City has experienced many obstacles due to injured players so that is not Pep's fault and is quite acceptable, and it is impossible for 1 team to always be at the top.
Meanwhile, Real Madrid does not look good when players who have been targeted for a long time come to the club, it could be that it is not Ancelotti's fault, it is just strange that they are now below Barcelona.
Firing both coaches could be an option but it would be better to do it at the end of the season because doing it in the middle of the season might only make it difficult to improve the position.
But what are the chances that both of them will be fired? I think it is very small because for City and Real Madrid, their current coaches are still the best with many titles that have been presented to the club.
I believe both are within reason to lose games, it's not looking that bad, and we could potentially end up with a bad result for both of them in the near term, makes sense to be that bad when you are losing that many players. I believe we are going to get a much better result from both of them when their players return, but until then we are not going to do that much better at all.