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Due to the unpopularity of the change wetsuit has decided to remove the RP redemption restrictions and try and figure out another way of fighting the botnets.

@solosss
You can ask your mummy to dry your tears away and change your nappy now.

You seemed to have missed the important part of what I was saying. It is an ongoing battle where every move we make they do something different and we have to change what we do in response.

so what next if bot stop?

Every satoshi a bot takes is one less that we can give to a legitimate player. The next move is to see how the botnet operators respond and then counter their next move. This is what we have been doing for nearly 5 years now. Most of the actions haven't affected other players but sometimes that is unavoidable.

That is an unfortunate side effect of being attacked by bots. We are happy that we have found a way to maintain full payouts to those customers that do gamble.

it will affect to all user who don't gambling, not only bot. And almost user is not gamble.

@Triple_S

I replied to you in the other thread. No need to cross post.

Well surprise surprise: I'M NO BOT USER!!!
But as many other legit users affected by this!

All these measures won't stop bot users just because of one reason:
Bot users can calculate with the AVERAGE claim amount, because for example if a bot user has 1000 accounts that claim 24/7, he will roll a 10000 almost every day - It's pure statistics. Therefore the amount bot users will calculate with is the AVERAGE claim amount, not the MINIMUM. The AVERAGE claim amount is currently around 172 satoshi. Before you halfed the MINIMUM reward it was like 10 satoshi higher, so not significaltly different. All this does only apply to users with lots of accounts, cause they will hit the high rewards in reasonable time. Regular users will need multiple years because of the low chances.

This basically means: You measures against bots affect regular users much more than bot users with many accounts!!! This is riddiculous!!!

Anyway there is still a possibility to hurt bot users while not hurting regular users and this would be my preferred measure: If you half ALL rewards and half the TIME BETWEEN 2 CLAIMS, the average amount per time will stay the same, but you have to solve twice as much Captchas for it, so regular users will be able to claim the exact same amount, but the costs for bot users will double! This is annoying to regular users, but will not affect their income.

Anyway I understand that you want to hurt users that don't generate income, but please don't be that hypocritical saying it is all against bots. As I just proved it mainly affects users that don't generate income for the site and there would be measures that would actually affect bots, but you don't take them.

If you now want to say I should just deposit some money to be counted as a user: I would never even think about investing real money into a website with a information policy as horrible as yours!!! You take measures that even you, the community manager, does not know anything about. It would be no effort to inform about the measures with a banner or so on the website, but you decided to make everything as silent as possible - How come?

My IP address has been blocked from playing the FREE PLAY game in freedoge.co.in

ID 2167425

I've just had confirmation that the restrictions on redeeming the higher levels of reward points is because a lot of the bot users were using their accumulated RP to increase their rewards 5x and making it profitable to bot again.

This restriction only applies to accounts that do not meet the minimum wagering/lotto ticket/balance requirement to reach the full base reward.

Again I'm sorry that the actions of a few selfish botnet abusers affects genuine users.

You will have to write something that is understandable if you expect an answer.

you can't faucet your casino website and you earn only on the fact that people will lose you on the website. if you do not want to give equal conditions to all - why do you do it?

confirm only that you can write there whatever you want

You're not taking into account all the extras we give you when you gamble. The reward points and lottery tickets all have a value that is reflected in that 5% house edge. Then how many other dice sites pay 50% referral commision and pay interest on your balance?
Whether it is appealing to you individually or not it is to many people and if you look on the site stats page at the total wagered and compare to other sites it will confirm that.

to be honest i dont understand why anyone still gambles on freebitco.in multiplier with its super-high 5% house edge. there are lots of other "multiplier"/"dice" games that offer much lower house edge - e.g. 999dice.com and the new multiplier on CoinPot (0% house edge!!)
dont get me wrong, i love freebitco.in as a faucet and all the extras (reward points, 50% referrals etc) just you are always going to lose fast against a 5% house edge

It shows the damage you and other bot users do to our genuine customers. There is a finite amount we can give away for free and every cent taken by bots is a cent we can't give to a real user.

  this will stop only the part of the botnet that pays for the captcha, the real botnet networks will continue to work, will increase only because you have reduced the payment of bitcoins
we'll have to figure something out, but I'm sure it won't stop us either. this shows how you treat your users.

As I said, I'll update the threads as soon as I have anything.

TheQuin, there is new information on points??

It certainly makes me feel good inside to see a self-confessed bot user so upset.