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legendary
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Hi people,
Hello,
I'm having issues with Nicehash Miner 1.7.5.13 and also with 2.0.0.7. Same problem with every miner: after changing one or two algorythm, it freezes, crashes (restart) or even BSOD with Driver_IRQL_OR_LESS.
If I'm mining with only one algo selected on every gpu and not trying to switch, it works just fine, stable for hours and even days. Alpha version crashes sometimes, with .13 version works like charm. Eh, when I enable more algos and try to switch (I should mention I've tried with profitability at 0.07 and 0.1, which means it switch at 10% difference) it crashes as said above.

I've read on other places, reddit, nicehash issues on github that other people are having these issues. I've tried with two different drivers, not being latest.

OS: Win10 creators update with latest updates
GPU: 3x Asus GTX 1060 Dual and 3x Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce, all six with 6GB. A bit of overclock is done, +128 core and +196 memory. 100% power limit.
Driver 378.49
PSU: 2x Seasonic 850W

What could be the issue in your opinion?
Regards,
John
With so much going on, I think this maybe got overlooked.
Have often seen Phil advise not to try and put too many gpus on the one mobo - maybe that's at fault here.
Could you advise: which motherboard, processor; ram quantity

Switching is very tough on gear.  And you are at 100% tdp  which I think  is terrible  use of power.

just  drop tdp to 85%  core to 100 and ram to 150

Here is a simple reason  switching is hard.

eth likes 100 core and 300 memory
zec likes 200 core       and 0 memory

So if you switch back and forth   set at   128 core and 196 memory  when you are on eth   the settings are okay  but on zec the settings are less then ideal

  if you have five algos  most likely only one or two match your settings well and the other 3 are less then ideal.   So at 100% tdp  you magnify  the less then ideal settings.  plus you could be switching  a lot.
So back off on tdp core memory clock

Also make it switch at 15%  not 10%   so  that less switching occurs.

85%    not 100% ======= tdp
100     not 128    >>>>>>> core
150    not  196    ======= memory

15%   not 10%   >>>>>>>  switch time



hero member
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I was looking at maybe mining spread coin.  It is a pain to mine its a bit like ETH where you have to have the whole blockchain downloaded.  And then you have to only solo mine to your wallet, so there is a bit of luck involved, you need one wallet per rig also.  It didn't seem to be working when I tried but the blockchain wasn't downloaded yet so I will try again tonight.

Anyone mining this and have any thoughts or tips on how to actually get it going.  The threads on it have a guy with an enhanced miner wanting upfront BTC to get his miner,  just not sure about that incase its only a fad to mine it for a few weeks.?  the price looks really good and I saw that it is up another 20% today!
I bought it - I would not recommend it. Unstable, buggy, it does mine faster, but the high variance on spread makes it meh. I'm seeing less profit vs skein.
legendary
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Be a bank
Hi people,
Hello,
I'm having issues with Nicehash Miner 1.7.5.13 and also with 2.0.0.7. Same problem with every miner: after changing one or two algorythm, it freezes, crashes (restart) or even BSOD with Driver_IRQL_OR_LESS.
If I'm mining with only one algo selected on every gpu and not trying to switch, it works just fine, stable for hours and even days. Alpha version crashes sometimes, with .13 version works like charm. Eh, when I enable more algos and try to switch (I should mention I've tried with profitability at 0.07 and 0.1, which means it switch at 10% difference) it crashes as said above.

I've read on other places, reddit, nicehash issues on github that other people are having these issues. I've tried with two different drivers, not being latest.

OS: Win10 creators update with latest updates
GPU: 3x Asus GTX 1060 Dual and 3x Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce, all six with 6GB. A bit of overclock is done, +128 core and +196 memory. 100% power limit.
Driver 378.49
PSU: 2x Seasonic 850W

What could be the issue in your opinion?
Regards,
John
With so much going on, I think this maybe got overlooked.
Have often seen Phil advise not to try and put too many gpus on the one mobo - maybe that's at fault here.
Could you advise: which motherboard, processor; ram quantity
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max



Hi
I have several rigs with msi z97 gaming 5, all with 7 amd gpu, so i decided to build a rig with 7 nvidia gpu with this type of mobo, it detected all 7 gpus in device manager but one gpu has error code 12 ( not enough resource), it is not to mention that it tried everything in bios also i replaced some gtx 1070 with gtx 970 because of one post i read in this forum about difference between amd and nvidia in  pcie lane handling in among of gpus memory, no success at all, cpu was g3260 and i tried both win 7 and 10, i don't know what is difference between amd and nvidia here!

add more ram  are you 4gb?  add  a 4 gb stick


as for hedging  I sold 1.3 btc today  I will keep it as cash.
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im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  

depends on how many coins you have.
if you are looking to cash  10 coins or more  you may be taxed

More than that but I'm in EU so that would not apply to me .?

I think this is good advice:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/a-beginners-guide-to-surviving-a-coin-split-cm764421

TLDR;
1. Control your private keys.
2. To be on the safe side, avoid any transactions shortly after the split.
3. As the dust settles, split your coins. How, exactly, will depend on Bitcoin's post-fork landscape.

Basically make sure you have control of your wallet(s), don't panic then wait a while to see what happens. The value may drop as the shitstorm settles down but imho it will return to current levels or higher. Remember where it was a couple of years ago!

In a recent meeting with my group, to manage the risk of this BTC fork come 1st AUG.... will be moving a large BTC position to ETH and Litecoin.

We also have concluded that there will be panic selling but BTC will rise up above 3K soon enough.... (past case ETH vs ETC), we will monitoring this situation and may buy BTC if it dips below 1700.

I've been thinking about ways to hedge for the fork without going to cash as well.
Has anyone used Vaultoro? It's an exchange where you can switch from BTC to gold. The downside is it's a centralized exchange so it wouldn't be wise to put to much on it.
legendary
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool

wow you realy in september we can see 100000 ETH...

100,000 eth difficulty man not 100,000 price eth LOL
legendary
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool

wow you realy in september we can see 100000 ETH...

well just doing the math, seems we are adding 10000-12000 diff per month and with vega cumming soon, there should be some new cards to buy before those get snapped up

as I speak now diff is steady at 71,000  up 11k this month alone , before we surmised that the shortage of cards would slow down difficulty, this theory has proven to be blatantly false

since we see diff is always going up, in the absence of any data to the contrary it seems some people have access to mass amount of cards and they will need to keep adding hash to make

up for the loss of income from the price drops and diff , slower block times etc.   

Diff will keep going higher this is truly fascinating to watch, Im power tapped  but I have almost 100 gpus sitting idle due to heat issues , I wont turn them on till winter around October , meanwhile I'm selling

them on ebay as well since they are of no use to me sitting idle.  I would never have imagined the diff could grow 10k per moth but I think we are just seeing the start of this from all indications.
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool

wow you realy in september we can see 100000 ETH...
member
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@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max



Hi
I have several rigs with msi z97 gaming 5, all with 7 amd gpu, so i decided to build a rig with 7 nvidia gpu with this type of mobo, it detected all 7 gpus in device manager but one gpu has error code 12 ( not enough resource), it is not to mention that it tried everything in bios also i replaced some gtx 1070 with gtx 970 because of one post i read in this forum about difference between amd and nvidia in  pcie lane handling in among of gpus memory, no success at all, cpu was g3260 and i tried both win 7 and 10, i don't know what is difference between amd and nvidia here!
newbie
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diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool
That is a TON of GPUs... to be sold on the market soon.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
diff just spiked to 70k a few mins ago , I think we will see 100k eth diff by september .. fun times  Cool
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Random hardware question, recently GP0 on 4 different machines has been randomly resetting back to stock OEM gpu settings... its never done this before tell just the past few days.. its not the same pc doing it.. each one has done it randomly during the week.... i keep downclocking the gpu, but it seems to not care, because i left it at +0,+0 OC and Mem today but 70%TDP and 70c temp, got home from being out and the GPU was reset back to stock settings... so confused
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If you choose altcoins to diversify, be aware if they're asic based or gpu.  Take LTC for instance.  The largest asic producer for LTC just happens to be the biggest asic producer for BTC, too.  Did you really gain anything??!!  And the true irony... LTC already has SegWit!
legendary
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
a few days before the split I am putting all of my BTC into a vanity wallet I generated some time ago.

I will have to download two massive blockchains to recover the funds... but Ill do it.... if I haven't already converted it to fiat or an alt some time before.

I sent some requests for the ability for our hardware wallets (specifically ledger) to have access to both chains after the split.  Should be interesting to see if they take this on;  or I wont be using it anymore, possibly not even after the split.

This is all retarded.  All of it.

Had they just doubled the blocksize, things wouldn't seem near as drastic as the core team makes it out to be.... no joke.

Things are going to crumble a bit.   I think more than a bit....

The core team devs ARE forcing a fork by means of control;  rather than the original agreed upon consensus method.
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !

the facts:
1. nobody (core dev vs hw manufacturers) are likely to budge, so come Aug 1st -- all hell is going to break loose (worst case scenario), my group thinks that ETH, Litecoin and Dash will surge in price.... Monero, ZEC .... maybe
3. suddenly.... S10 and A8 ASICS will rock the world once again, with premium price. Meanwhile... you can get a spanking new A741 now for 800 bucks.


 Most of the hardware manufacturers SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING BITMAIN (and as I recall BitFury and Caanan as well) were part of the "consensus" that led to the changes that require the fork to implement.
 What is this "core dev vs hw manufacturers" FUD?

There is no S10 or S8 - where is THAT nonsense originating from?

 While I can see some risk of a short-term "panic" happening due to the ignorant spreading FUD, I don't see this event having any major negative effect on Bitcoin and a great deal of positive effect in the long term.

What is this "core dev vs hw manufacturers" FUD?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etyjc1JdmFU
See 22min 15sec onwards....
Full video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1dPSL6i7RA&t=0s
I was in the Q&A during the talk and Vitalik was also there, and commented that while ETH fork was within the control of the devs.... the Bitcoin one is NOT....
My group started our hedging strategy soon after this talk.
IMHO, Bitcoin will likely survive this, I am all for that, the blockchain blah blah blah..... as long as an investment hedging strategy is in place before the fork and not be dragged into the hole because nobody can predict the future.


There is no S10 or S8 - where is THAT nonsense originating from?

My comment was cynically futuristic where when all is dandy again.... we get screwed again by Bitmain because they monopolize the Asics market, and there are no serious competitors. Canaan is not enough.
Philip's first thread.... 4 iterations ago, was one of the reasons I convinced my group to diversify away from Asics and invest in GPU farms.
When in doubt.... "...I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions...." - philipma1957

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Is USDT actually safe and backed by anything?  I would not put a whole lot into it for very long, especially if you have to leave it on the exchange.  Is there a USDT wallet?
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this is true?

if so only if I am on core 14.02?


It should be true for any wallet where you have the private keys... electrum, core,  what have you.  

A similar, un-contentious hard fork just occurred over in ZCL a few weeks ago.  I now have coins on both the ZCL and Zen-cash chains.  

However, the parts do NOT equal the whole... at least at this moment.  Perhaps some day they will.
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Ok so mining prices have really dumped.

I was looking at maybe mining spread coin.  It is a pain to mine its a bit like ETH where you have to have the whole blockchain downloaded.  And then you have to only solo mine to your wallet, so there is a bit of luck involved, you need one wallet per rig also.  It didn't seem to be working when I tried but the blockchain wasn't downloaded yet so I will try again tonight.

Anyone mining this and have any thoughts or tips on how to actually get it going.  The threads on it have a guy with an enhanced miner wanting upfront BTC to get his miner,  just not sure about that incase its only a fad to mine it for a few weeks.?  the price looks really good and I saw that it is up another 20% today!
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I have 3 1080ti's on one board

Running into an unusual heat from my first card.. it hits 75/85 where the other 2 are holding around 60..

Running at 70 tdp with 70% fan speed.. been stable for a while now. It's hot in the basement, but temps were stable until now..

Need to get some risers.. I used to have some, cant figire out where they went.

I had a similar issue with my 3 card setup some fans sorted it.  It was the card that had the most space that was the hottest.  It was almost near the CPU though.  The squashed card was the coolest as it had the hotest card sucking heat off it and going onto itself.

Yes you will want risers.

My cards were not blower style and I couldn't get the hotest card above 70% tpd or it would go oever 70C.

I think your right. Recommendation on where to get a powered riser? I have (2) of the old school ribbon ones.. can I use those?

I bought mine on ali express.  But they take 20 days to get here.  Make sure you get the 4 capacitor ones that also have the two chips that regulate voltage/spikes.   You also want the 6 pin plug on the riser so you can power them directly from the PSU as the cable that comes with them is not really useable for cards like 1080ti or similar.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TISHRIC-VER006C-Blue-1x-to-16x-PCI-Express-Riser-Card-PCI-E-Extender-60cm-USB-3/32800974325.html?spm=2114.40010308.4.2.A3kWYP

I got ones like this.  See the two little chips by the 4th capacitor one yellow one black.  I dunno about the ribbon ones sorry.  That one is out of stock but you can find ones like that easily.

If you are in the US there is other options. 

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/ithoo-usb3-0-pci-express-1x-to-16x-extender-riser-card-adapter-w-24-cable/
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Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !

the facts:
1. nobody (core dev vs hw manufacturers) are likely to budge, so come Aug 1st -- all hell is going to break loose (worst case scenario), my group thinks that ETH, Litecoin and Dash will surge in price.... Monero, ZEC .... maybe
2. "its not the end of the world" --- this fork issue, if it happens... it will shape the surge and resilience of BTC as the leading crypto currency, it needs to be tried and tested...
3. suddenly.... S10 and A8 ASICS will rock the world once again, with premium price. Meanwhile... you can get a spanking new A741 now for 800 bucks.

the risks:
3. the group don't want to be in any compromising position so 3 things to do: take substantial BTC out for cash, take early position in ETH (50%), Litecoin and Dash (30, 20%), and lastly prepare to buy back BTC on the cheap (sub-$1700). As far back as 3 months ago, the group has increased ETH farm hash and buying ETH whenever it drops... we got a few good buys during the exchange glitch at Polo.
4. 4th option -- do nothing.... but we dont want to risk it. This situation is not anything like ETH vs ETC fork, because core dev is not in control, hence forcing the segwit fork to fix their software bugs... dont forget the other big force -- Bitmain, and while they agreed to do segwit, they agreed segwit and 2mb blocksize bump up together..... but Core dev may not have this in mind...  so because this is a case of 2 five year olds fighting each other ... so we wont be part of that - lets be realistic.... yes, we support the blockchain but we dont want to go bankrupt either....

the strategy:
1. the risks are real
2. you got to have a strategy (any strategy to hedge or to limit risks)
3. diversify.... just like how you would in the stock market.

There is a 5th option which is also pretty smart and safe which alot of people are going with and have already mentioned here.  Put your BTC on your own private wallet, so when it forks you can actually choose which one to change it into.  If you leave it on an exchange/other places you don't control they will choose for you.

If you already have BTC you could cash it out but the price is not great.  If you cashed it out now you could potentially buy BTC back at lower prices.    There is also the other senario where you miss the train and it is higher than when you cashed out.  Ultimately it will be higher as this is a big deal going forward.  I am part of several trading groups and this really is one of the best bets.

Exchanging for other cyrpo's is a good idea but you really are taking a risk on some of the percieved strong coins.  ETH IMO is not a good bet with all the issues it has had lately and the major changes coming to it.  It is a big risk.   That risk could really really pay off though as with the other coins.

Personally I think BTC in cold storage where you control the seed, USDT or cash are the safest options.

Personally I will be putting most of my BTC into altcoins as the prices are going to be major steal in the coming few weeks.  I may put some into USDT also and a very small portion will be in cold storage BTC.  I won't be cashing out at all.

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