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@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

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@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue


As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.


Thequin has given a fair reasoning there.
@garry, if you want to contact your isp to ask them to give you a new IP address then that might help you and mean you don’t have to hand it over to thequin.
Otherwise, you’ll hav pe to give your IP address to thequin to try to remove you from the database.

TheQuin already said he blocks a range of IP's, if and when it is found that it is abusing the system. A new IP from the same ISP will most probably be in the same range or subnet, so this will not help.

I respect the fact that people do not want to dox themselves, by giving out information that might help people to reveal their true identity, but then they will have to be willing to cut their losses.  Sad

Suggestion : Send a PM from another account or use the support link on the site that are not linked to information on this forum.


I mean when I did it I got a completely different range, the first number was still the same but depending on the depth of the range, Garry could request one out of it. Ranges are used for locations (supposedly), in my country most towns with a population high enough have their own range of first letter,
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I tried to see traffic to freebitco.in through a site like this:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/freebitco.in

we can see that the traffic has fallen by more than 50% in 2 months.
I dare not say that it was caused by a massive blocking carried out by TheQuin because it could also be caused by people's interest in bitcoin has declined.

Free rolls have also declined by 50% but wagering volume has remained the same.


so you block IP addresses at a certain range
based on what I know, if the IP address that you block is the IP address of the Dynamic ISP, it will make thousands or millions (depending on the range you block) of innocent IP addresses victimized because the workings of Dynamic IP addresses are random like the process of creating bitcoin addresses when randomizing the SHA-256 number as a raw private key.
That's if I don't misunderstand the word "range" that you mean.

It really depends on how the IP address database has it defined. ISPs usually have many thousands of ranges and they each vary in size. Generally speaking the average range I'm talking about when adding a block is a class C subnet of 254 usable addresses.


Suggestion : Send a PM from another account or use the support link on the site that are not linked to information on this forum.

Yes, the support email only tells me an account number and obviously the email address associated with it.
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@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

-----------------


@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue


As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.


Thequin has given a fair reasoning there.
@garry, if you want to contact your isp to ask them to give you a new IP address then that might help you and mean you don’t have to hand it over to thequin.
Otherwise, you’ll hav pe to give your IP address to thequin to try to remove you from the database.

TheQuin already said he blocks a range of IP's, if and when it is found that it is abusing the system. A new IP from the same ISP will most probably be in the same range or subnet, so this will not help.

I respect the fact that people do not want to dox themselves, by giving out information that might help people to reveal their true identity, but then they will have to be willing to cut their losses.  Sad

Suggestion : Send a PM from another account or use the support link on the site that are not linked to information on this forum.
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@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

-----------------


@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue


As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.


Thequin has given a fair reasoning there.
@garry, if you want to contact your isp to ask them to give you a new IP address then that might help you and mean you don’t have to hand it over to thequin.
Otherwise, you’ll hav pe to give your IP address to thequin to try to remove you from the database.

@Jack

thank you for your attention Jack, but no
I am not a victim of the IP address blocking that TheQuin has done
I'm just trying to report the news around me that might impact my referrals.
I am not sure about how much this will affect my referrals. because as a user we are not given facilities for that. I only know that my income is decreasing.
I tried to see traffic to freebitco.in through a site like this:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/freebitco.in

we can see that the traffic has fallen by more than 50% in 2 months.
I dare not say that it was caused by a massive blocking carried out by TheQuin because it could also be caused by people's interest in bitcoin has declined.

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..........I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification..............

@TheQuin

so you block IP addresses at a certain range
based on what I know, if the IP address that you block is the IP address of the Dynamic ISP, it will make thousands or millions (depending on the range you block) of innocent IP addresses victimized because the workings of Dynamic IP addresses are random like the process of creating bitcoin addresses when randomizing the SHA-256 number as a raw private key.
That's if I don't misunderstand the word "range" that you mean.
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Activity: 2856
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

-----------------


@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue


As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.


Thequin has given a fair reasoning there.
@garry, if you want to contact your isp to ask them to give you a new IP address then that might help you and mean you don’t have to hand it over to thequin.
Otherwise, you’ll hav pe to give your IP address to thequin to try to remove you from the database.
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C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....

That might be true overall but individual players do win as well.

More lies by omission.  Par for the course.  Players DO NOT WIN.  They can only be successful using the right tools (https://dlive.tv/btctrading is a good example),  but they certainly CAN NEVER "win" as in coming out on top due to some "contest" or miraculous single bet.  In order to do that,  one would have to come to this shithole,  win enough to be ahead and then NEVER return.  So you're saying thats the type of player you want to use as an example player of the site?  One that no longer even exists?  Ya ok whatever,  thats gotta be GREAT for business lmfao.  Get it straight.  Just because someone gets a SINGLE "win" as you are referring to,  you're ignoring all the LOSSES that they will take or have already taken up to that point.  The "Wagering contest" is a PERFECT example of people who "win" but actually LOSE.  Yet you call them "winners" which is imo utterly disgusting.  That contest needs to be renamed to "The biggest losers contest".  And trying to say "Some of them win" is an out right LIE because it cant be proven whether they won more than they've put in or not.  Therefore the ONLY solution is to assume the MATH got them and they LOST.

Therefore the statement "Some people win" is a complete lie because all it does is try to cover up the fact that 99.99999999999999% of all players LOSE.  Who cares if there has been 1 person in the history of the site who came in,  put 100K sats and won with 0.02 odds,  and walked away never to be seen again.  If that has even EVER happened (which I'll wager it has NOT).  If it did happen,  I'd also put money on the fact the player stayed and ended up losing it all,  including the 100K sats they put in right along with it.  Therefore,  even that player is a loser,  not a "winner" as you would label it.

This means that the statement "The house always wins in the end" is 100% ACCURATE.  There is no asterisk necessary with "some people do win" because thats just FALSE.  You could replace it with "some people are successful" though because that doesnt insinuate that they always win.  It also means they could have taken losses but despite those losses,  they have been successful,  for the time being.  Anyone whos been in business knows that it takes losses in order to be successful.  This is why when you ask a wealthy person who owns a business how they "won",  they'd look at you like you were completely stupid and say "You mean successful?".

Look at it this way.  Your odds of "winning" at ANY casino that has a house edge of any kind are less than those of ALL the lotteries in the world.  Combined and multiplied by 100000.  Because your odds of winning are literally 0.  In the end,  its the house that always wins.  Anyone who says otherwise is just lying to you.
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@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

-----------------


@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue


As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.
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I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.


Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic.  Huh

I asked twice but without a clue to even which ISP he's talking about I can't look into the complaint. There are databases of IP addresses with location, ISP and usage type. I can also look at the usage we get from any particular network and it is pretty easy to see where there are large amounts of abuse going on.



@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

-----------------


@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue
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C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....
Also C'mon man, no one says you shoud win, no one says casino is a great way of money making for gamblers, no one says deposit much and much or play here to be rich. All they say is that you have to gamble just for fun, it's another task what you do and what you expect from casino. So don't blame others for it, you do everything on your own.
TheQuin
How is thr contest going? Haven't received email for a while.

It's going very well. This month has had a bit of a runaway leader for a while so less action to follow, but overall good levels again. We don't like to spam too many emails to you  Wink
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C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....
Also C'mon man, no one says you shoud win, no one says casino is a great way of money making for gamblers, no one says deposit much and much or play here to be rich. All they say is that you have to gamble just for fun, it's another task what you do and what you expect from casino. So don't blame others for it, you do everything on your own.
TheQuin
How is thr contest going? Haven't received email for a while.
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C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....

That might be true overall but individual players do win as well.
hero member
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I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.


Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic.  Huh

I asked twice but without a clue to even which ISP he's talking about I can't look into the complaint. There are databases of IP addresses with location, ISP and usage type. I can also look at the usage we get from any particular network and it is pretty easy to see where there are large amounts of abuse going on.



lol, bro~

This is not the village idiot's shitbot thread. Please respect the forum rules and go and discuss it somewhere else.
legendary
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I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.


Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic.  Huh
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The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.
lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak

He was betting 7x and it is quite remarkable that only 51 is the longest he managed to get.
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The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.
lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak
jr. member
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The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.
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I know how the system works, I designed it, and it won't do what you are saying. Tell me what ISP and IP addresses you think are blocked.
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I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.
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Hi TheQuin

It seems like you have trouble distinguishing botnets and genuine users
Did you know, you have recently blocked the biggest ISP in our country (they claim to have more than 150 million customers)

I heard from some of my friends that they cannot log in to freebitco.in, but this only happens to one ISP
then I tried to register an account with that ISP and after a few hours, the new account I registered could not log in, so I concluded that you blocked the ISP.

Actually I also use the same ISP but on premium services that use a static IP address so there is no problem with my account.
but I suspect this also makes my income as a referrer fall dramatically because I think many of my referrals use that ISP, but I don't know for sure.

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.
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Hi TheQuin

It seems like you have trouble distinguishing botnets and genuine users
Did you know, you have recently blocked the biggest ISP in our country (they claim to have more than 150 million customers)

I heard from some of my friends that they cannot log in to freebitco.in, but this only happens to one ISP
then I tried to register an account with that ISP and after a few hours, the new account I registered could not log in, so I concluded that you blocked the ISP.

Actually I also use the same ISP but on premium services that use a static IP address so there is no problem with my account.
but I suspect this also makes my income as a referrer fall dramatically because I think many of my referrals use that ISP, but I don't know for sure.
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