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Topic: FreiCoin (FRC) discussion (was FreiCoin (FRC) for TRC, PPC, LTC or BTC) - page 20. (Read 42655 times)

legendary
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Freicoin complements Bitcoin in a way very different than Litecoin. Bitcoin is designed to be a better gold than gold itself, and so we can surmise that switching to bitcoin as a day-to-day currency would be similar to a reversion to the gold standard. The Austrian school of economics is the only framework I know of that actually considers gold as a currency to be good thing. Austrian economics may be popular on this forum and among crypto-libertarians in general, but it's actually not a mainstream position. In fact, most economists would consider it obsolete/discredited, but them be fighting words here Wink

Now don't mistake the above as an apology for central-banker regulated Keynesian inflationary currency. Freicoin is a third option: a currency which is intrinsically perishable was shown first by Gesell and then later Bernard Lietaer and others to be fair for both consumers and merchants, recession-proof, and otherwise solve the problems inherent in both inflationary and deflationary currencies. Freicoin is the medium of exchange bitcoin will never be, but even if freicoin completely supplants bitcoin as the currency of the future (as I obviously think it will), bitcoin will remain a premier vehicle for wealth storage.

Freicoin and Bitcoin fulfill two completely different purposes, although Bitcoin has until now been marketed as serving the same purpose so confusion is inevitable.



Freicoin is not pre-mined in the sense that previous alt-chains have been. It does however set aside 80% of the initial distribution to hard-coded addresses that are currently kept in cold storage. These funds will also be distributed by means of Freicoin Foundation grants. In the next few weeks we'll have a website setup where people can submit and comment on proposals in the categories of economic development and/or charitable work. At regular intervals we'll pick and fund diverse set of proposals until the entire fund is used up. This is just a different way of handling the initial distribution.

@subSTRATA, there will be conflict-of-interest guidelines for dealing with core developers/foundation staff who submit grant proposals.
hero member
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So the premine and demurrage go to an unclaimable address, which goes back to the miners.

One question, how many blocks were reserved for the premined coins?

I want to know for my maths Smiley
sr. member
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Gold bars would just logically be large sums of Bitcoins, furthermore I see no need for coins that are otherwise the same as Bitcoin but with the decimal point moved left or right.  LTC at least aims to be different on technical grounds by using different Hashing functions, people are rightly skeptical of clones that do not have any technological or monetary differences.

The best analogy for Freicoin is a perishable commodity like grain.  The premise of Freicoin is that a fair exchange is created when perishable goods and services (basically everything we actually make, use or consume) are exchanged for perishable money.
sr. member
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I think that as many people want an alt-coin to succeed it will. We have bitcoin as gold, litecoin as bitcoin's silver, so what we need at the moment is an altcoin to be the gold bars of both, one coin that even 0.00001 means something, and its the people (us?) that set the value (subject to other factors ofcourse). Also i think that its a good thing that many alt coins have came to the surface so one must be successful. I want both of them to succeed

Either way, if anyone wants to trade trc for frc, or trc for ltc im here, just pm me Smiley
legendary
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Is there any usage of Freicoin at the moment? Many alt coins start off with speculation (and unfortunately stay there) but with Freicoin losing value over time does this mean current speculators are hoping something will happen real soon or there coins will disappear? Or am I misunderstanding how Freicoin works?
hero member
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I've been getting bids for 1,000FRC at 0.5BTC or 85LTC which I have been filling. These seem a fair initial price with each FRC being valued at slightly over half a cent.

The current difficulty is 256, this will soon go up to 1,024 as the difficulty moves in the power of four.

I'm not accepting TRC as payment at the moment as TRC price has dropped and I'm wondering how viable it will be now that the very interesting FRC is out.
sr. member
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1BTC or 170 for 1000 Freicoins.

My address is below but please message first to check that I have enough Freicoin. I currently have 3000FRC with more being mined all the time. I have my farm set to Freicoins only at the moment.

BTC: 1JQmqFzA7hoDemJUaTao6y6GdhbyFqdko8
LTC: LTgGQUQSFJmiNWMnwsg9TpjE1uJTdwjPLh

Sorry to ask again, price in trc???
sr. member
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Greetings Fellow Freicoiners, I'm a follower and contributor to the Freicoin discussion forums (and if I ever stop playing League of Legends long enough I'll do some code too).  Its great to see this coin being launched and I have the highest hopes for it and for the monetary theories of Silvio Gessel which guides it.  If anyone is still curious about these theories I'd be very happy to help explain them on our IRC channel #freicoin (Freenode).
legendary
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what's the current difficulty?


The difficulty would appear to be 256.

Code:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Freicoin\daemon>freicoind getdifficulty
256.00000000


thanks for that Smiley
hero member
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what's the current difficulty?


The difficulty would appear to be 256.

Code:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Freicoin\daemon>freicoind getdifficulty
256.00000000
legendary
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what's the current difficulty?
hero member
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But I am not really awake yet so maybe I am seeing it a wrong way round or something.

-MarkM-

I'm guessing that bit of maths was pre-coffee Smiley

I now have a lot of these coins. Over the last 40 blocks I've solved I have found every 6th block going by the mean. It actually works out to every 5.9 blocks exactly.

Don't suppose anyone is going to build a Freicoin escrow?
full member
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Hmm weird, offer on Vircurex right now says BTC/LTC    0.00581002 which looks to me as if it means one litecoin is 5.81002 thousandths of a bitcoin, and that is offer, not ask. SO I do not know how 170 litecoins per thousand comes out as in any way similar to one bitcoin per thousand.

But I am not really awake yet so maybe I am seeing it a wrong way round or something.

A bitcoin per thousand freicoin sounds like a decent enough price to me that it could pry a few thousand freicoin lose from my cold dead hands or even when I actually do wake up my warm ones.

-MarkM-


170 * 0.00581002 = 0.9877034 btc

I have several freicoins as well if someone is interested.

legendary
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Hmm weird, offer on Vircurex right now says BTC/LTC    0.00581002 which looks to me as if it means one litecoin is 5.81002 thousandths of a bitcoin, and that is offer, not ask. SO I do not know how 170 litecoins per thousand comes out as in any way similar to one bitcoin per thousand.

But I am not really awake yet so maybe I am seeing it a wrong way round or something.

A bitcoin per thousand freicoin sounds like a decent enough price to me that it could pry a few thousand freicoin lose from my cold dead hands or even when I actually do wake up my warm ones.

-MarkM-
member
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I have FRC for sale in lots of 100s. I have more than 1000. Message me if you are interested.

What is their value? Your price for an "100" lot?
I will sell at 0.1 BTC or 17 LTC.
sr. member
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I have FRC for sale in lots of 100s. I have more than 1000. Message me if you are interested.

What is their value? Your price for an "100" lot?
hero member
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I have FRC for sale in lots of 100s. I have more than 1000. Message me if you are interested.
legendary
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Where can I download a miner for this?

You can use any SHA 256 coin miner you use for BTC/PPC/TRC.

Just use port 8638.
There's also a p2pool instance up at http://pool.freico.in:9638
legendary
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Where can I download a miner for this?

You can use any SHA 256 coin miner you use for BTC/PPC/TRC.

Just use port 8638.

legendary
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Where can I download a miner for this?
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