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legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1150
I hate security check, I hate withdrawal manual checking ... although it is intended to protect both sides between the customer and company ... at some point you will always feel disappointed/ pissed off waiting.

When the 2FA activated ... instant withdrawal shouldn't be a problem at all , and regarding the ip address changes ... how if you guys implement a security login whenever user logged in with different ip address.. it requires email confirmation or so.

Also to prevent bonus abuser playing - won - can't withdraw cycle .. what if you guys simply block/freeze them before they even play. So you won't bother with such annoying complaints.
Yeah, withdrawals have always been a troubling issue in crypto casinos. Not just here, aside from maybe primedice all places I have ever seen had issues with it because people may abuse it and that is why casinos has to check it and that creates a ton of issues.

You can't just let the people withdraw automatically, that way they can abuse you and you will learn about it waaaay after they abused you, it would take a lot of bitcoins for you to realize that, people could fly under the radar by stealing very tiny amounts but constantly do it and increase it over time. That is why it makes sense for casinos to check every single one of your withdrawals, however that also means people who do nothing wrong will be put into pressure about their withdrawals for no reason at all. It is a very sticky at both ends issue.
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
^  Hah!  Good luck.  I feel really good about my picks this time. 
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 6194
Meh.
My picks of match day 5 for this week's Majestic 7:

Salah
Vardy
Stevens
Abraham
Richarlison
Aubameyang
Haller

This is it!  The 1 BTC winnar!  Lol.  Share your picks!

I'm on this, was very conflicted this week but here's to hoping:

Salah
Rashford
Robinson
Abraham
Richarlison
Aubameyang
Haller

Let's get it!
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
My picks of match day 5 for this week's Majestic 7:

Salah
Vardy
Stevens
Abraham
Richarlison
Aubameyang
Haller

This is it!  The 1 BTC winnar!  Lol.  Share your picks!
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
Hmm it is weird, I'm now facing deposit issues. I deposited 12 hours ago, the transaction has hundreds confirmation already but it is not reflected yet to my balance. Sent email to support 10 hours ago, and talked with live chat 6 hours ago but still not fixed till now. Just sent a private message to David few minutes back hopefully he can help me faster than support email and live support.

Just received a reply from the support says that my deposit has been credited to my account. Just checked my account but nothing reflected to my account.  Angry

EDIT: Fixed eventually after discussing a bit long with support through email and live chat.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 6194
Meh.
Also to prevent bonus abuser playing - won - can't withdraw cycle .. what if you guys simply block/freeze them before they even play. So you won't bother with such annoying complaints.

There always have to be something to trigger such findings, like a withdraw. Otherwise they would have to be scanning accounts 24/7 and that's just not sustainable, as for any service.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1048
Getting close to 24 hours for security check of my small withdrawal. To be honest I'm so confused why my last withdrawal needs security check while I made some other withdrawals (even bigger amount) during the week but all were processed without any security checks. I deposited, played, and requested the withdrawal like what I did on the previous withdrawals so I think there is no needs for security check because I believe there is nothing to be checked. Even if there is something to check, I dont think it will take too much hours. Or maybe it is because of weekend so you guys dont have enough time to do it fast? Hope to get my withdrawal as soon as possible.
I hate security check, I hate withdrawal manual checking ... although it is intended to protect both sides between the customer and company ... at some point you will always feel disappointed/ pissed off waiting.

When the 2FA activated ... instant withdrawal shouldn't be a problem at all , and regarding the ip address changes ... how if you guys implement a security login whenever user logged in with different ip address.. it requires email confirmation or so.

Also to prevent bonus abuser playing - won - can't withdraw cycle .. what if you guys simply block/freeze them before they even play. So you won't bother with such annoying complaints.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
This book only allow me to bet accas of minumum 3 selections with a minumum of 1.40 odd each. I cant place single bets. Why?

Answer me

this is the main limiting method in FJ according to the reviews online
basically when someone is arbitraging , being profitable or beating the starting price a lot of the times this what will happen
the majority of people are reporting that , some other people are reporting getting limited directly to something like 5 mbtc while others are getting the odds dropped insanely

jr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 2
This book only allow me to bet accas of minumum 3 selections with a minumum of 1.40 odd each. I cant place single bets. Why?

Answer me
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1204
www.fortunejack.com
Hello screwbc666,

Regarding having the withdrawal issue: according to the fraud department of FortuneJack, your username is linked to the 2 different accounts within the same wallet.

Here's the screenshot of the first account (can be considered as the main one):



We've given bonuses to the above-mentioned account, valued at 0.0550999 BTC (0.06930861 BTC was completed).


Then, there was the second account created with the username of treeofld13:



0.01308723 BTC as a given bonus was not wagered.


Coming to the 3rd account with the userID of screwbc666:



0.02635448 BTC as bonus was successfully completed.


All of these accounts are linked with the same wallet address, sharing the screenshots showcasing the connection:






jr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 2
This book only allow me to bet accas of minumum 3 selections with a minumum of 1.40 odd each. I cant place single bets. Why?
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
I used to play at Fortunejack with two different devices (Personal Computer and Mobile Phone) and two different internet source (home internet service and regular phone internet service) so it may give different IP addresses, but it should not be a reason for suspecting me as alt account because I used to do it since long time ago and there was no problems at all.

This is not really good choices to make when it comes to use to different ips to gamble. Even though it is the same person that play with different ip but what gambling site see is always different person so I never want to play with different ip. Most site will have the chance to outcome players with this kind of strategy. We should follow this or we will never able to withdraw some big payout from them

As I have said clearly, there was no problem at all since I came to this site and play with different devices. It would be strange if it is now become a problem while it was fine for very long time. AFAIK there is no terms that it is prohibited to play with different devices or even different IP addresses. If users are unable to withdraw just because using different devices so what is the point of having mobile version?
Even if the site judge me as a different person but if it is not connected to other account (s), it should be fine imho because the rule is not to have multi accounts.

Still waiting for my withdrawal, I have contacted support yesterday and they said that they are waiting corresponding information from providers.
Received my withdrawal eventually although it is a bit longer than usual. Thanks
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1018
Not your keys, not your coins!
This is not really good choices to make when it comes to use to different ips to gamble. Even though it is the same person that play with different ip but what gambling site see is always different person so I never want to play with different ip. Most site will have the chance to outcome players with this kind of strategy. We should follow this or we will never able to withdraw some big payout from them
Does it really a big issue?
In third-world nations, people have to use computers in services in Internet hub, so there are so many people use same computers over days. On same computers there are might so many gamblers log in their accounts and bet. This approach looks risky for them, but computers have still been expensive in third-world nations, especially in remote areas.
It is the same if people log in their accounts on public internet hotspots in restaurants, coffee, and so on.
I only think that people will get troubles if they use so many accounts, but if they use only one account per platform, they will be fine, no matter how many IPs they use to log in.

The only serious thing has to be carefully considered is Restricted areas that presented in ToS. If one platform has restricted areas or does not accept VPS, users should not log in their accounts via VPS or in locations that are restricted by that platform.
ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1008
I used to play at Fortunejack with two different devices (Personal Computer and Mobile Phone) and two different internet source (home internet service and regular phone internet service) so it may give different IP addresses, but it should not be a reason for suspecting me as alt account because I used to do it since long time ago and there was no problems at all.

This is not really good choices to make when it comes to use to different ips to gamble. Even though it is the same person that play with different ip but what gambling site see is always different person so I never want to play with different ip. Most site will have the chance to outcome players with this kind of strategy. We should follow this or we will never able to withdraw some big payout from them
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Getting close to 24 hours for security check of my small withdrawal.
Did you order a withdrawal during the weekend? From what you write I think you did so on Saturday. If so, then I would advice you to wait till Monday because the FJ is understaffed on the weekend and they have a slower response on withdrawal requests. If things remain unresolved on Monday you may contact the FortuneJack account here to help you out.

Yes I requested it on Saturday and it is now still pending, I'll contact David here if it is still pending for over 48 hours (around 4 hours to go).

@Bitinity did you use some other IP to sign in your account, because their system would have deducted it as an Alt account then. If you have been using the same IP then you have nothing to worry, as @TheUltraElite rightly said they’re understaffed on weekends you just need to wait patiently till tomorrow.

I used to play at Fortunejack with two different devices (Personal Computer and Mobile Phone) and two different internet source (home internet service and regular phone internet service) so it may give different IP addresses, but it should not be a reason for suspecting me as alt account because I used to do it since long time ago and there was no problems at all.


Well, I won big and did nothing wrong but now they seem to have blocked me on email (despite not responding once or trying to help) and the OP here lied saying we had multiple conversations when thats a complete lie.


I also withdrew on a weekend and at first thought thats why there was a delay but I was wrong.


I hope they pay you and dont ignore you like they are right now on email and here.



Im actually trying to gather as much info as possible to get my winnings.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
Getting close to 24 hours for security check of my small withdrawal.
Did you order a withdrawal during the weekend? From what you write I think you did so on Saturday. If so, then I would advice you to wait till Monday because the FJ is understaffed on the weekend and they have a slower response on withdrawal requests. If things remain unresolved on Monday you may contact the FortuneJack account here to help you out.

Yes I requested it on Saturday and it is now still pending, I'll contact David here if it is still pending for over 48 hours (around 4 hours to go).

@Bitinity did you use some other IP to sign in your account, because their system would have deducted it as an Alt account then. If you have been using the same IP then you have nothing to worry, as @TheUltraElite rightly said they’re understaffed on weekends you just need to wait patiently till tomorrow.

I used to play at Fortunejack with two different devices (Personal Computer and Mobile Phone) and two different internet source (home internet service and regular phone internet service) so it may give different IP addresses, but it should not be a reason for suspecting me as alt account because I used to do it since long time ago and there was no problems at all.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0

Unfortunately, we've discussed your case multiple times and your account appeared to be linked with 2 other FortuneJack users. That's the reason why we cannot accept the withdrawal.

I'm not here to defend the guy and he might be multi accounting indeed
but can you tell me what harm can be caused if he multi accounted ? he used your first deposit bonus as he mentioned but it's not like he will be making money from it
the bonus is -EV and if someone used it for hundreds of times he will still be losing money , I really can't see any harm done by this player unless there is something missing that he is not telling ?

the bonus is -EV and if someone used it for hundreds of times he will still be losing money , I really can't see any harm done by this player unless there is something missing that he is not telling ?
It is EV- but the players tend to take advantage of the bonuses with many accounts so as to abuse that high multipliers on their dice - an example. So the number of time they could bet increases and thus they do have a higher chance of hitting it. When (

it gives them more bets yeah indeed , they can spend more hours wagering I agree as well
but how is this considered abusing ? how can you abuse something that you can't profit from ? if players keep "abusing" this way , FJ will just get richer and that doesn't look like an abuse to me  Huh

if that user was benefiting from the sports welcome bonus then yeah that would be an abuse , but he can't abuse the casino bonus




 
the bonus is -EV and if someone used it for hundreds of times he will still be losing money , I really can't see any harm done by this player unless there is something missing that he is not telling ?
It is EV- but the players tend to take advantage of the bonuses with many accounts so as to abuse that high multipliers on their dice - an example. So the number of time they could bet increases and thus they do have a higher chance of hitting it. When (


I see what SyGambler means, someone with a good amount of money can just make new accounts with the bonus over and over; each time increasing the bet when he/she gets into bonus funds. At a certain point they can get luck with a high bet and win.

It would take a lot of money but I see how it can be abused. However I only made this one account and got lucky only because I went apeshit stupid because I thought the bonus was incredibly hard to play over. But I did it.

I won. You have no idea how I literally jumped around and how I felt. I was beyond ecstatic.

I got the email saying they would need to do a security check and I understood, I won big. They need to protect themselves but I did no wrong so I wasn't worried. I posted here because I was excited and wanted others to know that its a freaking awesome casino.

Then they didnt respond for days nor here. Then I finally got an email saying I was getting screwed over and not getting what I won because they claimed I was multiaccounting to abuse bonuses when I did no such thing.

I emailed back and they never responded, NOT ONCE.

Finally, the OP responded and said he would take care of it. Instead he posts saying we discussed it several times that I abused their bonus/multiaccounted when they never once responded to my emails.

Now the OP wont even help/acknowledge me and email support still has not responded.



I was honestly feeling like I won the lottery (albeit not millions) and was feeling outrageously joyful. Then it went into paranoia. OP responds saying they would clear this up and I went back to the hype.

Then he comes back with a lie and I honestly went into a deepened depression and was filled with anger.


@OP How can you say we discussed anything several times when you guys NEVER responded other then the time you replied saying you would clear this up?

As I said in my email, I LITERALLY started looking forward to tomorrow over and over after coming home from work. Hoping that the withdrawal was finally in.


I didnt abuse anything. I only have this one account. You literally lied and ignore me now.

How the hell do you think I am feeling at this point.

I started looking to see what the F*** I can do to get my winnings. I cant find much other than more people getting ripped over the same things and others you actually fixed.

Please, do not screw me over. Please pay me my rightful winnings..... Sad


You're not the first person they have done like this nor the last. They have a history of pulling stunts like this. File a complaint with their license grantor. Explain to them what FJ has done. I also have the personal contact information of the owners.


I tried searching through a few search engines to see what I could do and found several posts on multiple sites where members faced the same problem and were ignored. Even on askgamblers they seem to get away with simply claiming something without proof and give no chance to users to respond so I am beyond paranoid at this point.

Especially considering the fact that they seem to have blocked me on email when they NEVER ONCE responded.

If theres any information as to where, who and what I can do to get my winnings, please PM me or post publicly.


I am beyond pissed at this point. I still cannot believe I am getting ripped off by them and the OP lying about being in contact with me several times ( i posted a email screeny showing they never actually responded to what I emailed them).


hero member
Activity: 1299
Merit: 502

Unfortunately, we've discussed your case multiple times and your account appeared to be linked with 2 other FortuneJack users. That's the reason why we cannot accept the withdrawal.

I'm not here to defend the guy and he might be multi accounting indeed
but can you tell me what harm can be caused if he multi accounted ? he used your first deposit bonus as he mentioned but it's not like he will be making money from it
the bonus is -EV and if someone used it for hundreds of times he will still be losing money , I really can't see any harm done by this player unless there is something missing that he is not telling ?

the bonus is -EV and if someone used it for hundreds of times he will still be losing money , I really can't see any harm done by this player unless there is something missing that he is not telling ?
It is EV- but the players tend to take advantage of the bonuses with many accounts so as to abuse that high multipliers on their dice - an example. So the number of time they could bet increases and thus they do have a higher chance of hitting it. When (

it gives them more bets yeah indeed , they can spend more hours wagering I agree as well
but how is this considered abusing ? how can you abuse something that you can't profit from ? if players keep "abusing" this way , FJ will just get richer and that doesn't look like an abuse to me  Huh

if that user was benefiting from the sports welcome bonus then yeah that would be an abuse , but he can't abuse the casino bonus




 
the bonus is -EV and if someone used it for hundreds of times he will still be losing money , I really can't see any harm done by this player unless there is something missing that he is not telling ?
It is EV- but the players tend to take advantage of the bonuses with many accounts so as to abuse that high multipliers on their dice - an example. So the number of time they could bet increases and thus they do have a higher chance of hitting it. When (


I see what SyGambler means, someone with a good amount of money can just make new accounts with the bonus over and over; each time increasing the bet when he/she gets into bonus funds. At a certain point they can get luck with a high bet and win.

It would take a lot of money but I see how it can be abused. However I only made this one account and got lucky only because I went apeshit stupid because I thought the bonus was incredibly hard to play over. But I did it.

I won. You have no idea how I literally jumped around and how I felt. I was beyond ecstatic.

I got the email saying they would need to do a security check and I understood, I won big. They need to protect themselves but I did no wrong so I wasn't worried. I posted here because I was excited and wanted others to know that its a freaking awesome casino.

Then they didnt respond for days nor here. Then I finally got an email saying I was getting screwed over and not getting what I won because they claimed I was multiaccounting to abuse bonuses when I did no such thing.

I emailed back and they never responded, NOT ONCE.

Finally, the OP responded and said he would take care of it. Instead he posts saying we discussed it several times that I abused their bonus/multiaccounted when they never once responded to my emails.

Now the OP wont even help/acknowledge me and email support still has not responded.



I was honestly feeling like I won the lottery (albeit not millions) and was feeling outrageously joyful. Then it went into paranoia. OP responds saying they would clear this up and I went back to the hype.

Then he comes back with a lie and I honestly went into a deepened depression and was filled with anger.


@OP How can you say we discussed anything several times when you guys NEVER responded other then the time you replied saying you would clear this up?

As I said in my email, I LITERALLY started looking forward to tomorrow over and over after coming home from work. Hoping that the withdrawal was finally in.


I didnt abuse anything. I only have this one account. You literally lied and ignore me now.

How the hell do you think I am feeling at this point.

I started looking to see what the F*** I can do to get my winnings. I cant find much other than more people getting ripped over the same things and others you actually fixed.

Please, do not screw me over. Please pay me my rightful winnings..... Sad


You're not the first person they have done like this nor the last. They have a history of pulling stunts like this. File a complaint with their license grantor. Explain to them what FJ has done. I also have the personal contact information of the owners.
hero member
Activity: 1299
Merit: 502
LOL, there are some many better casinos out there. Why anyone chooses to deposit at this one is beyond me. As long as people continue to support this semi rogue casino. Nothing will change. Once you stop depositing and they see less cash coming in. They will change their ways and improve their casino. But when you are addicted to gambling you could care less.
jr. member
Activity: 67
Merit: 1
Getting close to 24 hours for security check of my small withdrawal. To be honest I'm so confused why my last withdrawal needs security check while I made some other withdrawals (even bigger amount) during the week but all were processed without any security checks. I deposited, played, and requested the withdrawal like what I did on the previous withdrawals so I think there is no needs for security check because I believe there is nothing to be checked. Even if there is something to check, I dont think it will take too much hours. Or maybe it is because of weekend so you guys dont have enough time to do it fast? Hope to get my withdrawal as soon as possible.

ah i see, now i know why they so slow at weekend..ussually it normal for withdrawal... but today i think it takes more time to withdrawal.

their staff still replying on chat windows, look like just need to wait for it.
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