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I feel like De Zerbi is not the type of manager that will change the shape of a whole team, like do not expect some Xabi type of "how did this happen" style of results, that is not going to happen. I think the best that they can hope for would be just getting a good result with whatever they have, based on what they were expected, nothing much.

There are teams who do terrible compared to what is expected of them, so they should be happy if they do enough to be where they are expected, which would be top four at the best case. Meaning, if they finish fourth then they should be happy. Will this work or happen and like see the end of the season? I do not know, but I know that they are not going to be all that great at all.
Xabi luck with Leverkusen in the Bundesliga is considered difficult to achieve, although it is not impossible to happen. De Zerbi leaving Brighton, for me this still has a big question mark, especially when choosing Marseille as his destination. Previously, De Zerbi was widely linked with Bayern, United and Chelsea, and there were expectations he could replace Pep Guardiola at the Etihad one day.

Meanwhile, De Zerbi was given the task of bringing Marsielle to a top four finish in the standings, where this season they ended in 8th place in the standings, outside the European zone. Maybe winning another domestic trophy, apart from Ligue 1, is a target to achieve like the French Super Cup. In terms of experience, De Zerbi can certainly lead Marseille to the Champions League zone next season, provided he gets adequate budget support to build squad depth.
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I feel like De Zerbi is not the type of manager that will change the shape of a whole team, like do not expect some Xabi type of "how did this happen" style of results, that is not going to happen. I think the best that they can hope for would be just getting a good result with whatever they have, based on what they were expected, nothing much.

There are teams who do terrible compared to what is expected of them, so they should be happy if they do enough to be where they are expected, which would be top four at the best case. Meaning, if they finish fourth then they should be happy. Will this work or happen and like see the end of the season? I do not know, but I know that they are not going to be all that great at all.
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I wonder if there isn't something Nantes can do in each new season? because this team has always finished at the bottom of the table throughout the season and it would be quite worrying if they had to be relegated one day. Luckily they can always finish in a fairly safe place and can avoid relegation because they will definitely go back and forth to the league.

But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.

Nantes was a very good team in the playstation games we played in the 2000's Cheesy I think they have never finished among the top 5 teams in the league in the last 20 years, they finish in the middle or in the worst rankings every season. Actually, it is not a bad team, but there is no one who makes an effort to make the team better, they have no goals and I guess they don't want to spend too much money. It seems that remaining a small club does not bother them Smiley
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De Zerbi is a really great move by Marseille in my opinion. However didn't Marseille make so many manager changes in one year?  Sad  Marcelino, Gattuso and lastly Jean-Louis Gasset.

Gasset didn't even last half a season I assume. If he was an interim manager then okay. Otherwise he got sacked too quickly. Anyways, I hope they can make a good start with De Zerbi. He is a really decent manager and I don't know why Brighton decided to part ways with him as well. I assume it was due to finishing way below their previous season position. I would like to see Marseille recovering with him as they have been struggling for quite a while.
De zerbi who has officially left brighton this season is widely rumored to be coaching a big team, but it is quite surprising if indeed he will continue his career as a Marseille coach next season, de zerbi is of course a young and intelligent coach who was previously rumored to be coaching a big team in Serie A but actually at this time he is rumored to be very close to coaching a team that is indeed not better than brighton,  Marseille certainly has a long history in Ligue 1, but in my opinion, Marseille is not a team that has the potential to become a title contender in Ligue 1, especially to break PSG dominance is of course a very difficult thing.

Marseille is indeed a team known for their cruelty in firing coaches so far, so what you say is indeed very true because in the last few seasons they have changed coaches several times, coach changes often have not had a significant impact so far on Marseille because they are not supported by the quality of qualified players, besides that Marseille penchant for selling its star players is of course the reason for the difficulty Marseille has been competing in Ligue 1 all this time.
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I wonder if there isn't something Nantes can do in each new season? because this team has always finished at the bottom of the table throughout the season and it would be quite worrying if they had to be relegated one day. Luckily they can always finish in a fairly safe place and can avoid relegation because they will definitely go back and forth to the league.

But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.
Nantes is dinosaur, man! A fossil of what they used to be. They were top of the food chain twenty-four years ago; now, all they're doing is avoiding being eaten

Are they really clinging to this "avoid relegation" tactic? It's a death spiral, bro. You have to flourish rather than merely survive. They require a kick and a fire started beneath their asses. Put money into the academy, raise a few young boys, and make some significant transfers. Otherwise, they're doomed to be a mid-table nobody

Man, that's an embarrasment. With such history, a team shouldn't be playing to win. They ought to be playing to win, to rule
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De Zerbi is a really great move by Marseille in my opinion. However didn't Marseille make so many manager changes in one year?  Sad  Marcelino, Gattuso and lastly Jean-Louis Gasset.

Gasset didn't even last half a season I assume. If he was an interim manager then okay. Otherwise he got sacked too quickly. Anyways, I hope they can make a good start with De Zerbi. He is a really decent manager and I don't know why Brighton decided to part ways with him as well. I assume it was due to finishing way below their previous season position. I would like to see Marseille recovering with him as they have been struggling for quite a while.

Even though Marseille finished in eighth position, but basically Marseille experienced bad results last season. How could it not be, because Marseille also lost by Lyon, who started the season very badly, but Lyon managed to finish in sixth position and get a Europa League ticket. Therefore, I think it makes sense why Marseille made quite a lot of manager changes last season. I also hope that De Zerbi is able to make Marseille better next season, because PSG also looks like they will experience a decline in performance next season because they still need adjustments after Mbappe departure. But anyway, I personally believe that De Zerbi is able to make Marseille better, even though it will still be difficult to get a trophy, but I sure that De Zerbi is able to make Marseille be in contention for the title next season.
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Kvaratskhelia was probably in negotiations with PSG. However, the negotiations did not actually become successful. And he is going to have a new contract signed with Napoli. So it looks like he is staying at Napoli and PSG is not going to get him.

Kvaratskhelia is actually a left-winger if I am not wrong. It looks like PSG is looking for good players, good attacking players, doesn’t matter if he is a striker, a left-winger, or a right-winger. Probably they are going to play the player that they get as a striker anyway. Don’t know if that is actually a great approach or not. PSG is already not a great attractive option right now for great players. Probably that’s why they are taking this approach.

After the big names that they got, Lionel Messi, Neymar and finally Mbappé have left the club, they cannot actually attract great players easily right now. At least that’s what I believe. Taking part in the Champions League competition is also not something they can attract players with.
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Mbappe's departure makes them perhaps no more confident, because I think they will feel the departure of this player. but I hope that doesn't happen, but instead they can put a new color into their game even without Mbappe, that's what I want to see from them next season. The coach must prepare a scenario that will make them even better, he has the opportunity to bring in players and I'm sure everything the management wants can be granted if it has to do with money.
In fact, Enrique often tests this team's ability to play without Mbappe and the results are not disappointing. I'm sure PSG without Mbappe can still dominate Ligue 1 next season, but for European competitions like the UCL they will definitely fall at the start of the game, unless they find a replacement player in the line. In their future to replace Mbappe as a striker, Enrique will definitely find that player, just waiting for PSG to announce the players they will recruit to replace Mbappe next season.

Mbappe's departure may indeed reduce the team's performance and team confidence, but Enrique is also not a stupid coach, he will definitely look for the best player in Europe who can replace Mbappe, my analysis of PSG next season I am sure they will continue to dominate Ligue 1 without Whatever obstacles, let alone finding a difficult path, Enrique must of course prepare for the UCL and they will also think about changing some of the players in the main squad better so that they can produce the best game they hope for.
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I wonder if there isn't something Nantes can do in each new season? because this team has always finished at the bottom of the table throughout the season and it would be quite worrying if they had to be relegated one day. Luckily they can always finish in a fairly safe place and can avoid relegation because they will definitely go back and forth to the league.

But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.
Nantes best achievement in Ligue 1 in the last 5 season was happened on season 2021/2022 because at that time they can able to finish at 9th place and Nantes also can being an the champion of France Cup on season 2022 which make them can playing at Europa League and on that competition actually Nantes can performing well and finish at the runner up place and advances to play off stages but unfortunately at that time they were eliminated by Juventus and regarding their status in Ligue 1 indeed they are only small team and almost every year Nantes will always be hard struggling to fight to avoiding relegation zone and this season too Nantes almost be relegated because they only have 4 points above to relegation zone

At their current squad Nantes has Mostafa Mohamed and he was recognized as Nantes top scorer in Ligue 1 and i think Nantes should be hold this player and not sell him to other club because Mostafa Mohamed is important player for them about their manager after Pierre Aristouy was withdraw from his position as Nantes manager currently Antoine Kombouare was in charge but Nantes performance under Antoine Kombouare is quite dissapointing because from 8 matches in Ligue 1 Nantes only can collect 8 points and i think next season will not so different for Nantes because they still fight to avoiding relegation zone but Antoine Kombouare contract actually will be expired at the end of this June but until now i couldn't find any information whether Nantes has decided to extended his contract or Nantes looking for a new coach
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I wonder if there isn't something Nantes can do in each new season? because this team has always finished at the bottom of the table throughout the season and it would be quite worrying if they had to be relegated one day. Luckily they can always finish in a fairly safe place and can avoid relegation because they will definitely go back and forth to the league.

But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.
Nantes has changed. The shame is real. They battle mud season after season. Everyone notices. They just want to avoid losing. Bad approach. But you gotta give them credit, they're survivors. Not superstars, but effective. Thats something. Their kids' academy is another issue. Formerly a talent factory. Now its dried. No celebrities or rising stars.

New faces and ideas are needed to transform things. Invest in young players, hungry players. They need to remember what made them great, remember their history. Nantes can win again if they believe. Its possible. Right mindset and ambition are important. Nantes must wake up and win again.
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The Nantes team really needs to make changes to themselves if they have the desire to compete more fiercely in Ligue1. Because from what you said, it is also quite clear that if Nantes is still like last season, no one will want to rely on that team. So it is not impossible that Nantes could experience relegation in the coming seasons because there is no reliable increase in performance. So there is no other choice but to be able to make good improvements in the team for Nantes before they drop to the lower caste.
It's rare to talk about a team that isn't primarily a title contender, so I don't think Nantes will be better off if they don't get a big investor. Nantes is just a mid-table Ligue 1 team, so I don't think many people are interested in discussing the future of this team if there are no major changes to its management structure.

Many Ligue 1 teams need big investors who are ready to invest in the team by improving the depth of the squad. This is the only way that all teams in Ligue 1 can be truly competitive in the modern era of football. Every team that can afford to buy expensive, quality players is the one who has the best chance of winning the title even though there is no guarantee at all of winning it every season.
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De Zerbi is a really great move by Marseille in my opinion. However didn't Marseille make so many manager changes in one year?  Sad  Marcelino, Gattuso and lastly Jean-Louis Gasset.

Gasset didn't even last half a season I assume. If he was an interim manager then okay. Otherwise he got sacked too quickly. Anyways, I hope they can make a good start with De Zerbi. He is a really decent manager and I don't know why Brighton decided to part ways with him as well. I assume it was due to finishing way below their previous season position. I would like to see Marseille recovering with him as they have been struggling for quite a while.
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There's no need to have high hopes for a mediocre team like Nantes, a club that doesn't have a lot of money can at least produce a good academy so they can have a better season and get out of the red zone of the French League 1, but if they stay like this without any changes in the team of course they will be under greater pressure next season and it is possible that they will experience relegation with abilities that they do not want to improve.
The Nantes team really needs to make changes to themselves if they have the desire to compete more fiercely in Ligue1. Because from what you said, it is also quite clear that if Nantes is still like last season, no one will want to rely on that team. So it is not impossible that Nantes could experience relegation in the coming seasons because there is no reliable increase in performance. So there is no other choice but to be able to make good improvements in the team for Nantes before they drop to the lower caste.
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I wonder if there isn't something Nantes can do in each new season? because this team has always finished at the bottom of the table throughout the season and it would be quite worrying if they had to be relegated one day. Luckily they can always finish in a fairly safe place and can avoid relegation because they will definitely go back and forth to the league.

But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.
There's no need to have high hopes for a mediocre team like Nantes, a club that doesn't have a lot of money can at least produce a good academy so they can have a better season and get out of the red zone of the French League 1, but if they stay like this without any changes in the team of course they will be under greater pressure next season and it is possible that they will experience relegation with abilities that they do not want to improve.

Looking at the Nantes team, it seems like they don't really have much hope in the French League 1 to compete in the top 4, because the Nantes team looks satisfied playing or escaping the relegation zone is already a satisfaction in itself for them, there is nothing to hope for or be grateful for from this team because we know Nantes is just a mediocre team.
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But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.

Those were the years when Nantes was a very strong team do to the kind of experience players they have then but however it was very unfortunate for them because there performance was not able to last longer because everything changed when most of there good players left and since then they have not been able to go back to those performance, however with what I'm seeing now on Nantes performance I don't think they will be able to advance more than the way they have gone, so actually it may take them a very long time to improve because considering the kind of struggling they had on this finish season were they lost so many matches to even some smaller clubs, so I believe the only way for them to improve is to work on the players and getting some more in to make the club stronger.
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I wonder if there isn't something Nantes can do in each new season? because this team has always finished at the bottom of the table throughout the season and it would be quite worrying if they had to be relegated one day. Luckily they can always finish in a fairly safe place and can avoid relegation because they will definitely go back and forth to the league.

But unfortunately we can't have full hopes for Nantes who continue to experience repeated failures and I think they will stay like this for a long time. I still remember very well this team was successful in Ligue One and they last won Ligue One 24 years ago.
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The competition at the top of the Ligue 1 standings always changes every season, only Paris Saint Germain can consistently stay at the top, apart from them there is no other club that can consistently stay in the top competition every season. This is what makes Ligue 1 not as interesting, because the inconsistency shown by a club makes us unsure about them in the next season.

For example, we can look at Lens, last season Lens was a club that was ranked 2nd with only 1 point difference from Paris Saint Germain, but this season Lens was thrown to 7th position in the final standings. This allows us to conclude that every season the clubs that can compete are uncertain. There are those from the middle board who can be in the top competition and from the top to the middle board. From here alone we can see the difference in consistency between Paris Saint German and other clubs in Ligue 1.
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PSG is a MONSTER in Ligue 1. Mbappe is amazing, sure, but PSG's dominance isn't built on one dude. It has to do with that manpower, infrastructure, global attraction, and "Qatari oil money". They lose Mbappe, they buy another superstar, maybe two. Ligue 1 is their playground, with or without the French wonderboy. The real question is Champions League. Could they at last succeed without depending on individual talent? That's the challenge, the evolution. The Champions League is the white whale. Ligue 1 is merely a taster. Man, PSG is hungry, and losing Mbappe may just make them even more so
Yes, they are monsters, but that only applies in Ligue 1, whereas when they are in bigger and more prestigious competitions they can be said to be an ordinary team. They had difficulty competing and they had to fail many times when they were in the Champions League. Their main goal every season is the Champions League, but this goal is never achieved every season and it even happens until their star players leave and are no longer in the squad.

Mbappe's departure makes them perhaps no more confident, because I think they will feel the departure of this player. but I hope that doesn't happen, but instead they can put a new color into their game even without Mbappe, that's what I want to see from them next season. The coach must prepare a scenario that will make them even better, he has the opportunity to bring in players and I'm sure everything the management wants can be granted if it has to do with money.
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Yes, it is true that Marseille is reportedly very close to coach De Zerbi to make an offer to become coach and of course this news is very much discussed among football fans, especially for Ligue 1.
Seeing his performance with Brighton is actually not very satisfying, but for some reason Marseille has an interest in De Zerbi.
Marseille itself this season also experienced setbacks and they finished in the middle ranking, previously Marseille was strong enough team, they were able to show competitive competition and could compete with several big Ligue 1 team.
This season there are lot of changes, Ligue 1 has teams that were initially not that dominant and have been able to show an improvement in the quality of their play to the point of shifting down some of the top team that have always dominated.

Yes, the hope is that what each team does can really bring development in much better direction, making Ligue 1 league that has good competition and matches.
Before reaching an agreement with De Zerbi, Marseille must redeem his clause of 6 million euros and after all the conditions are completed De Zerbi will immediately be announced as the new coach. I think the development is quite positive and I think De Zerbi is worthy enough to handle Marseille. Even though this season has not been very good with Brighton, we cannot equate this regarding performance because since last season they have lost several important players so the results have not been optimal.

However, I welcome how De Zerbi will perform with Marseille and we will see whether he is able to improve Marseille's performance with the depth of the current squad. Regarding the Ligue One competition, I would actually be happy if there were significant changes from the newcomer teams and that would make the competition even more lively. But maybe Ligue One will be less popular if they don't bring in any more star players.
Of course Marseille will be able to pay the clause if it is not more than 10 million euros considering that some time ago De Zerbi was also linked with AC Milan or Juventus but with bigger clause, namely if I not mistaken it reached 13 million to 15 million euros.
It just that there are still various doubts about whether De Zerbi can really lead Marseille according to expectations or not next season, but there are many opportunities for them considering that the strongest Ligue 1 team, namely PSG, is also in condition of losing its best player.
There are several advantages for all Ligue 1 team and they have the opportunity to win the League more easily, we just have to wait and see how they will work and hopefully this decision is the right thing for Marseille.
And it is possible that De Zerbi will immediately make big moves, such as targeting to bring in several players who he considers worthy of helping Marseille when the 2024/25 season begins.

But De Zerbi has variety of experience in handling every match against big team from the Premier League, hopefully this experience will be useful for De Zerbi to develop Marseille in Ligue 1.
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The UEFA Champions League title is the ultimate trophy for PSG, they've fought so hard for the club but things turning out of line. Paris Saint-Germain had proven to be topping the league but missing out on their key player, a whole lot of things will fall out of line but there will be improvements with time. Don't overhyped Kylian Mbappe because there's always basic replacement for every key man in a team.
Most of PSG's investments have been geared towards getting this because they have not been able to win the champions league before and considering how prestigious the champions league title is, it has been enough reason why it appears like PSG is ready to go almost any length to make sure they end up winning the champions league one if these season, they have even spent good and huge sums some seasons just to make sure they are able to secure  the champions league title but then it looks like they are yet to get the exact thing they need to eventually win their dream trophy.

There's still a very good squad at PSG, if you look at the team very well, you will agree to the fact that they have got one of the best depth in the whole of the french league and even across Europe, they aren't doing an bad either, so I don't really doubt how much they can still achieve even in the absence of mbappe, even though I know how much he ment to the team but the team cannot become stagnant because of his exit they are definitely going to go beyond what we expected of them because of mbappes absence. A key player like you said can always be replaced.
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