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Those people will become addicted with gambling who are greedy enough and consider gambling as primary source of income. But i agree with op that first game win is trap cause thus casino and gambling websites authorities try to boost gambler confidence and make them assure that, they could win more if they keep playing continuesly and thus people start playing more and more they lose. They try to recovery and so they inject more money and they lose big amount and they again try to recovery and thus this process keep continued and a gambler become addicted. Although everybody aren't same. Here I'm guessing about the facts behind addicted gamblers
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All newbies in gambling will always had their first win or lose, and each of these result can still lead for them to become an addict in gambling, if they will let their emotions consume them. As a newbie, their desire is still strong but I think they can't immediately become an addict. For it to become one, they need to have a lot of sessions and wagers first.

So, there is still a chance that they can change their direction, just like to the most of us. We realized later on that being addicted in gambling will only do nothing good to us, especially in the long run. What we talked about here must be the same as beginner's luck. Indeed they shouldn't believe about it, so that they will stop trying and losing more.
yep, beginner gamblers dont immediately become gambling addicts when they get their first win or first loss, but if from these 2 situations beginner gamblers are still determined to bet to chase losses or chase wins, believe me, that's an early sign of addiction even though they're not 100% addicted.
perhaps of the majority of novice gamblers there are only a few who are able to control their emotions but of the majority of others they as novice gamblers fail to control their emotions or greed at the start of their gambling and several times I have found novice gamblers who often win but they continue to bet every day for get the same results and for me this is the first sign of an addicted gambler because his thinking has been dominated by winning and the happy sensation when he wins.

self control in winning is always an important role, but not everyone can control themselves when dealing with money, whereas gambling always involves money and that is the difficulty for a gambler to control himself.
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It's true that winning or losing has nothing to do with addicts, but that's one of the causes of becoming addicted and you yourself said all this is just about mindset.
so this is how a beginner gambler comes to gambling playing a slot machine after 10 spins and gets a maxwin win and that's when the gambler has the mindset that it turns out gambling can give him money and he will continue to think about the win until the time comes when he comes back again to play slots and losing then depositing again until the time comes when he loses all the money in his pocket while his mind is still curious about his defeat and has additional thought patterns such as being sure to win after losing and continuously making deposits using borrowed money and finally the first signs of addiction have started.

on the one hand, losing can also be the cause of someone becoming addicted for beginners but the potential is not as big as winning except for a beginner gambler who has the idea of wanting to get a big win after seeing his friend win big and starts gambling even though he is losing he keeps trying until the time comes when he loses it all and become addicted to chasing losses.
All newbies in gambling will always had their first win or lose, and each of these result can still lead for them to become an addict in gambling, if they will let their emotions consume them. As a newbie, their desire is still strong but I think they can't immediately become an addict. For it to become one, they need to have a lot of sessions and wagers first.

So, there is still a chance that they can change their direction, just like to the most of us. We realized later on that being addicted in gambling will only do nothing good to us, especially in the long run. What we talked about here must be the same as beginner's luck. Indeed they shouldn't believe about it, so that they will stop trying and losing more.
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Maybe this kind of thing refers to the phenomenon where gamblers are trapped in the wrong mindset that they will continue to win after winning the first game. This could be a winning streak or a belief that their luck will continue. However, keep in mind that gambling outcomes are generally random and independent. Winning or losing the first match does not provide a guarantee that subsequent results will follow the same pattern, in the sense that each match or round must be considered as a separate event that is not affected by previous results. Gamblers who fall into the trap of thinking that they will continue winning after an initial win may continue to fall into risky behavior, placing larger bets to win larger amounts of profit.
This can happen to some gamblers who have a mindset like that where when they win in their first gambling game, it makes them think that they can win again in other gambling games. But that cannot guarantee that they will get another win because what often happens is that someone who gambles on another day or in the next gambling game will experience defeat. Even though some people can still win on their second chance, they will also feel the loss, and if they don't realize that this is what gambling is, they will only experience more and more losses.

So that gets many people trapped in situations they couldn't have foreseen. And that makes them decide to keep trying it in the next gambling game or another day while still having that mindset. If they could realize that it was a mistake, they would not gamble so often and would just think that gambling is not something that they think can give them an easy win.
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Maybe this kind of thing refers to the phenomenon where gamblers are trapped in the wrong mindset that they will continue to win after winning the first game. This could be a winning streak or a belief that their luck will continue. However, keep in mind that gambling outcomes are generally random and independent. Winning or losing the first match does not provide a guarantee that subsequent results will follow the same pattern, in the sense that each match or round must be considered as a separate event that is not affected by previous results. Gamblers who fall into the trap of thinking that they will continue winning after an initial win may continue to fall into risky behavior, placing larger bets to win larger amounts of profit.
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Gamble with the money you can lose.


  If this is what a gambler will always do, he will definitely not become addicted in the end because, from the beginning, you know how much money you will lose when you play gambling. This is what is called you; the amount you will play in gambling is limited.

  Because usually your only intention is to have fun, to have fun, to pass the time, you only do it because you have problems that you are going through, so you think that playing gambling will help you to think properly because you will temporarily forget the problems that you are facing.


Sounds easy but it would really be that hard for you to maintain it out as you do go further ahead with your gambling activity on which those initial thoughts and plans that you do have will
really be gradually changing up as you do go ahead and this is something not new and something typical if we do speak about gambling. Its true that when it comes to gambling then tons of people would really be that having those impressions that easy win would really be just that too rampant specially if you have experience those beginners luck kind of thing then you would be molding
up that kind of mindset that it was just that easy and its just right that you should be continuing on what you are doing until reality would slap into your face.  Cheesy

Maybe more precisely is easy to say but difficult to do Grin  I think this problem is no longer strange, some gamblers try to build a plan at the beginning along with applying some limits for precautions to minimize the number of losses is not too significant, on the other hand I think it's a pretty good plan for an approach, but unfortunately it is not uncommon or even very many of them who in the end when facing real situations they break all the promises they have built at the beginning. That is the reason why many end up with addiction, sometimes people who already have a good plan can end up with addiction because they cannot resist all the temptations that exist in every situation, well let alone those who do not prepare any precautions at all and instead act aggressively because they are too focused on winning.

Usually beginners who experience more things like that in my opinion, it is none other than because they do not have full firmness in their planning so it is easy to be shaken just because they see one or two temptations that look like tempting, on the other hand the first win can really change the mindset and point of view of gamblers, thinking that winning is quite easy to get so it is true what the OP said that the first win is very likely to be a trap for them to end up in addiction.
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Sounds easy but it would really be that hard for you to maintain it out as you do go further ahead with your gambling activity on which those initial thoughts and plans that you do have will
really be gradually changing up as you do go ahead and this is something not new and something typical if we do speak about gambling. Its true that when it comes to gambling then tons of people would really be that having those impressions that easy win would really be just that too rampant specially if you have experience those beginners luck kind of thing then you would be molding
up that kind of mindset that it was just that easy and its just right that you should be continuing on what you are doing until reality would slap into your face.  Cheesy
Hahaha, but that kind of mindset nowadays is not only for beginner gamblers but also for gamblers who have been gambling for quite long time and there are still many who think the same as what you have said.
It just that in my opinion it actually still depends on their goals and ambitions in gambling, even if they get beginner win or beginner luck, if they have the right approach and goals then they won't gamble any longer.
But I really agree that beginners are people who are very easy to get addicted to, not only winning but losing will also be very influential for those who are still beginners.
Beginner gamblers still have quite curiosity about gambling so they will be much more concerned with being able to fulfill that desire than stopping when the time comes.

When we see or know beginner gamblers who do this, it can make us sympathetic and try to give them advice, but many don't care.
From here, the only way might be to let them become gambling addicts and experience the bitter experience, maybe it will be much more meaningful and they can use it as real advice and experience so that in the future they will no longer have the desire to repeat the same thing.
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.

On my first day gambling, what saved me from being a victim of such a mistake, was a lesser bankroll. I ran out of funds and immediately stopped gambling for the day. Beginning the journey with little funds is quite a good way of wagering our spare cash and wouldn't feel bad doing it. The experience was fun and since then my gambling has never been something to be scared about or think of sadly. The first outcome of gambling matters in determining the kind of view a player would have about gambling. When one checks through the reaction of most people who didn't win anymore after their first win in gambling, a good number tried until they lost everything. Why is it so? Because they had in mind that gambling would make them some money. The same initiative pushes them to do more and spend more using Martingale's strategy to earn huge profits. Gamblers do have a budget, but some would forget it once they get to the thrilling point of gambling.

They'll go above their budget by using their card to deposit more money. The thrill can continue until the whole money is lost. Satisfaction is not guaranteed, and the player would have to continue once he gets up to money on his card. A first game win can be a trap and at the same time a false idea. But in justifying people's view on the first win, it relies on the difference of gamblers. Like any other aspect of life, not all gamblers would be prey to such a trap. Some would move on after experiencing a few extra losses. We may think that lots of newbie gamblers fall for this, but the survey isn't there to prove it right. Notwithstanding that many gamblers testify to the fact that they weren't able to escape it, some other players were smart enough to bypass those tricks. Newbie gamblers must understand how to be steps ahead in following the tricks of gambling houses. Otherwise they'll wager all their money, looking for some more wins.
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Gamble with the money you can lose.


  If this is what a gambler will always do, he will definitely not become addicted in the end because, from the beginning, you know how much money you will lose when you play gambling. This is what is called you; the amount you will play in gambling is limited.

  Because usually your only intention is to have fun, to have fun, to pass the time, you only do it because you have problems that you are going through, so you think that playing gambling will help you to think properly because you will temporarily forget the problems that you are facing.


Sounds easy but it would really be that hard for you to maintain it out as you do go further ahead with your gambling activity on which those initial thoughts and plans that you do have will
really be gradually changing up as you do go ahead and this is something not new and something typical if we do speak about gambling. Its true that when it comes to gambling then tons of people would really be that having those impressions that easy win would really be just that too rampant specially if you have experience those beginners luck kind of thing then you would be molding
up that kind of mindset that it was just that easy and its just right that you should be continuing on what you are doing until reality would slap into your face.  Cheesy
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Gamble with the money you can lose.


  If this is what a gambler will always do, he will definitely not become addicted in the end because, from the beginning, you know how much money you will lose when you play gambling. This is what is called you; the amount you will play in gambling is limited.

  Because usually your only intention is to have fun, to have fun, to pass the time, you only do it because you have problems that you are going through, so you think that playing gambling will help you to think properly because you will temporarily forget the problems that you are facing.

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There is this part many gamblers fail to see, if many people win from gambling, I think we will have testimonies everytime but it's only few and it's only when they win they post about it and when they lost, they don't post anything. That's tell us how careful we should be if you are thinking of making money from gambling, the rule should always be bet responsibly.

People are happier to share wins than losses. If someone sees someone else being lucky, we as people who see it should make ourselves aware about that. even if we play, maybe we won't be able to win like the people who share their wins on all social media and even in this forum. Of course all of us can try to play the game that giving a win , but we don't have to chase the same win as the winning can achieved by them.
The category you ended it with can be considered by the unwise gamblers because someone had gambled and won a massive amount, and now, you can think you can follow the exact path of the person to also win. This makes them play more and even aggressively and tireless, but to no substantial gains still. I see no issue in trying to gamble and make winnings but I see the issue in trying to gamble sentimentally. There must not be any emotion in our gambling lifestyle and it is better that we do not emulate anyone or be envious of any person to the point that it will now affect our gambling life and pattern into pushing us into what we didn't plan. This is very wrong, even if a gambler loses, it is not in the right context for such gambler to continue to play emotionally if they do not have their plan already set. This is what causes most of the losses that people will be crying foul. What is peculiar with all these gamblers in this category is that they are acting based on emotion, which must be stopped by being disciplined. As much as I do not like gamblers to be fearful and not freely gamble, I still do not like it when gamblers do not have their plan and know their cautious spots.
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Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Being on the side of observers can be quite cautious and calculating. However, when you become a player, you are more likely to get caught up in the euphoria. Yes, you will remember that you were going to take your winnings and leave early, but everything in the casino is designed for the winner to get carried away and keep betting
It is more easier for us to have the first winning and keep playing for a more better luck since the win is to keep making profits everytime. That might not keep happening everytime so we have to be prepared and make sure we don't do something that would keep taking away the profits we intended to have because of the aim of continuous winning. Winning on a casino should not be of desperation since we all have the time and privilege to keep gambling and making money for ourselves if we are patience enough. We can still make money in gambling if we know what we are doing and how to increase our chances as gamblers.
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Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Being on the side of observers can be quite cautious and calculating. However, when you become a player, you are more likely to get caught up in the euphoria. Yes, you will remember that you were going to take your winnings and leave early, but everything in the casino is designed for the winner to get carried away and keep betting
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Yes I can slightly conclude from what you said that awareness is one of the most important factors to be able to end everything with the best decision, with enough awareness then obviously they will be able to consider some things that never thought of if their situation was far from awareness, or that means awareness will keep them awake and safe, if at the same time they managed to get a win then obviously the first thing that will be done is memiluh to cash out because the worry and fear of losing  money that has been won will play a role there.

As a result, it's important to be  aware of what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into, as well as what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into.
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.
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There is this part many gamblers fail to see, if many people win from gambling, I think we will have testimonies everytime but it's only few and it's only when they win they post about it and when they lost, they don't post anything. That's tell us how careful we should be if you are thinking of making money from gambling, the rule should always be bet responsibly.

People are happier to share wins than losses. If someone sees someone else being lucky, we as people who see it should make ourselves aware about that. even if we play, maybe we won't be able to win like the people who share their wins on all social media and even in this forum. Of course all of us can try to play the game that giving a win , but we don't have to chase the same win as the winning can achieved by them.
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

I hope you know that luck is not a thing that is predictabl and not generic, we have some people that are very lucky in gambling that a time will come that you will ask your self if you are doing the right thing or the wrong thing. You will think that you are not doing something good but it's luck and I have seen a new gambler make something good many times and few losses despite having a big first win from ha.

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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This one is important, some new gamblers are trapped by this many times and regret after just like a guy that borrowed a huge amount of money and add to his own only to lose everything and took his own life for failure and scared of the shame that he may be able to pay back the money he borrowed. This are the kind of set up and because of lack of proper orientation of gambling, they fall for it.

There is this part many gamblers fail to see, if many people win from gambling, I think we will have testimonies everytime but it's only few and it's only when they win they post about it and when they lost, they don't post anything. That's tell us how careful we should be if you are thinking of making money from gambling, the rule should always be bet responsibly.
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I have heard before that many gambling services make them win in many games and then make the person lose by making them place higher bets especially to their new members. Yes, this is something that can be possible with certain algorithmic arrangements especially in many gambling games but I don't think that casinos specifically use such an algorithm. As we all know, the worst thing that can happen to a person in gambling is to earn a high amount of money when he or she just starts gambling because this not only causes the person to gamble more but also triggers the ambition to earn more.

I think that especially someone who is going to gamble for the first time should pay attention to such details and determine very well where he/she should stand if he/she can potentially make continuous profits. If risk management is not provided correctly the person is likely to encounter disappointment.
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The conclusion that the OP is referring to is that usually someone will experience a change in mindset if at the beginning of their involvement they immediately get a win and that is what is meant by the first win trap, and that means not every gambler who just entered will always get a win but still in gambling everything cannot be predicted whether you will win or lose.

As for your statement about what casino they play at, or do you mean that winning depends on how good the casino is, I honestly never thought of it that way, I never thought that losing was caused by irresponsible or scam casinos, unless you are mentioning that casinos don't pay gamblers their winnings, well if that is what you mean then I guess I would agree with your idea, but as for the difficulty of finding winnings I think it is just about luck and I would say that if there are people who gamble without winning then I would say that they are very far from lucky.
First win trap is somethin that would really be that those casinos would really be trying out to be happening specially these method would really be that effective majority with those noobs who are really that having that greedy approach towards gambling. Yes, you could really be able to make those initial wins but on the time that you wouldnt really be abel to to make those winnings and experiencing those losses then this is the best time  that you should really be quitting. Dont believe it on the first place? Easy to say but majority would really be failing to do so specially if that someone is really that expecting something positive with gambling then
most likely you would really be falling into that trap.

Somewhat if you are a type of person who do have that strong will and discipline or simply with those awareness at first place then you wont really that get easily hooked with those first win traps.
You would immediately be quitting up if ever you do see that you are spending up money that much.

But as I said above that in this problem especially for a win it is still difficult to predict, and maybe the title that the OP wrote is more referring to the change in mindset and perspective when novice gamblers get a win at the beginning of their involvement, increasing budgets, hopes and expectations for something much bigger than what they have won before is something they are likely to do if they come with the wrong perspective or if indeed the first win succeeds in changing their perspective on gambling.

It's hard to stop when it's too late, or when the mind is completely focused on winning, and they may end up gambling more aggressively instead of thinking  of some limits or plans to stop when some indications of something worse happen. Of course only awareness can bring it all back, or I mean bring their point of view back to the right path, but maybe if they have already experienced such a change in the beginning then I think it might be too late.
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.
If you win once, you will be encouraged to play more for more luck, and you are lucky to have won the first time. The first time, a friend of mine selected the games and I was happy and expecting money to come because I was in school and had already calculated for that money, but there was no win so I just decided to leave it alone until I started seeing a lot of wins on Twitter, and I was encouraged to try my luck as well, but not recklessly and with serious caution. And there are people who, when they first start playing, they always win, and then they start losing, and by then they are used to winning, so it's a continuous automatic play for them, and before you know it, they are already drawn in, and gambling sometimes goes beyond what we expect. Playing the first time is what will sometimes determine how the gambling future of some people will be.

First time win/lose can't determine if the gambler will become addicted if he opted to continue to play. The question is, why he is still playing? Is it to have fun or to make money? Because if the latter is the reason and his main desire when playing, it can really lead to serious problem when he is blinded with his goal. Aside from recovering the losses, lack of discipline and self-control, the desperation to profit is often the cause why a gambler is becoming addicted. Hence, it's not about the first time experience but your mindset towards gambling to continue this activity.

It could be true, but for sure, when we started our gambling journey, we have experience this so called beginners luck. So what it do is just reinforce us to gamble for more after the taste of your first win. And so others fell for it as they want to continue and replicate that experience.

So they try again and again until they've lost self-control already and turning into a gambling addict. So it's really a very dangerous and it could be a trap for the majority of us believing as the OP said, that we will go on and continue to win and win big, until it's too late.
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