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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 12, 2024, 11:02:57 AM

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It seems like there is nothing to worry about PSG's schedule in September although indeed, PSG has a schedule to play in the Champions League but still, PSG can still be sure to win. Playing against Brest in Ligue 1 and then playing against Girona in the Champions League is no problem because obviously, PSG still has a better chance because PSG also still has good quality compared to Brest and Girona. Not only that, because in the match against Brest and then against Girona, the fact is that PSG is also playing at home.

I agree, but in football there is no such thing as coincidence. On paper PSG has a great chance to win the two matches we discussed. On the field, the situation can change. Okay, defeating Brest, we can understand it because they were previously slaughtered by Marseille. Theoretically, PSG can win that match by a landslide. But in the Champions League, the atmosphere is different. Even though PSG is playing at home and is in a positive trend, Girona can also surprise. Although in terms of opportunities, Girona's chances of defeating PSG will be very difficult. But as we know, in football it is unique and things often happen that are beyond prediction. One more thing, Michel, Girona's coach is a smart coach. But okay, we agree, however Paris Saint-Germain is in very good form. It seems that the two matches are not a problem for Luiz Enrique's team.

PSG's current performance is positive, losing Mbappe did not make PSG decline, from 3 matches in League 1 they were able to collect 13 goals, their productivity is no longer in doubt.
Against Brest in week 4 the results are already visible, PSG will likely win big.
Regarding the UCL I agree this is a different level even though on paper PSG is superior to Girona but we must remember that the La Liga team is very tough and often provides surprises, PSG must be more vigilant and maximize the advantage as the host.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 12, 2024, 06:58:19 AM

PSG became the champions in 6 of the previous 7 seasons. That is a huge domination but a boring one at the same time. There is no real competition in the Ligue 1 for years but like I have said many times, there is nothing we can do about it. Sad

But at least it is going to be more fun to watch PSG from now on as it seems. Because we have a more complete team. Honestly I was also one of the people who doubted them after Mbappe left. But I admit I was totally wrong. Now they are literally set free after his departure. Tongue

I always say that though, relying on one player is never the right thing to do for any team. No matter how rich your team is, you need to care about the whole team rather than only specific individuals.

Although previously I also doubted PSG regarding Mbappe departure, but at the same time at that time I also thought maybe PSG would be better without Mbappe because PSG would play as a whole team and would certainly be better. An example happened to Tottenham at that time when Kane left but Tottenham managed to have good started in the new season with his new manager at that time, at least at the beginning of the season when Tottenham also managed to be at the top of the Premier League standings. But unfortunately, because the competition in the Premier League is very difficult, it makes Tottenham also fail to maintain this good performance.

But when it comes to PSG, then of course PSG will manage to maintain its top position in the Ligue 1 standings, because basically PSG is the best team in Ligue 1. So yes, even though this looks quite boring but for me personally it doesn't matter because with the high dominance that PSG has in Ligue 1,it will certainly make other teams also make their best efforts to be able to provide difficult resistance to PSG, and that remains interesting to me.

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I also see this in PSG now, PSG is better without star players because in the last few matches PSG has always won big. It can be said that PSG without Mbappe plays more freely, more collectively, so their game is compact. In the squad if there is a player who is too favored and has a very high salary with other players, it will not be good for team cohesion and Enrique is aware of that. Enrique is indeed the type of coach who prefers team cohesion rather than relying on individuals, very different from previous coaches, this was also seen when Mbappe was still at PSG, he did not rely too much on one player.

Enrique is indeed known to be extraordinary in building cohesion within a team and this has been seen again in PSG now so it is also very natural that PSG wins a lot without the influence of any individual because all players try to play as well as possible in every match there is. I also want PSG to be much stronger than last season so that there will be tougher competition in the Champions League later because in Ligue 1 PSG only face ordinary teams where PSG can win a lot without pressing with deadly attacks.

PSG has won their first 3 matches this season with big scores and this shows that losing Mbappe has not had a negative impact on their attack line so far in ligue 1, but I think we can't deny that Ligue 1 trophies is actually not be main target from PSG at the moment, the big victory achieved by PSG in Ligue 1 is not something that has surprised us so far because Ligue 1 is not a very competitive league and makes it difficult for PSG to achieve every victory and championship trophy, but I think losing Mbappe will have a big impact when they play in the Champions League, Enrique is an experienced coach but we don't It can be denied that without a qualified squad, of course they won't be able to win the championship trophy later, so I think without players who are able to make a lot of difference, of course it will be difficult for PSG to be able to compete in the Champions League, which contains great clubs from Europe so far...!

You cannot conclude that PSG will not be able to win UCL without professional players because with all the professional players that they had in the past, they were still unable to win UCL that season. I could remember when PSG was having Mbappe, Messi and Neymar were PSG the club performance was very poor in UCL that season.

Enrique might be able to use his own team that he will build in future to win UCL because I see that he is a good coach, and he is improving the performance of the team gradually for a better result tomorrow.

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Quote from: hahay on September 11, 2024, 02:37:45 PM

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It seems like there is nothing to worry about PSG's schedule in September although indeed, PSG has a schedule to play in the Champions League but still, PSG can still be sure to win. Playing against Brest in Ligue 1 and then playing against Girona in the Champions League is no problem because obviously, PSG still has a better chance because PSG also still has good quality compared to Brest and Girona. Not only that, because in the match against Brest and then against Girona, the fact is that PSG is also playing at home.

I agree, but in football there is no such thing as coincidence. On paper PSG has a great chance to win the two matches we discussed. On the field, the situation can change. Okay, defeating Brest, we can understand it because they were previously slaughtered by Marseille. Theoretically, PSG can win that match by a landslide. But in the Champions League, the atmosphere is different. Even though PSG is playing at home and is in a positive trend, Girona can also surprise. Although in terms of opportunities, Girona's chances of defeating PSG will be very difficult. But as we know, in football it is unique and things often happen that are beyond prediction. One more thing, Michel, Girona's coach is a smart coach. But okay, we agree, however Paris Saint-Germain is in very good form. It seems that the two matches are not a problem for Luiz Enrique's team.

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Quote from: wmaurik on September 12, 2024, 04:38:06 AM

PSG's move to focus more on the Champions League is very appropriate because in Ligue 1 no team has been able to surpass PSG until this season and Brest itself will also be quite overwhelmed when having to face a team like PSG who in general have been much more consistent in playing in Ligue 1 this season. In addition, the next match for PSG is to be the home team with Brest as their guest and that certainly will not make PSG afraid because PSG is always better when playing at home with any opponent in Ligue 1.

Focusing on the champions League may not really be a bad idea but at this point I don't agree that it should be a primary focus for PSG as it may turn out just putting efforts at points where you may not really get the kind of productivity you expected especially as the team is having to deal with reshuffle that happened in the team over the transfer window recently, it will be more productive if they rather focus on the team build and making up for a few vacuums they have got and probably an intensed attempt in subsequent season would work much better than this season, although there's no limitations to the much they can achieve in a. Season especially if they put their mind to it depending on their strategy for the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 11, 2024, 06:31:11 AM

[...] Marseille have started the season better. They look more productive when it comes to scoring. They have conceded the same amount of goals about defending. However Marseille can't beat Nice home for two games. Do you think they will break this bad streak? [...]

It's clear that the upcoming clash between Olympique Marseille and Nice at Stade Vélodrome on September 14, 2024, promises to be an exciting match. Olympique Marseille, currently sitting 2nd in the Ligue 1 standings with 7 points, have shown impressive form in front of goal, scoring 2 or more goals in 5 of their last 6 matches. Their attacking threat will certainly be a key factor in this game.

On the other hand, Nice, sitting in 8th place with 4 points, have been involved in high-scoring matches themselves, with over 2.5 goals being scored in 4 of their last 6 league fixtures. Despite this, they have struggled to find consistency, especially against stronger opponents like Marseille.

Marseille's attacking prowess combined with their home advantage gives them an additional morale, although Nice’s ability to be part of high-scoring encounters suggests this could be a match full of goals. It will be a test of whether Nice can withstand Marseille’s offensive firepower.

If you ask me about score predictions based on the statistics above, also with Mason Greenwood being on fire. Maybe the result will be a 1 - 1 draw, considering that Marseille is also inconsistent in their home matches.

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PSG became the champions in 6 of the previous 7 seasons. That is a huge domination but a boring one at the same time. There is no real competition in the Ligue 1 for years but like I have said many times, there is nothing we can do about it. Sad

But at least it is going to be more fun to watch PSG from now on as it seems. Because we have a more complete team. Honestly I was also one of the people who doubted them after Mbappe left. But I admit I was totally wrong. Now they are literally set free after his departure. Tongue

I always say that though, relying on one player is never the right thing to do for any team. No matter how rich your team is, you need to care about the whole team rather than only specific individuals.

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Quote from: wmaurik on September 12, 2024, 04:38:06 AM

PSG's move to focus more on the Champions League is very appropriate because in Ligue 1 no team has been able to surpass PSG until this season and Brest itself will also be quite overwhelmed when having to face a team like PSG who in general have been much more consistent in playing in Ligue 1 this season. In addition, the next match for PSG is to be the home team with Brest as their guest and that certainly will not make PSG afraid because PSG is always better when playing at home with any opponent in Ligue 1.

Shifting 70% focus on the Champions League Competition would be great, but I'm not convinced with the squad. They should have gotten Victor Oshime from Napoli. The both strikers they have are not big game players like Victor Oshime. They would definitely go far this season in the Champions League Competition but winning it? It comes with a lot, sacrifice and special players in the squad who are all hardworking. Winning the League 1 Competition is nothing no new news to them truthfully. Brest did great last season, I don't know if they can do same this season.

First season in the League 1 Competition and he'll gradually become the face of French League 1 Competition and Football. He's scored five goals in the first three fixtures and I have no doubts hell do same again after international break.

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Quote from: Inwestour on September 12, 2024, 04:55:14 AM

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PSG's move to focus more on the Champions League is very appropriate because in Ligue 1 no team has been able to surpass PSG until this season and Brest itself will also be quite overwhelmed when having to face a team like PSG who in general have been much more consistent in playing in Ligue 1 this season. In addition, the next match for PSG is to be the home team with Brest as their guest and that certainly will not make PSG afraid because PSG is always better when playing at home with any opponent in Ligue 1.

PSG have been focusing on the Champions League games for the last few years, because they don't have enough competition in Ligue 1 to put more effort into it than they do. And PSG rarely had any problems in the group stage, the main difficulty starts at the playoff stage. I think Enrique will play to win against Brest, because they don't have such a big advantage over their opponents in Ligue 1, PSG will most likely try to score a few quick goals and then calmly bring this match to victory.

Almost every season their main focus is the Champions League, but unfortunately they have not been able to get what they have always wanted so far. They may be unbeatable and a superior team in Ligue 1, but in the Champions League there are many competitors who are even better than them.
Enrique has a difficult task to be able to bring Paris Saint-Germain to achieve success, it is not something impossible, but it will be very difficult for them to do, especially since some teams have very good strengths such as Manchester City, Real Madrid and others. In the early stages they usually find it easy to qualify for the next round, but when they enter the knockout stages they start to lose their balance and eventually have to be eliminated.

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Quote from: wmaurik on September 12, 2024, 04:38:06 AM

PSG's move to focus more on the Champions League is very appropriate because in Ligue 1 no team has been able to surpass PSG until this season and Brest itself will also be quite overwhelmed when having to face a team like PSG who in general have been much more consistent in playing in Ligue 1 this season. In addition, the next match for PSG is to be the home team with Brest as their guest and that certainly will not make PSG afraid because PSG is always better when playing at home with any opponent in Ligue 1.

PSG have been focusing on the Champions League games for the last few years, because they don't have enough competition in Ligue 1 to put more effort into it than they do. And PSG rarely had any problems in the group stage, the main difficulty starts at the playoff stage. I think Enrique will play to win against Brest, because they don't have such a big advantage over their opponents in Ligue 1, PSG will most likely try to score a few quick goals and then calmly bring this match to victory.

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This week they will face Brest, although Brest cannot be underestimated because last season they managed to enter the UCL league zone, but I am pessimistic if they can maintain that position until the end of the season because usually teams like Brest are only good seasonally. Even so, I think PSG will pursue victory in this match. Because in my opinion PSG's mission this season is not to focus on league 1, but they will try their best to be consistent in order to get lots of points so that they are further away from other teams, they can focus on the UCL league because it must be admitted that PSG's current focus is the UCL league trophy.

PSG's move to focus more on the Champions League is very appropriate because in Ligue 1 no team has been able to surpass PSG until this season and Brest itself will also be quite overwhelmed when having to face a team like PSG who in general have been much more consistent in playing in Ligue 1 this season. In addition, the next match for PSG is to be the home team with Brest as their guest and that certainly will not make PSG afraid because PSG is always better when playing at home with any opponent in Ligue 1.

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I also see this in PSG now, PSG is better without star players because in the last few matches PSG has always won big. It can be said that PSG without Mbappe plays more freely, more collectively, so their game is compact. In the squad if there is a player who is too favored and has a very high salary with other players, it will not be good for team cohesion and Enrique is aware of that. Enrique is indeed the type of coach who prefers team cohesion rather than relying on individuals, very different from previous coaches, this was also seen when Mbappe was still at PSG, he did not rely too much on one player.

Enrique is indeed known to be extraordinary in building cohesion within a team and this has been seen again in PSG now so it is also very natural that PSG wins a lot without the influence of any individual because all players try to play as well as possible in every match there is. I also want PSG to be much stronger than last season so that there will be tougher competition in the Champions League later because in Ligue 1 PSG only face ordinary teams where PSG can win a lot without pressing with deadly attacks.

PSG has won their first 3 matches this season with big scores and this shows that losing Mbappe has not had a negative impact on their attack line so far in ligue 1, but I think we can't deny that Ligue 1 trophies is actually not be main target from PSG at the moment, the big victory achieved by PSG in Ligue 1 is not something that has surprised us so far because Ligue 1 is not a very competitive league and makes it difficult for PSG to achieve every victory and championship trophy, but I think losing Mbappe will have a big impact when they play in the Champions League, Enrique is an experienced coach but we don't It can be denied that without a qualified squad, of course they won't be able to win the championship trophy later, so I think without players who are able to make a lot of difference, of course it will be difficult for PSG to be able to compete in the Champions League, which contains great clubs from Europe so far...!

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Quote from: Mame89 on September 11, 2024, 11:58:05 PM

I also see this in PSG now, PSG is better without star players because in the last few matches PSG has always won big. It can be said that PSG without Mbappe plays more freely, more collectively, so their game is compact. In the squad if there is a player who is too favored and has a very high salary with other players, it will not be good for team cohesion and Enrique is aware of that. Enrique is indeed the type of coach who prefers team cohesion rather than relying on individuals, very different from previous coaches, this was also seen when Mbappe was still at PSG, he did not rely too much on one player.

Enrique is indeed known to be extraordinary in building cohesion within a team and this has been seen again in PSG now so it is also very natural that PSG wins a lot without the influence of any individual because all players try to play as well as possible in every match there is. I also want PSG to be much stronger than last season so that there will be tougher competition in the Champions League later because in Ligue 1 PSG only face ordinary teams where PSG can win a lot without pressing with deadly attacks.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 11, 2024, 06:31:11 AM

What do you think on the Marseille - Nice game to be played in three days? Huh

It is going to be one of the opening games of the fourth week of the season.

Marseille are quite favoured to win the game before anything else. Wink

Marseille have started the season better. They look more productive when it comes to scoring. They have conceded the same amount of goals about defending. However Marseille can't beat Nice home for two games. Do you think they will break this bad streak?

I think they will, honestly. Maybe both teams to score might also be a nice option @1.72.

In H2H both teams have the same results, but Marseille will beat Nice easily. It's quite simple why I say this because I remember someone here reminding me that Greenwood is currently the star of Marseille. Scoring 5 goals in 3 games is something very good. On the one hand if we say about a weak defense, but let's just see Marseille has attackers who are able to equalize between conceding and the number of scores. Marseille has currently scored 10 goals almost equal to PSG. This is an opportunity to get odds @1.79.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 11, 2024, 11:36:47 PM

I don't think there is a better coach than Luis Enrique in coaching this club, previous coaches relied on star players but not with this coach he is not too ambitious to recruit other star players to replace Mbappe I think Luis Enrique is trying a new scheme without star players and seeing how the existing squad is able to give the best performance for the team and now it is proven that the entire PSG squad works well together and the chemistry between the coach and the players is getting better.

I also see this in PSG now, PSG is better without star players because in the last few matches PSG has always won big. It can be said that PSG without Mbappe plays more freely, more collectively, so their game is compact. In the squad if there is a player who is too favored and has a very high salary with other players, it will not be good for team cohesion and Enrique is aware of that. Enrique is indeed the type of coach who prefers team cohesion rather than relying on individuals, very different from previous coaches, this was also seen when Mbappe was still at PSG, he did not rely too much on one player.

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It is difficult to break PSG's dominance if other clubs do not have good resources like PSG especially in terms of experienced players and coaches, even though other clubs try hard to make it difficult for PSG but PSG still appears solid because this club has mastered how the game works in League 1 for years.

It is undeniable that PSG League 1 will always dominate because as you said they have all the advantages compared to other teams in League 1, both in terms of resources and coaches. But they will always have difficulty when playing against teams outside League 1 such as the UCL league. This season will be a challenge for Enrique, can he bring PSG to the best level in the UCL league without many star players?

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Quote from: ancafe on September 11, 2024, 02:02:54 AM

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A big name is just a name, in fact PSG still can't do much even though they have several players with big names, their main problem is the selfishness of their players when PSG has star players in it they really privilege the players and make other players not play optimally because other players feel less confident and they rely on star players to appear stunning in every match, but now PSG no longer has star players who are always privileged now they have players who are no less good than star players and they are treated fairly, so they can work together solidly, if PSG continues like this maybe they can compete well in the UCL and can go further.

To build a stronger team is not easy because the coach must have a special strategy and maybe what happened at PSG was because they were given too much trust in star players. After Luis Enrique came everything was different and he did not privilege one of the players in the team so what happened was that the PSG squad became better than before. Nothing is instant because it takes a lot of things to drive a club's success, as Pep Guardiola did at Manchester City.

I don't think there is a better coach than Luis Enrique in coaching this club, previous coaches relied on star players but not with this coach he is not too ambitious to recruit other star players to replace Mbappe I think Luis Enrique is trying a new scheme without star players and seeing how the existing squad is able to give the best performance for the team and now it is proven that the entire PSG squad works well together and the chemistry between the coach and the players is getting better.

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For the competition in Ligue 1, PSG is still a strong competitor whose dominance is difficult to break by other teams. If management gives time and lets Luis Enrique find the players he needs, it is not impossible that in the next few seasons they will become one of the candidates for the Champions League title.

It is difficult to break PSG's dominance if other clubs do not have good resources like PSG especially in terms of experienced players and coaches, even though other clubs try hard to make it difficult for PSG but PSG still appears solid because this club has mastered how the game works in League 1 for years.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 11, 2024, 06:35:09 PM

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What do you think on the Marseille - Nice game to be played in three days? Huh

It is going to be one of the opening games of the fourth week of the season.

Honestly this is probably the most interesting match for this week. Marseille this season is on fire building the club. on the other hand, last season Nice was in the top 5. only this season, it seems like their journey is not that smooth because they have only won 1x. While Marseille won 2x and drew 1x. So it makes sense if more people favor Marseille.

This is their last 5 matches, it seems that Marseille is getting much better this season than Nice.

Source: Marseille and Nice

Nice is different and is no longer the team they were last season, where they could perform well even though in the end they had to falter and make their position drop towards the end of the season. While this season they have not shown that they are ready for the competition, in just 3 matches they have felt 1 defeat, 1 draw and were able to win 1. Maybe I will change my mind when I see them like last season, but unfortunately they have not been able to show that. Marseille will also act as hosts, that means they will get full support from the fans, that will be a motivation for them to be able to present 3 points to their supporters.

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Quote from: snipie on September 09, 2024, 12:19:10 PM

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So, I'm sure enough that PSG will also beat Brest...

Yeah PSG will indeed beat Brest and maybe badly. What len01 said is interesting. The odds are slim so betting for PSG to win is kinda obvious and not profitable. Betting on the number of goals might be a risky and more profitable move.

Yes, and it would be a huge embarrassment for PSG if they fail to beat Brest in that match. Grin

Yes, and it would be a shame for PSG if they fail to beat Brest in that match. Don't worry, Enrique will make Marquinhos, Dembele, and his friends, the entire squad, perform optimally in all matches. And if they can go unbeaten in the French Ligue 1, that would be even more proud.

Quote from: Velvet78 on September 11, 2024, 06:31:11 AM

What do you think on the Marseille - Nice game to be played in three days? Huh

It is going to be one of the opening games of the fourth week of the season.

Honestly this is probably the most interesting match for this week. Marseille this season is on fire building the club. on the other hand, last season Nice was in the top 5. only this season, it seems like their journey is not that smooth because they have only won 1x. While Marseille won 2x and drew 1x. So it makes sense if more people favor Marseille.

This is their last 5 matches, it seems that Marseille is getting much better this season than Nice.

Source: Marseille and Nice

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 11, 2024, 06:31:11 AM

What do you think on the Marseille - Nice game to be played in three days? Huh

It is going to be one of the opening games of the fourth week of the season.

Marseille are quite favoured to win the game before anything else. Wink

Marseille have started the season better. They look more productive when it comes to scoring. They have conceded the same amount of goals about defending. However Marseille can't beat Nice home for two games. Do you think they will break this bad streak?

I think they will, honestly. Maybe both teams to score might also be a nice option @1.72.

Marseille is obviously in their best moments and are doing so well this season such that I can say they are really looking so promising and would likely do even better than they have done last season at some point I begin to feel they will be able to even contend the trophy this season. My fear still is if this will continue far into the Season for them to give us the kind of expectations we be thinking of them. As it regards Nice fixture against them, I don't know exactly what to expect but if I'm to say any in particular, going by their performance so far, they should be able to scale through with a victory just as they have been doing since this season.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 11, 2024, 05:14:32 AM

big name is just a name. If the bonding between the players in the squad is not good, there is no experienced coach, then even if all the players in the squad are star players, it is not possible to get good performance from this squad. And PSG club can be seen as an example of this. PSG had the best players in the world. But even then this team failed to play well in the Champions League. But this season's scenario is completely different.

This season we see that there is no big star player in PSG's squad. Even PSG lost a player as talented as Mbappe. However, we have not seen any deterioration in PSG's performance. Rather, we see a better performance from PSG this season.

However, PSG's performance has stabilized with the help of Luis Enrique. The bonding between the players is very strong now. PSG's match strategy is also excellent. So PSG has a chance to perform well in Champions League this season.

This is such an important part that everyone should be aware of and get more information about. I mean if we are talking about just people who are doing what they are suppose to do, then you still get better results than some team with stars but not managed properly. Which we saw at PSG a few times with some managers.

I think getting good results all thanks to your star players is not really an achievement when your team spends so much more money. I think we can say that there could have been some seasons where PSG outspent the entire league, would that be possible? I mean maybe that hasn't happened yet, but it's certainly feels like that at times and getting the league title for a team like that is not the achievement.

What else you can do is the thing that matters the most to these teams. I believe that it's not going to be simple for any of the managers to manage such a huge team, but if you can just manage them to do what they suppose to do and put them in their correct roles, it should be great.

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