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Quote from: posi on January 08, 2023, 04:43:04 AM

If it is about Troyes vs Marseille I think Marseille is going to be the winner in this match. I obviously do not think that just because Troyes being in the 13th position makes them weak. I believe that Marseille is generally better than them in terms of the quality of the team. And if we look at the form of both teams, we will be able to see that Marseille is in far better form compared to Troyes.

So I do not believe that Marseille is going to lose this match. Troyes is going to be confident because they are coming on the back of a win recently. But their last opponent was a team in the relegation zone. So this match is going to be harder compared to the last one.

There is no guarantee that the stronger team will always win the match. in this case Troyes vs Marseille, on paper after all Marseille is better than Troyes and everyone knows that. but when on the field later, anything can happen, including Troyes being able to overthrow Marseille.

But anyway, i agree with you. supposedly, this match is not a difficult match for Marseille to win. moreover, from H2H history, Marseille has always dominated every meeting of these two teams. besides, Igor Tudor is currently only focusing his squad on Ligue 1. Marseille is aiming for victory, to catch up on the point difference from the top standings and is only 4 points adrift of Lens which is ranked 2nd in Ligue 1.

As for Troyes, even though they play as home team. even so, to keep up with the players from Igor Tudor's squad seems very difficult. but, that doesn't mean that Troyes can easily be overthrown by Marseille.
Troyes also had a winning match in their previous match, and used that as motivation against Marseille at their own base.

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Quote from: slaman29 on January 08, 2023, 09:16:27 AM

Seems I'm going to try pay attention to some of the picks here as I failed miserably in my Coupe matches yesterday. I know cups are never quite the same situation as league games because of different stakes, but usually in France you feel that the favorites are way too strong for lower leagues (and yet upsets happen all the time).

We always have the feeling that a team playing in a superior league is always better than a team playing in a lower one until we see the opposite result happening. It will be more shocking when a top team in the first league is defeated by unknown one!
Clermont, Nice, Monaco failed that way Lips sealed

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Seems I'm going to try pay attention to some of the picks here as I failed miserably in my Coupe matches yesterday. I know cups are never quite the same situation as league games because of different stakes, but usually in France you feel that the favorites are way too strong for lower leagues (and yet upsets happen all the time).

Midweek three picks: Monaco ML, PSG handicap -1.5, Marseille Double Chance!!

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Quote from: Raflesia on January 08, 2023, 07:23:27 AM

Quote from: posi on January 08, 2023, 04:43:04 AM

If it is about Troyes vs Marseille I think Marseille is going to be the winner in this match. I obviously do not think that just because Troyes being in the 13th position makes them weak. I believe that Marseille is generally better than them in terms of the quality of the team. And if we look at the form of both teams, we will be able to see that Marseille is in far better form compared to Troyes.

So I do not believe that Marseille is going to lose this match. Troyes is going to be confident because they are coming on the back of a win recently. But their last opponent was a team in the relegation zone. So this match is going to be harder compared to the last one.

Conditions are quite different for these two teams.
Marseille before and after the break are still showing quite good performance so far and even their first 2 matches in Ligue 1 they managed to win but I think they need to overcome some problems like when you see the condition of the players who are always provoked to play hard.
Their last 2 matches in Ligue 1 and in the Fench Cup were always red cards and of course this is not very good.
But indeed, to fight Troyes in this match, of course Marsille is on paper to be the winner, especially considering Troyes' current performance, which is still experiencing inconsistencies.

I saw it against Montpellier, Marseille players are very hard, even the keeper Lopez this guy can't do that. It's fair he got a yellow card and Montpellier got a penalty kick, agree Marseille players should not be provoked, because it will make them lose later when against other strongs teams. In 5 head to head matches Troyes vs Marseille, indeed on paper team Marseille more ahead, so that possibility Marseille will not lose a points in that match.

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Quote from: posi on January 08, 2023, 04:43:04 AM

If it is about Troyes vs Marseille I think Marseille is going to be the winner in this match. I obviously do not think that just because Troyes being in the 13th position makes them weak. I believe that Marseille is generally better than them in terms of the quality of the team. And if we look at the form of both teams, we will be able to see that Marseille is in far better form compared to Troyes.

So I do not believe that Marseille is going to lose this match. Troyes is going to be confident because they are coming on the back of a win recently. But their last opponent was a team in the relegation zone. So this match is going to be harder compared to the last one.

Conditions are quite different for these two teams.
Marseille before and after the break are still showing quite good performance so far and even their first 2 matches in Ligue 1 they managed to win but I think they need to overcome some problems like when you see the condition of the players who are always provoked to play hard.
Their last 2 matches in Ligue 1 and in the Fench Cup were always red cards and of course this is not very good.
But indeed, to fight Troyes in this match, of course Marsille is on paper to be the winner, especially considering Troyes' current performance, which is still experiencing inconsistencies.

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Quote from: mendace on January 08, 2023, 04:42:16 AM

Ruslan Malinovskyi is a new O. Marseille player on a permanent basis. I think he's a formidable signing, he's a great player and he's proven it time and time again. I'm sure that in Marseille they will be able to make good use of his skills. Among other things, he is a young player and can still improve.

It looks like Marseille has got a player of a mature age and is playing quite well for Atalanta, Ruslan Malinovskyi plays as an attacking midfielder, of course that will be very helpful in attack. Looking at the current position of the Marseille standings, refreshing new players is really needed to achieve better results and Marseille still has a chance to compete to win Ligue 1 this season.

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I like this version of marseille after the break a lot more they performed well in their first game winning with a huge score and performing well next they will face troyes one of the bottom teams but they sometimes show excelent performance like when they have beaten monaco so marseille team should be carefull especially against teams in danger of relegation, the odds for marseille win are good and i think that's what will happen.

Do you think the team in position 13 in the standings is the bottom team? Also, do you think because Troyes is in 13th position then Troyes is in danger of being relegated?
Because I think, even though Troyes only has a five-point gap with the team in the relegation zone, I believe Troyes will be able to secure their position to stay in Ligue 1.
Because even if for example in the match against Marseille and then Troyes loses, I'm sure that for the next matches Troyes will be able to produce good points.
Also, so far Troyes when playing at home seems that Troyes has more often drawn draws but yes, at this moment it looks like Marseille is in his best form so this match is still possible for Marseille to win.

If it is about Troyes vs Marseille I think Marseille is going to be the winner in this match. I obviously do not think that just because Troyes being in the 13th position makes them weak. I believe that Marseille is generally better than them in terms of the quality of the team. And if we look at the form of both teams, we will be able to see that Marseille is in far better form compared to Troyes.

So I do not believe that Marseille is going to lose this match. Troyes is going to be confident because they are coming on the back of a win recently. But their last opponent was a team in the relegation zone. So this match is going to be harder compared to the last one.

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Ruslan Malinovskyi is a new O. Marseille player on a permanent basis. I think he's a formidable signing, he's a great player and he's proven it time and time again. I'm sure that in Marseille they will be able to make good use of his skills. Among other things, he is a young player and can still improve.

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Quote from: snipie on January 06, 2023, 07:25:44 PM

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i think Strasbourg know a thing or two about Lens and can be dangerous against them, i would doubt Lens beating Strasbourg easily, what i'm considering in this match is both teams to score, i find it really fair since Strasbourg always crack the code of Lens defense.

Strasbourg this season is very weak, at the opposite of Lens, where it plays good football. I doubt Strasbourg could win them, their best hope is to get a draw imo.
In the French Cup matches, I saw Ligue 1 teams losing vs weaker team in Ligue 2 or maybe worse

of course, surprises happen from time to time, and especially in Cup matches, in Strasbourg vs Lens i find it hard to see a big surprise there and my prediction is for both teams to score, and the odds are pretty good @1.77 , based on their h2h matches and Lens being really good this season i can see them both scoring in this match.

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This season is quite interesting in terms of the positions except the lead. Lens are fighting with PSG for the league title as the gap has become only four points after PSG's loss against Lens recently. PSG would still dominate the season at some point of course. But for now I'm just enjoying the "title race". Lens have done a good job so far.

I wonder how long Lens can maintain their performance. I don't doubt their ambition but it feels like they can't maintain this until the end of the season. Lille are a good example but Lens might not manage to do a similar work.

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Quote from: MuffinMaster on January 07, 2023, 01:35:59 PM

Monaco have a one-goal lead so far. They are trying hard to win the match. Also the opposition is trying hard to attack to pay for the goal. However, looking at the state of the game, it is clear that Monaco is more likely to win.

Hot favourite Monaco knocked out from Coupe de France by Rodez which is currently in relegation zone of Ligue 2 amazing stuff happening in this cup even at the end of first half Monaco was leading by 2 - 1 but in second half 80th minute goal from Rodez defender was enough for having match into extra time when they won by 3 - 2 which is good for them.

But, Monaco is still good in Ligue 1 as they are at the fifth spot with looking for place into top three which is not easy because currently Lens, Marseille and Rennes all are looking good and Monaco next challenge is against Lorient which was struggling before break but now having good start after the break hopefully Monaco will through pass this challenge and trying their best for having better rank at the end of this season in presence of top quality teams.

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Quote from: Ratash on January 07, 2023, 12:49:53 PM

I like this version of marseille after the break a lot more they performed well in their first game winning with a huge score and performing well next they will face troyes one of the bottom teams but they sometimes show excelent performance like when they have beaten monaco so marseille team should be carefull especially against teams in danger of relegation, the odds for marseille win are good and i think that's what will happen.

After the break Marseille performance is surely much improved, and they are doing good job for having better rank as now Lens is at the second spot and after beating PSG now it's not easy for any team to challenge them because in next round all top teams are facing relatively weaker sides which mean we are not going to have any change.

So, things are now interested in league table with gape is narrow between PSG and Lens with Marseille is also improving performance which is giving them good chance for going near the top two teams Rennes and Monaco are also in chase which will create good entertainment for the fans here in this match most chances Marseille will keep their momentum and not allow opponents for having any chance to give them challenge and steal any point.

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Quote from: rendravolt on January 06, 2023, 11:17:10 PM

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I think this head to head doesn't really matter now.
The reason is quite clear because Strasbourg this season and last season are very different and Lens is the same. They are like 2 clubs with a real difference in conditions at the moment. Last season in the 2 meetings that took place Strasbourg might indeed be very favored but for now with the condition of their performance and the current weakness of their defense I think this head to head has no impact whatsoever for Lens who is currently in high confidence.

Indeed, in this match Lens is very favored, I also have the same belief that Lens will win against Strasbourg. But on the other hand, let's forget about the second H2H for a moment, Strasbourg also doesn't want to lose because they are currently in the relegation zone and don't want to go down to ligue 2.

The problem is how they win. Mentally at this time they lost, from a club perspective they also lost and from a players point of view it is clear that at this time they can still be said to have lost.
It's hard for Strasbourg now.
The advantage they currently have is playing at home and of course this is a bit of moral support for them even though this will not have too much of an impact.
I think these results are already showing for Lens.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 06, 2023, 11:32:52 PM

Even though Strasbourg knows where Lens's weaknesses are, Lens knows better where Strasbourg's weaknesses are this season. Yes, they can easily find out with the negative results that Strasbourg always gets. Being in 19th place with 8 defeats and conceding 31 goals is a weakness that can already be seen clearly. I mean they don't have a well organized team so they lose easily like that.
Meanwhile, on the other hand Lens just beat Paris Saint Germain in their match last week, that will make the morale of the Lens players increase sharply because they can beat the club which is the strongest club in Ligue 1.

But I feel like even Strasbourg and Lens understand each other's weakness and plus points but with the current form and quality I have feeling most chances Lens will be able to have win in this match because they are giving consistently good performance and their quality is also at their best specially after beating PSG at home they can feel proud which is plus point on other side Strasbourg is having one of the worst defense and their performance is also not good with in last ten matches they have only 1 win which mean it's hard job for them.

Mostly Strasbourg having good performance in Ligue 1 but in this season from early rounds they are giving the worst performance and never been able to handle things on positive way which give them better result and having any hope for the coming out of the relegation zone which is surely strange thing happen in this season with them.

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Quote from: Ratash on January 07, 2023, 12:49:53 PM

I like this version of marseille after the break a lot more they performed well in their first game winning with a huge score and performing well next they will face troyes one of the bottom teams but they sometimes show excelent performance like when they have beaten monaco so marseille team should be carefull especially against teams in danger of relegation, the odds for marseille win are good and i think that's what will happen.

Marseille managed to perform well. All the team is doing great performance. The best part is that the understanding of each team player is very good, due to which they are able to perform well.

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Quote from: snipie on January 06, 2023, 07:25:44 PM

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i think Strasbourg know a thing or two about Lens and can be dangerous against them, i would doubt Lens beating Strasbourg easily, what i'm considering in this match is both teams to score, i find it really fair since Strasbourg always crack the code of Lens defense.

Strasbourg this season is very weak, at the opposite of Lens, where it plays good football. I doubt Strasbourg could win them, their best hope is to get a draw imo.
In the French Cup matches, I saw Ligue 1 teams losing vs weaker team in Ligue 2 or maybe worse

Lens currently needs points in every match to maintain the stability of competition with Paris Saint-Germain in first place in the standings. However Strasbourg has a home record where they managed to draw against Marseille and Lorient, the next match against Lens Strasbourg will play as host.
A draw still seems very likely

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Quote from: judas on January 07, 2023, 01:31:17 PM

Monaco are still having difficulties in this season as well. They are far away from their old times as they can't even get into any title competition in the league. They look worse than the previous season as well for now. But it is in their hands to change this. Their recent form is not bad actually. They need to maintain it as much as possible. They need to improve their performance in big matches as well. For example they lost to Marseille in a home match recently. They need to decrease the loss of points to minimum.

Maybe they wouldn't be able to fight for the championship while PSG are this much dominant. But they can at least have a chance to qualify for the Champions League groups directly if they finish in second position.

Monaco have a one-goal lead so far. They are trying hard to win the match. Also the opposition is trying hard to attack to pay for the goal. However, looking at the state of the game, it is clear that Monaco is more likely to win.

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Monaco are still having difficulties in this season as well. They are far away from their old times as they can't even get into any title competition in the league. They look worse than the previous season as well for now. But it is in their hands to change this. Their recent form is not bad actually. They need to maintain it as much as possible. They need to improve their performance in big matches as well. For example they lost to Marseille in a home match recently. They need to decrease the loss of points to minimum.

Maybe they wouldn't be able to fight for the championship while PSG are this much dominant. But they can at least have a chance to qualify for the Champions League groups directly if they finish in second position.

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Quote from: snipie on January 06, 2023, 07:25:44 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on January 06, 2023, 06:52:04 PM

i think Strasbourg know a thing or two about Lens and can be dangerous against them, i would doubt Lens beating Strasbourg easily, what i'm considering in this match is both teams to score, i find it really fair since Strasbourg always crack the code of Lens defense.

Strasbourg this season is very weak, at the opposite of Lens, where it plays good football. I doubt Strasbourg could win them, their best hope is to get a draw imo.
In the French Cup matches, I saw Ligue 1 teams losing vs weaker team in Ligue 2 or maybe worse

They drew and lost during the extra time of the game
I see them drawing in the next game during league 1 fixtures
As for Angers they look set to hold psg to a hard first half

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Quote from: Ratash on January 07, 2023, 12:49:53 PM

I like this version of marseille after the break a lot more they performed well in their first game winning with a huge score and performing well next they will face troyes one of the bottom teams but they sometimes show excelent performance like when they have beaten monaco so marseille team should be carefull especially against teams in danger of relegation, the odds for marseille win are good and i think that's what will happen.

Do you think the team in position 13 in the standings is the bottom team? Also, do you think because Troyes is in 13th position then Troyes is in danger of being relegated?
Because I think, even though Troyes only has a five-point gap with the team in the relegation zone, I believe Troyes will be able to secure their position to stay in Ligue 1.

Because even if for example in the match against Marseille and then Troyes loses, I'm sure that for the next matches Troyes will be able to produce good points.
Also, so far Troyes when playing at home seems that Troyes has more often drawn draws but yes, at this moment it looks like Marseille is in his best form so this match is still possible for Marseille to win.

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