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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.

If I'm not wrong, I didn't see any maximum limit for storing your coins on their site. They only tell us the minimum amount you need to have in your account to start earning interest and that is at least 30,000 satoshi (0.0003 BTC).

Logically if you think people will not risk their 1000 BTC to earn just 4% profit from online wallet because if something goes wrong there is no guarantee for their 1000 BTC. As per current market price, 1000 BTC (6491010.00 USD) is a lot of money.

That's correct. There is no maximum limit but the reality means that it is unlikely anyone would deposit an amount that large anywhere.
legendary
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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.

If I'm not wrong, I didn't see any maximum limit for storing your coins on their site. They only tell us the minimum amount you need to have in your account to start earning interest and that is at least 30,000 satoshi (0.0003 BTC).

Logically if you think people will not risk their 1000 BTC to earn just 4% profit from online wallet because if something goes wrong there is no guarantee for their 1000 BTC. As per current market price, 1000 BTC (6491010.00 USD) is a lot of money.
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There must be a maximum limit that can earn interest, right? If someone were to park 1000 btc with Freebitcoin for a year, no way you pay out 40.8 btc in interest.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
I don't even think its brute forced. My computing teacher showed us how to get the keys by looking through some of the requests that got sent to the server when you successfully enter the captcha.



You'll all be interested to know that, yet again, I didn't win in the lottery.
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For those that missed it, a happy lottery winner posted this in our other thread.

Congratulations! you have won the first prize of 0.42287693 BTC in the weekly lottery draw at FreeBitco.in! The amount you won has been added to your balance on the website and can be withdrawn anytime.

thank you Smiley
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They say AI is advancing greatly but I'm not convinced, most bots will still be bound to automated scripts and google should be able to avoid that.    I think they also want to avoid inconvenience as its a standardised system

I'm not convinced that anything as sophisticated as AI is required for reCAPTCHA, I've been told they break it with good old fashioned brute force. Even with that being the case it is still the best captcha available at the moment.

This is why TheQuack should not be allowed to speak on anything technical.  Whoever gave him that line of bruteforce garbage is just blowing smoke up his ass (that would be wetsuit trying to hide the fact that he'll never be able to stop bots from solving recaptcha,  ever,  IDK why he even bothers to try,  it's pointless).  The way a bot defeats reCaptcha is very very easy.  It's called a Human Farm (which a bot utilizes via an API).  Here is an example:  https://anti-captcha.com/mainpage  (Scroll down to where it says:  We assign a worker for your captcha and you'll see what a Human Farm is used for)

It doesnt take a genius to figure out why ReCaptcha is outdated.  The best way to fix the problem is to remove the feature that is attracting bots and requires any kind of captcha in the first place.  Problem solved.

BTW,  all this "We're trying to stop bots" non-sense,  is just that.  Complete utter non-sense.  This place uses bots as an excuse to bump up revenue of the site by making it sound like it's some huge battle,  when it really isnt.  It's all just smoke an mirrors.  The only thing this freebitco shit does is steal your BTC right out from under you.  Plain and simple.  As the saying goes:  Money flows from the stupid people to the rich people for the same reasons that water flows down a waterfall.  Intelligence in this case is also gravity.  The more intelligence you have,  the richer you are.  The dumber you are,  the poorer you become.  So while Wetsuit has a nice river of idiots filling the river of stupidity,  I just fill my jugs as the idiots money floats by with my dice bot that people use (yet I'm the bad guy, LMFAO).  Meanwhile Wetsuit is making his own little vacation island with all these idiot's capitol.  For example,  how about this complete moron thats at the top of the wagering scam this month,  what moron wagers over 300BTC.  Dude is so far ahead of everyone else that it's blatantly clear he lost everything and is trying to win it back.  Bro..... ITS NOT COMIN BACK.  LMFAO.
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LOTTERY ROUND 173
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #6 with 1,109 tickets.
#1 won 0.42287693 BTC with 71,599,431 tickets.
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Its not a massive deal and actually it just lets me simply tick the box alot of the time.   But the confusing part of recaptcha is when it says pick the boxes with cars or signs and there is a main box with the object but also a tiny sliver of the sign or car on a second box below it.   So is it testing me or should I just pick the main box where its displayed.
 Now I think about it I'm pretty sure I should ignore the sliver of object as its very common I have to re enter my attempt again.  Or maybe it'll always ask me to complete more then one test.   

I still prefer the pick boxes over having to write a word or some silly imaginary equation, again if theres two texts over written I'm never sure which they want me to write.   My intelligence must be artificial :p

If you get just the box to tick and no challenge that means that Google has whitelisted you. I get that when I'm logged into my Google account but I get a challenge in an incognito browser window. The bit about whether or not to select a square that just has a little bit of the object in is subjective. Google don't program in answers but they actually learn the correct response from people filling it in. You just need to give the same answer that most other people gave.
STT
legendary
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Its not a massive deal and actually it just lets me simply tick the box alot of the time.   But the confusing part of recaptcha is when it says pick the boxes with cars or signs and there is a main box with the object but also a tiny sliver of the sign or car on a second box below it.   So is it testing me or should I just pick the main box where its displayed.
 Now I think about it I'm pretty sure I should ignore the sliver of object as its very common I have to re enter my attempt again.  Or maybe it'll always ask me to complete more then one test.   

I still prefer the pick boxes over having to write a word or some silly imaginary equation, again if theres two texts over written I'm never sure which they want me to write.   My intelligence must be artificial :p
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They say AI is advancing greatly but I'm not convinced, most bots will still be bound to automated scripts and google should be able to avoid that.    I think they also want to avoid inconvenience as its a standardised system

I'm not convinced that anything as sophisticated as AI is required for reCAPTCHA, I've been told they break it with good old fashioned brute force. Even with that being the case it is still the best captcha available at the moment.

In some instances it is actually too good, because it beats me some times.  Grin In more than one instance, I had to re-do the Captcha 2 or 3 times, because it wants me to skip it and then re-do it again. I also get some funny things with it, when I use it over a link with low bandwidth.  Huh

I can see how AI would struggle with solving reCAPTCHA, so this is a good bet to use them.  Grin

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They say AI is advancing greatly but I'm not convinced, most bots will still be bound to automated scripts and google should be able to avoid that.    I think they also want to avoid inconvenience as its a standardised system

I'm not convinced that anything as sophisticated as AI is required for reCAPTCHA, I've been told they break it with good old fashioned brute force. Even with that being the case it is still the best captcha available at the moment.
legendary
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LOTTERY ROUND 172
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #2 with 214 tickets.
#1 won 0.40743557 BTC with 722 tickets.

Urgh, I know. This keeps making me feel tempted to go ahead and buy 3000 tickets with my remaining rewards points, stored up since forever. I mean, if a guy can win it with 2 tickets several rounds ago and we keep seeing below 1000 tickets winning the big prizes, I stand a chance right?

But every time I visit the lottery page and see my chance of winning, and I try to multiply by 3000 or so, it's not even 0.1%, so I change my mind haha.

Goes back to grinding rewards points.

I have ~2000 tickets this round...
That's 0.016% win chance.
You'd have to spend about 3mbtc in order to get to 1% by the end of each round...

I'm thinking to just grind a lot and then at least get 10k tix from all my rewards, and then by then use my balance to just play dice multiplier and limit losses, just to get free tickets. I already have quite a bit lost from that when I was impatient months ago and busting so now trying to stick to grinding. Meanwhile who knows, I hit with double digit ticks. Just a way to pass the time on mobile to be honest. Don't lose anything and don't expect anything and my life is less stressful!
STT
legendary
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I disagree. Dropping the house edge will pull the customer base you should be targeting,

I disagree with your disagreement.
lol

Sounds alot like an inverse curve setup where revenue is presumed to rise from a removal of any restriction to its free flow.    That might well apply in a wider economy with no bias but also I think its easily possible it does not apply in this case.  They say they have tested both scenarios,  its a reasonable idea but I dont think its automatically the case they would receive higher player numbers as you suggest, the reason being the source of customers is not clear cut in this case.    The source may not be effected by this fee in the way anticipated and its the case the site is based around the free draw more then expected.  

There are design flaws in the way reCAPTCHA works IMO. Unfortunately, only Google can address that and even if they did it would only make life a little more difficult for the bots. If a human can solve it then a bot can be programmed to solve it.

They say AI is advancing greatly but I'm not convinced, most bots will still be bound to automated scripts and google should be able to avoid that.    I think they also want to avoid inconvenience as its a standardised system
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There are design flaws in the way reCAPTCHA works IMO. Unfortunately, only Google can address that and even if they did it would only make life a little more difficult for the bots.
I mean not about recaptcha
I propose making a new type of captcha with a special design for freebitco.in
I am sure wetsuit can make it, it's just about he has time or not

If a human can solve it then a bot can be programmed to solve it.

in this era I think there are still significant differences between bot and human
therefore I am very optimistic if there are ways to stop botnets that exploit free rolls

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may I know, how much is the average BTC paid by Freebitco.in to pay for free rolls game in 1 week ?
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*if this happens then to fight them we must make changes continuously until we find good innovations to fight botnets


There are design flaws in the way reCAPTCHA works IMO. Unfortunately, only Google can address that and even if they did it would only make life a little more difficult for the bots. If a human can solve it then a bot can be programmed to solve it.
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I think it will be complicated for them because they have to make a new type of captcha service.

It will be a lot easier to program a bot read the balance and calculate the checksum than it would for a human to do so. It's as complicated as adding half a dozen lines of code.

Yes, it is true.
therefore we still have to add captcha images to create uniqueness
the function of the last digit of the balance is just to make sure that someone who completes the captcha can see the balance of his account
because what happens now is that botnets send captcha that has the same type as captcha used by millions of other sites

the difficulty I mean is for captcha solver companies, which provide captcha workers.
if you accept my suggestion there will be 2 possibilities

# 1. if the captcha coming from freebitco.in is not big enough for their income, they will not adjust to that change and the botnets that depend on them will no longer automate free rolls game.
that way, number of botnets that exploit free rolls game will decrease
the rest are only botnets who have their own captcha workers and for this type of botnets it is certainly 100% of their income from freebitco.in if they only target freebitco.in and this one cannot be kicked using this method*)

# 2. but if the captcha coming from freebitco.in is big enough for their income, then they will adjust the change and make a special captcha for freebitco.in*)

*if this happens then to fight them we must make changes continuously until we find good innovations to fight botnets
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
LOTTERY ROUND 172
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #2 with 214 tickets.
#1 won 0.40743557 BTC with 722 tickets.

Urgh, I know. This keeps making me feel tempted to go ahead and buy 3000 tickets with my remaining rewards points, stored up since forever. I mean, if a guy can win it with 2 tickets several rounds ago and we keep seeing below 1000 tickets winning the big prizes, I stand a chance right?

But every time I visit the lottery page and see my chance of winning, and I try to multiply by 3000 or so, it's not even 0.1%, so I change my mind haha.

Goes back to grinding rewards points.

I have ~2000 tickets this round...
That's 0.016% win chance.
You'd have to spend about 3mbtc in order to get to 1% by the end of each round...
legendary
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LOTTERY ROUND 172
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #2 with 214 tickets.
#1 won 0.40743557 BTC with 722 tickets.

Urgh, I know. This keeps making me feel tempted to go ahead and buy 3000 tickets with my remaining rewards points, stored up since forever. I mean, if a guy can win it with 2 tickets several rounds ago and we keep seeing below 1000 tickets winning the big prizes, I stand a chance right?

But every time I visit the lottery page and see my chance of winning, and I try to multiply by 3000 or so, it's not even 0.1%, so I change my mind haha.

Goes back to grinding rewards points.
legendary
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Its a very low amount it is better if you increase it a little bit. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Dont expect too much from a free faucet, you are lucky enough freebitcoin still give you chance to earn free satoshi every hour up to $200. You also has a chance to win something bigger for free as well through the lottery. So take the opportunity while you cant find it in other places.
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Its a very low amount it is better if you increase it a little bit. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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