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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
Correct, dude. PSG was great before Kylian Mbappe signed. Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Edinson Cavani, and Neymar JR fill me with longing. Their enormous pockets have helped them attract big personalities.

Is money always power? Just because PSG keeps attracting players doesnt imply they'll join. A team's success isn't only about getting big names. It also depends on teamwork.

Mbappe's possible departure saddens me. However, PSG has withstood star player losses before. They'll have a steep climb, especially in the Champions League, but should we give up on them? I'd wait.

So far I don't really follow public opinion on the issue "Mbappe doesn't want to extend his contract / Mbappe doesn't want to play for PSG again, and so on" because he is a top player right now so I don't want to overdo it because there will always be controversial news related to him with a specific purpose. What is clear is that I was refer to the situation of PSG and Mbappe in the previous agreement, where more than 80% predicted he would leave the club at that time but the opposite happen.
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You are all greatly exaggerating. Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Mendes, Hakimi are big players and many of them are young and have every opportunity to progress. There is also Veratti, Vitinho and some other close players. If Mbappe leaves, then obviously he will be replaced by someone, and even if it is an “average” player (of course, it is almost impossible to completely replace Mbappe), all together, with the right leadership, they will represent a serious force in Europe, it’s not even worth talking about Ligue 1 I see.
Did you hear about Marco Veratti rumor to close with one Saudi Pro League teams? he has reached verbal agreement and seems close for leaving PSG next season. I don't doubt with current PSG player composition right now like Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Neymar, Mendes, Hakim and Assensio but they don't have enough for guarantee PSG winning Champion League next season? Ligue 1 is not excited right now for PSG because they won many domestic league tittle and actually their fans huge expected for winning Champion League.

PSG have to show their capacity not only strong in domestic league but also have motivate for winning Champion League tittles, if not problem with many star player leaves, PSG have improve performance and lead to Champion League final for next season.

Even if you have two Mbappe, two Haaland, two Casemiro, two KDB in your team, the Champions League title will not be guaranteed - there is a high degree of randomness. The conversation was about something else. The fact that PSG is a team of one person and if Mbappe leaves then PSG will not be able to win Ligue 1. This is complete nonsense in my opinion and PSG will continue to dominate as before.
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
I don't know why people make such a bogus statement. How can you say that without Mbappe,  PSG will not exist?
Have you forgotten that PSG has already existed for long and has been doing well before mbappe. PSG has been winning their local League and also advancing to a very good level in the Champions League.
There is no doubt that Mbappe is a very good player, but he has brought nothing in PSG rather than expensive salary and division among the team members.
We need to know that Kylian Mbappe joined Paris SG in 2018 and before joining this club Paris SG already had very good quality and always got the top places in the French league and the arrival of Kylian Mbappe had no effect whatsoever and was still the same as a league title local without being able to get the European league title or the champions league.
So it's not surprising that Paris SG sold Mbappe to make more profit, even though it was very hard for Paris SG fans, but we have to understand the policy of Paris SG officials because the presence of Kylian Mbappe does not provide any surprises.
Most of us might think that Paris SG without Mbappe is like a dead club but make no mistake that is wrong thinking because there are still many other players who have good quality and I see that Paris SG management always maintains the quality of the performance of its players so that they always have an effort for every change season
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Luis Enrique definitely has reasons for this but this defeat doesn't need to be regretted and of course in the future PSG can still play with their main players.
At least in this match PSG can still compete by scoring 2 goals even though they had to concede 3 goals until the round 2 finished.
I also salute Shinji Kagawa for managing to play well enough to even contribute 1 goal and at the age of 34, Shinji Kagawa can still keep up with the games of other young players.
Enrique must be solving the problems in the club as soon as possible. I meant if we must aware of how bad the performance from PSG during the pre season. PSG has been using a lot of its main players in the match against japanese team.
The problem is i have seen so many non synchronized pass in the PSG. The club needs more time to build its chemistry. I guess that if everything will be fine but it may take more time for PSG to build its momentum.
The fact that if PSG's attacking line looked so weak without mbappe. PSG must be thinking again before try to sell mbappe.
The club has proven if mbappe's performance is very important for PSG at this moment.
I have the thought that Luis Enrique wants some to show some skill and try to play without PSG's star players.
Actually, this decision was quite good because in the future the players would not be too dependent on other star players when a problem occurred, such as several star players leaving or getting injured.
Indeed, Mbappe played a very important role for PSG and from that match it was clear that PSG's attack line was not optimal.

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I think Luis Enrique's decision to not start star players of Paris Saint Germaine in their preseason matches is because of the fact that he wants pick the best players from the younger members of the team.
Enrique surely knows what he's doing and would definitely be successful in his time at the French capital. He's simply applying his personal football philosophy and hopefully it'll yield great results
So, that's my thought right now because young players also need more experience so there's no need to hope or depend on star players in their club.
I don't think badly of Luis Enrique's decision in that match and there was an advantage from that game that when PSG play with other young players they have more confidence.

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Yes I agree with what you said, that this defeat shouldn't be overly regretted, because if they do that I don't think it will be good for the development of the squad. They can look at this result with the reasoning that they will make it a motivation so that they can play better in the future.
I understand this is unexpected, and surely for their fans who want to always see their proud club win in every match will definitely be disappointed. But this is just a pre-season match, there is still time for them to improve what is lacking from what they have at the moment.
But many fans from PSG were so disappointed by the defeat and they didn't believe PSG had lost this pre-season game.
If only fans can have good thoughts then they can understand and understand that PSG is conducting trials playing with their young players with good goals for the future.
When playing in an official league, I'm sure PSG can give satisfactory results and use their flagship players.
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There are about 2 weeks left for all clubs to prepare before their first match. Paris Saint Germain have always occupied a prime spot in this title race, although with their current situation it hasn't stopped them from moving from their rightful place.
The question is for other clubs, there is always the inconsistency looming over the clubs that will be the competitors of Paris Saint Germain. Like last season for example, they could have become champions taking advantage of Paris Siant Germain's instability, but they couldn't because they slipped up many times.
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Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...
Even after giving so much money, privileges and power, PSG could not become a club of his own mind, that's why Mbappe is planning to change the club while he has a contract with PSG. Surely the current club will not take kindly to a player secretly discussing arguments with the other team after placing him in the team with so much power and privileges. Mbappe believes he can't achieve anything at PSG, which is why he wants to move to Real Madrid. In other seasons, PSG has made all kinds of preparations to keep Mbappe in the team, but if there are rumors of Mbappe's club change, PSG is not planning to keep Mbappe, that is, PSG will let Mbappe go if they get enough transfer price.

I think it should first be defined what success for PSG really means. Is the Champions League title the only title that counts for them? Then yes, they have failed, but they still have dominated Ligue 1. Although they also failed to win the Coup de France for the last two seasons when Messi, Neymar and Mbappe were there. It is a failed project to a certain degree before it even started because when you are building the best squad in the world with money and then have that squad play against way inferior teams all year long except for the Champions League, I believe that those top players lack high level competition to also be able to perform on the highest level.
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
I don't know why people make such a bogus statement. How can you say that without Mbappe,  PSG will not exist?
Have you forgotten that PSG has already existed for long and has been doing well before mbappe. PSG has been winning their local League and also advancing to a very good level in the Champions League.
There is no doubt that Mbappe is a very good player, but he has brought nothing in PSG rather than expensive salary and division among the team members.
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In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

PSG will always exist. It's a club and you can't even compare it with mbappe. Mbappe's name being so big after PSG has been making him to be the biggest transfer in the history of football. He gained so much popularity. His popularity was even bigger once he was also winning world cup with france in 2018. PSG just need to let him go and find his replacement. The club must never ever try to buy a new player with a non sense price like mbappe and neymar. It's just destroying the price of football players in the market.
The club signed Mbappe and other big names, but now they're focusing on adapting to the new era by mixing old and young players who can be long-term assets. PSG already prepared some names to replace mbappe as soon as possible.
The club is still waiting for an answer from mbappe regarding his future. Mbappe already rejected saudi's offer which was very bad for the club.
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Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...
Even after giving so much money, privileges and power, PSG could not become a club of his own mind, that's why Mbappe is planning to change the club while he has a contract with PSG. Surely the current club will not take kindly to a player secretly discussing arguments with the other team after placing him in the team with so much power and privileges. Mbappe believes he can't achieve anything at PSG, which is why he wants to move to Real Madrid. In other seasons, PSG has made all kinds of preparations to keep Mbappe in the team, but if there are rumors of Mbappe's club change, PSG is not planning to keep Mbappe, that is, PSG will let Mbappe go if they get enough transfer price.
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Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.

Obviously, Mbappe sees that Real have a better chance of winning the Champions League as this will be Ancelotti's last season with the team and he will probably want to win La Liga and the Champions League. But in that case, does PSG need a player who has more faith in another team than in his own? Moreover, PSG gave Mbappe a lot, status and a lot of money. But now it is clear that the relationship is damaged, since Mbappe is not preparing with the team for the new season, it is similar to what happened with Ronaldo at Manchester United...
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In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
What do you think before? On what basis did you say that the team will not exist if Mbappe leaves? It sounds like Mbappe is the only player in the team. If Mbappe leaves Paris, PSG will replace him with another player in exchange for money. And we still consider Neymar a world-class player. If Neymar can play the entire season without injury, then the Brazilian superstar will make it possible to surpass all the stars. A team never depends on one player. Mbappe is a good player but Mbappe can't do anything for the team alone.
Basically PSG wants to keep Mbappe by submitting a new contract renewal, and hopes to win the Champions League next season. However this plan did not go as expected, PSG automatically had to act to cash in on Mbappe this summer. It is possible that Mbappe saw a greater chance of winning the Champions League if he was in Madrid uniform not with PSG.

The PSG president himself has said that no player should feel bigger than the club, this statement is certainly for Mbappe. I think PSG can realize their various ambitions even though without Mbappe, it will be easier for them to play fully as a club rather than prioritizing one player during matches.
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Mbappe's absence will surely cause PSG to lose power. However it isn't the end of the world for PSG either. They couldn't become champions in the Champions League even with Mbappe. It has been related to the management style of the team more than anything. Now Mbappe is entering his last season here.

In his last season he is going to play under Luis Enrique's management. If we see Enrique as the right man for PSG to become really competitive for the Champions League title maybe they can finally win it in presence of Mbappe as well.
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In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.
What do you think before? On what basis did you say that the team will not exist if Mbappe leaves? It sounds like Mbappe is the only player in the team. If Mbappe leaves Paris, PSG will replace him with another player in exchange for money. And we still consider Neymar a world-class player. If Neymar can play the entire season without injury, then the Brazilian superstar will make it possible to surpass all the stars. A team never depends on one player. Mbappe is a good player but Mbappe can't do anything for the team alone.
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Another bad result from PSG. It was losing against cerezo ozaka.



I saw that if PSG has been using all of its new players. The team was dominating the match but it keeps lose against CRZ. CRZ was only able doing counter attack but i must admit that if almost all of counter attacks made by CRZ has very high accuracy.
So many shoots on target being made by CRZ unlike PSG which is only a few from so many shoots. The performance from PSG is still far from what i have expected.

Ugarte, asensio, and so many great players already played against CRZ but the result was still the same. CRZ was beating PSG. So many people were also showing their disappointed in various online media like youtube.
This is only a friendly match but it means a lot for me. A big team like PSG might able to beat CRZ easily but it does nothing against CRZ.

PSG loses its souls in the attacking lines.

I know it's just a friendly match between these two teams but still, I was expecting to see PSG winning this game against this Asian team because both teams are in training camps and both are in the same situation because PSG had more possession in this game and CRZ used the goal opportunities very well.  

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Aubameyang must be really contented with leaving Chelsea now. Because he has really wasted his time there without playing properly. Lewandowski's arrival at Barcelona brought about really bad series of events for Aubameyang clearly. I'm at least happy for him that he found a club for himself this summer and didn't stay at Chelsea any longer.

Marseille is his new home now. He is technically back in France after years at the same time. You know that Lacazette has also returned here and he has been like a goal machine since the day he arrived. I would like to see the same effort from Aubameyang but let's see.
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.

First of all there is now an additional competitor when it comes to money and that are the clubs from Saudi Arabia and then there is still Neymar. But they will have problems next season for sure. Maybe not so much in Ligue 1 games, but the Champions League can't be one of their main goals. I don't know how they would even make it into the final or the semi-final with the team that is left when Mbappe is gone and Messi is gone. Especially Mbappe was the one who took them through the Champions League stages in the most important games and with Messi also gone, a world class player who is able to provide excellent assists is also missing.
I'm sure without Messi and Mbappe, PSG will be in serious trouble. Neymar is of course a good player, but still without the main strikers they will have difficulties too. I think we will see something similar to what happened with Barcelona after Messi left or Liverpool when Mane left. They probably won't be able to win the League next season.

If Neymar decides to stay at PSG or if it is just not up for debate to leave the club, I am sure that he will quickly realize in the first few gams of next season that the players next to him or those he could assists or receives assists from are not Mbappe and Messi anymore. I think for Neymar it must feel like a whole different game as he himself has the quality to understand the game mechanics on the level of Mbappe and to some degree on the level of Messi. I bet he is carefully observing the situation with Mbappe and trying to make sure he is not left behind and without any chance for big titles next season.
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It seems true. I saw so many differences when PSG was still having mbappe and messi compared when PSG didn't have those players. The performance from the attacking lines have been dropping so hard. The ability to make goals become very small.
In fact, when PSG still had Messi, Mbappe, and also Neymar, who could be considered football superstars at that time, they were unable to win the UCL. And their performance is also not as good as expected. Indeed, the many football stars in the same position do not guarantee that the club will always be strong. And right now, they have lost Messi, and they will most likely miss Mbappe as well. only Neymar is left, but not optimal either. I don't know how they will be. Maybe they will stay good in French soccer. but whether it can compete or not in the UCL.
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You are all greatly exaggerating. Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Mendes, Hakimi are big players and many of them are young and have every opportunity to progress. There is also Veratti, Vitinho and some other close players. If Mbappe leaves, then obviously he will be replaced by someone, and even if it is an “average” player (of course, it is almost impossible to completely replace Mbappe), all together, with the right leadership, they will represent a serious force in Europe, it’s not even worth talking about Ligue 1 I see.
Did you hear about Marco Veratti rumor to close with one Saudi Pro League teams? he has reached verbal agreement and seems close for leaving PSG next season. I don't doubt with current PSG player composition right now like Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Neymar, Mendes, Hakim and Assensio but they don't have enough for guarantee PSG winning Champion League next season? Ligue 1 is not excited right now for PSG because they won many domestic league tittle and actually their fans huge expected for winning Champion League.

PSG have to show their capacity not only strong in domestic league but also have motivate for winning Champion League tittles, if not problem with many star player leaves, PSG have improve performance and lead to Champion League final for next season.
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PSG is nothing without mbappe. it's just an ordinary club without superstars. Enrique will not be able to assemble a good squad caused by that.

Really, the fact is that Paris Saint Germain already dominated the French 1 League especially before Kylian Mbappe joined, PSG was still the favorite to win even though at that time there was no Mbappe. If you trace the history of the club, PSG has always had superstars in every era such as Pauleta, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, after that there is Edinson Cavani, Neymar JR, and finally Kylian Mbappe. It will always breed new superstars for PSG because they have the money to tie up potential superstars, like you said. It's only a matter of time.
In fact, if Mbappe left PSG, I think PSG would not exist. There are no world class players in the team. So if PSG want to do well this season, there is no option to keep Mbappe in the team.

You are all greatly exaggerating. Donnarumma, Marquinhos, Skriniar, Mendes, Hakimi are big players and many of them are young and have every opportunity to progress. There is also Veratti, Vitinho and some other close players. If Mbappe leaves, then obviously he will be replaced by someone, and even if it is an “average” player (of course, it is almost impossible to completely replace Mbappe), all together, with the right leadership, they will represent a serious force in Europe, it’s not even worth talking about Ligue 1 I see.
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Lately PSG are looking for new recruits and they started bidding for Bradley Barcola from Lyon at a cost of 30 million euros, but it didn't take long for Lyon to immediately reject the offer. This did not make PSG give up and they tried to activate the release of Dembele's clause from Barcelona at a cost of 50 million euros, but the player also refused this offer because he wanted to stay at Barcelona.

I think PSG are trying hard to find a replacement for Mbappe if he does leave this summer. Maybe if the offer for Bradley Barcola is rejected, PSG will have to make a new, higher bid if they really need the services of this player and considering he is still 20 years old, of course Lyon also doesn't want to lose, their players are only priced cheaply by PSG.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1685358467614121984
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