^ rāqîaʿ

"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

Possibly the most solid thing in the universe is the dome. The dome is, essentially, empty space. It reaches throughout all material into the emptiness where material barely exists. It is many light-years "high," and contains all material things, flowing through them.

This is what is said in Genesis chapter 1, especially verses 6 thru 9. How do we know that Genesis says this, even though Genesis doesn't talk about light-years? Because we have found that it is light-years in fact. So, that is what Genesis is saying.

Cool
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
February 19, 2020, 02:54:26 AM
Atmosphere?
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
February 19, 2020, 12:24:58 AM
^ rāqîaʿ

"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 18, 2020, 05:47:18 PM

I exposed you many times for all interested to see, here for example is the latest post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756

You're a sleazebag and The Word of The Lord will be your judge.

https://i.imgflip.com/2xzrxs.jpg


Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.

You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.

Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.

The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.

Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.

With regard to this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.

You are missing it quite badly.

Cool

I twisted nothing, just read what it states, you jesuitic false accuser.

You don't interpret The Bible, especially not with your jesuit filth. Let The bible interpret the Bible. You have zero rights to make up your own crap interpretations of the Holy Scriptures.

Here we go again:
https://i.imgflip.com/2gseq1.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/2ir2zz.jpg


Too bad you can't read in verse 6 about God placing the sky between the waters He separated. The waters above the sky is what he made the sun, moon and stars out of on day 4.

Cool
hero member
Activity: 978
Merit: 506
February 18, 2020, 04:39:48 PM

I exposed you many times for all interested to see, here for example is the latest post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756

You're a sleazebag and The Word of The Lord will be your judge.




Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.

You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.

Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.

The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.

Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.

With regard to this link, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.

You are missing it quite badly.

Cool

I twisted nothing, just read what it states, you jesuitic false accuser.

You don't interpret The Bible, especially not with your jesuit filth. Let The bible interpret the Bible. You have zero rights to make up your own crap interpretations of the Holy Scriptures.

Here we go again:





legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
February 16, 2020, 02:50:09 PM
^^^ Folks, he thinks I should bow to the authority of students.

https://i.imgur.com/iWI0YHl.jpg

He then goes on about documented video evidence of a reproducible experiment being fabricated...

Oh, and peer reviewed, meticulously documented and replicated (Silvertooth & USAF 1986) physical experiments, such as M&M 1887 are "some obscure experiments". That's right, he claims M&M 1887 is too obscure for me to use as objective evidence.

   U.S. Army Sniper "No Coriolis Effect In Long Distance Shots" -- https://youtu.be/JkeAitzFsm4

The Coriolis force acts on the outside of spinning objects, as well. That's why the gyroscope is affected by universal and galactic movement as well as earth spin.

Consider, the toilet flushes counterclockwise in the norther hemisphere, but clockwise in the southern hemisphere. It all has to do with the frame of reference... in this case the Coriolis frame of reference.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
February 16, 2020, 01:51:31 PM
^^^ Folks, he thinks I should bow to the authority of students.



He then goes on about documented video evidence of a reproducible experiment being fabricated...

Oh, and peer reviewed, meticulously documented and replicated (Silvertooth & USAF 1986) physical experiments, such as M&M 1887 are "some obscure experiments". That's right, he claims M&M 1887 is too obscure for me to use as objective evidence.

   U.S. Army Sniper "No Coriolis Effect In Long Distance Shots" -- https://youtu.be/JkeAitzFsm4



edit:
Moving on to the earth being an extended plain and the mountain shadow, its peak has a grater angle of attack to the apparent horizon than its base thus, the optical compression that occurs starting at the base of the sun is expanded, bringing the sun so it's within the angular limits of the angular size limit of the eye or camera or the diffraction grating created by the apex.

The peak is technically an eye *****.
member
Activity: 546
Merit: 30
February 16, 2020, 12:49:11 PM
@canovan25,

   The coriolis effect is nonsense bruh, you're making claims without sources, facts or, even logic. Your argument is based on an appeal to authority and an engineered consensus.

The aether drift, as experimentally proven in the Michelson–Gale–Pearson experiment (1925) is the only measurable source of rotational motion and, it's such a small force that an ultra-sensitive measurement device such as an optical interferometer is required to measure it.

The fact you're insisting that I prove a negative means this discussion has come to an end.

   [Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope Doesn't Lie -- https://youtu.be/RF829QNKtT8

It's funny, but I ask you to refute what is a well-known fact for every student. This force is used by snipers, and since they still fall, then this force really exists. Also on YouTube there are infinitely many videos that demonstrate this effect. And you have only one video, which is generally not clear where it was taken from. I can build a plant that looks like a perpetual motion machine, but the essence does not change from this. And the plane of the earth puts me in a stupor by the fact that I do not understand why flights do not occur through the north pole?After all, corporations are aimed at profit, and not at licking NASA. Or the simplest fact is that the sun rises earlier on the mountain.

But first of all, I am waiting for a refutation of the power of Coriolis. After all, I personally found out about her back in the 8th grade at school. And we were shown it in action. And here you say that this is stupidity.
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