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PSG couldn't even win the Champions League title while they had a dream trio like Mbappe - Neymar - Messi. They had just the kind of a squad that could really win the CL title. The reason why was of course the inadequate level of management of the team. Why would you bring an inexperienced manager like Galtier in the first place?

By saying inexperienced of course I mean the kind of experience with top teams. This was unnecessarily risky for them. PSG only needed a winner manager who had a good system to apply for this team. We will see if Luis Enrique is the right man for the job. Because his strategies are different from the usual for PSG.

I wonder in what sense this is a trio of "dream"? They showed very average results (and the results are the most important thing if we talk about sports and not about brands) and by the way, if you remember, they had very long periods when the three of them played significantly worse than when, for various reasons, one of this trio on field was missing.

When this trio was first built I was looking at it admirably. Because each one of these players was a special player. But things didn't went just as I expected. Neymar was getting injured quite often in the first place. I couldn't see him playing a full season properly. His statistics were still impressive when he played but this doesn't mean anything as long as he misses so many games.

Messi and Mbappe were still doing very well but it wasn't enough to reach their main target of course. By saying a dream trio I meant that they seemed to me like that when Messi was first brought here. The situation after that was exactly as we both mentioned.
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Kylian Mbappe at the end of his contract will receive a loyalty bonus of 80 million euros and today it is reported that Kylian Mbappe will receive half of his loyalty clause with PSG of 40 million euros. That means PSG has to provide quite a lot of money because the renewal of his contract with Mbappe requires him to guarantee this bonus.

I think saying he wants to stay this far means PSG have to spend that money and indeed this is one of the advantages why Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG before his contract expires. Of course PSG is quite annoyed with this and on the other hand they also made such an agreement. It seems that PSG are no longer comfortable with Mbappe's behavior and want to sell him as soon as possible before Ligue 1 starts in 12 days.

There are various different rumors related to the bonus that Mbappe got after his contract period ended, but certainly, one of the reasons PSG wanted to let Mbappe go in this summer's transfer window was a related problem. even that, if the scenario is that Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract. well, the drama of this transfer saga has also surfaced. but what is clear, that it is not as easy as the club wants to sell their star players. in the end, the final decision rests with the player. but what is certain, Mbappe has said that he will stay with PSG for one more season until his contract ends. with the scenario, he will get a fantastic loyalty bonus.

Now several rumors have been circulating, starting with Al Hilal, Liverpool, now Chelsea have reportedly opened talks to sign the Paris Saint-Germain striker in this summer window. As reported by several news sources referring to journalist Ducan Castles, he reports that Chelsea owner Todd Boehly has opened talks with PSG. I can't confirm whether this news is true or not, but at least the rumors are popping up. we'll see, whether Mbappe will leave or stay.
So far Mbappe has held the key to the situation and he is playing very safe not to make the slightest mistake. The loyalty bonus given to him will add to his savings after leaving PSG and all of that can be obtained if he lasts another season at PSG. I think if PSG want to lower Mbappe's transfer fee this summer, then this problem will be solved soon.

We all know Mbappe just wants to go to Real Madrid and Mbappe may indirectly ask PSG to reduce his price, then that's where Real Madrid will step in and start making offers. The rumors you said are true that Mbappe has been linked with a number of these teams, but the most serious one here is Chelsea because they have the desire to be able to bring in Mbappe at the fee desired by PSG.
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I agree that no team could rival PSG in this league, it doesn't matter if they have Mbappe or not, even without him, they would still be better than every other team. They do not have just a single player, this game is played with 11 players and if your 10 players are better than every other team, then 11th could be worse and you would still be fine.

I know that a lot of people do not understand that but PSG has better players in every position than all of the league and that's why they are going to win it no matter what. Mbappe seems like he will stay for another year, and that means one more year of their championship. Next season we are going to see what happens without Mbappe but I bet it is going to be fine.
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Luis Enrique will not only make PSG dominate Ligue1 next season, but he will also try to make PSG stronger in the UCL next season even though it is a very difficult task because if you only want to make PSG stay strong in Ligue1 I think that it won't be so difficult for Luis Enrique, because as you said PSG are still the strongest team in Ligue1 because the others are still quite weak.
PSG have dominance in Ligue 1 almost every season and not special achievement if Luis Henrique winning domestic league only next season because all previous manager success winning domestic league. Has bigger ambition from PSG become the winner in UEFA Champion League next season and Luis Henrique position not secure if fail with highest European competition level. Current PSG manager Christophe Galtier season 2022/23 sacked from his position after failure in UEFA Champion League although winning domestic league, its not really important impressive performance or best achievement in domestic league if PSG fail in Champion League.

I doubt with Luis Henrique winning Champion League for PSG next season after rumor many player leaves PSG and they have loss Lionel Messi for next season.
I think Luis Enrique's arrival to PSG was a bit late, he came to PSG when Messi had already left and Mbappe was also rumored to be leaving the club soon. With the remaining player material it will be very difficult for Luis Enrique to bring PSG to win the UCL, but if you want to win the Ligue 1 trophy there is no doubt at all because previously a coach like Galtier was able to present the trophy to PSG.

Luis Enrique needs time to make PSG a challenger in the UCL, he needs to build squad maturity by increasing the quality of his game to give competition to other favorite teams. Winning the Champions League next season is definitely not achievable for Luis Enrique with PSG, especially since they have just lost several important players and Mbappe will also leave the club soon, these are the rumors currently circulating.
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Kylian Mbappe at the end of his contract will receive a loyalty bonus of 80 million euros and today it is reported that Kylian Mbappe will receive half of his loyalty clause with PSG of 40 million euros. That means PSG has to provide quite a lot of money because the renewal of his contract with Mbappe requires him to guarantee this bonus.

I think saying he wants to stay this far means PSG have to spend that money and indeed this is one of the advantages why Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG before his contract expires. Of course PSG is quite annoyed with this and on the other hand they also made such an agreement. It seems that PSG are no longer comfortable with Mbappe's behavior and want to sell him as soon as possible before Ligue 1 starts in 12 days.
As Mbappe has not extended his contract with PSG despite many attempts, PSG will surely want to sell Mbappe before the start of the new season. Despite a big offer from Saudi, Mbappe did not agree to that offer, due to which the transfer with PSG was not completed. Mbappe may not change clubs in these 12 days as many believe that Mbappe's secret deal with Real Madrid has been completed. If somehow this season starts, Mbappe will be a free agent next season when he can return to his club of his choice. Mbappe may want to take an opportunity such that the former club does not have to pay any transfer fee if he is a free agent member.
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Kylian Mbappe at the end of his contract will receive a loyalty bonus of 80 million euros and today it is reported that Kylian Mbappe will receive half of his loyalty clause with PSG of 40 million euros. That means PSG has to provide quite a lot of money because the renewal of his contract with Mbappe requires him to guarantee this bonus.

I think saying he wants to stay this far means PSG have to spend that money and indeed this is one of the advantages why Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG before his contract expires. Of course PSG is quite annoyed with this and on the other hand they also made such an agreement. It seems that PSG are no longer comfortable with Mbappe's behavior and want to sell him as soon as possible before Ligue 1 starts in 12 days.
I don't understand how PSG owner and stuff are thinking. What's the point of keeping Mbappe while sanctioning him and threatening to eject him from the field? What's the point of waiting for a big deal while your losses are increasing every day? This €40m fidelity clause is just the first part and the second part will follow by the end of August 2023. If they sell him for €60m, they will stay profitable.
A lot of questions without answers and especially about the weird contract terms..
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Kylian Mbappe at the end of his contract will receive a loyalty bonus of 80 million euros and today it is reported that Kylian Mbappe will receive half of his loyalty clause with PSG of 40 million euros. That means PSG has to provide quite a lot of money because the renewal of his contract with Mbappe requires him to guarantee this bonus.

I think saying he wants to stay this far means PSG have to spend that money and indeed this is one of the advantages why Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG before his contract expires. Of course PSG is quite annoyed with this and on the other hand they also made such an agreement. It seems that PSG are no longer comfortable with Mbappe's behavior and want to sell him as soon as possible before Ligue 1 starts in 12 days.

There are various different rumors related to the bonus that Mbappe got after his contract period ended, but certainly, one of the reasons PSG wanted to let Mbappe go in this summer's transfer window was a related problem. even that, if the scenario is that Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract. well, the drama of this transfer saga has also surfaced. but what is clear, that it is not as easy as the club wants to sell their star players. in the end, the final decision rests with the player. but what is certain, Mbappe has said that he will stay with PSG for one more season until his contract ends. with the scenario, he will get a fantastic loyalty bonus.

Now several rumors have been circulating, starting with Al Hilal, Liverpool, now Chelsea have reportedly opened talks to sign the Paris Saint-Germain striker in this summer window. As reported by several news sources referring to journalist Ducan Castles, he reports that Chelsea owner Todd Boehly has opened talks with PSG. I can't confirm whether this news is true or not, but at least the rumors are popping up. we'll see, whether Mbappe will leave or stay.
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PSG has always been a consistent team in the French league. And every season sees the league title won by PSG. Because according to the league PSG is a very strong team considering the strength of this team, other teams do not have such star players that is why this team wins the league title every time. PSG is one of the favorites in the France League next season and PSG will win the title next season. Even if Mbappe leaves PSG, this France League team is the favorite because apart from Mbappe, they have several other famous footballers in their team who have the ability to beat any team in France League.
That's why league 1 being so popular as farmer league. There's no club that has a chance to dominate the league other than PSG. PSG will always be winning the league and qualified for UCL but surprisingly this club has never won UCL since a long time ago.
PSG was strong in league 1 caused by there was not a strong team other than PSG. To be honest, if bundesliga is far better compared with league 1. I have high hopes that Strasbourg will see some significant improvements during the next season as it has been acquired by chelsea.
There will always be a UCL spot for PSG. PSG is still having neymar in the club, If mbappe gonna decide to leave from PSG. it's likely the time for mbappe to leave from the club becomes even closer than before.
I thought that if everything is still on the way right now. No messi no mbappe no problem. PSG can sign new player from another club that has same quality as those guys.

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Luis Enrique will not only make PSG dominate Ligue1 next season, but he will also try to make PSG stronger in the UCL next season even though it is a very difficult task because if you only want to make PSG stay strong in Ligue1 I think that it won't be so difficult for Luis Enrique, because as you said PSG are still the strongest team in Ligue1 because the others are still quite weak.
PSG have dominance in Ligue 1 almost every season and not special achievement if Luis Henrique winning domestic league only next season because all previous manager success winning domestic league. Has bigger ambition from PSG become the winner in UEFA Champion League next season and Luis Henrique position not secure if fail with highest European competition level. Current PSG manager Christophe Galtier season 2022/23 sacked from his position after failure in UEFA Champion League although winning domestic league, its not really important impressive performance or best achievement in domestic league if PSG fail in Champion League.

I doubt with Luis Henrique winning Champion League for PSG next season after rumor many player leaves PSG and they have loss Lionel Messi for next season.
PSG is one of those teams that with manchester united and chelsea lead the list of clubs that have such financial resources but are managed disgracefully in sporting terms. Moreover, the league they compete in is not the most competitive league in the world like the premier league, but the farmers' league. With the way they are going, they will not see the champions league trophy for many more years. You go and make 2 of the biggest transfers of all time to your forward line, but your midfield is a roadblock. Their failure in planning is unbelievable. There are always problems with the sporting directors and technical directors they bring in. Only Tuchel was the right move, and they sent him away even though he was successful and played in the champions league final.

Honestly, whenever I hear farmers league I think about PSG. Because they are certainly not finding any competition in the league. I think that is a big reason why they cannot perform well against big opponents in the Champions League. When we were going to play against weak opponents for the whole season, we were not going to be able to be ready for a bigger appointment. With all the money that they have, they cannot show any results against it. I think those are the reasons why they have become a very hated club all around the world. People are not going to be impressed if you do not bring in success.
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There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.

At this moment PSG still doesn't look promising because maybe, the situation and condition of the team is not entirely good. Although indeed, PSG already has a new coach who has good quality and also, Mbappe is still in the PSG squad. But it seems that Enrique's ability to make PSG consistent also doesn't look promising if I consider the results they got in this pre-season game. So yes, I personally think that because Ligue 1 is a tough competition, it seems that PSG will also find it difficult to get consistently good results next season. Therefore, it seems that there will be other clubs who might be able to take advantage of this situation to be at the top of the standings next season.

PSG is always going to be at the top. Because there are simply no other teams which can actually compete against PSG. At least not in the Ligue 1. And so it honestly does not make sense to expect some other club to outperform PSG. I know that in the upcoming season, there is a chance because a lot of players are actually leaving PSG and the club is also not in a very stable state. but I still do not think that other clubs will be able to take the league title away from PSG. The truth is, PSG's precarious state holds little significance. The crux of the matter lies in the insufficiency of the other clubs. Whenever there is a situation where someone else can actually beat PSG, for some reason that club becomes inconsistent, and PSG takes advantage of that.
Money is an advantage that other teams don't have, and it greatly impacts their ability to have even squad depth. I'm not saying that by having a lot of money they will be able to have even squad depth, it depends on how they use it. But at least they will have a stronger main squad.
There are still many ways to do that, it doesn't always have to be with money, but over the years we see them, the fact that they are still at the same level, from there I start to think that maybe money is something big that will be able to change it.
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Kylian Mbappe at the end of his contract will receive a loyalty bonus of 80 million euros and today it is reported that Kylian Mbappe will receive half of his loyalty clause with PSG of 40 million euros. That means PSG has to provide quite a lot of money because the renewal of his contract with Mbappe requires him to guarantee this bonus.

I think saying he wants to stay this far means PSG have to spend that money and indeed this is one of the advantages why Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG before his contract expires. Of course PSG is quite annoyed with this and on the other hand they also made such an agreement. It seems that PSG are no longer comfortable with Mbappe's behavior and want to sell him as soon as possible before Ligue 1 starts in 12 days.
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Do you think it is inconsistency? Lens finished the season with 84 points, which I think was a quite consistent season for any Ligue 1 team other than PSG. It doesn't matter if it is Olympique Lyon or Marseille or Monaco, the difference here is the money. PSG doesn't have the better coach or anything else that could give them an advantage, but when there is no other club that can compete on eye-level with them in terms of the money, how consistent does a team have to play in order to beat PSG in a season and how bad does PSG have to play? This is unbalanced because of money. Give Messi, Neymar and Mbappe to Lens and I guess they would have won Ligue 1 last season.
Inconsistency is one of Paris' primary challenges, not only in Ligue One, but also in higher-level competitions like as the UEFA Champions League. PSG is used to lifting their local league trophy; now it's time to try out for bigger titles; it's the only evidence that they're developing in their game. PSG in possession of big names in football, but they're still unable to win a significant trophy. They're always competitive, but there are no results to show for it. The president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi should implement enhanced ways to improved their strategy inother to start recording winnings.

The time for trying out to win the Champions League has been high time for a while now. It is not now times. It was time for the last five years or so. What do you think a club is trying out when they buy Mbappe, Neymar and Messi? But it failed miserably except for that one season when they reached the final, which was quite close, frankly.

The inconsistency they have in Ligue 1 goes without consequences, but it doesn't in the Champions League. That's what their issue is. They think that winning Ligue 1 easily should be a good sign to be sufficiently competitive for the Champions League as well, but they aren't.
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Luis Enrique will not only make PSG dominate Ligue1 next season, but he will also try to make PSG stronger in the UCL next season even though it is a very difficult task because if you only want to make PSG stay strong in Ligue1 I think that it won't be so difficult for Luis Enrique, because as you said PSG are still the strongest team in Ligue1 because the others are still quite weak.
PSG have dominance in Ligue 1 almost every season and not special achievement if Luis Henrique winning domestic league only next season because all previous manager success winning domestic league. Has bigger ambition from PSG become the winner in UEFA Champion League next season and Luis Henrique position not secure if fail with highest European competition level. Current PSG manager Christophe Galtier season 2022/23 sacked from his position after failure in UEFA Champion League although winning domestic league, its not really important impressive performance or best achievement in domestic league if PSG fail in Champion League.

I doubt with Luis Henrique winning Champion League for PSG next season after rumor many player leaves PSG and they have loss Lionel Messi for next season.
PSG is one of those teams that with manchester united and chelsea lead the list of clubs that have such financial resources but are managed disgracefully in sporting terms. Moreover, the league they compete in is not the most competitive league in the world like the premier league, but the farmers' league. With the way they are going, they will not see the champions league trophy for many more years. You go and make 2 of the biggest transfers of all time to your forward line, but your midfield is a roadblock. Their failure in planning is unbelievable. There are always problems with the sporting directors and technical directors they bring in. Only Tuchel was the right move, and they sent him away even though he was successful and played in the champions league final.
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We rarely see a different champion in this league from now on. Lille's championship was an example of high consistency. Otherwise they didn't have a squad quality that could even race with PSG's. They showed a much more extra performance in that season to make it to the title. Consistency was the key for them.

However we don't see it from such teams often because it is a really difficult task to perform while you don't have a high level squad. Lens were the team that might have had a chance but they couldn't stay more consistent than PSG. They only needed a few more points while PSG were having a more inconsistent season.
PSG has always been a consistent team in the French league. And every season sees the league title won by PSG. Because according to the league PSG is a very strong team considering the strength of this team, other teams do not have such star players that is why this team wins the league title every time. PSG is one of the favorites in the France League next season and PSG will win the title next season. Even if Mbappe leaves PSG, this France League team is the favorite because apart from Mbappe, they have several other famous footballers in their team who have the ability to beat any team in France League.
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Luis Enrique will not only make PSG dominate Ligue1 next season, but he will also try to make PSG stronger in the UCL next season even though it is a very difficult task because if you only want to make PSG stay strong in Ligue1 I think that it won't be so difficult for Luis Enrique, because as you said PSG are still the strongest team in Ligue1 because the others are still quite weak.
PSG have dominance in Ligue 1 almost every season and not special achievement if Luis Henrique winning domestic league only next season because all previous manager success winning domestic league. Has bigger ambition from PSG become the winner in UEFA Champion League next season and Luis Henrique position not secure if fail with highest European competition level. Current PSG manager Christophe Galtier season 2022/23 sacked from his position after failure in UEFA Champion League although winning domestic league, its not really important impressive performance or best achievement in domestic league if PSG fail in Champion League.

I doubt with Luis Henrique winning Champion League for PSG next season after rumor many player leaves PSG and they have loss Lionel Messi for next season.
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Kylian Mbappe is one of the best players in the PSG team. But Kylian Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG right now. I believe Kylian Mbappe will be the next generation to leave PSG. PSG's aim to do well in the Champions League seems unlikely this season.
Why is it not possible? Is the reason simply because Kylian Mbappe wants to leave PSG, I think this can only be said as speculation because next season PSG could do well in the Champions League because everyone won't know how PSG will perform in the Champions League this season front. Even though it is predicted that if there are not the best players in a team, it will be very difficult for any team to perform well in the Champions League. But who knows if next season PSG's performance will look a little different from next season.
No one actually knows if mbappe really wants to leave PSG or he wants to punish the club and leave as a free agent next season. The whole rumour is becoming complicated and I do not understand what is actually happening. Some years ago PSG gave Kylian one of the finest bid and salary structure in football history and yet he wants to pay them back this way. What wrong has PSG done to him?
If bappe really wants to leave today, he will leave but he is just being silent over the whole issue.
And when you ask the Real Madrid boss, his will say that he does not discuss any footballer that is not in his team.
he would go in free agency, that was the answer.
if you look at the problems between Mbappe and PSG it will be very complicated and maybe you will have a headache understanding it because there is a connection between personal problems and problems with other players so Mbappe best way is to leave for free. its not like PSG leniency but it can be said if he wants to say that he is the best player and a lot of people want him, its not a question of money.
looks a little arrogant but many admit that he has good quality talent so if he feels he is not valued anymore in his own team he will prove that way and even though it is not the best way but indeed this is his decision.

but lets see what happens because we really dont know the real story and whether what I'm saying is true.
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Kylian Mbappe is one of the best players in the PSG team. But Kylian Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG right now. I believe Kylian Mbappe will be the next generation to leave PSG. PSG's aim to do well in the Champions League seems unlikely this season.
Why is it not possible? Is the reason simply because Kylian Mbappe wants to leave PSG, I think this can only be said as speculation because next season PSG could do well in the Champions League because everyone won't know how PSG will perform in the Champions League this season front. Even though it is predicted that if there are not the best players in a team, it will be very difficult for any team to perform well in the Champions League. But who knows if next season PSG's performance will look a little different from next season.
No one actually knows if mbappe really wants to leave PSG or he wants to punish the club and leave as a free agent next season. The whole rumour is becoming complicated and I do not understand what is actually happening. Some years ago PSG gave Kylian one of the finest bid and salary structure in football history and yet he wants to pay them back this way. What wrong has PSG done to him?
If bappe really wants to leave today, he will leave but he is just being silent over the whole issue.
And when you ask the Real Madrid boss, his will say that he does not discuss any footballer that is not in his team.
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PSG will always stay on top in Ligue 1. Because the level of the league is not very high.

The reason why PSG didn't succeed in the Champions League is that when you build a team with only money, that team doesn't have cohesion. There are some moments in football and in those moments this thing I'm talking about manifests itself. When you don't play harmoniously in the game, you can't succeed in the big championships. Even if you fill the whole team with star players, what the team lacks is cohesion. And you can't buy this harmony with money. Winning trophies in the league means nothing for the Champions League. The level of the league seems very low. That's why they don't succeed in the Champions League.
Maybe not but it's not impossible to happen because last season Lens managed to stick tight because the point difference in the standings is very small, but you are right in saying that competition in Ligue 1 is not high, relatively in every season only 2-3 clubs dominate but in the end winning the league is PSG although sometimes there will be other clubs like Lille and AS Monaco who will win but they will find it difficult to defend the title.
This season PSG will again dominate Ligue 1 and the material of their players who have undergone several changes will not be an obstacle and PSG will win Ligue 1, it's just that for the champions league their strength will still be in doubt, now their new coach is expected to be able to provide something different so that PSG is no longer a mediocre team in the champions league, but to become champions they still need several seasons because it is the most stringent competition in Europe all the strong teams in their respective leagues gather to get the championship title.
It seems that PSG have started to change their strategy by no longer gathering star players at the club with the aim of winning the champion's league and indeed such a strategy should not be carried out because maintaining a team with more star players is more difficult to do.
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I wonder in what sense this is a trio of "dream"? They showed very average results (and the results are the most important thing if we talk about sports and not about brands) and by the way, if you remember, they had very long periods when the three of them played significantly worse than when, for various reasons, one of this trio on field was missing.
People called that world class trio. that's trio MNM.  Cheesy that reminds me when people were over hyping and they said that if PSG will be winning everything. I talked with some friends in the past and they were saying if PSG would become the best team in the world with trio MNM.
The fact that if PSG was only able winning farmer league which has been repeating so many times. If PSG continues to win only the Farmer's League, it wouldn't be surprising if they perform worse than before.

This kind of trio will be gone soon. It's a matter of time till mbappe gonna leave from PSG to join in the new club. It will be also make the club to be even worst.
As you can see that how difficult PSG is to win against mediocre team from asia. That proves that how bad this club is right now. No hype anymore for PSG. Mbappe gonna leave soon and no more league 1 trophy, probably.
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We rarely see a different champion in this league from now on. Lille's championship was an example of high consistency. Otherwise they didn't have a squad quality that could even race with PSG's. They showed a much more extra performance in that season to make it to the title. Consistency was the key for them.

However we don't see it from such teams often because it is a really difficult task to perform while you don't have a high level squad. Lens were the team that might have had a chance but they couldn't stay more consistent than PSG. They only needed a few more points while PSG were having a more inconsistent season.
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