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Now the decision has been made where Amorim wants his own team and van Nistelrooy left with the coaching staff he had even though this is quite surprising to me because in the end this condition could actually make Manchester United's condition which has been quite good in the last few matches experience a transition in the Amorim era but when the decision has been made then we just have to give more trust and opportunity to this coach.
It seems a little worrying because actually with the results given by Nestelrooy it has been very good and the hopes of MU supporters believe that Amorim and Nestelrooy can work together to build MU to return to its glory days. But surprisingly after reading the news I am worried that there will be big changes to MU and it will take a long time to adapt.
I mean if Nestelrooy leaves Man United, surely Amorim will try to manage the players in his own way. While Nestelrooy is one of the people who understands MU players the most and if he leaves MU surely something bad could happen.
It is really important that Van Nestelrooy has to leave Manchester United. I know many people thinks that Amorim should have let him stay as part of his coaching crew. But for Amorim to have total control over the players, Ruud needed to go. It's just like having two captains in one ship, it will never work. With the good results that Ruud Van Nestelrooy has recorded in the short time he has been in charge, he will see himself more like a head coach than being assistant to Amorim. So there is likely going to be division in the team. Especially if the results are not going the way fans expected. Many of them will be calling for Ruud to take over.

And for the fact that Amorim and Ruud haven't worked together in the past and they have no history together makes it more complicated to work together. Amorim needed people who he can trust, and it's a good call that he made, by making it clear to Ruud Van Nestelrooy that he is not needed as part of his coaching crew. Maybe in the future Van Nestelrooy will have the  opportunity to manage Manchester United.
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Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

Source:https://x.com/centregoals/status/1856257466247360520

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Roma actually has nothing to lose (and neither does Ten Hag) so this combination could work. Ten Hag is not cut out to coach big clubs but he could be a good fit for Roma. He might have a conflict with Dybala but if he gets rid of him and picks up obedient young players he might get some results.
Ten hag will be Roma coach?
It looks like Roma management should get eye treatment at the moment for not being able to see a better coach for them, so far Roma has a pretty good squad and they only need a good coach to be able to return them to the winning track, but if they choose and recruit Ten Hag as coach of course it is likely that they will be even worse than what we see now, When ten hag got a big financial support from manchester united to build his squad, but he still failed make manchester united better at this time, then roma with bad finances and may not be able to support ten hag with big money and hope they return to improving in the league?
Of course it's just a dream in my opinion, it's better for roma at this time to find the right coach because indeed ten hag is not a good choice for them if they want to develop.
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Pep Guardiola, the current manager of Manchester City, has made it unclear whether he will stay at Manchester City or take charge of the Brazil national team. Of course Brazil has always been the best and strongest team in football but recently their performances have been going well and the fans along with the management think that it is because they don't have a good quality manager that their team is so bad. Following this, the CBF has offered several European top managers to take over their Brazil team, with Pep Guardiola being one of them.

However, there is still no clear information from Pep Guardiola based on which we can say whether he will take charge of Brazil or extend his contract at Manchester City. We may have to wait for more information on this.

It seems that coaches becomes controversial discussion when they fail to win matches in a row. I want to remind us that Guardiola had been with Manchester City since 2016 when things weren't good for them till he made it to win 4 Premier leagues in a row, he was there through the thick and thin times for Manchester City, I don't think h will be foolish to retire as a coach that went from top to bottom and then run away like a chicken, he is good than we all think.

By the way, who is going to leave a Premier League carrier and go settle for national league that is fool of criticisms and banter. Brazil are just looking for the messiah that will help the nation go back to the previous life they were when they were dominating everywhere but it's natural for changes and you can't beat. It's possible that average coach can turn everything around for the club when their time comes like every other teams that has failed and rised again.
No matter how skilled a manager is, he can lose the title in major tournaments and the team under him can perform temporarily poorly, so there is not much chance to feel bad about the manager. We all know about Pep Guardiola and this manager is quite a tactical manager, but this manager has a habit of not taking charge of a team for long periods of time. Before this he has served for several clubs and all the clubs were successful and then he left the club. He has won the Champions League title for Manchester City a long time ago and he has won several Premier League titles with Manchester City, so there is nothing new to achieve for Manchester City, so he will definitely want to take on a new challenge. The Brazil team is now rumored to take on the new challenge, but nothing has been confirmed so far.
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Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

Source:https://x.com/centregoals/status/1856257466247360520

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Roma actually has nothing to lose (and neither does Ten Hag) so this combination could work. Ten Hag is not cut out to coach big clubs but he could be a good fit for Roma. He might have a conflict with Dybala but if he gets rid of him and picks up obedient young players he might get some results.
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Amorim should have accepted Van Nestelrooy as one of his coaching staff or whatever, at least let him be by his side. Van Nestelrooy knows what he has done to create that lost understanding in that team to make the players to be much more flexible than they were when ETH was there, we could see how sharp the guys are now, playing as if they are the ones at the top of the table, to me Van Nestelrooy brought in so much energy to the team to make it stronger and if care is not taken this new coach Amorim will struggle a bit before getting it right, I hope he won't be hyped like they did to ten Heg.

Without or with Nistelrooy at Manchester United, it is still Amorim who has taken over now. Just like when Ten Hag brought him in, every decision is in the hands of the head coach. Indeed, Nistelrooy helped a lot after Ten Hag left Old Trafford. The point is, he has shown his efforts when Manchester United players lost their confidence. After playing various matches with minor results, in 4 matches under Nistelrooy's guidance, 3 of his matches were able to bring them full points. At least, Nistelrooy has contributed to United and at the same time helped the work that will be continued by Amorim. On the other hand, Amorim brought in expert staff who helped him and at the same time maybe Nistelrooy prefers to be the head coach again. Well, we'll see how this new coach handles Manchester United.
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Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

Source:https://x.com/centregoals/status/1856257466247360520

Manchester United gave Erik Ten Hag enough chances. I think Roma should sign a young manager with potential. Also, I don't think Erik Ten Hag will accept Roma's offer. Roma is a more difficult team than Manchester United. Erik Ten Hag failed at Manchester United. If he now adds a second failure to his career, it will raise a lot of questions about him. I think he should rest a little bit...
Left to me, i think Ten Hag could possibly make name for himself in Roma, i don't see Roma being more tougher to coach than Manchester United. In the premier league there are other coaches who are much better than him so that isn't where he should be putting his energy on. With Roma he can compete in the Serie A and shift the team from 12th position to 4th position before the leagues end.

Although the pressure will be too much, and he might be affected with the fear of falling as the third coach who have failed. Honestly, this a good opportunity for him, he should up his game and accept the proposal.
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Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

Source:https://x.com/centregoals/status/1856257466247360520

Manchester United gave Erik Ten Hag enough chances. I think Roma should sign a young manager with potential. Also, I don't think Erik Ten Hag will accept Roma's offer. Roma is a more difficult team than Manchester United. Erik Ten Hag failed at Manchester United. If he now adds a second failure to his career, it will raise a lot of questions about him. I think he should rest a little bit...
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More rumors about Zirkzee leaving Mancehster United in January.
The strikers has a marginal position and fans are not supporting him, and Tiago Motta... knows him.

Adding to all this Manchester wants Danilo and he has now refused a new contract so he will soon.

Also the italians are missing a second striker near Vlahovic since Milik is perbabroken.

So, he can leave in January
Zirkzee has just arrived from Bologna but he will leave again from Manchester United?

Come on guys, I think it's just hoax news that may not have a clear news source, we know if Manchester United sign him from Bologna for a high price, so sell his just be bad business in my opinion, the arrival of Amorim does make we  a lot of questions about the possible changes that exist, but I don't think they will sell Zirkzee at the moment,  Although Zirkzee has not been able to show good performance and consistency at Manchester United, they should give him longer time to prove himself quality, but indeed we cannot deny that maybe Amorim will make a breakthrough in the January transfer market to get the scheme and squad he wants later.

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Manchester United Ex manager Erik Ten Hag is said to be under consideration to become the new manager of AS Roma.

How true is this? I am aware that Roma just recently sacked the second coach of this season and they are looking for their third coach. They are looking for a replacement for Ivan Juric but in the meantime Roberto Mancini is yet to take over. Under consideration the club is looking out for Erik Ten Hag if he would be the new coach to bring revival.

The thing is after all he did in Manchester United, do we think he is qualified to be Roma new manager? Whats your take on this?

Source:https://x.com/centregoals/status/1856257466247360520
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Van Nestelrooy is a good coaching staff for Manchester United and he blend very well with Ten hag because there is no much pressure on him by Ten hag but since Amorim is a very vicious coach that wants to prove to the world that it was only the coaching that made Manchester United that way, so he wouldn't like to entertain any objection or someone who has other motive in mind that's why Van Nestelrooy may not feel relaxed as he was in the time of Ten hag, however I'm not saying his leaving is good but if leaving Manchester United will allow Amorim hire someone that would be more understanding on his way of handling the club is fine and besides I think is even better they allow him to do what he wants.
Now the decision has been made where Amorim wants his own team and van Nistelrooy left with the coaching staff he had even though this is quite surprising to me because in the end this condition could actually make Manchester United's condition which has been quite good in the last few matches experience a transition in the Amorim era but when the decision has been made then we just have to give more trust and opportunity to this coach.
It seems a little worrying because actually with the results given by Nestelrooy it has been very good and the hopes of MU supporters believe that Amorim and Nestelrooy can work together to build MU to return to its glory days. But surprisingly after reading the news I am worried that there will be big changes to MU and it will take a long time to adapt.
I mean if Nestelrooy leaves Man United, surely Amorim will try to manage the players in his own way. While Nestelrooy is one of the people who understands MU players the most and if he leaves MU surely something bad could happen.
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More rumors about Zirkzee leaving Mancehster United in January.
The strikers has a marginal position and fans are not supporting him, and Tiago Motta... knows him.

Adding to all this Manchester wants Danilo and he has now refused a new contract so he will soon.

Also the italians are missing a second striker near Vlahovic since Milik is perbabroken.

So, he can leave in January
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I don't think Ruud Van Nistelrooy would want to be Ruben Amorim's assistant. I think Ruud Van Nistelrooy had a better career as a footballer. Of course, in terms of coaching career, Ruben Amorim has had a better career. Ruud Van Nistelrooy is 48 years old. Ruben Amorim is 39 years old. This might create ego problems. I think Ruud Van Nistelrooy will leave his post or take a more passive role in the team. But there is no doubt that when the time comes, Ruud Van Nistelrooy will be at Manchester United once again.

I also don't believe that Nistelrooy will be an assistant or something like that, most likely if he stays he will be in an administrative position. Amorim is new, and Nistelrooy has already won 3 games with United. Amorim needs to take full control and it's not even a question of ego. The powers of those responsible must always be as clear as possible, without any unclear schemes where one comes and the other seems to leave, but not completely.
There has been no official news from the club about Van Nistelrooy position after Amorim officially took charge of Man United, but if the club can pair the two as coach and assistant, perhaps Man United future will be bright again. So far Van Nistelrooy performance has been very good, he managed to turn things around with positive results, this is very different from when Ten Hag was still in charge, winning was something that was difficult to achieve. Amorim will also need to adapt to the Premier League atmosphere, but his job will be made easier with Van Nistelrooy by his side.
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Van Nestelrooy is a good coaching staff for Manchester United and he blend very well with Ten hag because there is no much pressure on him by Ten hag but since Amorim is a very vicious coach that wants to prove to the world that it was only the coaching that made Manchester United that way, so he wouldn't like to entertain any objection or someone who has other motive in mind that's why Van Nestelrooy may not feel relaxed as he was in the time of Ten hag, however I'm not saying his leaving is good but if leaving Manchester United will allow Amorim hire someone that would be more understanding on his way of handling the club is fine and besides I think is even better they allow him to do what he wants.
Now the decision has been made where Amorim wants his own team and van Nistelrooy left with the coaching staff he had even though this is quite surprising to me because in the end this condition could actually make Manchester United's condition which has been quite good in the last few matches experience a transition in the Amorim era but when the decision has been made then we just have to give more trust and opportunity to this coach.

Hopefully this quick transition will not have a bad impact on Manchester United because if the Amorim era is worse then clearly the decision from Manchester United is once again the wrong decision because they fired a coach with a good record and replaced him with Amorim.

But with the same scheme we just need to see if Amorim can do the same thing and make Manchester United better or vice versa.
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I have to admit that the presence of Ruud Van Nestelrooy will be quite helpful for Amorim in implementing his format in Manchester United. Ruud can provide many important notes about the progress of each player and can continue his positive trend in Amorim hands. So this kind of relationship must be really maintained to maintain stability while adding to the scheme that Amorim will implement.

It will be good if Van Nestelrooy stays back, he has this good managerial ability in him that when they pair together can make Manchester United very great again. Amorim may have a more good record than him as a manager since he’s just an assistant manager all along but this few games he’s coached Manchester United have been great and I wonder why he didn’t make Eric Ten Hag to implement his strategies when he was still around and working with him. I feel Van Nestelrooy can also stand by himself as a manager to coach a team but maybe it’s not just yet time for him to be given such position at Manchester United. He would now either chose to work under Amorim or get another job elsewhere in another team.
Van Nistelrooy has already said goodbye to the team and the entire coaching staff that was still under Ten Hag is also resigning because Amorim brought his entire coaching staff from Sporting.
It seems that at the beginning of the year Cristiano Ronaldo said that Ten Hag should listen to Nistelroi, as a man who knows Manchester United from the inside, knows the players, fans, how the whole game is organized, but then Ten Hag apparently ignored Ronaldo's advice and in general apparently thought that he could cope with a team like Manchester United.
Van Nistelrooy had a great debut, but unfortunately it was only 4 games, which were apparently the last for Nistelrooy for the time being.
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Ruben Amorim is started to working at Manchester United now and he was expected can bringing Manchester United to performing well again and if possible Amorim is expected can able to bringing Manchester United finish at European competitions spots and some of people have realize that one of the weaknesses of Manchester United is they don't have sharp striker and actually before sacked Ten Hag has attempts to solved this problem with bought Joshua Zirkzee but unfortunately Zirkzee is failed to adapt

Some of Manchester United fans want Amorim bought Viktor Gyökeres from Sporting and they thought Gyökeres can solved the weaknesses of Manchester United and just like we all know Gyökeres is on fire at Sporting this season he has scores 23 goals in all competitions and maybe if Manchester United bought him it could be perfect transfer for this team

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Right from the beginning Amorim has already set his plans and Van Nestelrooy is not on it. I think he just want to do things on his own which to me I feel is better but if anything goes wrong he's the only person to take the blame. With Amorim I don't think Man UTD can be like Sporting that's if he intend on bringing some of Sporting players to join UTD and he shouldn't start scouting players from his former club to join Man UTD when the January transfer window opens, if he does that it will damage the growth of the team just like what ETH did.
It was clear from the start that Amorim had his own team and he would prefer to work with them. I think Van Nistelrooy left a very good impression of himself, during his time as head coach of Manchester United he did not lose a single match, they won three matches and drew one match. The players also wanted Van Nistelrooy to stay, but he left, maybe he will return someday. Let's see what results Amorim will have, I think he will first of all want to strengthen the defense of Manchester United.
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Amorim should have accepted Van Nestelrooy as one of his coaching staff or whatever, at least let him be by his side. Van Nestelrooy knows what he has done to create that lost understanding in that team to make the players to be much more flexible than they were when ETH was there, we could see how sharp the guys are now, playing as if they are the ones at the top of the table, to me Van Nestelrooy brought in so much energy to the team to make it stronger and if care is not taken this new coach Amorim will struggle a bit before getting it right, I hope he won't be hyped like they did to ten Heg.
Before the announcement I was expecting Ruud to accompany Amorim but now it has been confirmed that Ruud and 2 other former Erik Ten Hag staff are leaving Manchester United. Amorim and Ruud have had discussions and it is possible that there is a disagreement so Amorim prioritizes his staff. I don't mind if the result is better. Amorim already has a lot of plans in place and Ruud concept is not on his radar.

Right from the beginning Amorim has already set his plans and Van Nestelrooy is not on it. I think he just want to do things on his own which to me I feel is better but if anything goes wrong he's the only person to take the blame. With Amorim I don't think Man UTD can be like Sporting that's if he intend on bringing some of Sporting players to join UTD and he shouldn't start scouting players from his former club to join Man UTD when the January transfer window opens, if he does that it will damage the growth of the team just like what ETH did.
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Manchester United is a big club and has the financial strength to get any club they want. The club doesn't want to gamble with any coach, this might be why they went to a coach like Rúben Amorim who is experienced and has good results. Ruud van Nistelrooy would have been a good assistant for the new coach since he has proved that he has the tactical knowledge to manage a team. Winning three games and drawing one in four games is a worthy statistic.

But the club just confirmed that the Dutch Manchester United Legend has left the club after the arrival of Amorim. Other Erik Ten Hag's backroom staff such as Rene Hake, Jelle ten Rouwelaar, and Pieter Morel have also left the club. Reports have it that Amorin will be adopting 3-4-3 formation for the games against Ipswich Town after the international break and this might be strange to the team       
Give Amorim time and space to carry out his new mission at Man United. So with the departure of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Amorim has more freedom with the aim of Man United to bring him in. Like it or not just follow his new game system now. Regarding assessing whether it is effective or not, of course we have to be a little patient, Rome wasn't built in a day. Amorim wants to do it his own way without the interference of outsiders.
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Amorim should have accepted Van Nestelrooy as one of his coaching staff or whatever, at least let him be by his side. Van Nestelrooy knows what he has done to create that lost understanding in that team to make the players to be much more flexible than they were when ETH was there, we could see how sharp the guys are now, playing as if they are the ones at the top of the table, to me Van Nestelrooy brought in so much energy to the team to make it stronger and if care is not taken this new coach Amorim will struggle a bit before getting it right, I hope he won't be hyped like they did to ten Heg.

Van Nestelrooy is a good coaching staff for Manchester United and he blend very well with Ten hag because there is no much pressure on him by Ten hag but since Amorim is a very vicious coach that wants to prove to the world that it was only the coaching that made Manchester United that way, so he wouldn't like to entertain any objection or someone who has other motive in mind that's why Van Nestelrooy may not feel relaxed as he was in the time of Ten hag, however I'm not saying his leaving is good but if leaving Manchester United will allow Amorim hire someone that would be more understanding on his way of handling the club is fine and besides I think is even better they allow him to do what he wants.
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From the news and rumors circulating and I read it states that Nistelrooy has left the Manchester United team and has lost his position in any form because Ruben Amorin did not use the old people who were previous assistant coach and it was stated that Ruben Amorin brought some of his assistants who also previously worked for Sporting.
Whether or not there will be changes related to the composition of the staff or assistant coach to help Ruben Amorin in the future in leading Manchester United but what is clear is that there have not been many official statements regarding all of this.
If Ten Hag brought his ex trained players to Manchester United, now Amorim want to bring his ex  assistants to Manchester United. It sounds too much, a good coach not require many thing, look at Maresca and Arne Slot, they didn't ask anything.

Before the announcement I was expecting Ruud to accompany Amorim but now it has been confirmed that Ruud and 2 other former Erik Ten Hag staff are leaving Manchester United. Amorim and Ruud have had discussions and it is possible that there is a disagreement so Amorim prioritizes his staff. I don't mind if the result is better. Amorim already has a lot of plans in place and Ruud concept is not on his radar.
Amorim haven't show anything, it's better if he show his performance with Manchester United first and then see whether his assistants or Manchester United's assistants is better. Manchester United gambling here, if they previously lose coach, this time they will lose coach + assistants.
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