Topic: Gamble Responsibly - page 58. (Read 11388 times)

I respect your perspective but think it's a rather one-sided view of what gambling represents. Yes, you're right; the odds are indeed stacked in favor of the house. However, gambling is not solely about winning or losing money. For many, it's a form of entertainment, much like going to the movies or dining out. They spend money on these activities fully knowing that they will not get any monetary return, yet they enjoy it. The same applies to gambling when done responsibly. The thrill of playing, socializing, and the possibility, however slim, of a win can provide entertainment value. Promoting complete abstinence from casino play as the only way to protect one's wallet is akin to advocating people stop going to movies to save money. It's not necessarily a wrong approach, but it may not be the most nuanced perspective.

It's better not to lose at all. But with a casino, this is almost inevitable and losing, to one degree or another, awaits every gambler. Sooner or later. Based on statistics and number theory, on which the enrichment of the casino at the expense of its customers is based. The longer you play, the higher the chance of losing your deposit.

I did exactly as you say. After my deposit turned to 0, I never gambled again. If I had continued, then undoubtedly my loss would have been more. This is a mental wagering trap that players most often fall into. To accept and accept the loss is the only way out of this trap.

Can't argue with you here. All players want to win and this is what attracts them to the casino. It can't be otherwise. In order not to lose money, you need only one restraint: from playing in the casino. Never.

That's the way it is, when you lose you have to accept it, don't worry, because it's preferable to lose a part and not all, that's what the players don't understand, because looking for money to bet again is not pleasant, because eventually it is money that is lost, and trying to reverse losses is like trying to lose again. So it is not recommended, as I said, distributing a balance willing to lose is the best, and seeing that money lost so that it doesn't hurt, but regrets come, why not do one thing or another, everything starts.

There are cases where players only want to win and I don't blame them. When you play in a casino, what you think about is winning, it is unavoidable not to think about it, that's why when we want to make profits in casinos, you must do or have a lot of restraint so as not to leave things to chance and lose all our money, the worst thing that can happen to us is that we lose all our money in the casino.

The thing is that, selfie verification  was introduced and implemented into the kyc system by majorly every centralized company that runs on the internet, so this is not something that is peculiar to gambling casinos alone, even cryptocurrency exchange platform does require selfie or video verification and I dont think it can be bypassed, except like you said, the user decides to use a fake document, and in the stage of selfie/video verification is where the real challenge will begin, except on occasion where the owner of the documents being used is a close fiend or relative, then the person can try and convince he whose document is being used, to pose to the camera for the selfie or video verification.

Not with a selfie while holding the ID and a piece of paper with the name of the casino on it.  Aside from that some casinos even ask for a short video call to get a screenshot of the player holding the ID and the paper to verify the validity of the document submitted.  So it isn't that easy to circumvent the KYC procedure.

When it comes to age verification, I agree that casino should perform KYC so that minors are filtered out and stop them from accessing the gambling platform.


It somehow some impact where the method is to remind the gambler about his family if the gambler is being hooked on gambling and forgetting about his responsibility to his family.  Many irresponsible people are awakened and changed to being responsible family members by simply reminding them about their family and the person's love to his family is often effective in making them do the right decision awhen they are on the wrong path.

I undergo KYC on various reputable casino here in the forum and all of them require selfie verification that holds the ID and piece of paper written the current date and casino name. I doubt that a minor can dodge this kind of selfie verification unless if they will use fake ID and make themselves to looks like old enoigh in the selfie photo.

Exchange also have this kind of verification process. I think a minor can only play on decentralised casino but not on centralized casino with strict compliance with their license provider.

Unless the casino will do that for sure it serves the purpose of KYC, but like what you mentioned it can easily be hack by minors especially
those who knows how to play with the system.

They can easily submit other's ID's and pretend to be them and continue enjoying playing, with the knowledge that they can acquire online.

It's very possible that those young folks can work it out even there's already a KYC requirement.

Does this advice really actually matter?

In my opinion I will say that this type of generic advices do not really matter as they do not make any impact or have any positive effect on people.

• TO A NEWBIE:

The first question should be why will someone who has not been gambling before decide to gamble now? Is it that gambling is a new technology the newbie want to explore? No! It simply means that the newbie had already made up his mind to win big like his friend.  At this point of decision being made, the newbie will scroll pass any post condeming his decision

• TO AN ADDICT

A gambling addict will be able to read your advice but they cannot practice it. Addiction is hard to handle by people who sees the addict physically, let alone a mare write up online. Most gambling addicts are remorseful and had vowed at one point or the other not to gamble but they are already gone deep. It takes far more than an article to cure addiction.

     -  Yes, you are right about that, but even if the person playing is a minor, they can easily do it. Because he can also convince the very person who has an ID to pass Kyc and he can just pay for it.

And probably a lot of people have done this in the last few years of cryptocurrency in this business industry. But this is just in my opinion that there is a high probability that it really happens. But anyway, at least there is still this process to go through, especially the selfie live part.

The underage of 18 years old is a part of the reasons why KYC is compulsory on most online casinos but not all online casinos requires KYC verification, there is freebitco and others like this platform that underage kids can gamble on. They can also passed the KYC if they can get a hold of their elder brothers ID or even their parents, unless the online casino has the latest KYC style that ask for your selfie live.

Gambling is one of the means of entertainments for gamblers. In gambling a gambler enjoys his excitement through winning and losing. But all have one main goal which is to get more money from gambling. But a gambler often loses money while making money. We know that luck is a key factor in gambling. But there are certain rules which can bring luck closer already you have mentioned. If a gambler follows the 5 things you mentioned it must be effective in managing gambling. Gambling must be taken as entertainment but a gambler unknowingly takes it as a tool for making money. If a gambler is conducted continuous betting then he will lose. A gambler must take breaks from time to time. If someone panic to recover losses, there is a high probability of losing more.

If a minor wants to gamble online you can be sure they can find a way to do it, after all even if their parents are the kind to give a lot of attention to them they also have their own issues, so if they leave their ID and a credit card lying around then their kids could use them to pass KYC on many different casinos, and if I am not wrong this has happened many times already.

So parents have no option but to give the best education they can to their kids and then trust they will do the right thing, as keeping an eye on them all the time is something which is not possible to do.

That's what I said before: there are still underage gamblers flooding the net. If they can be stopped in real-life casinos, they can't be stopped in online casinos because they can possibly pass KYC with another person's details. If it's a bad child 😜(not bad bad, but more of a good bad), I mean a smart kid, he or she can use the details of their parents to even pass the KYC without their parents' awareness. Some parents that are very committed to their profession may not really have time to keep in check with their kids because they hire a maid and believe that the maid should just take care of the kids in every aspect. They forget that there are some parenting characteristics that the maid cannot teach the children. These are the reasons why some teenagers are doing some funny stuff in the industry: they get addictive and can gamble with any money they get hold of, even if it's not their money.

I agree to that point, if parents will adjust and be more responsible in monitoring the activities of their children then they can be sure that the kids are away from this bad vice or activity. It's an obligation that needed to take care for your assurance that your kids will not suffer from any addictions, like it was mentioned the responsibility is for the person itself but young adult is needed to be guided properly.

With proper guidance it will avoid young individual to engage with gambling, a secure way to limit them more effective than KYC from any casino website.

By the need for kyc you said, do you mean the normal kyc process that is available in most online gambling casinos right now, or is there any other special kind kyc you are referring to?

Asking because, passing kyc verification is currently available on most Casinos, but that still have not stopped underaged gambling, as I've read in several stories, under aged gamblers still have a way of passing kyc verification easily, and one of those ways to by verifying their account with the documents of an up to required age uncle, brother, sister, parents, or any other family member.

So for me, I think that if the battle against underaged gambling must be won, then online gambling casino must introduce a much more stricter process of kyc verification, and parents too have an important role to play in making sure that their children does not go into gambling underaged.

most of the time what has happened is that parents have children accidentally and because of that these same parents do not take good care of their children, they are parents who also want to go to parties and come back the next day, they are parents who are drinking during the day and soon they don't have time to take care of the children so they think in their minds that giving them a computer, tablet, smartphones will solve the problem because with that the children will spend a lot of time with these electronic devices and not bother the parents, but that's all a serious problem, and that these children spend much more time on the computer, on the cell phone

inside the room with the door closed and they isolate themselves from society and develop psychological problems and gambling, alcoholic beverages and other things can easily become addictive for children with these traumas and the saddest part is that the father and mother take years to realize that their child has a problem and needs a lot of psychological help and that the culprits for the child's mental health problem are the father and mother, the parents get divorced and the problem gets worse, there are few people who are lucky to have a father and mother married for years and until death do them part

Well, what if the parents are not a responsible gambler but still they wish that their children do not gamble or gamble responsibly 
Don't know why they expect too much from the children when they were not much disciplined in their younger age. I think parents can only tell their kids what is right or wrong, but they can't force it.

Due to online and anonymous gambling, kids can still gamble without telling their parents. That's why if parents think that they can be strict and they can restrict their children from gambling by force, then they are wrong.

This is really a matter of discipline and communication inside the household.

If the parents are hands on on their child and provides all the basic necessities, educates their child about the consequences of doing impulsive, illegal, and risky decisions in life, then there's a small chance that these kids will be inside a casino establishment or website given that the values, principles, and the upbringing they were exposed into has a positive and strong foundation about doing good things, obedience, and not being involved in things that will not be beneficial and is prohibited to them.

It all really boils down the measures the parents do for their child not to be lost and to the child himself, the willingness of following his parents as his role model, not giving into the curiosity and peer pressure, if there is any.

Casinos have provided regulations by not allowing underage children to gamble. And even though casinos have implemented KYC for their members, that can't stop minors from registering and gambling. They can do KYC using the identity of adults around them, which helps them gamble. Perhaps, this can be reduced if each parent pays more attention to supervising their children using devices connected to the internet so that their children do not visit casinos.

Deleting accounts is not an effective way to stop gambling because one can easily create another account or reactivate the accounts to gamble again since there is no one to stop them and if one is addicted, nothing will stop them from doing that. An addicted person will do anything to gamble even if they try and leave gambling but they will do it again after a short while because the urge just doesn't let them do it.

Account removing or avoiding gambling centers can only be effective if the person isn't yet addicted and just realized that they are getting addicted to gambling or losing a lot of money to it, if they remove their accounts, they might stop themselves from gambling again.