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I have 3 1080ti's on one board

Running into an unusual heat from my first card.. it hits 75/85 where the other 2 are holding around 60..

Running at 70 tdp with 70% fan speed.. been stable for a while now. It's hot in the basement, but temps were stable until now..

Need to get some risers.. I used to have some, cant figire out where they went.

I had a similar issue with my 3 card setup some fans sorted it.  It was the card that had the most space that was the hottest.  It was almost near the CPU though.  The squashed card was the coolest as it had the hotest card sucking heat off it and going onto itself.

Yes you will want risers.

My cards were not blower style and I couldn't get the hotest card above 70% tpd or it would go oever 70C.

I think your right. Recommendation on where to get a powered riser? I have (2) of the old school ribbon ones.. can I use those?
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I am getting flakey numbers on this nicehash account


https://new.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

How many cards is that your running? seen the 1080ti labels, rig 1 seems like 2x1080ti's and rig 2 im unsure on.. seems like 2x1080ti +1080?
Just curious, im looking to make a change.. my earnings lately have been terrible on zpool... with 18x 1080ti's i made a whole 0.0189btc in 24hrs of mining....

zcash is down big time on nicehash so I switched to zpool skein a couple days ago. running 14x 1080ti, 1x1080, 1x1070, 1x980ti. about $15-20 more a day than nicehash.

how do you make more on skein over equihash? I just tried and i am getting a lot lower on skein..
all coins are down. So any info may be out of date.

Also one day test is not accurate.

One 24 hour period is a pretty good test actually.  I track my skein daily at the same time every day and it is pretty spot on over a 24hour period.  But in saying if you turn your miner off some more BTC will trickle in as things you mined clear the exhange.  But its only a 1-2% more so you can get  a pretty good indication.

Skein has been around 1-2$ more than zec for the last three weeks.  It has dipped lower once.  And again yesterday it dipped lower and today it is lower.

All I can say it  mine the most valueable coin now and hold the BTC and sell it later.

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Activity: 192
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I have 3 1080ti's on one board

Running into an unusual heat from my first card.. it hits 75/85 where the other 2 are holding around 60..

Running at 70 tdp with 70% fan speed.. been stable for a while now. It's hot in the basement, but temps were stable until now..

Need to get some risers.. I used to have some, cant figire out where they went.

I had a similar issue with my 3 card setup some fans sorted it.  It was the card that had the most space that was the hottest.  It was almost near the CPU though.  The squashed card was the coolest as it had the hotest card sucking heat off it and going onto itself.

Yes you will want risers.

My cards were not blower style and I couldn't get the hotest card above 70% tpd or it would go oever 70C.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I have 3 1080ti's on one board

Running into an unusual heat from my first card.. it hits 75/85 where the other 2 are holding around 60..

Running at 70 tdp with 70% fan speed.. been stable for a while now. It's hot in the basement, but temps were stable until now..

Need to get some risers.. I used to have some, cant figire out where they went.
newbie
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Fyi...Asus Prime z270A working fine with 1x 4Gb stick and 8 sapphire cards.
legendary
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Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !

the facts:
1. nobody (core dev vs hw manufacturers) are likely to budge, so come Aug 1st -- all hell is going to break loose (worst case scenario), my group thinks that ETH, Litecoin and Dash will surge in price.... Monero, ZEC .... maybe
3. suddenly.... S10 and A8 ASICS will rock the world once again, with premium price. Meanwhile... you can get a spanking new A741 now for 800 bucks.


 Most of the hardware manufacturers SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING BITMAIN (and as I recall BitFury and Caanan as well) were part of the "consensus" that led to the changes that require the fork to implement.
 What is this "core dev vs hw manufacturers" FUD?

 There is no S10 or S8 - where is THAT nonsense originating from?


 While I can see some risk of a short-term "panic" happening due to the ignorant spreading FUD, I don't see this event having any major negative effect on Bitcoin and a great deal of positive effect in the long term.

legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !

the facts:
1. nobody (core dev vs hw manufacturers) are likely to budge, so come Aug 1st -- all hell is going to break loose (worst case scenario), my group thinks that ETH, Litecoin and Dash will surge in price.... Monero, ZEC .... maybe
2. "its not the end of the world" --- this fork issue, if it happens... it will shape the surge and resilience of BTC as the leading crypto currency, it needs to be tried and tested...
3. suddenly.... S10 and A8 ASICS will rock the world once again, with premium price. Meanwhile... you can get a spanking new A741 now for 800 bucks.

the risks:
3. the group don't want to be in any compromising position so 3 things to do: take substantial BTC out for cash, take early position in ETH (50%), Litecoin and Dash (30, 20%), and lastly prepare to buy back BTC on the cheap (sub-$1700). As far back as 3 months ago, the group has increased ETH farm hash and buying ETH whenever it drops... we got a few good buys during the exchange glitch at Polo.
4. 4th option -- do nothing.... but we dont want to risk it. This situation is not anything like ETH vs ETC fork, because core dev is not in control, hence forcing the segwit fork to fix their software bugs... dont forget the other big force -- Bitmain, and while they agreed to do segwit, they agreed segwit and 2mb blocksize bump up together..... but Core dev may not have this in mind...  so because this is a case of 2 five year olds fighting each other ... so we wont be part of that - lets be realistic.... yes, we support the blockchain but we dont want to go bankrupt either....

the strategy:
1. the risks are real
2. you got to have a strategy (any strategy to hedge or to limit risks)
3. diversify.... just like how you would in the stock market.

And a word to our newer friends... Don't keep your BTC on an exchange, nor keep it in a pool wallet. If you don't have the private keys, you don't have the BTC.

And the reason to have the private keys is because in the event of a chain split, you'll have coins on both chains.

this is true?

if so only if I am on core 14.02?



SVK
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I keep them on Electrum(1.6.1 released in 2012 lol )  and I have seed code.

Was told that that is all I need.?


Some people are saying that there will be no split - no two coins - no two blockchains and that I should stop spreading/inciting panic etc.

Greed will kill BTC one way or another.

I have enough LTC from my early mining days (Before asics started - still remember when Philip was building his solar farm Smiley  )
So I'm not too keen on LTC.

Should I make paper wallets ?

Why in the hell they have to argue just let it be, greedy ba.....ds Sad
hero member
Activity: 615
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Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !

the facts:
1. nobody (core dev vs hw manufacturers) are likely to budge, so come Aug 1st -- all hell is going to break loose (worst case scenario), my group thinks that ETH, Litecoin and Dash will surge in price.... Monero, ZEC .... maybe
2. "its not the end of the world" --- this fork issue, if it happens... it will shape the surge and resilience of BTC as the leading crypto currency, it needs to be tried and tested...
3. suddenly.... S10 and A8 ASICS will rock the world once again, with premium price. Meanwhile... you can get a spanking new A741 now for 800 bucks.

the risks:
3. the group don't want to be in any compromising position so 3 things to do: take substantial BTC out for cash, take early position in ETH (50%), Litecoin and Dash (30, 20%), and lastly prepare to buy back BTC on the cheap (sub-$1700). As far back as 3 months ago, the group has increased ETH farm hash and buying ETH whenever it drops... we got a few good buys during the exchange glitch at Polo.
4. 4th option -- do nothing.... but we dont want to risk it. This situation is not anything like ETH vs ETC fork, because core dev is not in control, hence forcing the segwit fork to fix their software bugs... dont forget the other big force -- Bitmain, and while they agreed to do segwit, they agreed segwit and 2mb blocksize bump up together..... but Core dev may not have this in mind...  so because this is a case of 2 five year olds fighting each other ... so we wont be part of that - lets be realistic.... yes, we support the blockchain but we dont want to go bankrupt either....

the strategy:
1. the risks are real
2. you got to have a strategy (any strategy to hedge or to limit risks)
3. diversify.... just like how you would in the stock market.

And a word to our newer friends... Don't keep your BTC on an exchange, nor keep it in a pool wallet. If you don't have the private keys, you don't have the BTC.

And the reason to have the private keys is because in the event of a chain split, you'll have coins on both chains.
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I followed Cryptomined's video, since he got the 12 x GPUs (6x1060s and 6x580s) working with Celeron but he did try both 8GB and 16GB memory in the build.

Biostar's guide was 8/16GB for 6xcards and 16/32GB for 12 cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exjRTIZu89Q

I have one H110 board coming from Newegg on Tuesday. Will see how it goes with Celeron. Really want to convince it to work on Windows with 8+ GPUs but am prepared for nvOC despite my religion and for the sake of science.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max



I followed Cryptomined's video, since he got the 12 x GPUs (6x1060s and 6x580s) working with Celeron but he did try both 8GB and 16GB memory in the build.

Biostar's guide was 8/16GB for 6xcards and 16/32GB for 12 cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exjRTIZu89Q
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max



truth is I am not sure  but  I have i5 6400t  and I have i7 6700t.  and I think I will do 1 big rig no more.  so I am set.


to the fork.


I have

btc----------6 =   15000
cash ---------  =   3000
gpus ---------  =  10000
asics ---------  =   6000
other coins --- =   1000
total assets      =  35000
  credit debt     =    6000
 net worth        =   29000

looks to me I need less btc more cash and get some other coins
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@ Citronick, What CPU would you recommend for that board? i3, i5?
ram? I'm thinking about getting one too.
Thanks for any info.
Chili
 

does look cool a 13 card board.

I have to think use  an i5  6400t  but not sure.

Wouldnt you need like an i7? i wouldnt think the i3 and i5 have enough pcie bandwidth... my understandings is each 1x pcie slot reserves 2 channels on pcie controller..... the motherboard may be compatible with the lower cpu's but do they have enough channels to fully use the motherboard fully??

ive read that i3 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i5 with 16 channels can only support up to 8 gpu's max

ive read that i7 with 28 channels can only support up to 14 gpu's max

legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !

the facts:
1. nobody (core dev vs hw manufacturers) are likely to budge, so come Aug 1st -- all hell is going to break loose (worst case scenario), my group thinks that ETH, Litecoin and Dash will surge in price.... Monero, ZEC .... maybe
2. "its not the end of the world" --- this fork issue, if it happens... it will shape the surge and resilience of BTC as the leading crypto currency, it needs to be tried and tested...
3. suddenly.... S10 and A8 ASICS will rock the world once again, with premium price. Meanwhile... you can get a spanking new A741 now for 800 bucks.

the risks:
3. the group don't want to be in any compromising position so 3 things to do: take substantial BTC out for cash, take early position in ETH (50%), Litecoin and Dash (30, 20%), and lastly prepare to buy back BTC on the cheap (sub-$1700). As far back as 3 months ago, the group has increased ETH farm hash and buying ETH whenever it drops... we got a few good buys during the exchange glitch at Polo.
4. 4th option -- do nothing.... but we dont want to risk it. This situation is not anything like ETH vs ETC fork, because core dev is not in control, hence forcing the segwit fork to fix their software bugs... dont forget the other big force -- Bitmain, and while they agreed to do segwit, they agreed segwit and 2mb blocksize bump up together..... but Core dev may not have this in mind...  so because this is a case of 2 five year olds fighting each other ... so we wont be part of that - lets be realistic.... yes, we support the blockchain but we dont want to go bankrupt either....

the strategy:
1. the risks are real
2. you got to have a strategy (any strategy to hedge or to limit risks)
3. diversify.... just like how you would in the stock market.
hero member
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Citronick , I'm interested in your deep thinking about why you prefer going out of BTC field before hard fork than staying in and get the coins splitted.
It seems that there are pros and cons for both strategys, but none seems obviously superior to the other.
Would be glad to have you thoughts about it !
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  

depends on how many coins you have.
if you are looking to cash  10 coins or more  you may be taxed

More than that but I'm in EU so that would not apply to me .?

I think this is good advice:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/a-beginners-guide-to-surviving-a-coin-split-cm764421

TLDR;
1. Control your private keys.
2. To be on the safe side, avoid any transactions shortly after the split.
3. As the dust settles, split your coins. How, exactly, will depend on Bitcoin's post-fork landscape.

Basically make sure you have control of your wallet(s), don't panic then wait a while to see what happens. The value may drop as the shitstorm settles down but imho it will return to current levels or higher. Remember where it was a couple of years ago!

In a recent meeting with my group, to manage the risk of this BTC fork come 1st AUG.... will be moving a large BTC position to ETH and Litecoin.

We also have concluded that there will be panic selling but BTC will rise up above 3K soon enough.... (past case ETH vs ETC), we will monitoring this situation and may buy BTC if it dips below 1700.
full member
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im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  

depends on how many coins you have.
if you are looking to cash  10 coins or more  you may be taxed

More than that but I'm in EU so that would not apply to me .?

I think this is good advice:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/a-beginners-guide-to-surviving-a-coin-split-cm764421

TLDR;
1. Control your private keys.
2. To be on the safe side, avoid any transactions shortly after the split.
3. As the dust settles, split your coins. How, exactly, will depend on Bitcoin's post-fork landscape.

Basically make sure you have control of your wallet(s), don't panic then wait a while to see what happens. The value may drop as the shitstorm settles down but imho it will return to current levels or higher. Remember where it was a couple of years ago!
SVK
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  

depends on how many coins you have.
if you are looking to cash  10 coins or more  you may be taxed

More than that but I'm in EU so that would not apply to me .?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  

depends on how many coins you have.
if you are looking to cash  10 coins or more  you may be taxed
SVK
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
im curious what is going to happen when the BTC upgrades, im under the understanding that a new HARD FORK is being created for it....
no joke right there.

If we can't get our way the legit way, we will force it on everyone.....   the core team has lost their minds with this mentality.   Destroying bitcoin.  Going against it's core principles... one as basic as consensus....  It's sad... Truly sad.   They lost a LOT of respect in my eyes.

This hardfork is going to cause some serious waves......

I may shift to cash to ride this out.



Hi Phillip,

I have all BTC on Electrum and I'm not sure what to do Sad
Looks like someone went full retard and decided to split BTC Sad

I have no clue how to split BTC and there is one article from Electrum site as to what to do but they are talking about Linux and I would rather kill myself than touch that nonsense system.

Should I just quickly download Bitcoin core and transfer all BTC there or sell all coins I'm holding since 2013 ?
(It's sad to see end of the bitcoin after all those years)

Thank you for help  
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