French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 23.

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Quote from: xzone on December 08, 2024, 03:59:18 PM

No team is perfect, even the best team in the world can lose the match. PSG is actually not a very good team, but the quality of the French league is not very high at the moment, so most people see PSG as a very good team.
Nantes, who managed to gain points from PSG, is ahead in the current match, and maybe they will gain 3 more points. these results are very good for them

I think the same as you, although many times saying that can cause discomfort among the fans of the teams, but apart from everything, as CR7 said something like last year, for me the Saudi League has now a much higher level than Ligue 1, and these things can be favorable so that they begin to see Saudi football as high level, of course I enjoy watching the Ligue 1 matches, when Nantes beat PSG I liked it because that is what is needed, for a team to compete with them, that is where they add spice to this league.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 11, 2024, 08:04:32 AM

Quote from: irhact on December 02, 2024, 04:05:15 AM

It has always been Mbappe and not Messi, Mbappe leaving is what caused the viewership numbers of the league to drop. Mbappe made the league popular and after Messi came and left still the league was recieving interest until Real Madrid came for Mbappe and now much people don't watch the league again. Personally I can't remember the last I watched the league after the departure of Mbappe. PSG dominance on the league is also making the league to be of no interest from people as they know that they're the ones that's going to win. PSG is also going to win the league again this season regardless of drawing against Marseille in their last match, they're ahead with 7 points.

Well, although Mbappé is not having a good moment, things are not going his way, I think that has influenced him a lot. In fact, he himself said that when he missed a penalty in the UCL that CR7 called him and encouraged him, this is a very good thing, however, now PSG is not as powerful in Ligue 1, I see that they have had some shortcomings while they play, I don't know if Luis Enrique has spoken to him more about the attack being more vertical, and the defense being in zones, because they arrive very easily with a good counterattack.

One good thing that happened to PSG was Mbappe leaving the team they were expecting to see the team not having good performance anymore and they were even expecting to see PSG lose the French League title after Mbappe leaving PSG but now you can see Mbappe left PSG and this team is still having good performance even without Mbappe in this team.
I think Enrique is the key for PSG and he is the coach who knows how to feel the place of the players like Mbappe in PSG after they leave.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 12, 2024, 11:16:33 AM

PSG have a great mentality and toughness in dominating the domestic league so far, but this mentality and toughness they do not have when playing in Europe, especially the UCL so far, even when they have many star players in the squad, their best achievement in the UCL is only until the final without being able to win the championship trophy, They actually have a strong squad with great players but the easy competition in the league has actually shaped their poor mentality in the UCL, in my opinion, before PSG is able to improve their mentality to be better and stronger, then we will never see PSG win the UCL and this season is likely to be their worst journey in the UCL.

One major issue I seem to have observed around PSG that has caused them the inconsistencies in the champions League is their tactical approach and their mentality towards the game, they have a good team such that it cannot and never be blamed on the players, neither the coach but I will throw slight blame at him in that he's the person in charge a d picks the strategies they use at any time but then he's got a technical crew he works with so that makes it such that it's to be evenly blamed amongst them all, hopefully with time they will be able to find a sound tactics around the UCL just like they have done In their domestic league for the longest.

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Quote from: pusaka on December 12, 2024, 10:58:14 AM

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Quote from: Jossque on December 10, 2024, 08:31:57 AM

Marseille, on the other hand, won 2-0 away to Saint Etienne and managed to increase their points to 29.They will give everything to be champions this season.Saint Etienne played badly this season so Marseille did not have much difficulty in this match.Marseille could have found more goals for Marseille, who dominated the match against their opponent.

I agree that Marseille should have scored more goals, as they dominated the game. Maybe 0 - 3 or 0 - 4 would have been more reasonable. Etienne isn't a tough opponent for them, even Marseille was able to beat AS Monaco in their previous match. With the result in this match, Marseille is now a serious challenger for PSG in the Ligue 1 standings.

I also think so, they should have won by more than 2 goals with the many chances they created. Marseille fought very hard to keep their distance from the top of the standings, but once again it is not easy for them to catch up because the teams above them are the best teams in Ligue 1.
But I hope they don't think about that, because what is more important is that they must stay focused on what they can do. As long as they can be consistent with winning, then their chances of becoming champions are still open, even though they are hoping that Paris Saint Germain will slip up a little in some of the matches they play.

The gap is only 5 points, but looking at the statistics that PSG have never lost, in contrast to them is a little alarming, because 5 points would seem not so much and during the season it is still possible to catch up, but it is all about the stability of the team, in this PSG is really the best in the league. So there is a fight in the table as if there is, but in fact on the long distance it is no longer there

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Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on December 12, 2024, 01:21:31 PM

It's high time we stopped deliberating about PSG's dead luck in the Champions league because they can achieve it in a season when no one will expect them to win the trophy. Despite their little efforts in Champions league games, the most important thing is that PSG still dominates the France ligue 1 and they are likely to win it back-to-back again, so had it been that they are not doing well both in the Champions league and the Ligue 1, that is where it could have become a problem. They can't continue thinking about the Champions league so they should just try their best, if they go further, it's fine and if they don't, they return home and take full charge of the league games. They should not fall into a discomfort just because they want to win the champions league.

Actually, the main issue being debated is not about the title in UCL or league 1, but the fans only expect PSG to continue to strengthen consistency and focus on several competitions and maximize performance in those competitions.
So when PSG is able to maintain stable performance to focus on certain competitions, I am sure PSG is able to pursue the desired title. For example, PSG has started to appear consistently maintaining every strategy to maintain the final result with a draw or win in the UCL competition and will appear normally in league 1. I am sure that is a little unreasonable but it is one of the best ways for me.
We will see in the future when PSG is able to appear impressively in the UCL until the final round, of course in other competitions PSG will also appear normally but have a draw or refuse to lose.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 12, 2024, 01:00:02 PM

No one denies PSG's performance in the Champions League this season, they are very visible experiencing many problems that make it difficult to achieve victory. in Lique 1 PSG is a superior team, they have not even experienced defeat. for me PSG's problem is not in the system, or technical approach, but the quality of the PSG players themselves. in particular, they do not have a reliable finisher with at least 1 goal per match. in fact, the wingers are the ones who score more goals, even though they have a center forward. now Goncalo Ramos has returned, we will see how far he contributes to his team. actually PSG has good players, they also usually always dominate the course of the match. but it will be useless, if the players cannot complete the final finish by scoring goals. okay in Lique 1 they were productive, but in the Champions League they were confused. even so, PSG eventually won the match over RB Leipzig.

PSG are really horrible in the Champions League indeed. They might even risk their chance for the playoffs you know. Sad

The team are still not ready for such tournament as it seems. At first I didn't think so honestly.

There are really talented youngsters in the squad but they are still not exactly a team. I can say they are good only in the Ligue 1. Even here they started to get poor results recently.

I think they will win the Ligue 1 title anyway. However I don't expect them to be competitive for the Champions League one. But I assume they wouldn't say goodbye in league phase at least.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 12, 2024, 11:16:33 AM

PSG have a great mentality and toughness in dominating the domestic league so far, but this mentality and toughness they do not have when playing in Europe, especially the UCL so far, even when they have many star players in the squad, their best achievement in the UCL is only until the final without being able to win the championship trophy, They actually have a strong squad with great players but the easy competition in the league has actually shaped their poor mentality in the UCL, in my opinion, before PSG is able to improve their mentality to be better and stronger, then we will never see PSG win the UCL and this season is likely to be their worst journey in the UCL.

It's high time we stopped deliberating about PSG's dead luck in the Champions league because they can achieve it in a season when no one will expect them to win the trophy. Despite their little efforts in Champions league games, the most important thing is that PSG still dominates the France ligue 1 and they are likely to win it back-to-back again, so had it been that they are not doing well both in the Champions league and the Ligue 1, that is where it could have become a problem. They can't continue thinking about the Champions league so they should just try their best, if they go further, it's fine and if they don't, they return home and take full charge of the league games. They should not fall into a discomfort just because they want to win the champions league.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 12, 2024, 10:57:45 AM

Quote from: mammusu on December 10, 2024, 11:59:13 PM

I am also surprised by the assumption of many people who claim that PSG is in bad shape this season, even though we know how they are still unbeaten so far in the league, indeed PSG has had negative results in some of their matches but that does not mean they are in bad shape, the only challenge for PSG so far is the champions league, while ligue 1 of course they still show their power so far, currently their chances in the champions league are still very small to qualify for the next round, so if they are early eliminated in the champions league this season, then I we will see PSG will be unstoppable in Ligue 1 later.

If this is with reference to the champions League then we can agree to saying PSG isn't in a very good form but in their domestic league it's a different case as they still remain the champions and the dominators of their domestic league, they have al of their key players intact and none lost to injury already so they probably have their fome intact on that their technical approach in the champions League isn't just the best already and so they cannot be seen as doing just so well in that aspect.

No one denies PSG's performance in the Champions League this season, they are very visible experiencing many problems that make it difficult to achieve victory. in Lique 1 PSG is a superior team, they have not even experienced defeat. for me PSG's problem is not in the system, or technical approach, but the quality of the PSG players themselves. in particular, they do not have a reliable finisher with at least 1 goal per match. in fact, the wingers are the ones who score more goals, even though they have a center forward. now Goncalo Ramos has returned, we will see how far he contributes to his team. actually PSG has good players, they also usually always dominate the course of the match. but it will be useless, if the players cannot complete the final finish by scoring goals. okay in Lique 1 they were productive, but in the Champions League they were confused. even so, PSG eventually won the match over RB Leipzig.

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Quote from: Lida93 on December 11, 2024, 07:43:51 AM

As far as the Ligue1 is concerned PSG is the most consistent club in that league and do not have much to worry about except for the fact that they haven't really performed very well in this edition thereby reducing their credibility as one of Europe's elite club but in terms of overall performance in the domestic league they have been very proactive and they stand a better chance of retaining the title this season more than any other club in the french Ligue1 this season.

It is indeed undeniable by everyone because in fact it is very clear that PSG is still very strong and deserves to retain the title in Ligue1 this season. Because everyone has also seen clearly that other teams have not been able to surpass PSG's strength so that PSG's dominance in Ligue1 continues to increase and has not been broken by other teams here. But for other competitions I still can't judge how PSG's condition is because until now PSG is still in a very bad position in the UCL standings.

PSG have a great mentality and toughness in dominating the domestic league so far, but this mentality and toughness they do not have when playing in Europe, especially the UCL so far, even when they have many star players in the squad, their best achievement in the UCL is only until the final without being able to win the championship trophy, They actually have a strong squad with great players but the easy competition in the league has actually shaped their poor mentality in the UCL, in my opinion, before PSG is able to improve their mentality to be better and stronger, then we will never see PSG win the UCL and this season is likely to be their worst journey in the UCL.

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Quote from: MAAManda on December 12, 2024, 03:12:27 AM

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Marseille, on the other hand, won 2-0 away to Saint Etienne and managed to increase their points to 29.They will give everything to be champions this season.Saint Etienne played badly this season so Marseille did not have much difficulty in this match.Marseille could have found more goals for Marseille, who dominated the match against their opponent.

I agree that Marseille should have scored more goals, as they dominated the game. Maybe 0 - 3 or 0 - 4 would have been more reasonable. Etienne isn't a tough opponent for them, even Marseille was able to beat AS Monaco in their previous match. With the result in this match, Marseille is now a serious challenger for PSG in the Ligue 1 standings.

I also think so, they should have won by more than 2 goals with the many chances they created. Marseille fought very hard to keep their distance from the top of the standings, but once again it is not easy for them to catch up because the teams above them are the best teams in Ligue 1.
But I hope they don't think about that, because what is more important is that they must stay focused on what they can do. As long as they can be consistent with winning, then their chances of becoming champions are still open, even though they are hoping that Paris Saint Germain will slip up a little in some of the matches they play.

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Quote from: mammusu on December 10, 2024, 11:59:13 PM

I am also surprised by the assumption of many people who claim that PSG is in bad shape this season, even though we know how they are still unbeaten so far in the league, indeed PSG has had negative results in some of their matches but that does not mean they are in bad shape, the only challenge for PSG so far is the champions league, while ligue 1 of course they still show their power so far, currently their chances in the champions league are still very small to qualify for the next round, so if they are early eliminated in the champions league this season, then I we will see PSG will be unstoppable in Ligue 1 later.

If this is with reference to the champions League then we can agree to saying PSG isn't in a very good form but in their domestic league it's a different case as they still remain the champions and the dominators of their domestic league, they have al of their key players intact and none lost to injury already so they probably have their fome intact on that their technical approach in the champions League isn't just the best already and so they cannot be seen as doing just so well in that aspect.

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Quote from: irhact on December 11, 2024, 06:45:30 PM

Both clubs have only lost one game more than PSG therefore, if they can keep being that good without losing more games then they have a chance at challenging PSG for the title. I still think that PSG has a point to prove this season that they can win the league without Mbappe therefore the coach and players won't want this particular title to go pass them. They're trying all their best to win it therefore it isn't going to be an easy challenge for the two clubs that you mention to keep up with PSG. PSG haven't lost any game this season and they'll want to keep it that way until the year ends. Their last two game ended in a one goal draw and a goalless draw, that's why the other clubs seems closer to them in points.

But the problem is that it will be much more difficult and maybe the conditions that will occur in the future are not as easy as imagined because to maintain the opportunity to continue winning the match will depend greatly on the level of consistency of the two clubs and not to mention if there are several core players who are injured so that it will affect the team's performance in the competition for the Ligue 1 title. PSG appears quite promising in Ligue 1 and it may be difficult to break their dominance which has not been defeated so far.

Although PSG's last two matches have drawn, there is still a difference of five points from Marseille and Monaco so that if they want to catch up, these two teams must appear undefeated for the next few matches or at least draw to maintain the opportunity to continue to catch up.

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Quote from: Lida93 on December 11, 2024, 07:43:51 AM

As far as the Ligue1 is concerned PSG is the most consistent club in that league and do not have much to worry about except for the fact that they haven't really performed very well in this edition thereby reducing their credibility as one of Europe's elite club but in terms of overall performance in the domestic league they have been very proactive and they stand a better chance of retaining the title this season more than any other club in the french Ligue1 this season.

It is indeed undeniable by everyone because in fact it is very clear that PSG is still very strong and deserves to retain the title in Ligue1 this season. Because everyone has also seen clearly that other teams have not been able to surpass PSG's strength so that PSG's dominance in Ligue1 continues to increase and has not been broken by other teams here. But for other competitions I still can't judge how PSG's condition is because until now PSG is still in a very bad position in the UCL standings.

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Quote from: hahay on December 10, 2024, 04:09:26 PM

Do not care about the teams below because anyway, if for example Marseille and Monaco have great sincerity to be able to have consistent results in each match. Then of course, PSG will be overtaken and maybe PSG will also be overtaken by Marseille or by Monaco. Because to be honest, a five-point gap is not a far point gap but yes, because PSG always manages to get good results, it is difficult for competing teams in the title race to catch up with them. But yes, the point is if they stay focused to keep having good results in every match,then it will give them a chance to overtake PSG. Because maybe, if PSG then fails to get the Ligue 1 trophy, it might make PSG make a better effort in building a team that is expected to have good results also in the Champion League.

You make a point here but this teams are not showing any signs of them being capable of making a lot more effort to be able to overtake PSG in the race for the league title. Exactly, if PSG are being faced with a bigger team in the champions league, they don’t really play well and they see them more as the mediocre team even though they are the best in their league. They need a serious challenge in their league in order to come out more excellent in the champions league. They may be the king of Ligue 1 but they are not even close to been in the top 10 best teams of the champions league now.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 11, 2024, 08:04:32 AM

Well, although Mbappé is not having a good moment, things are not going his way, I think that has influenced him a lot. In fact, he himself said that when he missed a penalty in the UCL that CR7 called him and encouraged him, this is a very good thing, however, now PSG is not as powerful in Ligue 1, I see that they have had some shortcomings while they play, I don't know if Luis Enrique has spoken to him more about the attack being more vertical, and the defense being in zones, because they arrive very easily with a good counterattack.

Mbappe move to Real Madrid was great and his departure from PSG was still perfect. A team suppose not to be depending on only one player for their success, and if they do so, they end up becoming more prudent and will lose a lot of games. PSG have not been that bad but their performance is still very much encouraging to me. They only falter a lot in the champions league. Mbappe will adapt in his games at Real Madrid but it will only take some time for it to happen and to be more responsive in quality of play like he was in PSG.

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Quote from: Jossque on December 10, 2024, 08:31:57 AM

Marseille, on the other hand, won 2-0 away to Saint Etienne and managed to increase their points to 29.They will give everything to be champions this season.Saint Etienne played badly this season so Marseille did not have much difficulty in this match.Marseille could have found more goals for Marseille, who dominated the match against their opponent.

I agree that Marseille should have scored more goals, as they dominated the game. Maybe 0 - 3 or 0 - 4 would have been more reasonable. Etienne isn't a tough opponent for them, even Marseille was able to beat AS Monaco in their previous match. With the result in this match, Marseille is now a serious challenger for PSG in the Ligue 1 standings.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 11, 2024, 07:51:18 AM

Having the status as a giant of Ligue 1, but in the Champions League they can't do much by often showing unsatisfactory performances and results. Indeed, in the Champions League their level in my opinion is still below the giants from other leagues so that's what makes it very difficult for them to do their best. Now they have to fight hard to be able to qualify at least through the play-off round. They are in the right position at the last rank of the standings that can be in the play-off round. However, their position is also not comfortable because there is almost no distance with the teams below them.

It is undeniable that in League 1 PSG is the strongest club among other clubs, but in the Champions League PSG is like an ordinary club, they always have difficulty competing. Especially this season PSG looks very difficulty in winning every match he plays, even Real Madrid who is the king of the Champions League this season, also has difficulty qualifying for the last 16 comfortably, I think many elite clubs will fight in the knockout round to advance to the last 16 such as Juventus, Man City, AC Milan, Atletico Madrid and Arsenal, they are also currently ranked quite far from the top 8.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 10, 2024, 11:37:36 PM

Marseille and Monaco will be the team that are expected to make Ligue 1 more interesting, they have experienced setback but in the future they could perform well again and show us all surprise and for the UCL competition, of course, it has different conditions from Ligue 1 so it is natural if PSG performs badly there even though here PSG is the best team almost every season.

Both clubs have only lost one game more than PSG therefore, if they can keep being that good without losing more games then they have a chance at challenging PSG for the title. I still think that PSG has a point to prove this season that they can win the league without Mbappe therefore the coach and players won't want this particular title to go pass them. They're trying all their best to win it therefore it isn't going to be an easy challenge for the two clubs that you mention to keep up with PSG. PSG haven't lost any game this season and they'll want to keep it that way until the year ends. Their last two game ended in a one goal draw and a goalless draw, that's why the other clubs seems closer to them in points.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 11, 2024, 07:51:18 AM

Having the status as a giant of Ligue 1, but in the Champions League they can't do much by often showing unsatisfactory performances and results. Indeed, in the Champions League their level in my opinion is still below the giants from other leagues so that's what makes it very difficult for them to do their best. Now they have to fight hard to be able to qualify at least through the play-off round. They are in the right position at the last rank of the standings that can be in the play-off round. However, their position is also not comfortable because there is almost no distance with the teams below them.

PSG journey to reach the last 16 is getting steeper, where they have to face Man City and Stuttgart in the next two matches. I think PSG need a lot of luck to be able to get back into the play-off zone, their dominance in Ligue 1 actually makes them uncompetitive in the Champions League. Luis Enrique is now under pressure if PSG fails to reach the last 16, Nasser Al-Khelaifi is clearly not happy with the situation. There is no worry whatsoever about their chances of winning the Ligue 1 trophy, although this season Marseille and AS Monaco look serious about competing at the top of the standings.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 11, 2024, 02:01:40 PM

For me personally, PSG is not really in bad condition. especially if we talk about Lique 1, they have not even touched defeat in 14 matches, although they have 4 draws. for me personally PSG is still too strong in the French League, their dominance is quite difficult to break. well, we agree for PSG in the Champions League. although they often dominate the course of the match, have many opportunities, they are only able to produce 6 goals in 6 matches. even though if we look at their statistics, PSG almost always has a lot of total shots. unfortunately, PSG players have difficulty converting them into goals. it seems that this team has a little problem in the more prestigious League, their strikers seem unable to break through the other team's goal. now Gonjalo Ramos has recovered, but his performance has not been effective. as you said, if PSG is eliminated in the Champions League qualifiers, it will be even more difficult to block them in Lique 1.

If we talk about the dominance of League 1, I admit that PSG still has a greater chance. But the problem is that PSG has just appeared for the first time without relying on one player who previously relied on their star players. As you said, PSG often makes a lot of shots, well that is PSG weakness that must be fixed which currently has not found the right finisher.
Even though they have Goncalo Ramos, he is still not optimal. Or in terms of talent, I prefer Bradley Barcola to be relied on and develop his talent which is currently a little more reliable in League 1.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 10, 2024, 11:37:36 PM

In my opinion, the team below PSG still has chance to compete for the Ligue 1 title because basically with 5 points difference it is still possible to match it, unless the difference reaches 10 points or more, then it is clearly difficult for any team to catch up.
Marseille and Monaco will be the team that are expected to make Ligue 1 more interesting, they have experienced setback but in the future they could perform well again and show us all surprise and for the UCL competition, of course, it has different conditions from Ligue 1 so it is natural if PSG performs badly there even though here PSG is the best team almost every season.

Five points may not be looking like too much of a difference with other teams but for PSG staying ahead by five points means everything, as they are actually not going to allow it get any lower, rather they would even want the point difference to increase and they will literally work towards getting that fixed. Others could slack with five points difference and then the points will drop a d they probably be over taken but with PSG I believe it's going to be totally different such that PSG will not allow such happen and may rather aim to win he league title instead.

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