Pages:
Author

Topic: Flat Earth - page 62. (Read 1095196 times)

legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
June 30, 2019, 08:50:13 AM
I believe the Earth is flat because it is flat,
I believe the Earth does not move because it does not move,
I believe the Sun is in motion because it is in motion and,
I believe the lights in sky are lights in the sky because they are lights in the sky.

The man in the small hat says he can weigh the red light in sky with heavy balls in a garden shed.

Well at least the man in the small hat DID an experiment, you on the other hand admitted to just believe what others tell you and we are still waiting for your final calculations. Where are they? Did you realize they were totally wrong hahaha what a fucking liar.

What have I lied about? You're taking the fact I lack a complete understanding of some technical detail as evidence that I'm being dishonest. You're a fucking asshole.

I'm analyzing how the atmospheric plane works as I'm gauging the Sun's distance at the point of maximum refractive magnification. I'm doing this because the Sun needs an object to be measured against; the horizon vanishing line. The horizon is at 90 degrees to the observers eye level thus it is the standard used to measure (with a sextant) the Sun is the measured (with a tape measure) height of the observer and the resolution limit (1 minute) of the eye.

Now without being able to explain and prove how the refractive magnification caused by the atmospheric plane works I can't account for it (i.e. remove it mathematically) while calculating its size from the measured value. This is where I'm currently at in my "calculation".

https://i.imgur.com/zN3zBjL.jpg

But I showed you where you are missing it at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51636476. In fact, using the FE idea with what I showed you in the link, was something you couldn't answer with any known science, even FE science.

You might not be lying when you say that you believe the earth is flat, but if you believe, you are starting to doubt. Personally, I think you are intentionally attempting something far different with your FE thread, like testing to see how many lay people you can dupe.

Most of modern humanity doesn't believe the earth is a globe. They know it's a globe. So, when you say that you believe the earth is flat, you show that you are treating the subject as a religion, not as a scientifically determined fact.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
June 30, 2019, 08:22:11 AM
I believe the Earth is flat because it is flat,
I believe the Earth does not move because it does not move,
I believe the Sun is in motion because it is in motion and,
I believe the lights in sky are lights in the sky because they are lights in the sky.

The man in the small hat says he can weigh the red light in sky with heavy balls in a garden shed.

Well at least the man in the small hat DID an experiment, you on the other hand admitted to just believe what others tell you and we are still waiting for your final calculations. Where are they? Did you realize they were totally wrong hahaha what a fucking liar.

What have I lied about? You're taking the fact I lack a complete understanding of some technical detail as evidence that I'm being dishonest. You're a fucking asshole.

I'm analyzing how the atmospheric plane works as I'm gauging the Sun's distance at the point of maximum refractive magnification. I'm doing this because the Sun needs an object to be measured against; the horizon vanishing line. The horizon is at 90 degrees to the observers eye level thus it is the standard used to measure (with a sextant) the Sun is the measured (with a tape measure) height of the observer and the resolution limit (1 minute) of the eye.

Now without being able to explain and prove how the refractive magnification caused by the atmospheric plane works I can't account for it (i.e. remove it mathematically) while calculating its size from the measured value. This is where I'm currently at in my "calculation".

legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
June 30, 2019, 07:32:17 AM
There are so many things that show that the earth is not flat, that the FE model has been proven to be rubbish thousands of times. Here's another.

The Soviet Superplane That Rattled America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hv2dsVkA38


Cool
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 2
June 30, 2019, 06:35:37 AM
What is this? And why does it have so many pages...

It's a discussion about where we live and those bright objects we see in the sky. I suspect there are so many pages because these are important topics relevant to everybody.

If this discussion is relevant, than i am a Arab Billionaire.
hero member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 645
June 30, 2019, 02:18:14 AM
I believe the Earth is flat because it is flat,
I believe the Earth does not move because it does not move,
I believe the Sun is in motion because it is in motion and,
I believe the lights in sky are lights in the sky because they are lights in the sky.

The man in the small hat says he can weigh the red light in sky with heavy balls in a garden shed.

Well at least the man in the small hat DID an experiment, you on the other hand admitted to just believe what others tell you and we are still waiting for your final calculations. Where are they? Did you realize they were totally wrong hahaha what a fucking liar.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
June 29, 2019, 05:19:45 PM
What is this? And why does it have so many pages...

It's a discussion about where we live and those bright objects we see in the sky. I suspect there are so many pages because these are important topics relevant to everybody.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
June 29, 2019, 05:08:02 PM
Also in Italy they see too far and supposed curvature of a spinning ball earth is nowhere to be found. Earth is flat and stationary, covered by a dome-firmament of God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scgrpmQa0J8

Reality:

https://scontent.flju2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65034172_10156309873766770_4765110896009674752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.flju2-2.fna&oh=ea706e21ad4f2ef28976913873347090&oe=5D835981



You remember the bottomless pit in Revelation, don't you? Revelation 9:2 (KJV):
And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

So, on a flat earth, how deep is the bottomless pit? And if the dragon was cast into the bottomless pit, how far did he fall? Does density explain how the attraction/repulsion that is normally called "gravity" works in an endless, bottomless pit?

In a globe earth, the bottomless pit would go down through the center of the earth. Why? Because at the center of the earth, globe-gravity would be attracting everything equally in every direction. This makes a pit, but there doesn't have to be any bottom. By the time you reach the center of the earth, you stop falling, because you have become weightless. You never splat on the bottom.

In fact, the attraction of gravity as you get closer to the center of the earth does funny things. For example, if you went 1 mile in any direction away from the center, there would be a slight gravitational effect. But it would still be less than it would be on a small asteroid... almost unnoticeable. What this means is that other earthly forces may have made the earth hollow, because of the small amount of gravitational effect at the center. The highest pressure effect on a hollow earth would be somewhere in between the center and the surface.

The earth is hollow, and people are finding it out. That's why the powers that be are using you jokers to promote a flat earth theory. The powers are using the center of the earth for military experimentation. And their leader is the devil, who was cast into the bottomless pit.

Cool

Here we go again with that fairy tale of an invisible imaginary force...

You can't have bottomless pit on a finite spinning ball earth. You are either a complete knucklehead or a low level sellout - aka useful idiot.

https://tbfe.tk/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/cool-768x711.jpg

bonus:
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Bottomless_Pit_3339.jpg


People don't talk about imaginary forces except in science fiction. So, since you support FE, and are talking about imaginary forces, you must be talking about imaginary FE.

You can't have a bottomless pit on a spinning ball earth, or a spinning cube earth, or a spinning shovel earth, or a spinning tornado earth, or any of a countless number of other spinning something earths. Talk about it all day, if you like. It might make you feel important to talk about spinning ... earths, but it doesn't have anything to do with GE or FE.

You can't have a bottomless pit on FE in any easily imaginable way. But you can visualize one on a GE in the way I described.

Cool
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 2
June 29, 2019, 04:13:35 PM
What is this? And why does it have so many pages...
hero member
Activity: 978
Merit: 506
June 29, 2019, 03:40:08 PM
Also in Italy they see too far and supposed curvature of a spinning ball earth is nowhere to be found. Earth is flat and stationary, covered by a dome-firmament of God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scgrpmQa0J8

Reality:

https://scontent.flju2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65034172_10156309873766770_4765110896009674752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.flju2-2.fna&oh=ea706e21ad4f2ef28976913873347090&oe=5D835981



You remember the bottomless pit in Revelation, don't you? Revelation 9:2 (KJV):
And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

So, on a flat earth, how deep is the bottomless pit? And if the dragon was cast into the bottomless pit, how far did he fall? Does density explain how the attraction/repulsion that is normally called "gravity" works in an endless, bottomless pit?

In a globe earth, the bottomless pit would go down through the center of the earth. Why? Because at the center of the earth, globe-gravity would be attracting everything equally in every direction. This makes a pit, but there doesn't have to be any bottom. By the time you reach the center of the earth, you stop falling, because you have become weightless. You never splat on the bottom.

In fact, the attraction of gravity as you get closer to the center of the earth does funny things. For example, if you went 1 mile in any direction away from the center, there would be a slight gravitational effect. But it would still be less than it would be on a small asteroid... almost unnoticeable. What this means is that other earthly forces may have made the earth hollow, because of the small amount of gravitational effect at the center. The highest pressure effect on a hollow earth would be somewhere in between the center and the surface.

The earth is hollow, and people are finding it out. That's why the powers that be are using you jokers to promote a flat earth theory. The powers are using the center of the earth for military experimentation. And their leader is the devil, who was cast into the bottomless pit.

Cool

Here we go again with that fairy tale of an invisible imaginary force...

You can't have bottomless pit on a finite spinning ball earth. You are either a complete knucklehead or a low level sellout - aka useful idiot.



bonus:




legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
June 29, 2019, 12:23:02 PM
Do you honestly believe that we're moving and spinning in multiple directions at thousands of miles per hour?

Have you lost your senses?

Are you stupid?

I don't know if you are talking to me or not, but I will answer your questions as though you were.

1. I don't believe that. I know it. Science has proven that many of the atoms of our bodies vibrate in different directs, all at the same time. Science has also proven that the electrons in our bodies don't all spin around their nuclei in the same direction at the same time. Also, the electrons in us move at many different speeds around the nucleus of the atom, depending on which level they are at, and which element they are made of... some at substantial percentages of the speed of light.

2. Me losing my senses would be a personal problem. I'm not sure that I would want to share that info with you if I had.

3. Solomon tells us in Ecclesiastes 10:3, that:
Even as fools walk along the road, they lack sense and show everyone how stupid they are.
But you have seen my FE answers. So, you would know without asking, if I am stupid or not. Since you prove you don't know by asking the question, you seem to be showing that Solomon is talking about you.

You kinda seem to be off topic in your own thread. Or do you have an explanation of what this has to do with FE?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
June 29, 2019, 09:08:36 AM
Do you honestly believe that we're moving and spinning in multiple directions at thousands of miles per hour?

Have you lost your senses?

Are you stupid?
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
June 29, 2019, 08:11:59 AM
You're hallucinating and psychotically delusional if you think the Earth is moving.

You're hallucinating and psychotically delusional if you think the Earth is at absolute zero.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
June 29, 2019, 08:07:27 AM
..... dickweed.

^^^ You're a massive piece of shit, you know that right? ........ Just fuck off and die already.
....... then fucking prove it you worthless sack of shit. .....

Your constant ad hominem, hissy-fit, temper tantrums that are a hallmark of this ridiculous thread
that used to make me laugh, are boring and predictable now. Give it up dude. They only illustrate
what a childish character you are. Though I suppose I shouldn't expect anything more
from the likes of an FE troll living in Mom's basement.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
June 29, 2019, 08:01:26 AM
You're hallucinating and psychotically delusional if you think the Earth is moving.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
June 29, 2019, 07:57:03 AM
^^^ I'm not combining two models, I'm attempting to make the assumption that Earth is either a globe or flat not a requirement for calculating the distance to the Sun; the entire calculation is based on angular resolution limits thus the globe is completely BTFO.  

The only way refraction is irreverent is if you're only taking a single measurement at 90 degrees, the entire sky plane is the result of refraction and showing/proving this is more important than the results of the distance calculation; we're already on a plain at this point.

It's time to stop staring at the ceiling and pretending we're on merry-go-round ride in a 10^-17 torr vacuum, we're not orbiting a million mile wide thermonuclear bomb. The entire Copernican model is so ridiculous and un-scientific it can be dismissed out-of-hand on face value alone.

You are ATTEMPTING to make the ASSUMPTION that the earth is either a GLOBE or FLAT, simply means that you don't have a clue as to the shape of the earth..

When looking straight up at the sun, refraction is irrelevant because in that direction it causes aberration under only one circumstance... that it is large enough that it covers the sky essentially from horizon to horizon.

So you think you are on a merry-go-round that has a ceiling that you're staring at. No wonder you think the earth is flat. Actually, the Copernican model fits the spinning merry-go-round better the FE model fits it.

You keep shooting yourself in the foot with the things you post. You should stop shooting before you accidentally aim at your head. Why? Because then we would find that not only is the earth a globe, but it is hollow, as well. But you wouldn't ever find anything out again.

I DON'T believe that notbatman doesn't know what he's talking about. I KNOW it.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
June 29, 2019, 07:45:15 AM
Batty's FE proof in a nutshell....

I believe the Earth is flat because it is flat,
I believe the Earth does not move because it does not move,
I believe the Sun is in motion because it is in motion and,
I believe the lights in sky are lights in the sky because they are lights in the sky.

The man in the small hat says he can weigh the red light in sky with heavy balls in a garden shed.

Yes folks, our hero here with the most moronic 775 page thread on bitcointalk (and counting)
will no doubt be winning the Nobel Prize in Flat Earth Retardology soon....
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1003
June 29, 2019, 03:51:36 AM
I believe the Earth is flat because it is flat,
I believe the Earth does not move because it does not move,
I believe the Sun is in motion because it is in motion and,
I believe the lights in sky are lights in the sky because they are lights in the sky.

The man in the small hat says he can weigh the red light in sky with heavy balls in a garden shed.

"Writing when You are drunk doesn't means You speak the truth": the Earth doesn't seems to move, however this is a trivial question.



Best regards.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
June 29, 2019, 03:26:40 AM
I believe the Earth is flat because it is flat,
I believe the Earth does not move because it does not move,
I believe the Sun is in motion because it is in motion and,
I believe the lights in sky are lights in the sky because they are lights in the sky.

The man in the small hat says he can weigh the red light in sky with heavy balls in a garden shed.
hero member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 645
June 29, 2019, 02:57:38 AM
...
Show me the fucking money!

Look at it this way. Find a piece of flat land somewhere, say, Kansas. Now, you will have to prepare this ahead of time.

Pick a spot where you know the sun will be directly overhead, say, at about noon. Since the sun travels in an east-west direction, get somebody to stand 16 nm east of the spot where the sun will be directly overhead, and get another person to stand 16 nm directly west of the spot. Stand them so that if you draw a straight line between the two people, the line would pass through the spot where the sun is directly overhead, and this spot would be right in the middle of the line, kinda like this >>> ·+· . (The two dots are the people. The vertical line shows the center of the horizontal distance the people are apart. The intersect is where the sun is directly overhead.)

If the two people look straight up, they should each be looking directly at opposite edges of the sun. But they aren't. Even transits or telescopes will show that they are still looking at the center of the sun. This means that the sun must be far wider than you suggest, or that there is some contradiction in you calculations somewhere.

Because of the size of the earth, any atmospheric distortion would be too small to notice looking straight up. Perspective isn't included, because the guys are looking directly at the sun, even with the telescopes, not at some width where they need to focus perspectively.

Cool

   I've already considered this scenario, no dice. The Sun is ~32 miles wide and the observers need to be farther than that apart. At that distance+ the question of whether the earth is flat or curves at 8" per mile^2 becomes an issue, and the globalist will start injecting the refraction is bending the light around the globe argument. The globalist (with a small hat) will kick the can so far down the road posing one augment after another for why the Earth is actually bent, that he's able to muddy the water while wasting time and effort and completely shut it down.

After much analysis I've come to realize that the plane where the Sun's light is refracted is well, a plain; a level layer of dense gas. This (the plane) and the linear refractive magnifying effect is why the one minute per nautical mile applies to celestial objects. The fact there's zero refraction at 90 degrees allows for the Sun's true diameter to be measured.

...
Show me the fucking money!

Exactly, you are trying to prove it but havent done so how do you know if you havent proved it yet? Did you just beljeve it or what?

You might want to check the last 773 pages, I'm fairly sure you'll find I've posted some valid reasons on why the Copernican model is a crock of shit.

Even if it was true and you presented valid reasons against the copernical model, you still cant use that as evidence FOR the flat earth. Thats an argument from ignorance. You already admitted to be a liar.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
June 29, 2019, 02:47:11 AM
^^^ I'm not combining two models, I'm attempting to make the assumption that Earth is either a globe or flat not a requirement for calculating the distance to the Sun; the entire calculation is based on angular resolution limits thus the globe is completely BTFO.  

The only way refraction is irreverent is if you're only taking a single measurement at 90 degrees, the entire sky plane is the result of refraction and showing/proving this is more important than the results of the distance calculation; we're already on a plain at this point.

It's time to stop staring at the ceiling and pretending we're on merry-go-round ride in a 10^-17 torr vacuum, we're not orbiting a million mile wide thermonuclear bomb. The entire Copernican model is so ridiculous and un-scientific it can be dismissed out-of-hand on face value alone.
Pages:
Jump to: