Topic: Free lightning tests (Read 3551 times)
Back for 4 hours if anyone wanted to give the lightning network a try. I'll be here again in a few days too...
I think i've received them? Electrum has an inbuilt function to add capacity and that seemed to work...
I might have to look into that wallet (if it has a PC or Android wallet) - I'm still unsure how to recover the funds lost in the Zap wallet. (but that's a horror story for another night)
Not sure what the bback-end for Blue Wallet is - no open channels, but it accepted all that I sent its way (getting them back is proving problematic)
I think i've received them? Electrum has an inbuilt function to add capacity and that seemed to work...
I got a confirmation, it's paid!
Return invoice:
I'm using electrum on my computer so I assume it has normal power management - so there's not too much of a rush...
I might potentially have a capacity issue though.
Return invoice:
Code:
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
I'm using electrum on my computer so I assume it has normal power management - so there's not too much of a rush...
I might potentially have a capacity issue though.
Payment received - I've been attempting to send back to you - both Blue and Eclair don't seem to work, but that I mean blue comes up with the error message:
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Alert:
API error: Payment failed. Does the receiver have enough inbound capacity? ( code 10 )
API error: Payment failed. Does the receiver have enough inbound capacity? ( code 10 )
That's pretty much the same error I get when I try to shift the funds.
I dialed the payment down in steps from 250,000 to 90,000 but keep getting that same error.
On Eclair, if I change the payment amount, I get an error the hash is incorrect while the actual payment request gives "ten attempts" and no channels open to the recipient.
DONE! sent via Eclair (am back to where I started from)
I got a confirmation, it's paid!
Return invoice:
I'm using electrum on my computer so I assume it has normal power managment - so there's not too much of a rush...
I might potentially have a capaicty issue though.
Return invoice:
Code:
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
I'm using electrum on my computer so I assume it has normal power managment - so there's not too much of a rush...
I might potentially have a capaicty issue though.
I'm opening a channel with acinq, I'll be back in (exactly) half an hour to do the transfer in case you're having to leave éclair open or something.
Hey thanks, am still here. (and yes, my mobile phone just doesn't like keeping anything running once the screen goes blank).
I'm opening a channel with acinq, I'll be back in (exactly) half an hour to do the transfer in case you're having to leave éclair open or something.
Ywah I think you were right about not being able to root as much, are the nodes you're connected to quite well connected on the node explorer or have you been trying to connect to random nodes? In the other thread there was a graph of the best connected "top layer" nodes.
I'll have to check who/where I'm connected to on my Eclair wallet (am pretty sure ACINQ is the one with the 0.025 channel) none of my wallets have ever shown up on 1ml.com which I put down to an ever changing I.P. through my ISP.
Ywah I think you were right about not being able to root as much, are the nodes you're connected to quite well connected on the node explorer or have you been trying to connect to random nodes? In the other thread there was a graph of the best connected "top layer" nodes.
If you prefer I send first, that's ok too.
Code:
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I'll be on for the next hour to ensure I repay.
Thanks.[/s]
Withdrawn. Thanks all the same.
I'm going to bump this now but I'll open a few channels with electrum and test how that works as well as my standard éclair.
Should be available for 10 hours...
Should be available for 10 hours...
What are people using for building up channel capacity? Do you just send yourself sats from one wallet to another... or do you use "Loop In/Out" etc? 
I used to use CoinPlaza.it to transfer from LN to on-chain, but (on-chain) fees aren't really worth it anymore for small amounts. An alternative is to convert it to Dogecoin, the minimum is 0.24 mBTC for 1000 Doge.Another alternative is Phoenix Wallet: it opens a channel on it's own, and gives you incoming capacity.
Tricky question.
Like Loyce I *was* using coinplaza, but their TX fees shot up, so I haven't done much lately. That being said, the Blue wallet you can have (seemingly) unlimited inbound and outbound capacity for LN transactions, so I could possibly empty my funds from my Eclair Wallet, send the lot to Blue and then send it back as an on-chain TX to Eclair and open one super large channel in much the same way I did with the channels I currently have on Eclair.
I haven't tried Phoenix, so I might try that one as well.
What are people using for building up channel capacity? Do you just send yourself sats from one wallet to another... or do you use "Loop In/Out" etc?
I used to use CoinPlaza.it to transfer from LN to on-chain, but (on-chain) fees aren't really worth it anymore for small amounts. An alternative is to convert it to Dogecoin, the minimum is 0.24 mBTC for 1000 Doge.Another alternative is Phoenix Wallet: it opens a channel on it's own, and gives you incoming capacity.
What are people using for building up channel capacity? Do you just send yourself sats from one wallet to another... or do you use "Loop In/Out" etc?
A couple of lightning gambling sites let you cash out to main chain amounts over 0.001-0.01, sometimes betting 2k sats on those or higher fulfills your moral conscience in asking for a withdrawal - especially if you have my luck 🤣.
What are people using for building up channel capacity? Do you just send yourself sats from one wallet to another... or do you use "Loop In/Out" etc?
I should be able to receive some 
Yep it's sent on my end, thanks!
The channel to ACINQ finally got opened and I was able to move some sats around... so, hopefully, I should be able to receive some
Code:
lnbc100u1p0c9f2tpp5eehmcj5wdh4ykegvnjph7v3l7dmaus7sd0mvnqkmcj4ravqvjgdsdqawd5x7aeqd4jjqargv5sx6mmwv4ujzcqzpgxqyz5vqsp5mu7x52r28vm0dc8jjqrvup9xplwyhp7dmsfgttdmdfjegfp3nqns9qy9qsq0e8zx8jx7mfjthvu3ttvtqxn4jgjz2r8gsnxd76ha0g9rr9fwh9xrrfhznstpr8akzqtfhhmthux0hdcj7vqw3dnrjrnfxcvuhjtafgqfptnyv
Available for another ~12 hours.
Have you got an invoice for me or do you not have the inbound capacity?
It's quite impressive how few hops it takes though (although that could be due to centralisation). With a lot of nodes I still don't think we can expect many hops (probably a log2(n) or less - with n being the number of nodes on the network). I think the ln is designed to encourage lots of small channels rather than one or two big ones...
Apparently it did indeed go through... via OpenNode -> ACINQ -> some random node
Have you got an invoice for me or do you not have the inbound capacity?
It's quite impressive how few hops it takes though (although that could be due to centralisation). With a lot of nodes I still don't think we can expect many hops (probably a log2(n) or less - with n being the number of nodes on the network). I think the ln is designed to encourage lots of small channels rather than one or two big ones...
Apparently it did indeed go through... via OpenNode -> ACINQ -> some random node
I had to close Zap and then re-open and I was able to drill down into the transaction details... Zap wallet has some issues... I may need to investigate migrating to a different "front-end" for lnd if there is one, or maybe a different implementation altogether
I had to close Zap and then re-open and I was able to drill down into the transaction details... Zap wallet has some issues... I may need to investigate migrating to a different "front-end" for lnd if there is one, or maybe a different implementation altogether
Did this come through OK? It says "Payment Successful", but I don't seem to be able to drill down into the payment in "ZAP" wallet... and there was an error or 2 in the lnd debugging...
When I tried to send again as a test, it says it cannot find a route, so I'm guesssing my channels are not talking to your channels What's a "good" node to create a channel with these days?
When I tried to send again as a test, it says it cannot find a route, so I'm guesssing my channels are not talking to your channels
What's a "good" node to create a channel with these days? Yeah it came through on my eclair as being received, I then closed the app so it's probably why the second dint come through.
Can you see the funds leaving your wallet? I assume the CT has updated so the balance should be different?.
I'm seeing a payment hash on the transaction of: d1e2656d8663ba131d2bb4a77224cdba215ba436dc2837fef7c58660899f3137 but Id imagine that's the hash of the CT.
Eclair normally recommend: 03864ef025fde8fb587d989186ce6a4a186895ee44a926bfc370e2c366597a3f8f:node.acinq.co:9735 but I don't think the funds came down that route just then...
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