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Quote from: snipie on December 20, 2021, 01:50:28 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on December 19, 2021, 02:52:14 PM

That's just nonsense to be honest. Literally no other club in Ligue 1 could afford to sign even Neymar alone. How are you going to compete with Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Donnaruma, etc. if you don't even have 1/10th of the money that PSG has available?

How could you compete with PSG while its competitors are failing vs weak teams?
For example: OM missis points vs Metz, Brest and Angers...
Rennes won vs PSG while losing 2 points vs Troyes and Bordeaux and getting a defeat vs Angers and Reims.
Nice got a draw vs PSG and lost points against Metz and Troyes...
Of course this is football and there is ups and downs. Even the great Bayern loses points vs weaker teams but wasting 14 points in 17 games won't make you dream of the title...
You should win 100% of your games vs weak teams, you should win most of your games vs top teams then we could blame money for the rest.. but wasting randomly points then blaming money for that is simply nonsense!
Last season Lille was able to win the title with Neymar, Di Maria, Mbappe and Navas in PSG. Messi isn't doing extraordinary things here. Dunno if you understand what I meant. Blame the money when you build a winner team and lose the title because the other team is always winning.

You just don't have to give up right away and despair of having star players in the opponent's squad, because in football it's not the names that win, but specific teams that can score one goal more than the opponent on this particular day and hour. It is not for nothing that it is said that order beats class and the national championship is by no means 38 games against a club like Paris Saint Germain, but a game every round with different opponents with different class levels. Fortunately, money does not solve everything in football, otherwise it would not be so interesting to follow the tournaments and there are always rivals who use their financial and human resources that are available more effectively.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 19, 2021, 05:03:18 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on December 19, 2021, 04:03:46 PM

Watching this PSG game, and i am still keeping my fingers crossed hoping to see goals in the game that are not as a result of penalties. Not like i am insinuating that the penalties were not correctly given, they were, but it will be nice to see normal creative goals. Mbappe is in good form, looking sharp in front, Icardi should take cue from him and start playing better especially in the second half.

Lol

I wonder why PSG released Mbappe and most of the main squad in general? Only Messi is resting (although he would be happy to convert those two penalties). I think the PSG reserve team would have won this game with great enthusiasm. A 3-0 win for the main squad against clear outsiders doesn't look like a big achievement.

a 3-0 is a win no matter what, Psg created a lot of chances in the first half and in the beginning of the 2nd half, and that led to three goals that were enough for them to guarantee the win and advancing to the next round, after that we didn't see a lot of effort from psg players, just few chances here and there, I am pretty sure if they needed or wanted to score more they could have done it but they didn't have to be aggressive and played slowly.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 19, 2021, 05:03:18 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on December 19, 2021, 04:03:46 PM

Watching this PSG game, and i am still keeping my fingers crossed hoping to see goals in the game that are not as a result of penalties. Not like i am insinuating that the penalties were not correctly given, they were, but it will be nice to see normal creative goals. Mbappe is in good form, looking sharp in front, Icardi should take cue from him and start playing better especially in the second half.

Lol

I wonder why PSG released Mbappe and most of the main squad in general? Only Messi is resting (although he would be happy to convert those two penalties). I think the PSG reserve team would have won this game with great enthusiasm. A 3-0 win for the main squad against clear outsiders doesn't look like a big achievement.

I dont know why also they didnt rest Mbappe in this match and just risked to get him injured in a cup match against a team from 5th tier. Also the 5th tier league team played solid football and really unlucky for those 2 penalties i think if PSG didnt score those penalties they would have struggled a lot

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Quote from: mv1986 on December 19, 2021, 02:52:14 PM

That's just nonsense to be honest. Literally no other club in Ligue 1 could afford to sign even Neymar alone. How are you going to compete with Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Donnaruma, etc. if you don't even have 1/10th of the money that PSG has available?

I understand your point but the answer to why none of the other teams are capable of signing Neymar is simple actually. Because PSG are a very rich club and the rest of them are in a financial condition that is far away from PSG. If some rich guy decides to buy a club in the Ligue 1 like the Newcastle example, then balances can be upset for certain. But for now, it seems to be impossible for any of those clubs to be able to afford a player like Neymar.

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Quote from: snipie on December 19, 2021, 12:27:00 PM

I am always wondering whether the staff, players of the other teams are considering winning the title as being the first one of the actual table or the first one of a table that doesn't include PSG Roll Eyes

As I always say, it is their fault to not being able to compete with PSG. PSG could win whatever game it wants but a team that wants to challenge them has to win as much game as possible..the current situation is very different and those teams are wasting points easily.

I think that all participants of the process dream of titles, but the path to the title does not lie through trying to win the championship being in Metz or Lance - this is simply unrealistic. But each of the players, coaches, and other staff can develop individually, get better and eventually move to a stronger team (even PSG). Therefore, if they are really focused on self-development and self-improvement, then we can say that even being in outsider teams, they are fighting for the champion title (for themselves in the future).

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Quote from: mv1986 on December 19, 2021, 02:52:14 PM

That's just nonsense to be honest. Literally no other club in Ligue 1 could afford to sign even Neymar alone. How are you going to compete with Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Donnaruma, etc. if you don't even have 1/10th of the money that PSG has available?

How could you compete with PSG while its competitors are failing vs weak teams?
For example: OM missis points vs Metz, Brest and Angers...
Rennes won vs PSG while losing 2 points vs Troyes and Bordeaux and getting a defeat vs Angers and Reims.
Nice got a draw vs PSG and lost points against Metz and Troyes...
Of course this is football and there is ups and downs. Even the great Bayern loses points vs weaker teams but wasting 14 points in 17 games won't make you dream of the title...
You should win 100% of your games vs weak teams, you should win most of your games vs top teams then we could blame money for the rest.. but wasting randomly points then blaming money for that is simply nonsense!
Last season Lille was able to win the title with Neymar, Di Maria, Mbappe and Navas in PSG. Messi isn't doing extraordinary things here. Dunno if you understand what I meant. Blame the money when you build a winner team and lose the title because the other team is always winning.

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on December 20, 2021, 04:25:15 AM

The next week in the league is close to start. And after I examined the matches, I saw the Monaco vs Rennes match as the most interesting one. Rennes continue to surprise and impress people at the same time. Their great effort helps them stay at top positions in the standings for now. But they have a really difficult job here surely. Monaco are not an easy team when it comes to beating them away. I think that we will see goals from both teams. And it wouldn't surprise me to see a draw also.

Now we have last round before going into winter break, and it's going to be very interesting with Monaco vs Rennes is having some interest with many other big teams having easy matches. Here both teams currently on same level of form but this win can give some good crucial points to Rennes for staying at number 3 while Monaco is now also looking for some better results as they are at 8th position and this will can give them some better spot for coming back after break and spending some energy for more good points and higher rank.

But, with the unpredictable nature of French Ligue it's very difficult to have predicted about anything in advance who is going down and which team is coming on top.

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The next week in the league is close to start. And after I examined the matches, I saw the Monaco vs Rennes match as the most interesting one. Rennes continue to surprise and impress people at the same time. Their great effort helps them stay at top positions in the standings for now. But they have a really difficult job here surely. Monaco are not an easy team when it comes to beating them away. I think that we will see goals from both teams. And it wouldn't surprise me to see a draw also.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 19, 2021, 05:03:18 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on December 19, 2021, 04:03:46 PM

Watching this PSG game, and i am still keeping my fingers crossed hoping to see goals in the game that are not as a result of penalties. Not like i am insinuating that the penalties were not correctly given, they were, but it will be nice to see normal creative goals. Mbappe is in good form, looking sharp in front, Icardi should take cue from him and start playing better especially in the second half.

Lol

I wonder why PSG released Mbappe and most of the main squad in general? Only Messi is resting (although he would be happy to convert those two penalties). I think the PSG reserve team would have won this game with great enthusiasm. A 3-0 win for the main squad against clear outsiders doesn't look like a big achievement.

with a team that is not very well known, why do you have to take such a big risk Cheesy

That's not the point.
Big wins will also be considered very natural when meeting a team that is not very well known to many people and when PSG loses they will be blasphemed for losing to a small team Cheesy

on the other hand this doesn't mean anything and actually this match doesn't really have much effect on them

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 19, 2021, 05:03:18 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on December 19, 2021, 04:03:46 PM

Watching this PSG game, and i am still keeping my fingers crossed hoping to see goals in the game that are not as a result of penalties. Not like i am insinuating that the penalties were not correctly given, they were, but it will be nice to see normal creative goals. Mbappe is in good form, looking sharp in front, Icardi should take cue from him and start playing better especially in the second half.

Lol

I wonder why PSG released Mbappe and most of the main squad in general? Only Messi is resting (although he would be happy to convert those two penalties). I think the PSG reserve team would have won this game with great enthusiasm. A 3-0 win for the main squad against clear outsiders doesn't look like a big achievement.

Then again a 3 - 0 is enough to advance to the next round. Why would you risk getting players injured like Messi. He is also the oldest so maybe Pochettino just wants to be careful with him. Mbappe usually doesn't get inured easily. And the team that was on the pitch was still strong enough to win it.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on December 19, 2021, 04:03:46 PM

Watching this PSG game, and i am still keeping my fingers crossed hoping to see goals in the game that are not as a result of penalties. Not like i am insinuating that the penalties were not correctly given, they were, but it will be nice to see normal creative goals. Mbappe is in good form, looking sharp in front, Icardi should take cue from him and start playing better especially in the second half.

Lol

I wonder why PSG released Mbappe and most of the main squad in general? Only Messi is resting (although he would be happy to convert those two penalties). I think the PSG reserve team would have won this game with great enthusiasm. A 3-0 win for the main squad against clear outsiders doesn't look like a big achievement.

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PSG are playing a Coupe de France match against a very weak opponent now and they ended the first half 2-0 ahead. Icardi and Mbappe scored the goals. This is like a training match for them of course before their league match. And their next opponent in the Ligue 1 is Lorient. They are also not a tough opponent for PSG but I want to remind you that they beat PSG in the last season. But PSG would take revenge on their opponent this time I believe.

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Watching this PSG game, and i am still keeping my fingers crossed hoping to see goals in the game that are not as a result of penalties. Not like i am insinuating that the penalties were not correctly given, they were, but it will be nice to see normal creative goals. Mbappe is in good form, looking sharp in front, Icardi should take cue from him and start playing better especially in the second half.

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Quote from: snipie on December 19, 2021, 12:27:00 PM

Quote from: judas on December 16, 2021, 03:03:37 PM

I really appreciate PSG's gigantic form in the Ligue 1 so far. They are playing like they are in a video game. Cheesy

They have lost only once so far in 18 Ligue 1 games. And they won 14 of them. They have a gap like 13 points even with the second-placed team which are Marseille. The other teams including Marseille are having a very big difficulty in keeping up with PSG. And as there is a very wide gap in strength between PSG and any of the rest of the teams, it is not seen as a surprising thing.

I am always wondering whether the staff, players of the other teams are considering winning the title as being the first one of the actual table or the first one of a table that doesn't include PSG Roll Eyes

As I always say, it is their fault to not being able to compete with PSG. PSG could win whatever game it wants but a team that wants to challenge them has to win as much game as possible..the current situation is very different and those teams are wasting points easily.

That's just nonsense to be honest. Literally no other club in Ligue 1 could afford to sign even Neymar alone. How are you going to compete with Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Donnaruma, etc. if you don't even have 1/10th of the money that PSG has available?

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Quote from: judas on December 16, 2021, 03:03:37 PM

I really appreciate PSG's gigantic form in the Ligue 1 so far. They are playing like they are in a video game. Cheesy

They have lost only once so far in 18 Ligue 1 games. And they won 14 of them. They have a gap like 13 points even with the second-placed team which are Marseille. The other teams including Marseille are having a very big difficulty in keeping up with PSG. And as there is a very wide gap in strength between PSG and any of the rest of the teams, it is not seen as a surprising thing.

I am always wondering whether the staff, players of the other teams are considering winning the title as being the first one of the actual table or the first one of a table that doesn't include PSG Roll Eyes

As I always say, it is their fault to not being able to compete with PSG. PSG could win whatever game it wants but a team that wants to challenge them has to win as much game as possible..the current situation is very different and those teams are wasting points easily.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on December 19, 2021, 01:32:27 AM

Monaco as a team is stable. They are very caring towards young players. They find young talent and help them become more experienced. Monaco's goal is not to win titles, but to develop and empower young talent. They can make money by selling them. However, Monaco is doing its job very well. If they could spend some money and coordinate the star players in the team, they might be able to compete for the Ligue 1 title.

Monaco has always been producing great talented young players, and even their former youth players are now the mainstay of great clubs such as Kylian Mbappe, James Rodriguez, Thomas Lemar and even Youri Tielemans, I agree with what you say, if If Monaco could retain these great players, of course, Monaco would be a club that is respected by other clubs in Europe, but indeed Monaco, which has weak finances, of course requires a lot of money to continue to increase their club income by selling talented young players.

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When it comes to the Monaco - Rennes game, I think that this game is very likely to end up with a draw. But I don't expect a 0-0 draw also. These teams are both very capable of scoring now. In their last head-to-head games in Monaco, both teams scored at least one goal. Taking this into account, I feel myself really close to the both teams to score bet option. And if I placed a bet on a side to win, my choice would be Monaco. Because they haven't lost a home game in the league for many weeks.

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Quote from: kayiboyu on December 19, 2021, 07:28:14 AM

There are still three days for the new match week to start. As far as I can see, the most salient game is Monaco - Rennes. Monaco are trying to get back to their performance in the last season at least but they should keep winning to be able to do this now. Rennes are in a much better condition than them and playing big for the top positions in the standings. Each team can score I think but I don't have a clear opinion about which side can win.

Both teams to score in this match is a good choice to bet on, but if I consider the performance of both so far this season then I would still pick Rennes to win. Because even, if I look from the head to head side too, Monaco doesn't look promising to win so even though Monaco can play well in this match I think it will only result in a draw. However, Rennes still has a chance to win here I don't care that this is an away match for Rennes, because Rennes' record so far this season when playing at home and away looks good, so draw or Rennes win with both teams to score is an option which may be right.

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There are still three days for the new match week to start. As far as I can see, the most salient game is Monaco - Rennes. Monaco are trying to get back to their performance in the last season at least but they should keep winning to be able to do this now. Rennes are in a much better condition than them and playing big for the top positions in the standings. Each team can score I think but I don't have a clear opinion about which side can win.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 18, 2021, 03:05:18 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on December 17, 2021, 10:59:24 AM

The amount that PSG spends to build their squad, ligue 1 no other team spends that amount and no other team has so many star players. Moreover PSG management has formed them to make the champions perform better. And so they've added a lot of star players to the team, and are spending a lot of money. Ligue 1 does not need such a strong squad to win the title.

Some years ago, Monaco were doing the same thing that PSG have been doing. For the 2016-17 season, Monaco built a really solid team and they became the champions in the Ligue 1 by ending the season quite far ahead of PSG. They had Mbappe also then. And after some time, PSG built a really strong team and they have strengthened their squad even more now by adding Messi to the team also. And they continue to dominate most of the seasons.

They will continue to dominate the league for as long as the Sheikhs decide to pump money into the club. Monaco couldn't compete with PSG and I guess almost no club in the world is able to compete with PSG financially. The only thing that speaks against PSG and in favor of a club from the Premier League is that the PL is much more attractive to top players.

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