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sr. member
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cannot win much more than 20 dollars there... i dont think so that anyone can win 200 dollars there .. Cheesy

Many members winning different amounts and its not possible every one win 200 $ you can check all in states what's going on
full member
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cannot win much more than 20 dollars there... i dont think so that anyone can win 200 dollars there .. Cheesy
legendary
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but from my code block above, 9999 is found often!
It's because theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000 (and you make only 10 000 tries, which is not enough to test small probabilities like those).

Can you make 100 000 or even 1 000 000 tries? That would be interesting Smiley

"theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000"

Wtf? how is that possible?

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How are rolls calculated?
 Two strings are created :
 STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
 STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
 Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 giving us a 128 character hex string.
 The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
 This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded up to the nearest whole number.
 This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.

Since it uses "round up" instead of "round off", the chance to hit 9999 and 10000 should be the same...
Round up: All numbers bigger than 9999.0000001 will be converted to 10000
Round off: Only numbers bigger than 9999.5000001 will be converted to 10000
Whoa, I didn't know about that difference! But how one can roll "0" then? I think some people were reporting they got "0", and wetsuit said rolling "0" is possible? That's why I decided it's the usual rounding.

I didn't use the faucet, and if the numbers are generated as described, the only chance to get "0" is to get "00000000" in the sha512 output and the probability for that to happen should be just 1/(16^8).

I remember I once got zero but never even came close to 10000... Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 981
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Interesting. So, do you already have the fund or not ? In case got people won the 1BTC

yup, the hotwallet has ~ 5 BTC (https://blockchain.info/address/1FreefoKihgKN1nCPD4FNxuRDwwWjoiVFi and I'll add more to it as needed
https://blockchain.info/address/175o52E64wHQumzfLFnKrPaukJsvo9pgMb

new hot wallet?

Yes, that is the hotwallet I currently use to make payments.
legendary
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I am sorry, it should be "rounded off" and not "rounded up". I shall correct this on the website. So any number below 0.5 will be rounded down to 0.
hero member
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but from my code block above, 9999 is found often!
It's because theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000 (and you make only 10 000 tries, which is not enough to test small probabilities like those).

Can you make 100 000 or even 1 000 000 tries? That would be interesting Smiley

"theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000"

Wtf? how is that possible?

Quote
How are rolls calculated?
 Two strings are created :
 STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
 STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
 Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 giving us a 128 character hex string.
 The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
 This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded up to the nearest whole number.
 This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.

Since it uses "round up" instead of "round off", the chance to hit 9999 and 10000 should be the same...
Round up: All numbers bigger than 9999.0000001 will be converted to 10000
Round off: Only numbers bigger than 9999.5000001 will be converted to 10000
Whoa, I didn't know about that difference! But how one can roll "0" then? I think some people were reporting they got "0", and wetsuit said rolling "0" is possible? That's why I decided it's the usual rounding.

I didn't use the faucet, and if the numbers are generated as described, the only chance to get "0" is to get "00000000" in the sha512 output and the probability for that to happen should be just 1/(16^8).
sr. member
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legendary
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Too bad I was too lazy to deal with bitcoin when I first discovered it years ago, there was a faucet giving out sth like 0.5 BTC for free and BTC was worth only few cents Cheesy

Don't rub salt in the old wound, lol... I think everyone of us is cursing oneself for being too lazy, too stupid, too whatever for letting such an opportunity slip! Cool
newbie
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Whoa, I didn't know about that difference! But how one can roll "0" then? I think some people were reporting they got "0", and wetsuit said rolling "0" is possible? That's why I decided it's the usual rounding.

If rolling 0 is possible, the total number of outcomes is 10001. Regardless of rounding in that calculation procedure, there is no actual proof the probability of rolling a certain number is equal among all range.
So, the final rolled number is random, but not equally random (as of 1/10001 or 1/10000 probability for each outcome).
Well, not to have anything else to say over this faucet. It pays regularly and consistently.

Too bad I was too lazy to deal with bitcoin when I first discovered it years ago, there was a faucet giving out sth like 0.5 BTC for free and BTC was worth only few cents Cheesy
 
full member
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but from my code block above, 9999 is found often!
It's because theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000 (and you make only 10 000 tries, which is not enough to test small probabilities like those).

Can you make 100 000 or even 1 000 000 tries? That would be interesting Smiley

"theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000"

Wtf? how is that possible?

Quote
How are rolls calculated?
 Two strings are created :
 STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
 STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
 Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 giving us a 128 character hex string.
 The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
 This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded up to the nearest whole number.
 This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.

Since it uses "round up" instead of "round off", the chance to hit 9999 and 10000 should be the same...
Round up: All numbers bigger than 9999.0000001 will be converted to 10000
Round off: Only numbers bigger than 9999.5000001 will be converted to 10000
Whoa, I didn't know about that difference! But how one can roll "0" then? I think some people were reporting they got "0", and wetsuit said rolling "0" is possible? That's why I decided it's the usual rounding.
hero member
Activity: 820
Merit: 1000
but from my code block above, 9999 is found often!
It's because theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000 (and you make only 10 000 tries, which is not enough to test small probabilities like those).

Can you make 100 000 or even 1 000 000 tries? That would be interesting Smiley

"theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000"

Wtf? how is that possible?

Quote
How are rolls calculated?
 Two strings are created :
 STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
 STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
 Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 giving us a 128 character hex string.
 The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
 This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded up to the nearest whole number.
 This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.

Since it uses "round up" instead of "round off", the chance to hit 9999 and 10000 should be the same...
Round up: All numbers bigger than 9999.0000001 will be converted to 10000
Round off: Only numbers bigger than 9999.5000001 will be converted to 10000
legendary
Activity: 981
Merit: 1026
Wait, guys! So DOES THIS THING REALLY WORK? Huh

Are you asking whether the site pays out or not? If that's what you're asking then yes, it works. Here is a transaction that I received from them on the 22nd (mine is one of two addresses that received 0.00034735 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/tx/e692aad289251b6ba3e0eca1464d8b84d63638ba39428494cb49384bad21c5b9

I've been on the site since its early days, and it always pays out (though I'm currently not much active there, just waiting for the automatic betting feature to be finished)... Cool

wetsuit, how're things going? Roll Eyes

Sorry, I was not getting notifications for this topic. I have been kinda busy fighting off a bot user, just deleted 2,000 of his accounts a couple of days back and the jackass made another 5,000 or so accounts yesterday. I would really hate to put a captcha in the sign up page so trying to find workarounds to stop people like these.

Auto-betting will take another week atleast, sorry.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Wait, guys! So DOES THIS THING REALLY WORK? Huh

Are you asking whether the site pays out or not? If that's what you're asking then yes, it works. Here is a transaction that I received from them on the 22nd (mine is one of two addresses that received 0.00034735 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/tx/e692aad289251b6ba3e0eca1464d8b84d63638ba39428494cb49384bad21c5b9

I've been on the site since its early days, and it always pays out (though I'm currently not much active there, just waiting for the automatic betting feature to be finished)... Cool

wetsuit, how're things going? Roll Eyes
I am also on this site from start of this site and never have any problem with payment even some time I have very quickly payment from admin
hero member
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but from my code block above, 9999 is found often!
It's because theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000 (and you make only 10 000 tries, which is not enough to test small probabilities like those).

Can you make 100 000 or even 1 000 000 tries? That would be interesting Smiley

"theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000"

Wtf? how is that possible?
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
English ⬄ Russian Translation Services
Wait, guys! So DOES THIS THING REALLY WORK? Huh

Are you asking whether the site pays out or not? If that's what you're asking then yes, it works. Here is a transaction that I received from them on the 22nd (mine is one of two addresses that received 0.00034735 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/tx/e692aad289251b6ba3e0eca1464d8b84d63638ba39428494cb49384bad21c5b9

I've been on the site since its early days, and it always pays out (though I'm currently not much active there, just waiting for the automatic betting feature to be finished)... Cool

wetsuit, how're things going? Roll Eyes
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member
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The "roll" button is greyed out. Anyone else having this problem?

EDIT: Never mind, it's working again.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Wait, guys! So DOES THIS THING REALLY WORK? Huh

Are you asking whether the site pays out or not? If that's what you're asking then yes, it works. Here is a transaction that I received from them on the 22nd (mine is one of two addresses that received 0.00034735 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/tx/e692aad289251b6ba3e0eca1464d8b84d63638ba39428494cb49384bad21c5b9
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
Wait, guys! So DOES THIS THING REALLY WORK? Huh
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
but from my code block above, 9999 is found often!
It's because theoretically the probability to roll "9999" is 1/10000 and the probability to roll "10000" is 1/20000 (and you make only 10 000 tries, which is not enough to test small probabilities like those).

Can you make 100 000 or even 1 000 000 tries? That would be interesting Smiley


I have streamlined the code to just do counts, printing 100k rolls in a browser is going to be murder on your computer, lol
and you can get the script to count to 1 million but not in a browser, the browser itself will time out
if you run it from a php console window it should count as high as you want.

10k tries:
Code:
Jackpots: 1
10000 prize: 3
0000-9885: 9891
9886-9985: 89
9986-9993: 6
9994-9997: 5
9998-9999: 6

100k times:
Code:
Jackpots: 11
10000 prize: 9
0000-9885: 98874
9886-9985: 973
9986-9993: 85
9994-9997: 36
9998-9999: 23

second run...
Jackpots: 8
10000 prize: 10
0000-9885: 98957
9886-9985: 914
9986-9993: 71
9994-9997: 35
9998-9999: 13

Code:
set_time_limit(360); // number of seconds to run script, default is 30

$_jackpot $_10k_pz $_prize1 $_prize2 $_prize3 $_prize4 $_prize5 0;
$tries 100000//Number of tires
$c=1;// Iteration count
do {
// nonce = $c;
// 12 char server seed string, 16 char client seed string
$nhash hash_hmac('sha512',$c.':'.seed_string(12).':'.$c,$c.':'.seed_string(16).':'.$c,false);
$_no ceil(hexdec(mb_substr($nhash0))/429496.7295);

$_jackpot += ($_no == 8888);
$_10k_pz += ($_no == 10000);
$_prize1 += ($_no >= && $_no <= 9885);
$_prize2 += ($_no >= 9886 && $_no <= 9985);
$_prize3 += ($_no >= 9986 && $_no <= 9993);
$_prize4 += ($_no >= 9994 && $_no <= 9997);
$_prize5 += ($_no >= 9998 && $_no <= 9999);

$c++;
} while (
$c <= $tries);
echo 
'

[Counts out of '$tries' tries]
Jackpots: '
$_jackpot'
10000 prize: '
$_10k_pz'
0000-9885: '
$_prize1'
9886-9985: '
$_prize2'
9986-9993: '
$_prize3'
9994-9997: '
$_prize4'
9998-9999: '
$_prize5'
'
;

function 
make_rand($l,$h) {
mt_srand(make_seed());
return mt_rand($l,$h);
}
function 
make_seed() {
list($usec,$sec) = explode(' 'microtime());
return (float) $sec + ((float) $usec 65536);
}
function 
seed_string ($itr) {
$charSet 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789';
$ranStr null;

for ($i 0$i $itr$i++) {
mt_srand(make_seed());
$ranStr[] = substr($charSetmt_rand(0strlen($charSet)), 1);
}
return implode($ranStr,'');
}
?>
sr. member
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Users can now request a manual withdrawal by clicking on the MANUAL WITHDRAWAL button in the FREE PLAY page. The minimum amount required for a manual withdrawal is only 0.00006000 BTC and manual withdrawals will carry a fee of only 0.00000400 BTC!

Thanks! I've been waiting for something like this. Your other site, Freedoge.co.in had this option for a while now and it worked quite well.
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