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@Phil - 4.46 those are some nice numbers man!
Question for ya - for your garage how are you venting? I know you took tdp down to 50-60 but do you do anything as far as exhausting goes?

I only have the 2 suicide vents in my garage - it's getting a bit warm in there


I'm starting to think I should have gone with 208v 30A instead of 2 30A 120v.

Decided to go 120v instead of 208v so I could run my SMT3000's - but I'm starting to think I should have just done 208v

It only gives me 5min of backup power - I'm kinda just using it as a big ass Killa Watt meter lol








legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
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Finally have my "Phil Rig" up and running

2 MSI 1080ti's FE
1 MSI 1070

1742 Sol @ 516 watts @ the kill-a-meter. 1080ti's @ 66C about 650 Sol @ 176W.  1070 is 51C, 405 Sol @ 105W.  Looks about right?

Had troubles loading EBWF on the settings I had for the 1 1080ti, if I lowered the core clock to +100 it booted up, I've inched it up to +175 and I think I will leave it right there to see if it lasts overnight and it doesn't crash.
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@storx  intensity is a cpu setting  so a high intensity and a shit cpu = fucked.  so a 30,29,28,27 for skein needs a sold cpu   if you got a pentium or a celeron set intensity at 24
Can you explain this please? I'm running seven 1080's with Skein on a G4400 (Pentium) and they run just fine..
EDIT: running intensity of 25



and you are under 30,29,28,27

I have found 23 ,24,25  are fairly good.  so since he mentioned    he was freezing  up I was conservative and said 24

In his case he has an oc clocked amd ryzen  which is ?? since I never mined with it.

@ storx you have an overclocked ryzen  try running it stock


as for intensity  i was talking about skein bat file setting  which goes from 15 to 30

I don't use ryzen as I never got any good deals with it.

as for ramp up of difficulty   a crash  happens with skein   and with zec  to me if core on the gpu is high.

Say 255 for a 1080ti  so I drop clock to 240  and restart.

all my cards are around 185 to 240  for core. for both skein and for zec
all my skein bats are at 26 or 27 intensity

@ yslyung  going to load 3.4 and test.

Thanks Phillip, i tried running it on stock clocks on Ryzen 7, seems to still freeze up... i wish there was a way to input different core/memory settings for each algo, the only way i can get Lyra to run on my 1080ti's is to turn intensity down to 8, i was unaware it could go that low.. was told 15 was lowest.. but it starts up and says intensity 8... and its been running for about an hour at this intensity with 0 on core clock.. i am just going to disable it because at the hashrates its giving me the profit is terrible.. just trying to get more coins available to be mined.... sigh

Phillip have you ever used Awesome Miner?
legendary
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@storx  intensity is a cpu setting  so a high intensity and a shit cpu = fucked.  so a 30,29,28,27 for skein needs a sold cpu   if you got a pentium or a celeron set intensity at 24
Can you explain this please? I'm running seven 1080's with Skein on a G4400 (Pentium) and they run just fine..
EDIT: running intensity of 25



and you are under 30,29,28,27

I have found 23 ,24,25  are fairly good.  so since he mentioned    he was freezing  up I was conservative and said 24

In his case he has an oc clocked amd ryzen  which is ?? since I never mined with it.

@ storx you have an overclocked ryzen  try running it stock


as for intensity  i was talking about skein bat file setting  which goes from 15 to 30

I don't use ryzen as I never got any good deals with it.

as for ramp up of difficulty   a crash  happens with skein   and with zec  to me if core on the gpu is high.

Say 255 for a 1080ti  so I drop clock to 240  and restart.

all my cards are around 185 to 240  for core. for both skein and for zec
all my skein bats are at 26 or 27 intensity

@ yslyung  going to load 3.4 and test.
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@yslyung   nicehash zec using ewbf_ 3.3

@storx  intensity is a cpu setting  so a high intensity and a shit cpu = fucked.  so a 30,29,28,27 for skein needsa sold cpu   if you got a pentium or a celeron set intensity at 24

rant time  cpu's are easy to get a solid discounts on eBay from good sellers.
i don't use pentium or celeron I use i3's and i5's

the i5 6400t can be found used for as little as  114 on usa eBay

hhtp://www.ebay.com/itm/SR2BS-Intel-Intel-Core-i5-6400T-Processor-for-Envy-All-in-one-27-P014-Touch-/132220163246?

it works in b150 z170 or b250 z270 boards

I earn 50 cents a day while I mine zec with gpus  I mine xmr with the i5 6400t

It is far better then a pos celeron or a pentium

yeah 114 + 15 for a cpu  cooler  and in 200 days it earns 100 bucks.

back to storx

What about the ramping difficulty?

In regards to the Intensity im slightly confused on that, because im running a Ryzen 7 1700 OC to 4.0/core... when i mine i see at max 8% cpu usage... maybe i need to reduce the cores down to like 3.9 or 3.8 maybe?....

 lower your intensity to 24 and drop the core  by 25
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Mine Mine Mine
https://github.com/JamesSmith2/EthMonitoring/releases

that's a really cool monitoring software & site this guy made, i am in contact with him & he's helping out with improvements.

@evilmonkey, yeah it looks like it's back to normal now, but it still reads slightly under my reported hashrate vs pool.

i did some simple math, even after 3% of NH fees zec @ NH pays a tad more but in longer term if zpool (2% fees) works normal, i think skien pays more, atm i have 12 ti's at skien and 2 at NH to make some comparisons. another 4 to setup soon & a few more on it's way + prolly couple cartons of 1070's.

@OP new version 0.34b. a tad faster is out & you can monitor your zec mining like this :

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@storx  intensity is a cpu setting  so a high intensity and a shit cpu = fucked.  so a 30,29,28,27 for skein needsa sold cpu   if you got a pentium or a celeron set intensity at 24
Can you explain this please? I'm running seven 1080's with Skein on a G4400 (Pentium) and they run just fine..
EDIT: running intensity of 25
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@OP, zpool seems to have issues, it reads only HALF of my mining speed, are you still there ? atm, i just point direct to NH using latest ewbf.



When was the last time you tried it?  I was having issues the last 5 or 6 days.   So I switched over the EWBF and mined ZEC.

Just switched back over to zpool and skein and it looks like its good to go again.

Mined for 18.5 hours @ 1020 and got 0.00389008 BTC or $10.57 US.   So that looks good to  me.  It is actually very very slightly above what I expected so back to skein for now.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
@yslyung   nicehash zec using ewbf_ 3.3

@storx  intensity is a cpu setting  so a high intensity and a shit cpu = fucked.  so a 30,29,28,27 for skein needsa sold cpu   if you got a pentium or a celeron set intensity at 24

rant time  cpu's are easy to get a solid discounts on eBay from good sellers.
i don't use pentium or celeron I use i3's and i5's

the i5 6400t can be found used for as little as  114 on usa eBay

hhtp://www.ebay.com/itm/SR2BS-Intel-Intel-Core-i5-6400T-Processor-for-Envy-All-in-one-27-P014-Touch-/132220163246?

it works in b150 z170 or b250 z270 boards

I earn 50 cents a day while I mine zec with gpus  I mine xmr with the i5 6400t

It is far better then a pos celeron or a pentium

yeah 114 + 15 for a cpu  cooler  and in 200 days it earns 100 bucks.

back to storx

 lower your intensity to 24 and drop the core  by 25
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---- winter*juvia -----
@citronick ...Do you power the pico with the server psu also?

If so, which cable do you use?



Yes.

For cable - solder 2 pins onto pico and terminate 6pins to breakout board.
yslyung does this "hard labor" work for me. I will take a picture later.
My EVGA replacement project and recent GPU farm server PSU kit supplied by yslyung.

Alternatively, the original 12v connector (meant for car power connection) if you buy the picos "as is" at Aliexpress - you can use one of those 2pin connectors that the Baikal Quads use to power their cubes via 6pin PCIE ATX PSU cables. Much more elegant solution but still need to spend money to buy those parts. See pix at http://www.parallelminer.com/product/160watt-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-bypass-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/ -- getting custom kit from yslyung will be much cheaper surely.

In summary, with this pico/serverpsu/bb solution -- you basically can throw away the EVGA PSU.... LOL  Grin

Since we are on a Crypto hardware crunch now..... I wonder if I get a good price for EVGA-1300-G2 used 24x7x365 more than a year old ?

Thanks mate, I should be able to make my own cable. Will give it a go when my new pci-e risers get here and I can set up my server PSU correctly.


See yslyung post below -- close up of the pico with custom cable powered from the server psu and 4pin CPU cable - that's basically all you need. the rig will be much more neater and simplified I think... and now easier to manage airflow and cooling solutions.

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@citronick ...Do you power the pico with the server psu also?

If so, which cable do you use?



Yes.

For cable - solder 2 pins onto pico and terminate 6pins to breakout board.
yslyung does this "hard labor" work for me. I will take a picture later.
My EVGA replacement project and recent GPU farm server PSU kit supplied by yslyung.

Alternatively, the original 12v connector (meant for car power connection) if you buy the picos "as is" at Aliexpress - you can use one of those 2pin connectors that the Baikal Quads use to power their cubes via 6pin PCIE ATX PSU cables. Much more elegant solution but still need to spend money to buy those parts. See pix at http://www.parallelminer.com/product/160watt-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-bypass-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/ -- getting custom kit from yslyung will be much cheaper surely.

In summary, with this pico/serverpsu/bb solution -- you basically can throw away the EVGA PSU.... LOL  Grin

Since we are on a Crypto hardware crunch now..... I wonder if I get a good price for EVGA-1300-G2 used 24x7x365 more than a year old ?

Thanks mate, I should be able to make my own cable. Will give it a go when my new pci-e risers get here and I can set up my server PSU correctly.

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Phillip or maybe someone else,

Could one of yall explain to me the difference between the miner intensity that it starts the miner at vs the difficult level that slowly ramps up... Im trying to get some coins i cant seem to mine stable with my 1080ti's to work... it seems some it all comes down to the core clock being to high and then others they will start off stable, mine for a few minutes and if the difficulty level climbs to high during mining it will lock up at that point only..
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almost forgot about mining , still have a small rig with 4 (old) 7850 , maybe time to start it again , going to need this thread for sure
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really sorry guys, i;ve been EXTREMELY BUSY !!! & many parts are out of stock, i am restocking them. anyways, here are some teasers what i made during my spare time that i could squeeze ,,,



this is a "nicer" version but i dont that much of time to sleeve them, i've also made a small upgrade where the power cable is long so it can be easily plugged on to the breakout board.

@citronick, batch 2 PSU's have landed, i'll have to test them out & will ship your batch 2 goodies to ya.

@ phil, what are you mining now ? with the ti's ?

sorry to spam but i dont even have the time to update my own thread but for sharing purposes, managed to get hold of some ti's & more are on it's way.



some of them in action, try to find this guys called ermm i think nokia 555 or 515 something like that, he made a very nice monitoring program



alot of people have been sending me pm's, really sorry, i'm out of stock, restocking them, breakou board is out of stock too, eta unknown will check on it later. as for picos, i can order more of them, i'm doing it as i type now, same goes to custom pcie cables. here is some work that i do with the picos.



as usual gotta run will update.

@OP, zpool seems to have issues, it reads only HALF of my mining speed, are you still there ? atm, i just point direct to NH using latest ewbf.

legendary
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It's official....have my first miner up and running.

Didn't install all 3 GPUs, made sure I didn't blow up the first one first.

Have one 1080ti FE going to Nicehash w EWBF 0.3.4b

I will learn how to put in pictures later, not sure if I even can right now.

Pushing 700 sol @ 293W at the Kill-A-Meter.  276 sol/W efficiency ( seems low compared to others).

GPU @ 72C

Have settings set on Afterburner---70 TDP, 73C temp limit, +250 Core, -500 Memory, Fan 75%

Appreciate everyone's thoughts and ideas in general.

Time to buy 500 more 1080ti's.
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The 2.76 sol/W.....seems a little low, anything I can do to change that?

2.7 efficiency is usually stock ..... you really should do something about the watts 293w is really bad... waste of energy

Phils has good guides to finetune 1080tis to get low power but good hash ratio, and achieve 3-ish efficiency
The settings are the ones I saw him post but ill double check them

I will look into the power consumption,  will need to get it handled before adding another few cards and setups.

Do you have --pec. At the end of the bat file in ewbf_ 3.4 or 3.3?  It will show you power at the card.

Your number is power at the wall or some how the tdp is not at 70%

Soooooooooooooo what had happened was.......ha, I am a dumba$$.  Didn't realize there's this cool button, the check mark, to actually ACCEPT the settings I have it configured to.  Total rookie mistake.

With that being said, EWBF is showing 673 SOL/s, 169W @ 3.8 Sol/W, Kill-a-Meter is showing 215W.  Card is registering at a cool 56C.  Amazing what happens when you do the settings correctly.

Thanks phil & citronik for the help.  This afternoon after work I will install the other 2 GPUs and see how it goes.


 the bold numbers are good.

 I do better with 4.1 sol/w  and 59% tdp  but  my hash is less

say 150 watts and 615 sols.  but this is intentional  as it is 95f today in NJ  so I lower the tdp to 59%  for heat mangement.

I have reached my heat envelope I can run  4x 1070's and 9x 1080ti's    with 95f outdoor temps  and manage the heat.

 All my units are at 55-60%. This  means  in the cooler months I can bump every one to 70-75%  to boost hash and use that extra heat to warm the house.

also  your card is doing about 169 the entire pc is doing 215 at kwatt meter.    this is about right

here goes an explanation    for the 46 watt difference.  the cpu and the cpu fan  are most of it the ram stick or sticks are more of it.  the hdd or the ssd is even more.  finally if it is in a pc case  more fans. 

Also  the  kwatt meter reflects your psu efficiency ie it shows watts at the ac wall plug.

  and the Ewbf_   reading  may be the reading at the dc end of the psu.  So you are doing well.
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Sorry to bug with some more questions, did a search and couldn't find it----

I am holding steady @ 660-670 SOL/s.

Nicehash is showing a super wide range from 450s-770s and never consistent.  Is this typical?  Does it average out over the day?
figures at the top/front  of your nicehash page are indeed never consistent.

look for Projected daily income at bottom right for most recent hourly average (hover over i )
Ok, will keep an eye on that to see how it works out.

Thanks!
legendary
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Be a bank
Sorry to bug with some more questions, did a search and couldn't find it----

I am holding steady @ 660-670 SOL/s.

Nicehash is showing a super wide range from 450s-770s and never consistent.  Is this typical?  Does it average out over the day?
figures at the top/front  of your nicehash page are indeed never consistent.

look for Projected daily income at bottom right for most recent hourly average (hover over i )
legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
Keep in mind the big 200mm fans - although the CFM is nice - dont push as much air where you want it vs a smaller fan.  if you are pulling air, then I guess it should be good but I prefer when you can actually feel the airflow.  On another note I just bought a vortex s-800 fan to extract hot air out of my garage, if you guys are interested ill let you know how it works out.  It was on sale and I need to keep the noise down.  i'll probably build a box around it anyway.

hey frank - can you send pix of you solution when completed -- I have a similar idea to build some sort of a housing for the 200mm fan to be effective. thanks

Btw, is there a "hang-out-of-window" type blower/fan/exhaust/extractor ?

My warehouse lease doesnt allow me to do any permanent fittings, I have to find a way to increase the airflow out from the warehouse.

I currently have this - see pix below - useful because I can position the other end of that duct to hotspots in the warehouse... however I need to find a overall blower solution to work in tandem with this current blower.



Sure I'll post pics.  give me maybe a week and a half or something.  I have seen "window" exhausts, you should check out restaurant equipment / specialized hardware.  Those do an amazing job but unfortunately for me - they are quite loud and I only have a small window so they dont fit.  The fan you have is really nice but its really loud no ?  I sleep above my garage so I need to keep it down a notch.  For blower type solutions with duct, you can check out vortex fans and similar ones, they are used in grow-ops (lol), some are quite cheap but with plastic inside, or more expensive all metal.  they are noisy, but you can build a box around it.  I think its the best solution.  I think the 8 inch model I ordered might be too powerful but I did get a solid state motor controller from home depot so ill be able to control the fan speed, and hopefully at a lower setting itll be less noisy.  I know there was another thread on this somewhere, I couldnt find it. 
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Sorry to bug with some more questions, did a search and couldn't find it----

I am holding steady @ 660-670 SOL/s.

Nicehash is showing a super wide range from 450s-770s and never consistent.  Is this typical?  Does it average out over the day?
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