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legendary
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November 20, 2015, 08:40:23 PM
Recently I saw one video on this topic. since then I've seen at least 20 more like that. This shit would create mass hysteria if it is true. The points that are made by the flat earth movement are actually more viable than those made by scientists. I'd love to see the astrologists face when they find out that they have been looking at the ceiling the hole time.

what is the possibility that this topic will lead to world war 3?

There is zero chance of this leading to some huge conflict.  Flat Earthers can't even agree on every aspect of their own model; they basically just agree the earth is flat, and everything else is kind of just up in the air and doesn't really matter.  Prove any aspect of their beliefs wrong beyond all doubt, and flat earthers will simply ignore it and spout some other flat earth nonsense ad infinitum. The various flat earth models that do exist contradict both themselves and each other in countless ways, and every single thing that can't be explained or reconciled by a flat earth model is reconciled and understood by science in a consistent model of a spherical earth.  Flat earthers never seem to be able to distinguish between proof and imagination (e.g. Flat earthers think that simply making an illustration of how the sun and moon might work wth a flat earth is proof itself, etc.) nor do they understand that their conclusions don't flow from their premises (e.g. you can't freely travel Antarctica as you please, so the earth must be flat, etc.).

Flat earthers live in a bubble where proof doesn't matter, logic doesn't apply, and where their beliefs are reinforced only by other bubble-dwellers, a group consisting of Internet bloggers and religious fanatics with little-to-no understanding of science, mathematics, or logical inference.  Nobody takes them seriously except themselves, and they constitute only a small minority of people.

The end game for flat earthers is already here: terminal ignorance.

You speak in Darwinistic like terms, you don't think those that know we live under an artificially constructed dome have a technological advantage?
legendary
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November 20, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
Recently I saw one video on this topic. since then I've seen at least 20 more like that. This shit would create mass hysteria if it is true. The points that are made by the flat earth movement are actually more viable than those made by scientists. I'd love to see the astrologists face when they find out that they have been looking at the ceiling the hole time.

what is the possibility that this topic will lead to world war 3?

There is zero chance of this leading to some huge conflict.  Flat Earthers can't even agree on every aspect of their own model; they basically just agree the earth is flat, and everything else is kind of just up in the air and doesn't really matter.  Prove any aspect of their beliefs wrong beyond all doubt, and flat earthers will simply ignore it and spout some other flat earth nonsense ad infinitum. The various flat earth models that do exist contradict both themselves and each other in countless ways, and every single thing that can't be explained or reconciled by a flat earth model is reconciled and understood by science in a consistent model of a spherical earth.  Flat earthers never seem to be able to distinguish between proof and imagination (e.g. Flat earthers think that simply making an illustration of how the sun and moon might work wth a flat earth is proof itself, etc.) nor do they understand that their conclusions don't flow from their premises (e.g. you can't freely travel Antarctica as you please, so the earth must be flat, etc.).

Flat earthers live in a bubble where proof doesn't matter, logic doesn't apply, and where their beliefs are reinforced only by other bubble-dwellers, a group consisting of Internet bloggers and religious fanatics with little-to-no understanding of science, mathematics, or logical inference.  Nobody takes them seriously except themselves, and they constitute only a small minority of people.

The end game for flat earthers is already here: terminal ignorance.
sr. member
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In XEM we trust
November 20, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
Recently I saw one video on this topic. since then I've seen at least 20 more like that. This shit would create mass hysteria if it is true. The points that are made by the flat earth movement are actually more viable than those made by scientists. I'd love to see the astrologists face when they find out that they have been looking at the ceiling the hole time.

what is the possibility that this topic will lead to world war 3?
full member
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Yin Yang religion of wisdom, harmony
November 19, 2015, 03:34:59 AM
Not only is the Earth flat, the whole universe is too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle.
We are just one of many in the endless plain in the ocean. The whole thing looks something like this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12700221


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There are Aliens living inside the Earth Grin
All kinds, the deeper the stranger. (from our viewpoint)
member
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November 19, 2015, 02:12:59 AM
Not only is the Earth flat, the whole universe is too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle.


No, you are just living in an universe you thought it is flat. In another universe, the Earth is a round one. Smiley

And there are many other universes some are square.
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 11:35:34 PM
John Lennon explains it best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPqw8z-EakA
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 11:17:44 PM
There's an artificial dome above our heads, hello?
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 11:14:21 PM
The Earth has been flat for 10,000 years, this recent unsubstantiated claim that it's a globe is nonsense. The invention of televised propaganda has everybody convinced with nothing more than movie magic.
hero member
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JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
November 18, 2015, 10:20:37 PM
Not only is the Earth flat, the whole universe is too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle.

Not only that but the brains of the string theorists are. I`m not an expert in physics, but i`m sure that some complicated fantasy and mathematical assuptions do not translate to reality. I like how scientists come up with vague and complex fantasies and then push that through as if they were some facts.

After you got 1 lie, you build another one on it and so on. The whole string theory crumbles, its a house of cards.
hero member
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November 18, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
Not only is the Earth flat, the whole universe is too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle.
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
i am really sorry to say that you all are talking about a foolish topic because many of the sattelites that went around the earth and saw that it has no edges and it is a sphere.

And yet, none of the photos from NASA of the earth show satellites.

And you're insane to think they should.  If the diameter of Earth in a photo is 1000 pixels, a satellite would occupy around one one-thousandth of a pixel for a satellite 40 feet in length (and that's a larger satellite; many satellites are a couple feet long or less.

And that's just speaking about length in pixels.  Taking into account height, you're looking at around one one-millionth of the total area of a pixel (i.e. 1/1000 x 1/1000 = 1/1,000,000).

Sorry that particular photo should be used to point out clouds can form letters. I'm sure that happens all the time right?

Clouds form shapes, yes.  What's your point?

I thought we were talking about satellites.
hero member
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November 18, 2015, 03:25:33 PM
i am really sorry to say that you all are talking about a foolish topic because many of the sattelites that went around the earth and saw that it has no edges and it is a sphere.

And yet, none of the photos from NASA of the earth show satellites.

And you're insane to think they should.  If the diameter of Earth in a photo is 1000 pixels, a satellite would occupy around one one-thousandth of a pixel for a satellite 40 feet in length (and that's a larger satellite; many satellites are a couple feet long or less.

And that's just speaking about length in pixels.  Taking into account height, you're looking at around one one-millionth of the total area of a pixel (i.e. 1/1000 x 1/1000 = 1/1,000,000).

Sorry that particular photo should be used to point out clouds can form letters. I'm sure that happens all the time right?
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 03:14:04 PM
i am really sorry to say that you all are talking about a foolish topic because many of the sattelites that went around the earth and saw that it has no edges and it is a sphere.

And yet, none of the photos from NASA of the earth show satellites.

And you're insane to think they should.  If the diameter of Earth in a photo is 1000 pixels, a satellite would occupy around one one-thousandth of the length of a pixel for a satellite 40 feet in length (and that's a larger satellite; many satellites are a couple feet long or less.

And that's just speaking about length in pixels.  Taking into account height, you're looking at around one one-millionth of the total area of a pixel (i.e. 1/1000 x 1/1000 = 1/1,000,000).
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
November 18, 2015, 01:12:50 PM
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?



Get a solar panel, helium canister, smart phone, a raspberry pi, web cam, micro sd, industrial insulators and a baloon.
Code the raspberry pi or phone to send information back to you. Send it up and see what you get, if you don't get a live feed then there is a big problem!

OR buy yourself a rocket or a plane ticket!
newbie
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November 18, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
There are Aliens living inside the Earth Grin
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 12:41:21 PM
You're assuming there's a physical barrier (earth curvature), but the vanishing points physical limitations are the result of the observers perspective matrix.
Define "perspective matrix".
A camera with no Telephoto Lens has a closer point than one with a TL. One camera will see half a ship on the horizon and one will see 100%. This proves that there's no physical barrier in the case of a ship on the ocean. The same would apply to the sears tower.
Have you ever operated a camera with a telephoto lens? If you had, you would know this is not the case.

Sorry I meant perspective matrix.



I think what I'm trying to say here is that the geometry of the eye/camera (in combination with elevation) defines the distance to the vanishing point and horizon.

note:

The horizon on a flat plane always rises to eye/camera level, it could only do this if it's a function of the eye/camera. The fact the horizon always remains at eye level irrespective of elevation on earth is more proof that it's flat.



Note: No, the horizon doesn't rise to eye level.  Actually, at any height above h=0, the horizon is never at eye level.  You can calculate, measure, and perceive a line of sight above the horizon.  While flying in a jet liner, for example, the horizon would be about 3 degrees below your line of sight.

Just because you look at the horizon doesn't mean it's at eye level in the way that you're suggesting.  You're just...looking at it, and those 3 degrees won't make much of a perceptual difference.
legendary
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
November 18, 2015, 10:55:05 AM
Has any flat earth believer tried to book a tour at Antarctica or would that ruin the fandom? Tourism in Antarctica -although rare- is a thing, I don't get why they keep repeating that treaty myth as if they wouldn't be allowed in if they were coming with an organized group.
I also don't get the "they'll shoot you down with missiles" bit. There are no missile bases in Antarctica. Military activity is prohibited by treaty. The authorities will have strong words with you when you land, the same as if you'd flown anywhere else without proper authorisation - flying a private aircraft is not a matter of "go as you please", contrary to what some people believe. But missiles are out of the question - it's not like you're flying over Area 51.
hero member
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November 18, 2015, 10:23:37 AM
Has any flat earth believer tried to book a tour at Antarctica or would that ruin the fandom? Tourism in Antarctica -although rare- is a thing, I don't get why they keep repeating that treaty myth as if they wouldn't be allowed in if they were coming with an organized group.
hero member
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November 18, 2015, 09:51:34 AM
i am really sorry to say that you all are talking about a foolish topic because many of the sattelites that went around the earth and saw that it has no edges and it is a sphere.

And yet, none of the photos from NASA of the earth show satellites.
newbie
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November 18, 2015, 09:08:28 AM
i am really sorry to say that you all are talking about a foolish topic because many of the sattelites that went around the earth and saw that it has no edges and it is a sphere.
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