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Quote from: notbatman on October 13, 2015, 12:09:30 PM

There's a famous quote about playing chess with a pigeon that comes to mind here.

At a distance you can see both ends of a straight and level tunnel through a mountain. Up close at one end you can't see the other end. After a long journey through the tunnel you begin to see a light at the other end. Looking down the tunnel at the spark of light it appears to be approximately 6'9" off the ground. You can make out a figure standing in the light, just an outline.

You're not going to tell me that the tunnel is fucking curved to explain why the guy at the other end appears 6'9" off the ground are you? Because I'll tell you right now the tunnel is flat and level and the observer standing at a distance can prove it with a photograph of the mountain.

Naw. It's an optical illusion. Try squinting, sometime. If you squint just right, it throws your vision off. Or if you are blindish, it can give you better sight.

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There's a famous quote about playing chess with a pigeon that comes to mind here.

At a distance you can see both ends of a straight and level tunnel through a mountain. Up close at one end you can't see the other end. After a long journey through the tunnel you begin to see a light at the other end. Looking down the tunnel at the spark of light it appears to be approximately 6'9" off the ground. You can make out a figure standing in the light, just an outline.

You're not going to tell me that the tunnel is fucking curved to explain why the guy at the other end appears 6'9" off the ground are you? Because I'll tell you right now the tunnel is flat and level and the observer standing at a distance can prove it with a photograph of the mountain.

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Quote from: notbatman on October 13, 2015, 03:21:57 AM

Quote from: fkvidar on October 13, 2015, 01:13:27 AM

Actually, if you have ever been on the ocean or another large body of water you can see the curvature of the earth. Look out at a boat on the ocean as it moves away from you

As the boat travels away from you it visually moves up towards the vanishing point at the horizon (at eye level). Once it passes the vanishing point the image becomes blocked by the ocean image that rises up to eye level until the boat finally disappears. Physically the boat isn't moving up at all, it's moving forward.

If you look at the horizon it forms a perfectly flat line 360° around you. If you relocate your position so the boat is traveling from right to left or vice-versa and you're at a distance far enough so that the boat is traveling along the horizon you'll notice the boat doesn't fly up off into the sky nor does it dive down into the water.

The line that forms the horizon matches the contour of the ocean and it's perfectly flat. You can see on the ocean an expanse along the horizon that stretches for hundreds of miles and it's flat.

1) A couple pages ago, I did the math showing why we see what we see at the horizon, accounting for both curvature and for the near 0.5 degree arc of light refraction at the horizon. The vanishing point garbage is nonsense, and easily disproved by a simple picture of a sun setting thousands (millions) of miles behind a ship disappearing over the horizon.

2) At any altitude above the ground, the horizon is *never* at eye-level. You can calculate, measure, and observe the horizon below eye-level. I think you're confusing "eye-level" with "looking at the horizon."

3) The horizon is curved at sea-level. You can measure this; it just looks very flat, and because of earth's size, this is what we expect. It's *not*, however, "perfectly flat." Again, we can measure this.

4) The horizon line you see is also not "hundreds of miles." Not even close. We can measure this.

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About 150 years ago a 1/2 ton block of distilled water ice fell out of the sky. Please do not argue with the 1/2 ton block of ice, thank you.

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Ok, the water that is falling is distilled water. The guys who build thing with bricks seem to indicate that our submarine is a gold sphere.

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Quote from: — on October 11, 2015, 12:52:44 PM

Lol, at digging your way to heaven.

so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

Yes I ask this question too, so we got 3000 miles up in the sky, but how much can we dig below before we hit the lower firmament?

I found this video about the bottom firmament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVW_9EVjFE

Any answers please? I`m curious how deep can you dig down before you hit the lower firmament?

Dont mean to be rude, but my post was skipped amongs the trolling here.

Believe or not I want real answers here, but I only see trolls here, so please answer my question related to the lower firmament.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament:

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The firmament is the sky, conceived as a vast solid dome.[1] According to the Genesis creation narrative, God created the firmament to separate the "waters above" the earth from those below.[2] The word is anglicized from Latin firmamentum, which appears in the Vulgate, a late fourth-century Latin translation of the Bible.

Where does the sky start? Doesn't it start at the ground and go upward? The idea that the sky is a solid dome isn't something that means anything like waving your hand through the lower parts of the sky. In other words, the solidity of the dome has meaning other than the air being a solid dome.

Some aspects of aether physics explain this solid dome stuff. Some aspects of parallel universes theory physics explain more.

Sure but look at my video, they found a solid, very dense water below the oceans, that could be the lower firmanent.

Others suggest that the firmament is 12 miles below, just where this borehole is stopped digging:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole

So which one is it then?

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/firmament?s=t:

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firmament
[fur-muh-muh nt]

noun
1. the vault of heaven; sky.

Great. Now we have a sky under water that is denser than the water itself.

At least the round earthers make a bit of sense.

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Quote from: notbatman on October 13, 2015, 03:21:57 AM

Quote from: fkvidar on October 13, 2015, 01:13:27 AM

Actually, if you have ever been on the ocean or another large body of water you can see the curvature of the earth. Look out at a boat on the ocean as it moves away from you

As the boat travels away from you it visually moves up towards the vanishing point at the horizon (at eye level). Once it passes the vanishing point the image becomes blocked by the ocean image that rises up to eye level until the boat finally disappears. Physically the boat isn't moving up at all, it's moving forward.

If you look at the horizon it forms a perfectly flat line 360° around you. If you relocate your position so the boat is traveling from right to left or vice-versa and you're at a distance far enough so that the boat is traveling along the horizon you'll notice the boat doesn't fly up off into the sky nor does it dive down into the water.

The line that forms the horizon matches the contour of the ocean and it's perfectly flat. You can see on the ocean an expanse along the horizon that stretches for hundreds of miles and it's flat.

Not to mention the gaze and the evaporing water, that vapor is creating mirages, or reflecting the image in a weird way, giving the illusion that the boat is under the curvature, while it is not?

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Quote from: — on October 11, 2015, 12:52:44 PM

Lol, at digging your way to heaven.

so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

Yes I ask this question too, so we got 3000 miles up in the sky, but how much can we dig below before we hit the lower firmament?

I found this video about the bottom firmament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVW_9EVjFE

Any answers please? I`m curious how deep can you dig down before you hit the lower firmament?

Dont mean to be rude, but my post was skipped amongs the trolling here.

Believe or not I want real answers here, but I only see trolls here, so please answer my question related to the lower firmament.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament:

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The firmament is the sky, conceived as a vast solid dome.[1] According to the Genesis creation narrative, God created the firmament to separate the "waters above" the earth from those below.[2] The word is anglicized from Latin firmamentum, which appears in the Vulgate, a late fourth-century Latin translation of the Bible.

Where does the sky start? Doesn't it start at the ground and go upward? The idea that the sky is a solid dome isn't something that means anything like waving your hand through the lower parts of the sky. In other words, the solidity of the dome has meaning other than the air being a solid dome.

Some aspects of aether physics explain this solid dome stuff. Some aspects of parallel universes theory physics explain more.

Sure but look at my video, they found a solid, very dense water below the oceans, that could be the lower firmanent.

Others suggest that the firmament is 12 miles below, just where this borehole is stopped digging:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole

So which one is it then?

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Quote from: fkvidar on October 13, 2015, 01:13:27 AM

Actually, if you have ever been on the ocean or another large body of water you can see the curvature of the earth. Look out at a boat on the ocean as it moves away from you

As the boat travels away from you it visually moves up towards the vanishing point at the horizon (at eye level). Once it passes the vanishing point the image becomes blocked by the ocean image that rises up to eye level until the boat finally disappears. Physically the boat isn't moving up at all, it's moving forward.

If you look at the horizon it forms a perfectly flat line 360° around you. If you relocate your position so the boat is traveling from right to left or vice-versa and you're at a distance far enough so that the boat is traveling along the horizon you'll notice the boat doesn't fly up off into the sky nor does it dive down into the water.

The line that forms the horizon matches the contour of the ocean and it's perfectly flat. You can see on the ocean an expanse along the horizon that stretches for hundreds of miles and it's flat.

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Quote from: fkvidar on October 13, 2015, 01:13:27 AM

Actually, if you have ever been on the ocean or another large body of water you can see the curvature of the earth. Look out at a boat on the ocean as it moves away from you

Yep, been in a large swimming pool the other day and the mathematical certified bulge of any water regardless of size. (maths does not care if cup of coffee or lake, canal, ocean) was there. check sig

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Actually, if you have ever been on the ocean or another large body of water you can see the curvature of the earth. Look out at a boat on the ocean as it moves away from you

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Quote from: Christyfrazier on October 11, 2015, 04:21:46 PM

Quote from: — on October 11, 2015, 12:52:44 PM

Lol, at digging your way to heaven.

so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

Yes I ask this question too, so we got 3000 miles up in the sky, but how much can we dig below before we hit the lower firmament?

I found this video about the bottom firmament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVW_9EVjFE

Any answers please? I`m curious how deep can you dig down before you hit the lower firmament?

Dont mean to be rude, but my post was skipped amongs the trolling here.

Believe or not I want real answers here, but I only see trolls here, so please answer my question related to the lower firmament.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament:

Quote

The firmament is the sky, conceived as a vast solid dome.[1] According to the Genesis creation narrative, God created the firmament to separate the "waters above" the earth from those below.[2] The word is anglicized from Latin firmamentum, which appears in the Vulgate, a late fourth-century Latin translation of the Bible.

Where does the sky start? Doesn't it start at the ground and go upward? The idea that the sky is a solid dome isn't something that means anything like waving your hand through the lower parts of the sky. In other words, the solidity of the dome has meaning other than the air being a solid dome.

Some aspects of aether physics explain this solid dome stuff. Some aspects of parallel universes theory physics explain more.

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Quote from: Christyfrazier on October 11, 2015, 04:21:46 PM

Quote from: — on October 11, 2015, 12:52:44 PM

Lol, at digging your way to heaven.

so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

Yes I ask this question too, so we got 3000 miles up in the sky, but how much can we dig below before we hit the lower firmament?

I found this video about the bottom firmament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVW_9EVjFE

Any answers please? I`m curious how deep can you dig down before you hit the lower firmament?

Dont mean to be rude, but my post was skipped amongs the trolling here.

Believe or not I want real answers here, but I only see trolls here, so please answer my question related to the lower firmament.

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on October 12, 2015, 12:17:35 PM

On our flat Earth, when the sun is directly overhead here in Sandwich, IL, which countries around the plane are experiencing nighttime?

It's very basic but gets the job done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRlsvWj8Hc

The sections on perspective and flatness of the horizon are proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

This video is a game changer.

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on October 12, 2015, 12:17:35 PM

On our flat Earth, when the sun is directly overhead here in Sandwich, IL, which countries around the plane are experiencing nighttime?

It's very basic but gets the job done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRlsvWj8Hc

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So we made believe that we turn 1 rpm per day (23h56m) which means standing exactly on the spot on either pol, he needs to move 0 km per hour and on equator over 1600 km per hour to manage the 40000 km circumference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtve-BDflEk

No the guy in the middle (standing right at north pol) clearly does not have the same sensation than the guys on the outer ring on this small circle (the bigger the better)
https://youtu.be/S6Osm7azX6k?list=PLdvZw8819A_88TsVlzbFxvc-LiZ5PXU5V&t=846

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on October 12, 2015, 12:17:35 PM

On our flat Earth, when the sun is directly overhead here in Sandwich, IL, which countries around the plane are experiencing nighttime?

I don't know but I want to visit a city named Sandwich. Do you have tasty sandwiches there?

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on October 12, 2015, 12:17:35 PM

On our flat Earth, when the sun is directly overhead here in Sandwich, IL, which countries around the plane are experiencing nighttime?

There are many applications available to display just that kind of information. Just select the Flat Earth map projection (Azimuthal equidistant) in the options when viewing the output.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection

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On our flat Earth, when the sun is directly overhead here in Sandwich, IL, which countries around the plane are experiencing nighttime?

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Quote from: Vod on April 01, 2015, 02:06:49 AM

Quote from: notbatman on April 01, 2015, 01:58:12 AM

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

Go to a church, ask them what they believe. The truth is usually the opposite.

Now that's just mean. xD

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Quote from: Christyfrazier on October 11, 2015, 04:21:46 PM

Quote from: — on October 11, 2015, 12:52:44 PM

Lol, at digging your way to heaven.

so what happens if we dig down?

do you think the sun is a sphere or flat as well

Yes I ask this question too, so we got 3000 miles up in the sky, but how much can we dig below before we hit the lower firmament?

I found this video about the bottom firmament:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVW_9EVjFE

Any answers please? I`m curious how deep can you dig down before you hit the lower firmament?

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