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newbie
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September 20, 2017, 06:46:16 AM
This does make me laugh though. The flat earth theory is based on no true facts what so ever. It's a theory that is laughed at by 99% of the scientific community. I get that its quite an interesting idea but that's all it is.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 20, 2017, 06:38:00 AM
Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

You need to keep making up new shit to make your story workable.  Shit that exists only to back up your lie.

Doesn't that tell you anything?
newbie
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September 20, 2017, 06:20:45 AM
You have to travel in space in order to find the answer to your question. I believe the earth is round, not flat. If it's flat, all of the islands and continents and countries are joined together in flat earth. There would be no core in the middle since it's flat.
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 05:37:26 AM
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.

Yes, I'll accept that Airy did his work meticulously, and got the correct result, but I must answer the same as in the other thread.
Airy's Failure suggests nothing of the sort. Remember that Airy and Bradley were both before "Relativity" Special or General. If we accept Relativity, it makes no difference which is the "moving frame" and which is the "reference frame", which simply means that Airy's failed to measure something that wasn't there in the first place.

In other words failure is exactly what one would have expected.
Now as you well know I am no fan of Miles Mathis[1], but even he wrote that
in The Aberration of Starlight, including analysis of Airy's water-filled telescope, by Miles Mathis Airy's failure was simply what one would expect - earth or stars moving would make no difference!

In fact "Airy's Failure" had a hand in the formulation of Einstein's own theories.

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5095.0

You mad bro?

If your theory has an "aberration" that's a good indication it's wrong.

Not sure at this point if you are trolling or plain retarded.
Still waiting for that trip in boat or plane to the ice wall, nothing yet?
legendary
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September 20, 2017, 05:29:01 AM
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.

Yes, I'll accept that Airy did his work meticulously, and got the correct result, but I must answer the same as in the other thread.
Airy's Failure suggests nothing of the sort. Remember that Airy and Bradley were both before "Relativity" Special or General. If we accept Relativity, it makes no difference which is the "moving frame" and which is the "reference frame", which simply means that Airy's failed to measure something that wasn't there in the first place.

In other words failure is exactly what one would have expected.
Now as you well know I am no fan of Miles Mathis[1], but even he wrote that
in The Aberration of Starlight, including analysis of Airy's water-filled telescope, by Miles Mathis Airy's failure was simply what one would expect - earth or stars moving would make no difference!

In fact "Airy's Failure" had a hand in the formulation of Einstein's own theories.

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5095.0

You mad bro?

If your theory has an "aberration" that's a good indication it's wrong.
newbie
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September 20, 2017, 05:24:51 AM
i wish it was flat.. i want to see the end of the world! an amazing sea, monsters, thunderstorm WOA Shocked
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.

Yes, I'll accept that Airy did his work meticulously, and got the correct result, but I must answer the same as in the other thread.
Airy's Failure suggests nothing of the sort. Remember that Airy and Bradley were both before "Relativity" Special or General. If we accept Relativity, it makes no difference which is the "moving frame" and which is the "reference frame", which simply means that Airy's failed to measure something that wasn't there in the first place.

In other words failure is exactly what one would have expected.
Now as you well know I am no fan of Miles Mathis[1], but even he wrote that
in The Aberration of Starlight, including analysis of Airy's water-filled telescope, by Miles Mathis Airy's failure was simply what one would expect - earth or stars moving would make no difference!

In fact "Airy's Failure" had a hand in the formulation of Einstein's own theories.

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5095.0

You mad bro?
legendary
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September 20, 2017, 05:15:13 AM
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.
sr. member
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September 20, 2017, 05:09:29 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

OH REALLY? You seem to really like made up shit and science fiction. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.

Yeah, I'm ignoring you from now on, keep believing your fairy tail.

Ignoramus?

The Sagnac experiment proves the existance of the aether. With the existance of the aether a proven fact the Michaelson & Morley experiment proves the Earth is motionless.



The Michelson–Morley experiment was performed over the spring and summer of 1887 by Albert A. Michelson and Edward W. Morley at what is now Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, and published in November of the same year.[1] It compared the speed of light in perpendicular directions, in an attempt to detect the relative motion of matter through the stationary luminiferous aether ("aether wind"). The result was negative, in that the expected difference between the speed of light in the direction of movement through the presumed aether, and the speed at right angles, was found not to exist; this result is generally considered to be the first strong evidence against the then-prevalent aether theory, and initiated a line of research that eventually led to special relativity, which rules out a stationary aether.

After all this thought and preparation, the experiment became what has been called the most famous failed experiment in history.[A 13] Instead of providing insight into the properties of the aether, Michelson and Morley's article in the American Journal of Science reported the measurement to be as small as one-fortieth of the expected displacement (Fig. 7), but "since the displacement is proportional to the square of the velocity" they concluded that the measured velocity was "probably less than one-sixth" of the expected velocity of the Earth's motion in orbit and "certainly less than one-fourth."[1] Although this small "velocity" was measured, it was considered far too small to be used as evidence of speed relative to the aether, and it was understood to be within the range of an experimental error that would allow the speed to actually be zero.[A 1] For instance, Michelson wrote about the "decidedly negative result" in a letter to Lord Rayleigh in August 1887:[A 14]

The Experiments on the relative motion of the earth and ether have been completed and the result decidedly negative. The expected deviation of the interference fringes from the zero should have been 0.40 of a fringe – the maximum displacement was 0.02 and the average much less than 0.01 – and then not in the right place. As displacement is proportional to squares of the relative velocities it follows that if the ether does slip past the relative velocity is less than one sixth of the earth’s velocity.

— Albert Abraham Michelson, 1887
Unnecessary... We went through this shit many times before. He won't understand... He is too dumb to understand science, so he picked some expriments to prove his flat earth theory. Even if those are failed experiments, he sticks to them, because he thinks it proves his retarded belief... Just an average FE believer...
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 05:03:15 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

OH REALLY? You seem to really like made up shit and science fiction. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.

Yeah, I'm ignoring you from now on, keep believing your fairy tail.

Ignoramus?

The Sagnac experiment proves the existance of the aether. With the existance of the aether a proven fact the Michaelson & Morley experiment proves the Earth is motionless.



The Michelson–Morley experiment was performed over the spring and summer of 1887 by Albert A. Michelson and Edward W. Morley at what is now Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, and published in November of the same year.[1] It compared the speed of light in perpendicular directions, in an attempt to detect the relative motion of matter through the stationary luminiferous aether ("aether wind"). The result was negative, in that the expected difference between the speed of light in the direction of movement through the presumed aether, and the speed at right angles, was found not to exist; this result is generally considered to be the first strong evidence against the then-prevalent aether theory, and initiated a line of research that eventually led to special relativity, which rules out a stationary aether.

After all this thought and preparation, the experiment became what has been called the most famous failed experiment in history.[A 13] Instead of providing insight into the properties of the aether, Michelson and Morley's article in the American Journal of Science reported the measurement to be as small as one-fortieth of the expected displacement (Fig. 7), but "since the displacement is proportional to the square of the velocity" they concluded that the measured velocity was "probably less than one-sixth" of the expected velocity of the Earth's motion in orbit and "certainly less than one-fourth."[1] Although this small "velocity" was measured, it was considered far too small to be used as evidence of speed relative to the aether, and it was understood to be within the range of an experimental error that would allow the speed to actually be zero.[A 1] For instance, Michelson wrote about the "decidedly negative result" in a letter to Lord Rayleigh in August 1887:[A 14]

The Experiments on the relative motion of the earth and ether have been completed and the result decidedly negative. The expected deviation of the interference fringes from the zero should have been 0.40 of a fringe – the maximum displacement was 0.02 and the average much less than 0.01 – and then not in the right place. As displacement is proportional to squares of the relative velocities it follows that if the ether does slip past the relative velocity is less than one sixth of the earth’s velocity.

— Albert Abraham Michelson, 1887
sr. member
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September 20, 2017, 04:56:57 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

OH REALLY? You seem to really like made up shit and science fiction. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.

Yeah, I'm ignoring you from now on, keep believing your fairy tail.

Ignoramus?

The Sagnac experiment proves the existance of the aether. With the existance of the aether a proven fact the Michaelson & Morley experiment proves the Earth is motionless.


This BS again... All experiments are fake except the failed ones. Great argument.
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 04:54:16 AM
Hahaha the only proof of gravity is two lead balls in a 17th century shed.

and the only proof of aether is a flawed experiment?
legendary
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September 20, 2017, 04:53:08 AM



Hahaha the only proof of gravity is two lead balls in a 17th century shed.
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 04:47:07 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

OH REALLY? You seem to really like made up shit and science fiction. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.

Yeah, I'm ignoring you from now on, keep believing your fairy tail.

The Sagnac experiment proves the existance of the aether. With the existance of the aether a proven fact the Michaelson & Morley experiment proves the Earth is motionless.

Sagnac thought this experiment confirmed the existence of the aether, and he’s partly right. A shift in the interference pattern is exactly what the aether model predicts. Sagnac also thought the experiment disproved relativity, and that’s where he’s wrong. A shift in the pattern is also predicted by special relativity, as Max von Laue predicted two years before Sagnac performed his experiment.

What Sagnac failed to understand is that special relativity applies to frames of reference that are not rotating, so it doesn’t predict that light’s trip around the loop is the same in both directions when the device is rotating. If you were to look at the rotating device from above, you’d see that light that travels in the direction of the rotation actually travels a longer distance because the device is rotating away from it a bit. The light going in the opposite direction makes a shorter trip, since the device rotates into it. So relativity also predicts a shift in the interference pattern.

As a result, the Sagnac experiment is inconclusive, since it agrees with both the aether and relativity models. This happens sometimes, and when it does you need a tie-breaker to distinguish one model from another. In this case there are several such experiments, but one very clear one comes from Einstein’s most famous prediction, E = mc2. If relativity is right, then mass and energy must be connected. If Einstein equation fails, then relativity is decidedly wrong. Of course if that were the case, things like nuclear power wouldn’t work, but since lots of people rely upon nuclear power every day, we can declare relativity the winner.

So the only place you’re likely to find aether these days is in one of those Marvel superhero movies.

What I find interesting about you lunatics is that you seem to think ''aether'' is proved because some guy did an experiment but you never agree with the hundreds of thousands of experiments that prove gravity, seems very strange to me.
legendary
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September 20, 2017, 04:40:43 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

OH REALLY? You seem to really like made up shit and science fiction. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.

Yeah, I'm ignoring you from now on, keep believing your fairy tail.

Ignoramus?

The Sagnac experiment proves the existance of the aether. With the existance of the aether a proven fact the Michaelson & Morley experiment proves the Earth is motionless.

hero member
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September 20, 2017, 04:29:09 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.

OH REALLY? You seem to really like made up shit and science fiction. The concept of aether was used in several theories to explain several natural phenomena, such as the traveling of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that aether permeated all throughout space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in the Michelson–Morley experiment, and this result has been interpreted as meaning that no such luminiferous aether exists.

Yeah, I'm ignoring you from now on, keep believing your fairy tail.
legendary
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September 20, 2017, 04:26:49 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?

Aether is essentially a superfine gas that can penetrate matter, it's made of individual N and S magnetic poles and is the medium that electromagnetic waves propagate through.
hero member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 645
September 20, 2017, 04:12:37 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.

Whats aether and what do you mean it will push on an object, does aether push objects at the same rate no matter their density?
legendary
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Merit: 1038
September 20, 2017, 03:53:08 AM
In the case of a hard vacuum aether will push on an object. Up and down are defined by the electric field between the dome and the ground.
hero member
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September 20, 2017, 03:09:20 AM

Vacuum can be reproduced on Earth. So why objects of same weight but different density fall with same speed? Why do they fall at all? How do they know that they need to fall down not up or left?

Sucks to be retarded, doesn't it?
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