Topic: Flat Earth - page 64. (Read 1095196 times)

^^^ The problem with your calc is that it only works this way in one circumstance. If you drop the height of the guy to 5 feet rather than 6, the whole calculation changes, as well as the height and diameter of the sun.

If you give the guy a telescope so that he can see great distance beyond where his simple eye horizon exists, everything changes even more.

If you situate the sun directly overhead, The capability of doing your measurements disappears altogether.

You are missing a whole lot in the way you calculate.

Oh, but that's right. You are simply playing with people. So, I shouldn't be wasting my time with you. But I'll leave this here, for a while, anyway.

^^^ The distance to the sun (my preliminary calculation) is 3068.4 nautical miles and I detail exactly how I measure and calculate this value:

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As you can see I've calculated it based on the distance to the horizon and the sun's elevation angle.


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I  noticed the calculation for Z was missing, it's the standard right angle trig calculation: Z=D*tan(P). I updated the image.

This is obviously a work in progress, I'm still checking it over and I'm going to re-draw the whole graphic a bit differently and hopefully clarify how the calculation is made.

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I've removed the image/calculations due to horrific errors, I must have mixed up my notes.

I don't know these things and I can't measure the distance to the sun or its height or its width. You didn't measure these things either, so you must have figured them out somehow, or somebody must have showed you the reasoning or the evidence or the measurements. All I'm asking is that you share this information so that I can understand how you have come to your conclusions. Saying that I can't use simple trigonometry because you might be lying isn't helpful at all.

I'm a random idiot on the internet, I could be wrong or lying. How do you know that 1 minute = 1 nautical mile applies to the 32 minute apparent diameter of the sun?

I know that in the case of the sun it does but how do you know? Just because I said so is not a valid reason. My point is you need measure the distance to the sun first, then you have a distance to calculate its actual diameter with.

At this point im reconsidering the possibility of notbatman trolling us. He is literally contradicting himself and in the other post he said something like he passed out from calculating too much, sounded pretty trollish.

You have said many times that the sun is 32 nm wide because it is 32 minutes wide and 1 minute is 1 nm. I'm using your numbers. Now you say it isn't 32 nm wide?


A dime is 18 mm wide, so if it is 32 minutes wide, it is 0.018 / 2 / tan(0.533 / 2) = 1.9 meters away.

^^^ This is so humorous. You get someone who essentially agrees with notbatman, and he argues with them about it. How funny.

NO!

You don't know either the actual size or the distance! Hold a dime at arms length and it's size is 32 minuets wide, does that mean it's 3,000 miles away? Fuck no!

In your diagram you label the sun's diameter as 32 nautical miles (nm) how do you know this? How do you know that the 1 nautical mile per 1 minute applies to the 32 minuets you measured the sun at?

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Where does the hose leading into the earth come from?

This theory is very confusing for me however I think about this theory I had the doubt so much how people can live in the flat Earth also if it possible then there is some end is also available in this world that's why it is so much confusion

Sure you can. It is simple trigonometry. Given the either the distance or the size, it is easy to compute the other.


As for calculating the effect of refraction, I meant this: "Given the angle above the horizon and the distance, what is the amount of magnification?"

Quite the misconception, a vacuum is the ABSENT of anything, it doesn't exert any force, and doesn't pull.

Two Principles, Inversion and non-Inversion

1#) A vacuum chamber on earth with compromised Integrity, can implode in on itself, due to air pressure equalization.
2#) A air'd in the container in space with 1 atmospheric pressure/surface with compromised Integrity, can Explode, as positive pressure, and escape outwards.

If the pressure is at 0.2 atmospheric pressure, less outward force. Like the atmosphere around Earth, the higher up you go from the sea, the lower the atmospheric pressure. On Mountains it's lower, go up even higher it's even lower. Thus less outward force.

The Force of gravity is stronger then the outward force of the much lower pressure, hence it doesn't escape into space.

Edit: *Actually some does escape but much slooower due to the less pressure, and replacement is on-par with the loss, thus our planet isn't like mars, bad example: But think of it like this: An hose that inserts air into the beaker, and the vacuum chamber maintains it's vacuum by sucking air out. While air rushes out of the beaker, it still gets replaced at par with the loss, so it stays in the beaker.

However, the scale is much longer for the earth.

Notice how notbatman ignores what I say above^^? All he's doing is playing a game with this entire thread.

Gravity has been tested for decades and it works, every single time, all the predictions done on gravity are accurate. The black hole that was recently "photographed" was also predicted to look that way.

So if I have a 1L beaker that contains 1L of air at standard temperature and pressure, and I place it in a vacuum chamber with a hard vacuum, the force of gravity will keep the air from rising up and escaping the beaker?

Gravity is a funny bitch, does funny things to legs/shoes.


Does it effect everyone? maybe not


A picture says........

Oh, come on. Tell us what you are really doing with this thread.

There probably isn't anyone in the world that believes those things you say... spinning ball, thermonuclear bomb.

Yet you try to make us believe, that you believe, that there are people who believe that way.

You aren't that dumb. You are way too smart to believe that there are people who believe that way. We know it. You know it. Your FE buddies know it. So, why don't you tell us your real purpose in this thread? Or would telling us destroy your purpose?

Rather simple, Gravity but then again you don't believe in gravity  

^^^ You're wandering off-topic and I've been advised not to cast pearls before swine, so I'll just let you wallow in your own crapulence. If you want to prove a pressurized atmosphere can be maintained within a hard vacuum environment without a container be my guest.



Here's Stephen Hawking pictured on Jeffrey Epsteins Island of Sin:

Occam's Razor, the universe as a quantum fluctuation, that at some point in 10^10^10^10 years, however, there is no time before the universe, so the concept of this is rather meaningless. That the right quantum fluctuation created an explosion so large known as the big bang. The asymmetry between anti-matter and matter, "The LHCb data revealed a significant level of asymmetries in those CP-violation-sensitive quantities for the Λb0and Λb0-bar baryon decays, with differences in some cases as large as 20%." as in regards to the Large Hadron Collider. However the preliminary findings are level of 3.3 standard deviations, so about 99.9%+ usually it warrants a 5 standard deviation.

Explains why the result isn't 1-1 or a total of 0, but something other than 0. Hence you get stars, galaxies. Billions of years and trillions of planets to conduct random mixing paves the way for the chance of life. And a documentary shows that mixing a bunch of elements together in a certain fashion and environment can arrive at a pre-state for life. Do this a trillion-trillion times, it becomes much more likely that one time results in the needed outcome for life. From 100 billion possible places on a single planet to 100 billion in a galaxy, to 100 billion galaxies in the universe. So you got 10^11*10^11*10^11, or 10^33 as in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Possible attempts at achieving life.

From there, replication, and variation paves the way to life, and evolution to us. A single-thing as pre-cell replicates a billion times, say 99.9999% dies, you are left with 1000, which are just different enough in variation to survive, and they copy themselves. Some are losing the ability to copy, and others maintaining it, over time, you get variation and change. Where some change and variation is better than others. These better variations take over and continue, ones that find consuming another within their cluster as an energy source is an more optimal method, paves for more complex versions, of them running away from each other, and a form of competition, speed, and shape (Survival of the fittest). Which continues and cointunes, perhaps in size, and cooperation is more optimal, which paves the way to the first simple organisms.

Size, is more optimal, which keeps going on for 100s of millions of years, as it takes a loooooong time to get anywhere. You get simple sex-tiny things and a form of cooperation, in a way to life. Paves to larger, and larger, then eventually fish like life. Life can tend to want to spread around, so one that escaped and went on to land, at a start had that advantage, that the one in the sea didn't. These again, competition, speed, shape, form, eventually intelligence to plan against another became an advantage. To simple creatures, to mammals, to larger faster. Upright, cooperation, and eventually early humans, humans, civilization, and us today.
*I skipped like 99.999999% in between here, but basically the concept.

To say that we are existing in a beginning state of the universe a magical super being, that created this dome around a flat planet, is starting from a top-down approach saying that God created everything. And why specifically this super-being created Flat Earth only and nothing else? Why not square earth, Cube Earth, alternate dimension, etc? Why a complicated metallic dome holographic around a flat plane? And nothing else? And why is your concept right, and no others is?

When bottom-up, from a single point, skipping the need for the convenience and explanation of how everything works. So out of nowhere, this so-called being popped into existence said "Hey" I want to create flat earth, with a dome around it, and it will be populated by a 5 pointed intelligent organism, 1 head, 2 arms, 2 legs, for the lols.

It's the same as if you threw 50 coins on a table at once, and expected all of them to land on the side. It will tend to result in the simplest most common approach. You are the one that is brained washed with all this nonsense.

^^^ You think it's fucking reasonable to believe that we're stuck to the surface of a spinning ball in a vacuum orbiting a million mile wide thermonuclear bomb in an endless virtually empty universe created by nothing exploding for no reason?

The only way anybody could possibly believe any of that shit is if they were indoctrinated and brainwashed from birth.