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Hmm, thats odd, when i was playing with the idea of mining ETH, i was getting 32-33MH/s on stock settings and +200 on core was pushing it to 35-36Mh/s, but that was before learning about downclocking cards to get better hashrate/watt usage...

I personally started on JAXX Wallet, but the cost to send it somewhere was extremely costly... then i moved to Coinbase and used that for a bit, but since moved over to Poloniex because i was playing with Yiimp for a week basically and they dont have auto-exchange, the transfer fee is extremely cheap imo, but you will get a nasty email if you just start using it and transfer money out directly without doing any trades, since they offer the cheaper transfer fees with profits they earn off the trade platform...... i have never gotten any of these emails in the 3 transfers from poloniex to coinbase so far, but i also did a few trades from dgb to btc... so that may be the difference.. ive been playing with the idea of trading some daily, but the amount of free time i have been having lately and amount of funds i have to trade would be very little at this time imo.... i gotta mine up a balance first lol
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.

How are you pushing it to 35-37?

I can only manage 33 on my auros had a few lockups when trying to overclock etc so I didn't play with that too much.  That is on 100% TDP 33.

Also side question for everyone mining and auto converting to BTC.  Do you point this directly to your desktop wallet or is it acceptable to point it directly to an exchange wallet.  I only get a payout every few days from the various pools I mine and it is costing me fees to transfer it to the exchange wallet as I am trading some of the BTC earned into other coins such as ETH.  Is this acceptable practice to go directly to the exchange wallet?  Or should I contine the way I am and just eat the fees.
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guys...

MSI-Gaming-M5... yet another 7 x PCI slot potential ideal mining mobo
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130873


and 3 x GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11G  

With all this juice

Skein or SIA or ZEC ?

Just noticed this old post... has Citronik or others here built a 6+ GPU rig on this board yet?  If it works will i might pick up 1 or 2, but want to make sure it supports at least 6 GPUs first.  Granted, there are no 4xx or 5xx GPUs even available right now but with currently high prices, i may have to consider going the Nvidia route and mine ZEC.  Even if Vega does release in Aug, I can't imagine a huge supply being readily available right away, so waiting 2-3 months in these market conditions really seems like throwing money away.
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@vg54dett

- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.

- Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?
>> to Dwarfpool.

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

>> Personally I like ethpool. The first GPU farm was 100% on ethpool and solid as rock.

When Dwarfpool upgraded their global nodes, we were getting single digit & incredible pings at 4-5ms (the proxy/stratum server must be in next building!!!)

Our hash submission became very consistent, ultra fast and 0 rejects - that's the basis of of choosing Dwarfpool.

Our trusty backup remains at ethpool and ethermine (3rd backup).

Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.

That is very interesting, do you run everything on air cooling? just trying to research into the idea of going larger.. i just ordered 2 more GTX1080ti's lastnight which will bring my total up to 8 very soon, yet only 4 is only running currently due to mobo to risers issues with the 2nd computer not functioning.... so i ordered another mobo combo to try out that is heavily used by others.. im pretty sure 3 different brand risers are not all bad when tested with 2 different PSU's.... I really want to buy more GPU's, but im hesitant to use my own funds, really would prefer the BTC to pay for them, but im still to new and to small for that right now.. and right now the profits earned are pretty dang amazing.. just scared of what to come in the future.... Sad

I have found multiple mini-warehouse rentals near me, a couple 300sqft units for $300/month and 650sft units for $450/month... the only issue im cautious on to not go forth with this is the pure aspect of keeping things cool.. i have been testing my 2nd rig in a friends garage since my condo detached garage doesnt have power outlets sadly... and HOA will not allow me to have power in it.. and his garage got pretty toasty with just the 2 gpu's during the day with the garage door down here in sunny Florida.. granted GPU temps maintained under 69c, but what happens when i start adding more.. will it hold is my question
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@vg54dett

- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?



Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.

Thanks very much , I will check that for sure.

@vg54dett

- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.


I agree with the holding strategy, nobody should sell ETH for now ...
But I don't understand why do you want to cash out before POS ?
I was thinking that keeping ETHs would be rewarding after POS.
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@vg54dett

- Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

>> my group consist of 5 retired guys each with our own specialties and areas of interests. We pooled a modest amount of retirement money into BTC, ETH and alt-mining (the wives staged a brief protest at end of 2015 when we first started).... we also have a small 2PH BTC farm ~ S9s and Avalon 721s,741s and a 25GHs X11 farm hosted in a very cold country above the USA. Anyways.... we are predicting (with somewhat good trends and analysis) that ETH will hit 1000$ and beyond by end of the year.... so thats the main reason of the 2nd GPU farm of 33 x 6 x RX470 exclusively mining ETH. We intend to partially cashout before first POS ~ 1st quarter 2018???. When Vitalik hinted that he may consider 1/3 to go POS ... POS+POW hybrid.... my group thinks we are on the right track.... who knows what future brings.... but this is our current strategy.

- Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?
>> to Dwarfpool.

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

>> Personally I like ethpool. The first GPU farm was 100% on ethpool and solid as rock.

When Dwarfpool upgraded their global nodes, we were getting single digit & incredible pings at 4-5ms (the proxy/stratum server must be in next building!!!)

Our hash submission became very consistent, ultra fast and 0 rejects - that's the basis of of choosing Dwarfpool.

Our trusty backup remains at ethpool and ethermine (3rd backup).

Suggest you do your ping analysis regularly -- most major pools are actively upgrading their global stratum nodes.
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'The right to privacy matters'
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miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.

Phillip, can you explain more on this? i ask because i have been running air rigs on auto and just locking the temp to adjust to...just trying to get the understanding why you recommend it

Also another question.. how do yall order multiple GPU's? i ordered 2 on ebay from newegg and 2 on newegg and they voided one of the orders with statement "ordered more than 2 per person, voided per policy guidelines....."
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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?

I own none of them.
I know they are very good on warranty service with the few pus's I killed 3 of 30 went dead.   2 on a bad mobo the other was pushed for a few years.

Back to your questions.

the sc
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-248-_-Product

the sc black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98C5DB8718&cm_re=evga_sc_black_1070-_-14-487-265-_-Product

the sc 2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-320-_-Product

the fe or founders

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5ES5360&cm_re=evga_1070-_-14-487-247-_-Product


the prices above are not accurate since the founders is build sold at a crazy high price  by a reseller

they all have a 3 year warranty

they all have a 1594 clock for core except for founders which has 1508

a lower start clock can be helpful if you are in a hot spot and want to clock low.

I like blower style the found is just that.

If I were buying them I would get the founder because of the blower style.  but not at the high price I linked to above.

In your case  do you want quiet ones and will you have a lot of space between with a riser build  get the cheapest 2 fan model.  if one of them has locked fans do not get it .  miners do not want or need or should ever use auto fan settings.
manual is better to mine with.
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@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?


About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS)


Could you explain why willing to sell just beofre POS ?

@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?


About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS) and about 3.2GHs on NH (30% vaulted & expenses and 70% convert to cash & expenses).

About 22 rigs (22x6xRX470) not online yet because I am short of server PSU -- hopefully yslyung gets his inventory soon.

To maximize profits and ROI quickly of 2nd GPU farm, ride the ETH and BTC wave.



-Where do you will point the 2nd 22 rigs farm to ?

-Are you happy with Dwarfpool ? fair payouts ? hashrate reported close to the calculated one ? I'm currently on Ethpool, but maybe time to change...

Thank you for sharing Citronick, it's always a pleasure to read you, as it's a pleasure to read you Phil too !
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Read on Reddit that.... Vitalik is mulling on 1/3 POS so this POW to POS probably will go in phases.

There is hope for ETH mining and 3GB cards for a while more
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on a fence to buy evga 1070s. I can choose between sc, sc black, sc2, FE.
Any suggestion which one I should go with? I searched up a bit and heard you cannot control fan speed on sc2.. Anyone knows if it is true for sc2?
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'The right to privacy matters'
@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?


About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS) and about 3.2GHs on NH (30% vaulted & expenses and 70% convert to cash & expenses).

About 22 rigs (22x6xRX470) not online yet because I am short of server PSU -- hopefully yslyung gets his inventory soon.

To maximize profits and ROI quickly of 2nd GPU farm, ride the ETH and BTC wave.

The 1st farm is fully paid for thanks to ETH - that took nearly 1 full year of ETH mining.

Keep it realistic and practical, all of us spends a lot of money on mining equipment so you need to get them to work 24x7 asap, as stable and consistent as possible.

Moving from Windows to smOS Linux, deploying SRR and switching from ATX PSU to server PSU, were 3 major decisions that simplified mining operations -- and gained savings, less headache, more sleep.... in the long run.

Avoid the 7,8,9 card experiments (I thank my lucky stars on bailing out on Pandaminers) because every downtime is money not realized. Every disruption to hash not being submitted to stratum server, will result in inefficient speed to confirmed hash at poolside so if you have servers that are misbehaving, you need to stabilize them. OC is fun, but I learnt my lesson, undervolting is critically mandatory for mining farms.

The bigger the rigs, the bigger the PSUs, cooling issues and riser nightmares -- keep them simple like Phil's strategy.

Meanwhile, I started a mini NVIDIA farm 14 x Zotac 1070 Minis and 14 x 1080tis (GA-Auros, Zotac, Asus).



Still tweaking here and there with fullzero's NVOC Linux and soon smOS.

Its great to be mining this year and beyond -- I hope it will last loooong time!

Also appreciate all the help and guidance from many experts out there.


my rigs at the solar array  are all designed for uptime.  I don't have prefect access  to the array gear so uptime = king.

My amd rigs  at the array are now all up more then 4 weeks zero issues.
My nvidia rigs less time but that is due to some tweaking and setup time.

this is the solar array's  pc /gpu rigs  about 1225 usd per month.
50 -50 split  means 612.50 for me each month  that  fully covers all my power cost in my garage
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&addr=16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

so this is all profit from my garage
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&addr=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje
as is this all profit from my garage
http://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

and this is just the gpu /pc side   I am running asic  about 18.5 + 30 + 11.5  =  60 th  all 50 - 50  on coins

so 950 usd in btc from asics

and 2000 usd in btc from nicehash

and some zpool  

means 3k+  per month  after power   don't know how long it will last but  it is nice for now.


Not counting 3 gamer/miner rigs sales  for 6600  but profits on them are not a high markup.  Maybe 1000
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@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?


About 1.6GHs at Dwarfpool (keep in vault and sell just before POS) and about 3.2GHs on NH (30% vaulted & expenses and 70% convert to cash & expenses).

About 22 rigs (22x6xRX470) not online yet because I am short of server PSU -- hopefully yslyung gets his inventory soon.

To maximize profits and ROI quickly of 2nd GPU farm, ride the ETH and BTC wave.

The 1st farm is fully paid for thanks to ETH - that took nearly 1 full year of ETH mining.

Keep it realistic and practical, all of us spends a lot of money on mining equipment so you need to get them to work 24x7 asap, as stable and consistent as possible.

Moving from Windows to smOS Linux, deploying SRR and switching from ATX PSU to server PSU, were 3 major decisions that simplified mining operations -- and gained savings, less headache, more sleep.... in the long run.

Avoid the 7,8,9 card experiments (I thank my lucky stars on bailing out on Pandaminers) because every downtime is money not realized. Every disruption to hash not being submitted to stratum server, will result in inefficient speed to confirmed hash at poolside so if you have servers that are misbehaving, you need to stabilize them. OC is fun, but I learnt my lesson, undervolting is critically mandatory for mining farms.

The bigger the rigs, the bigger the PSUs, cooling issues and riser nightmares -- keep them simple like Phil's strategy.

Meanwhile, I started a mini NVIDIA farm 14 x Zotac 1070 Minis and 14 x 1080tis (GA-Auros, Zotac, Asus).

Still tweaking here and there with fullzero's NVOC Linux and soon smOS.

Its great to be mining this year and beyond -- I hope it will last loooong time!

Also appreciate all the help and guidance from many experts out there.
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@Citronick

About the part of your farm mining Eth , do you point everything at NH for BTC ?
Or do you point a part to a pool in order to hold some ETH too ? in that case , what pool do you use nowadays ?
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Newb question.. Can Windows 7 be installed and run on usb 3.0 sticks or are they too slow?

lexar makes a good one

look at the nvos thread  he will mention the model
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Newb question.. Can Windows 7 be installed and run on usb 3.0 sticks or are they too slow?
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Well some are not waiting and for ETH, 1070s and 1050tis are the ones to watch, at the right settings they are as good as the AMD 400/500 series even lower wattage.


Do you mean 1060 and not 1050ti? I have read that the 1060 can push 24MH/s while the 1050ti does 14MH/s mining ETH.

Although 1080ti/1080/1070 for ZEC can hit 400sols upwards because of the high number of cores;

Stock settings on high-end 1080ti already hits 31-32 MHs in Claymore.

Crank up the mem clocks and you get even higher.

I can do 35-37mh on a 1080ti.

If the card has earned enough  then mining it on eth is viable.

Ie you got a 1080ti April 5 and have mined it for 65 days  earning 8 a day after power

say 500  do this is now in effect a 200 dollar card  mining 36mh if you move it to eth.
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