[FTC] Feathercoin Development Overview - page 8.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 02:50:20 PM

I agree but it appears the slightest amount of opposition in opinion turns some of the FTC supporters here into trolls.

Your opinions are welcome mate but seriously, don't accuse us of trolling when you clearly just came here to poke at the hornets nest.

You've added nothing constructive to the conversation and will continue to run us around in circles. If it were not for the fact that people like yourself help to bump threads where they are visible, I wouldn't even bother.

But because this is sorta really important to the people who have dedicated the last year of all their spare time, I'll humor you for now.

Sorry team - but this is why I never had an account here in the first place.

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Quote from: vizay on July 28, 2014, 05:47:36 PM

Should something have been done earlier, probably.
Is FTC irrelevant, well, I'd say this is decided the same way price for a coin is decided, by anyone and everyone.
It might end up in a big nosedive, or it might be a huge success, nobody knows as of right now. I mean after all, we haven't switched algo yet so how could one know?

I find it interesting that everyone seem to deem the future of a coin purely based on how it's traded right now.

"FTC have a low price and low trading volume, hence it's an irrelevant coin that's going to fade away and die."

Does this really make sense? Will the trading volume or price never go up once it's gone down? I fail to see how this kind of argument is even valid in a discussion like this Huh

With that said, I truly respect your opinion smoothie, however I also truly believe that you're wrong about FTC being irrelevant

Traded right now?

FTC has been in the gutter for months. Hardly a "right now" supposition of price.

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Should something have been done earlier, probably.
Is FTC irrelevant, well, I'd say this is decided the same way price for a coin is decided, by anyone and everyone.
It might end up in a big nosedive, or it might be a huge success, nobody knows as of right now. I mean after all, we haven't switched algo yet so how could one know?

I find it interesting that everyone seem to deem the future of a coin purely based on how it's traded right now.

"FTC have a low price and low trading volume, hence it's an irrelevant coin that's going to fade away and die."

Does this really make sense? Will the trading volume or price never go up once it's gone down? I fail to see how this kind of argument is even valid in a discussion like this Huh

With that said, I truly respect your opinion smoothie, however I also truly believe that you're wrong about FTC being irrelevant

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Quote from: Conqueror on July 28, 2014, 03:56:05 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 02:55:38 PM

Quote from: Fiftysven on July 28, 2014, 09:02:39 AM

Now i wonder what has litecoin done the last few month regarding development? I guess sooner or later Litecoin will get irrelevant....

Obviously you missed the part where Litecoin started with development and foresight into the crypto space before it launched in October 2011. I was there, I would know.

You completely missed my point and mistranslated it as well.

My point was that Feathercoin should have started with much of the changes it is doing now especially with the mining algorithm which would have set it apart from the scrypt coins.

If you do your research you will find that Peter Bushnell (FTC developer) basically copy pasted the entire code base of Litecoin and to the point that his client was getting Litecoin updates through the alert system...which in essence showed how inept he was to make the proper changes at the appropriate time.

The free market has made its choice, and to date it hasn't chosen FTC in any way shape or form:

https://btc-e.com/exchange/ftc_btc

vs

https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc

...as just one example.

Smoothie,

I agree with you that this change should come sooner.
You seems to be pissed off, did you baghold FTC and lost money before?
I remmember you was very active on FTC forum, you have over 300 posts there.

This change is good and FTC will rise in value. Lot of good development is going on and
new talented people are joining our team nowadays for example tmuir12 and Vongiappone.

Please give us peace.
We are performing ressurrection of best coin ever, at least in our eyes.

Thank you.

why would I be mad if I made out well when sold the rest of my FTC roughly one year ago at the spike in early August 2013?

Just calling things as I see it.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 02:55:38 PM

Quote from: Fiftysven on July 28, 2014, 09:02:39 AM

Now i wonder what has litecoin done the last few month regarding development? I guess sooner or later Litecoin will get irrelevant....

Obviously you missed the part where Litecoin started with development and foresight into the crypto space before it launched in October 2011. I was there, I would know.

You completely missed my point and mistranslated it as well.

My point was that Feathercoin should have started with much of the changes it is doing now especially with the mining algorithm which would have set it apart from the scrypt coins.

If you do your research you will find that Peter Bushnell (FTC developer) basically copy pasted the entire code base of Litecoin and to the point that his client was getting Litecoin updates through the alert system...which in essence showed how inept he was to make the proper changes at the appropriate time.

The free market has made its choice, and to date it hasn't chosen FTC in any way shape or form:

https://btc-e.com/exchange/ftc_btc

vs

https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc

...as just one example.

Smoothie,

I agree with you that this change should come sooner.
You seems to be pissed off, did you baghold FTC and lost money before?
I remmember you was very active on FTC forum, you have over 300 posts there.

This change is good and FTC will rise in value. Lot of good development is going on and
new talented people are joining our team nowadays for example tmuir12 and Vongiappone.

Please give us peace.
We are performing ressurrection of best coin ever, at least in our eyes.

Thank you.

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Quote from: Fiftysven on July 28, 2014, 09:02:39 AM

Now i wonder what has litecoin done the last few month regarding development? I guess sooner or later Litecoin will get irrelevant....

Obviously you missed the part where Litecoin started with development and foresight into the crypto space before it launched in October 2011. I was there, I would know.

You completely missed my point and mistranslated it as well.

My point was that Feathercoin should have started with much of the changes it is doing now especially with the mining algorithm which would have set it apart from the scrypt coins.

If you do your research you will find that Peter Bushnell (FTC developer) basically copy pasted the entire code base of Litecoin and to the point that his client was getting Litecoin updates through the alert system...which in essence showed how inept he was to make the proper changes at the appropriate time.

The free market has made its choice, and to date it hasn't chosen FTC in any way shape or form:

https://btc-e.com/exchange/ftc_btc

vs

https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc

...as just one example.

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Quote from: Conqueror on July 28, 2014, 09:41:42 AM

I would like to encourage everybody to keep this discussion in civilized way.
Both FTC fanboys and FTC critics.

No need to attack each other.
It is perfectly ok to present your opinios, however try to do it with glance and do not lose your temper Wink

I agree but it appears the slightest amount of opposition in opinion turns some of the FTC supporters here into trolls.

I just wonder if they are insecure about their investment choices as the price has gone the opposite direction of where most supporters would want it to go.

All I did was present my viewpoint as a long time user of cryptocurrencies and instantly got the troll rant from some users here.

As I said, your insecurity with your investment into FTC is showing clear as day. Grin

Good luck with that.

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Quote from: ChekaZ on July 28, 2014, 08:56:11 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

Quote from: Conqueror on July 28, 2014, 04:55:45 AM

Smothie,

FTC just evolved Scrypt in certain way (completely different from Scrypt-Jane or Scrypt-N), I don't see nothing wrong at it.
In fact Feathercoin just offered whole Scrypt ecosystem new direction.

We should all be happy somebody is trying to push the algo forward and is developing new aplications.
Especially todays when 90% of new coins are complete scam.
I was never biggest Litecoin fan, but I do like your LTC related products.

I will be very hapy to try my GPUs at this algorithm.

1. the new algorithm has not stood the test of time. It is new code and very well may have side effects unforeseen. Who knows.

2. This stuff should have been done long before Feathercoin ever launched (over a year ago) as a copy-paste clone of Litecoin.

3. The direction Feathercoin is going is back into the GPU mining arena and will need to compete with 1000's of new coins that can be mined with GPUs/CPUs. What makes feathercoin so special that the majority of that market of miners will choose feathercoin over all the other options? My guess...they likely won't choos Feathercoin.

I am not saying that Feathercoin is a scam or that the FTC community are dishonest etc etc...what I am saying is that I believe Feathercoin is irrelevant. There is nothing that makes FTC stand out from the rest of the alt-coins out there that can be mined with GPU/CPU.

Litecoin Fanboy detected, your arguments are invalid.

Good job debunking my claims.

Everyone knows I am a Litecoin fanboy. Nothing new. Please keep up as it appear you are quite new around here. Thanks. Grin

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Quote from: calem on July 28, 2014, 08:43:27 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:34:12 AM

...sure enough the price (as on metric of confidence in FTC) is 95-98% down since in terms of Bitcoin.

How on earth do you quantify that?

It is called looking at the exchange prices. Of course you knew that and had nothing of substance to reply with but to post a ridiculous picture of yourself. Cheesy

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Quote from: kelsey on July 28, 2014, 09:29:56 AM

You really don't get out much then do you, because thats exactly what 99% of older school coins outside of btc/ltc are saying lol
I call it, at best, a last ditch panic to stay somehow relevant.

You know what. My onions are burning and i don't have time for you right now. Catcha tomoz.

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I would like to encourage everybody to keep this discussion in civilized way.
Both FTC fanboys and FTC critics.

No need to attack each other.
It is perfectly ok to present your opinios, however try to do it with glance and do not lose your temper Wink

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Quote from: calem on July 28, 2014, 05:08:09 AM

Quote from: kelsey on July 28, 2014, 04:20:06 AM

So think my question is, whats the point to feather coin?

99% of the coins out there are stuck in their ways. They have a niche and think that makes them special. Feathercoin takes the best idea's from these niche coins, and creates an open source solution which can be copied into any other coin.

In the coming months will have what's needed on github to implement ftc into http://projectskyhook.com/

Not that we don't all ready have an open source ATM for ftc that any other coin can copy, but more the better right?

We are one of the few coins who will continue to adapt and evolve. btc and ltc have found their place. They are somewhat set in stone and no longer have the true freedom to experiment with the blockchain technology..

tl:dr - So what is the point?

Feathercoin picks up from where Satoshi left off.

You really don't get out much then do you, because thats exactly what 99% of older school coins outside of btc/ltc are saying lol
I call it, at best, a last ditch panic to stay somehow relevant.

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Now i wonder what has litecoin done the last few month regarding development? I guess sooner or later Litecoin will get irrelevant....

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Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

1. the new algorithm has not stood the test of time. It is new code and very well may have side effects unforeseen. Who knows.

It's been tested to the craphouse for a start, second of all, no one saw heartbleed coming along (so basically shit happens), third of all, scrypt it self has already been broken anyway.
Plus if you consider that the year is 2014 and cryptos are still in their infancy, every coin including btc should be considered beta.. That's the point of what were doing right? were all trying and testing a network for peer to peer payments? Anyone who thinks that any coin or algo has "stood the test" doesn't really see the big picture.

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

2. This stuff should have been done long before Feathercoin ever launched (over a year ago) as a copy-paste clone of Litecoin.

Please enlighten me as to what litecoin has done in regards to advancing the the technology itself? hrm?

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

3. The direction Feathercoin is going is back into the GPU mining arena and will need to compete with 1000's of new coins that can be mined with GPUs/CPUs. What makes feathercoin so special that the majority of that market of miners will choose feathercoin over all the other options? My guess...they likely won't choos Feathercoin.

Good luck selling those supposedly "most profitable" scrypt-alts when they don't have the volume to support those dumps... Why do you think that multicoin mining is, theoretically, more profitable then direct mining?

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

I am not saying that Feathercoin is a scam or that the FTC community are dishonest etc etc...what I am saying is that I believe Feathercoin is irrelevant. There is nothing that makes FTC stand out from the rest of the alt-coins out there that can be mined with GPU/CPU.

I respect that but to be honest, ftc is not irrelevant.

It's a safe haven for devs who can't get the chance to try out their idea because litecoin and bitcoin have turned into nazi's..

their.. i said it, the n word.. im sorry but i can't deal with people repeating the same stuff over and over when it is simply just flat out false and misleading and even sometimes, strait out lies.

Thank you for bumping our thread though.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:39:30 AM

Quote from: Conqueror on July 28, 2014, 04:55:45 AM

Smothie,

FTC just evolved Scrypt in certain way (completely different from Scrypt-Jane or Scrypt-N), I don't see nothing wrong at it.
In fact Feathercoin just offered whole Scrypt ecosystem new direction.

We should all be happy somebody is trying to push the algo forward and is developing new aplications.
Especially todays when 90% of new coins are complete scam.
I was never biggest Litecoin fan, but I do like your LTC related products.

I will be very hapy to try my GPUs at this algorithm.

1. the new algorithm has not stood the test of time. It is new code and very well may have side effects unforeseen. Who knows.

2. This stuff should have been done long before Feathercoin ever launched (over a year ago) as a copy-paste clone of Litecoin.

3. The direction Feathercoin is going is back into the GPU mining arena and will need to compete with 1000's of new coins that can be mined with GPUs/CPUs. What makes feathercoin so special that the majority of that market of miners will choose feathercoin over all the other options? My guess...they likely won't choos Feathercoin.

I am not saying that Feathercoin is a scam or that the FTC community are dishonest etc etc...what I am saying is that I believe Feathercoin is irrelevant. There is nothing that makes FTC stand out from the rest of the alt-coins out there that can be mined with GPU/CPU.

Litecoin Fanboy detected, your arguments are invalid.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 08:34:12 AM

...sure enough the price (as on metric of confidence in FTC) is 95-98% down since in terms of Bitcoin.

How on earth do you quantify that?

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Quote from: Conqueror on July 28, 2014, 04:55:45 AM

Smothie,

FTC just evolved Scrypt in certain way (completely different from Scrypt-Jane or Scrypt-N), I don't see nothing wrong at it.
In fact Feathercoin just offered whole Scrypt ecosystem new direction.

We should all be happy somebody is trying to push the algo forward and is developing new aplications.
Especially todays when 90% of new coins are complete scam.
I was never biggest Litecoin fan, but I do like your LTC related products.

I will be very hapy to try my GPUs at this algorithm.

1. the new algorithm has not stood the test of time. It is new code and very well may have side effects unforeseen. Who knows.

2. This stuff should have been done long before Feathercoin ever launched (over a year ago) as a copy-paste clone of Litecoin.

3. The direction Feathercoin is going is back into the GPU mining arena and will need to compete with 1000's of new coins that can be mined with GPUs/CPUs. What makes feathercoin so special that the majority of that market of miners will choose feathercoin over all the other options? My guess...they likely won't choos Feathercoin.

I am not saying that Feathercoin is a scam or that the FTC community are dishonest etc etc...what I am saying is that I believe Feathercoin is irrelevant. There is nothing that makes FTC stand out from the rest of the alt-coins out there that can be mined with GPU/CPU.

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Quote from: calem on July 28, 2014, 03:49:44 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2014, 03:24:54 AM

....Feathercoin has lacked on development on all fronts since its inception....

Have a flick through our newsletters for the last 8 months.. https://www.feathercoin.com/category/Newsletter/

Or here's a copy and paste of something you might have missed on the other thread you've replied to..

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From Point of sales equipment and ATM's to embedding magnet links in our blockchain, and even working with a local council to educate and help them establish their own localised crypto currency.
Feather ATM | Link/Flux | Hull City Council

We're sending a ftc wallet literally to the moon's surface, and raised a ton of money for cancer research.
Ftc to Moon | PCUK

We have created an open source solution for checkpointing and also diff re-targeting that puts all the gravity wells to shame.
ACP | eHRC.

These projects have all been achieved over roughly ftc's first 12 months of life, where we have survived multiple hardforks, a 51% attack and a forum hack.

Endlessly the Feathercoin community has worked with other coins to either help or even in some cases save their coin.

ftc's ethos is that we should all be working together to create the best open source solutions possible.

You just wait and see what else we have planned.. or, come on over to the forum and find out for yourself..

No thanks.

I've looked prior to this discussion and all I see is the same stuff that should have been done long ago. As I said, Feathercoin is irrelevant in the big picture. That is my opinion.

~A year ago I sold the last of my FTC and haven't looked back...sure enough the price (as on metric of confidence in FTC) is 95-98% down since in terms of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: kelsey on July 28, 2014, 04:20:06 AM

So think my question is, whats the point to feather coin?

99% of the coins out there are stuck in their ways. They have a niche and think that makes them special. Feathercoin takes the best idea's from these niche coins, and creates an open source solution which can be copied into any other coin.

In the coming months will have what's needed on github to implement ftc into http://projectskyhook.com/

Not that we don't all ready have an open source ATM for ftc that any other coin can copy, but more the better right?

We are one of the few coins who will continue to adapt and evolve. btc and ltc have found their place. They are somewhat set in stone and no longer have the true freedom to experiment with the blockchain technology..

tl:dr - So what is the point?

Feathercoin picks up from where Satoshi left off.

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