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Getting closer to a 8 card nvidia build! Be my first 8 card rig. Those 2 server psu's, breakout boards and cables were delivered yesterday from Sidehack. The risers they are connected to are more Finsky (6 pin pcie for power). Now just waiting on m.2 to pcie adapters and picopsu to show up. Grin

Happy Happy Happy (drugs kicking in)

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WOOHOO!!! Just back from having screws and plate taken outta my ankle! Hurt like hell but a very happy camper!

Sorry for the OT Phil, Just happy Grin

Checked zpool and the shares are clearing now so gonna shift miner back there from Nicehash and see if the hash is registering correctly now. Really like the setup there (now that a friend explained a couple things about difficulty and how it affects profitability).

Edit: Looks like it is registering hash correctly now! Good job Zpool guys... appreciate it

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Quote from: VyprBTC on June 06, 2017, 08:36:01 AM

Having issues w/zpool too - my hashrates were showing like 1/2 what they were supposed to be - seems it is "fixed" now but who knows wtf.

Question I'm not sure but when I try to adjust my virtual memory I can't adjust it more that my physical memory

do you have a small ssd or hdd?

that could keep the memory capped.

I use 128 gb sad's so I am pretty good.

at the moment I think pool is okay.

I have ½ gear at nicehash and ½ gear at zpool

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Having issues w/zpool too - my hashrates were showing like 1/2 what they were supposed to be - seems it is "fixed" now but who knows wtf.

Question I'm not sure but when I try to adjust my virtual memory I can't adjust it more that my physical memory

bentcrypto

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Thanks guys...will clock the cards down and increase pagefile and see if it fixes it. Weird thing is, it will run for days and then all of a sudden just disappears. Pretty sure I am already at 23 or 24 intensity.

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Quote from: bentcrypto on June 06, 2017, 07:41:57 AM

Yes I am having issues with Z-pool Today too Phil.

Also having issues with CCminer shutting down by itself. It just completely disappears and I have to restart it again manually. This is on multiple computers, Win 10 and Win 7. I have tried running multiple instances to but it shuts them both down.

Anyone else have this issue?

Virtual memory too low?
I am at 25GB commit charge running four cards.
For ccminer reccommended is at least 30GB virtual memory.

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Quote from: bentcrypto on June 06, 2017, 07:41:57 AM

Yes I am having issues with Z-pool Today too Phil.

Also having issues with CCminer shutting down by itself. It just completely disappears and I have to restart it again manually. This is on multiple computers, Win 10 and Win 7. I have tried running multiple instances to but it shuts them both down.

Anyone else have this issue?

The shutdown is due to over clocks

what are your settings in msi afterburner.

I have found

70% tdp
+200 core
-200 memory
75% fan

is good but not every cards likes the +200 core
I have also found intensity of 24 in bat file is more stable

bentcrypto

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Yes I am having issues with Z-pool Today too Phil.

Also having issues with CCminer shutting down by itself. It just completely disappears and I have to restart it again manually. This is on multiple computers, Win 10 and Win 7. I have tried running multiple instances to but it shuts them both down.

Anyone else have this issue?

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Quote from: flminer on June 06, 2017, 04:02:49 AM

Have a little confusion with the difference in actual hashrate and zpool hashrate....a little I understand, but this is crazy. Can anyone explaint this so it makes sense?

http://imgur.com/a/vjoFk

http://imgur.com/a/XRFt7

http://imgur.com/a/tXRQj

Also not understanding the time it takes to convert to btc. Seems a lot longer than when I first started mining on zpool.
[/img] http://imgur.com/a/49W8n [/img] http://imgur.com/a/49W8n

Okay the pool is having issues today.

here is a 2 card 1070 galax katana build with low clocks as it is not that accessible to me . it does 880 to 1100
It has been steady. Noye it reads 0 miners but I am getting credit for the hash

but my in house is all wrong I should do 9900 to 11000 or 9.9 to 11.0
way too low about 1/2

flminer

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Have a little confusion with the difference in actual hashrate and zpool hashrate....a little I understand, but this is crazy. Can anyone explaint this so it makes sense?

http://imgur.com/a/vjoFk

http://imgur.com/a/XRFt7

http://imgur.com/a/tXRQj

Also not understanding the time it takes to convert to btc. Seems a lot longer than when I first started mining on zpool.
[/img] http://imgur.com/a/49W8n [/img] http://imgur.com/a/49W8n

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 05, 2017, 06:56:17 PM

@ vg54dett I had issues like that and went all gigabyte/biostar those issuse do not happen..

I think asus and asrock do it but not gigabyte or biostar

Any idea about how to prevent this without replacing mobos ?
I had it on Gigabyte , MSI and Asus..

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Quote from: Storx on June 06, 2017, 02:57:48 AM

Quote from: VyprBTC on June 06, 2017, 02:33:46 AM

Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 08:56:52 PM

Are you mounting all your hardware on a wood board only? i was trying to think of ideas to build mining rigs in the future. I was talking to my parents about my mining efforts Sunday over our weekly breakfast meetup.. they told i could put one in the spare bedroom if its not going to be noisy or leave wires dangling all over.. so i was thinking of buying super cheap oversized atx cases to build them in... like my old Haf X case on my old gaming rig has room for like 6 gpus honestly like this one... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147227&ignorebbr=1 , it can support 2 PSUs and about 5 GPU's easily for under $70

I just bought this case to play with today and I'm actually really liking it:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133317&Tpk=N82E16811133317

I really love that case to man, but after looking into that case i read multiple threads of people complaining about the first 2-3 slots being unusable really, because anything outside of maybe a thin extender card could not fit, because it would hit the motherboard.. also many motherboards now have crazy protrusions in the area of the slots.. so a few builds they were only able to use the last 4 slots to clear obstacles on the motherboard.... this is why that case never became popular and kept its value, heck it was a $350 case when it was released...

I guess I lucked out because the cards went in like butter

OMG WTF... this case was $350?!? No way I would pay that, the only reason I actually picked it up was because it was $99 at the store I went to, I said eh, what the hell, 8 expansion slots. My last 3 motherboards have been sitting on cardboard because I only had 10 cases and didn't want to buy any more since I'm probably going to move to rise builds instead to help out with density

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Quote from: VyprBTC on June 06, 2017, 02:33:46 AM

Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 08:56:52 PM

Are you mounting all your hardware on a wood board only? i was trying to think of ideas to build mining rigs in the future. I was talking to my parents about my mining efforts Sunday over our weekly breakfast meetup.. they told i could put one in the spare bedroom if its not going to be noisy or leave wires dangling all over.. so i was thinking of buying super cheap oversized atx cases to build them in... like my old Haf X case on my old gaming rig has room for like 6 gpus honestly like this one... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147227&ignorebbr=1 , it can support 2 PSUs and about 5 GPU's easily for under $70

I just bought this case to play with today and I'm actually really liking it:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133317&Tpk=N82E16811133317

I really love that case to man, but after looking into that case i read multiple threads of people complaining about the first 2-3 slots being unusable really, because anything outside of maybe a thin extender card could not fit, because it would hit the motherboard.. also many motherboards now have crazy protrusions in the area of the slots.. so a few builds they were only able to use the last 4 slots to clear obstacles on the motherboard.... this is why that case never became popular and kept its value, heck it was a $350 case when it was released...

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Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 08:56:52 PM

Are you mounting all your hardware on a wood board only? i was trying to think of ideas to build mining rigs in the future. I was talking to my parents about my mining efforts Sunday over our weekly breakfast meetup.. they told i could put one in the spare bedroom if its not going to be noisy or leave wires dangling all over.. so i was thinking of buying super cheap oversized atx cases to build them in... like my old Haf X case on my old gaming rig has room for like 6 gpus honestly like this one... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147227&ignorebbr=1 , it can support 2 PSUs and about 5 GPU's easily for under $70

I just bought this case to play with today and I'm actually really liking it:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133317&Tpk=N82E16811133317

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Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 11:16:07 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 05, 2017, 10:22:15 PM

Quote from: jimmykl on June 05, 2017, 09:23:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback Phil

All going well I'm aiming for 3-4 rigs. Probably using nvoc once it has monitoring added.

I might go for the G1 cards since I'm not limited by space.

Out of interest what are your main drawcards for the mobo direct 2x1080ti/1x1070 rigs? Less complex with no risers? Smaller/cheaper PSUs? Best watts/hash? All of the above?!

simple here is the older rx 480 8gb msi gamer build

used six 4 card rigs = 24 cards = 7200 sols for zec at 3600 watts

new build same space.

six 3 card rigs = 18 cards = 10200 sols for zec at 2600 watts for summer
then in the same space by adding 1 riser per rig
six 4 card rigs = 24 cards = 14400 sols for zec at 3800 watts for winter.

three card all sold = super stable
four card rigs = stable
blower for all but the 1 itx 1070 = cooler

see older build below.

https://i.imgur.com/4kHmTTI.jpg

Phillip, does your card temps suffer with them all cramped up that tight with minimal space for the fans to move air? I would think atleast hanging them with the fans facing outwards would be a better option.. like build a small box without lid... mount the motherboard on the back (bottom of the box), then cut slots so you can hang the cards from the top (side of box) in rows of 2... so you have room for them to move air and the heat can be pushed out the top of the box....

Those Msi rx 480 8gb ran about six months I sold all on site and they are still running.

I did not run them hard . They were not that hot.

I still use the biostar motherboards that are in the photo. The key to mining is cruise control vs. pedal to the metal .

If I go to Atlantic city with my Kia Forte and drive at 105 mph I may get to AC fast but sooner or later accidents
Breakdowns tickets will cost me.

If I set my car on cruise control for 62 mph I will get there in 85 minute.

Most likely never wreck the car get a ticket or break down.

The late great David Bowie has a song with the line " wam bam thank you mam"

That is not my method of attack.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 05, 2017, 10:22:15 PM

Quote from: jimmykl on June 05, 2017, 09:23:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback Phil

All going well I'm aiming for 3-4 rigs. Probably using nvoc once it has monitoring added.

I might go for the G1 cards since I'm not limited by space.

Out of interest what are your main drawcards for the mobo direct 2x1080ti/1x1070 rigs? Less complex with no risers? Smaller/cheaper PSUs? Best watts/hash? All of the above?!

simple here is the older rx 480 8gb msi gamer build

used six 4 card rigs = 24 cards = 7200 sols for zec at 3600 watts

new build same space.

six 3 card rigs = 18 cards = 10200 sols for zec at 2600 watts for summer
then in the same space by adding 1 riser per rig
six 4 card rigs = 24 cards = 14400 sols for zec at 3800 watts for winter.

three card all sold = super stable
four card rigs = stable
blower for all but the 1 itx 1070 = cooler

see older build below.

https://i.imgur.com/4kHmTTI.jpg

Phillip, does your card temps suffer with them all cramped up that tight with minimal space for the fans to move air? I would think atleast hanging them with the fans facing outwards would be a better option.. like build a small box without lid... mount the motherboard on the back (bottom of the box), then cut slots so you can hang the cards from the top (side of box) in rows of 2... so you have room for them to move air and the heat can be pushed out the top of the box....

What about using something like this and just extending the actual pci express port instead of using the powered risers? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4SR1WT7572&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Accessories+-+Cable+Management-_-9SIA4SR1WT7572&gclid=CjwKEAjwgtTJBRDRmd6ZtLrGyxwSJAA7Fy-hsEQ2C9MBbnNx7wmitSjxlGtcj18CWVhTA3aTLDfPxBoCbuHw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Quote from: LoneRangir on June 05, 2017, 09:58:57 PM

Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 09:52:10 PM

Quote from: LoneRangir on June 05, 2017, 09:14:19 PM

Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 08:56:52 PM

Are you mounting all your hardware on a wood board only? i was trying to think of ideas to build mining rigs in the future. I was talking to my parents about my mining efforts Sunday over our weekly breakfast meetup.. they told i could put one in the spare bedroom if its not going to be noisy or leave wires dangling all over.. so i was thinking of buying super cheap oversized atx cases to build them in... like my old Haf X case on my old gaming rig has room for like 6 gpus honestly like this one... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147227&ignorebbr=1 , it can support 2 PSUs and about 5 GPU's easily for under $70

I'm looking for a case. How are you going to fit 5 cards in that case? Sounds interesting.

IDK honestly i was just going over what they say in the description.. says support for 2 psu and 5 pci access...
The thing is, you can probably build smaller 3 card units for roughly the same as one larger 6 gpu unit.. most people seem to build or buy the open cases and those are running around $200 a pop.....
the reason i state this is this, most motherboards that support 6 gpu's are very costly... the ones i seem to find IN STOCK are around $180-200 each while you can get the more budget model motherboards with 2 full size x16/x8 slots and usually 1 or 2 x1 slots for $60-150... then there is the issue of purchasing risers for all those and a larger PSU to support that.. most decent 1000+ psu's are in the mid $200+ you can get a platinum 850 and less PSU on sale a lot of times for $70-100..... so you save at that point also...

So overall it seems you could build 2, 3-4 card cheat full atx builds for the same price as a single 6 gpu setup.... am i wrong to think this?

I think you're right on par. I know there are plenty of posts on these forums on how to make a 6+ card rig. I've never had any luck. Any time I got more than 4 or 5, it's nothing but problems. I'm with Phil, I stick to 3 or 4 card builds.

With dual-wide cards, that case will support 4 cards WITHOUT backplates. I've had my eye on it for a while. I was curious how you were going to cram 5 cards in there. Assuming you're not using the single-wide Katanas that Phil found, I think you'll be capped at 4.

Considering how expensive +1000W PSUs are, I think 750W/850W 4-card builds are the sweet-spot.

Exactly... i was thinking of just doing 3 card GTX 1080ti rigs.. I should be able to get 3 cards, mobo and cpu all powered on a 700/750watt psu inside a cheap full atx case... granted mounting all that equipment on slabs of wood seems very cheap.. i just dont like the look of open rigs.. idk if the cooling is more of benefit with the open design.. just feel like its to messy... especially if my parents are going to let me sit a rig at their house lol... i would def need that in a case and neatly tucked away in a corner

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Quote from: jimmykl on June 05, 2017, 09:23:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback Phil

All going well I'm aiming for 3-4 rigs. Probably using nvoc once it has monitoring added.

I might go for the G1 cards since I'm not limited by space.

Out of interest what are your main drawcards for the mobo direct 2x1080ti/1x1070 rigs? Less complex with no risers? Smaller/cheaper PSUs? Best watts/hash? All of the above?!

simple here is the older rx 480 8gb msi gamer build

used six 4 card rigs = 24 cards = 7200 sols for zec at 3600 watts

new build same space.

six 3 card rigs = 18 cards = 10200 sols for zec at 2600 watts for summer
then in the same space by adding 1 riser per rig
six 4 card rigs = 24 cards = 14400 sols for zec at 3800 watts for winter.

three card all sold = super stable
four card rigs = stable
blower for all but the 1 itx 1070 = cooler

see older build below.

https://i.imgur.com/4kHmTTI.jpg

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All this rig talk has got me thinking . .

Building a gaming computer with 2x 1080 TI -- possible? If so directions / advice? I've never built a gaming computer and I'm still learning rig building so I feel like I fell into the deep end xD

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Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 09:52:10 PM

Quote from: LoneRangir on June 05, 2017, 09:14:19 PM

Quote from: Storx on June 05, 2017, 08:56:52 PM

Are you mounting all your hardware on a wood board only? i was trying to think of ideas to build mining rigs in the future. I was talking to my parents about my mining efforts Sunday over our weekly breakfast meetup.. they told i could put one in the spare bedroom if its not going to be noisy or leave wires dangling all over.. so i was thinking of buying super cheap oversized atx cases to build them in... like my old Haf X case on my old gaming rig has room for like 6 gpus honestly like this one... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147227&ignorebbr=1 , it can support 2 PSUs and about 5 GPU's easily for under $70

I'm looking for a case. How are you going to fit 5 cards in that case? Sounds interesting.

IDK honestly i was just going over what they say in the description.. says support for 2 psu and 5 pci access...
The thing is, you can probably build smaller 3 card units for roughly the same as one larger 6 gpu unit.. most people seem to build or buy the open cases and those are running around $200 a pop.....
the reason i state this is this, most motherboards that support 6 gpu's are very costly... the ones i seem to find IN STOCK are around $180-200 each while you can get the more budget model motherboards with 2 full size x16/x8 slots and usually 1 or 2 x1 slots for $60-150... then there is the issue of purchasing risers for all those and a larger PSU to support that.. most decent 1000+ psu's are in the mid $200+ you can get a platinum 850 and less PSU on sale a lot of times for $70-100..... so you save at that point also...

So overall it seems you could build 2, 3-4 card cheat full atx builds for the same price as a single 6 gpu setup.... am i wrong to think this?

I think you're right on par. I know there are plenty of posts on these forums on how to make a 6+ card rig. I've never had any luck. Any time I got more than 4 or 5, it's nothing but problems. I'm with Phil, I stick to 3 or 4 card builds.

With dual-wide cards, that case will support 4 cards WITHOUT backplates. I've had my eye on it for a while. I was curious how you were going to cram 5 cards in there. Assuming you're not using the single-wide Katanas that Phil found, I think you'll be capped at 4.

Considering how expensive +1000W PSUs are, I think 750W/850W 4-card builds are the sweet-spot.

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