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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Of course it hurt us financially and emotionally, specially if you are playing money that you can't afford to lose. Yes, we want the site to refund our money, but if it is a legit site and you lose it fair and square then you can't do anything about it, but to let go and live another day.

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Yeah, that's why it's very important that you shouldn't be influence by anyone to gamble. Just stay away from it if you are not a gambler. But once you get your hands on it, very hard to stop specially if you experience what we call, beginners luck. And then you go and bet again, until you can't stop anymore and you are totally hook into it.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

You've said it already; that's their business which is to take advantage of other people. Ofcourse gambling is a choice and is nothing requiring an individual to engage. It is our inner drives and desires which pushes us to engage in gambling with expectations of earning huge in an instant. As cited, people were just encouraged by themselves to do so which already answers whether their money should be returned or not 'coz it would be a different feeling if ever they win the game. If you really think they are cheating on people, you may report their activity to the authority to check if they have papers on their operation. But there's no such possibility that your money will be returned.

It will just be a lesson learned to not engage with gambling if you are not ready to lose a certain amount of your wallet.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Everything is our choice. And in terms of gambling and risk, you must have the control and the ability to have your best choice.
You must have the ability to say no when you can no longer afford to risk your money. But oftentimes, we still do bet the money we can't afford to lose. This then lead us to wish, that if only the site can refund your lost money. (knowing that it will not.) Gamble at your own risk. If you cannot master yourself, you will be a slave of casino and betting. So you have your choice.

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Quote from: GideonGono on May 16, 2023, 08:24:07 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Everything you do is your choice, no one could persuade you if you don't want to do it.
You could blame others but we all know that it was you who made it on your own.
Most of the time people are driven by their greed that would lead to their missery and for them to feel a bit better they tend to take it out on others or blame others for it.

and at the end of the day, you know who's at fault with your journey. you may take it on others but deep inside we know it is on us. so yeah, gambling is a choice and whatever you would want to do in your life is on your hands. you can alter your lifestyle anytime as you deem necessary.
but if you are already in it, it would take sheer determination to change your path. but you will find out soon that such move is rewarding at least with your life.

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This experience is amongst the reasons why you are advised to gamble with what you can afford to loss.
Before gambling, make out your daily gambling limit so as to avoid excess or going out of your gambling budget. Self control and discipline is another issue. Once one starts losing in the course of gambling, there is every tendencies that one would be tempted to continue so that one wins back all their loses which is near impossible in that course it would result to something else.

There is another point you made of the lady falling into the traps of roadside conmen. This is something similar to fake and scam casinos online looking for unsuspecting participants to make away with their funds. How could she have stooped so low falling for unverified roadside gamblers. Anyways this is a lesson learnt so far. I trust she would never make such mistake in her life.

Indeed gambling is a choice and nobody is forced or coerced into gambling against their will. That is why it is restricted for individuals below 18years. So anyone getting into gambling is seen as a matured adult who is aware of the dangers and consequences involved.

Gamble responsibly!

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

When you lose, I usually just scream, don't have to cry and hope to ask the casino to return my money, besides gambling, we must be prepared to lose whatever we risk, because if we don't want to lose money, then don't gamble, you should play demo games instead of playing real gambling, casino online provides DEMO games to play and people can gamble without having to spend money.

Gamblers have a choice to play or not, if they choose to continue the game then they must be prepared to lose all their bet money, I'm sure every choice will be chosen consciously and all those who choose that, don't expect the lost money to return, let alone hope to be returned.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

~snip~
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Everything you do is your choice, no one could persuade you if you don't want to do it.
You could blame others but we all know that it was you who made it on your own.
Most of the time people are driven by their greed that would lead to their missery and for them to feel a bit better they tend to take it out on others or blame others for it.

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I've also noticed this in my country too before and mostly those their targeted are old one or they see that they cant control themselves what ive just noticed is that they can like hipnotize people to play more until they lose their all money which even my self cant explain it but the way they talk is that they are very persuasive. With this kind of set up we cant do anything on it so if we see like this we shouldn't try it and immediately leave because for sure it is not a fair play as they manipulate it.

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This are two contrasting situations. Your post is talking about a scamming scheme where people are lured into betting on a rigged game, they could do this by having one of the scammers pretend to be a player and win on their bets, just enough to make it believable, anyone who falls victim tries their luck and wins a little amount, not a serious loss for the scammers, but just enough to keep them playing, if they keep playing they start taking their money gradually till the person tires out or runs out of cash.

Online gambling on reputable websites is different from this. The house always wants to win but has to be provably fair, to not scam players. There exist some scam gambling websites, so players should always verify before depositing into any platform.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

There's nothing than street gambling and causing nuisance around in attending to matters tgat does not concerns them, this is mostly common to almost every part of the world, you can easily get this category of people which their maor dependency is on street gambling in most local settings.

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

That's how they play their own localized gambling, if you're not the type that is used to that kind of gambling style, you're likely to fall a victim to them, you will play it win the first one and that will be the last you could win just to entice you to continue and you keep loosing and if you win and don't want to continue, they attack you.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country

I think you're talking about a scammer here.

Shell game is gambling if they ask to play with money, there's nothing wrong if the player can control himself, but mostly those group are using dishonest behavior e.g. hypnotic in order to make the player keep gambling until he lose all of his money.

This happen to my friend, my friend is a good man, but there's a group offer him to play such kind game. First there's no problem until my friend give ten bucks to play, I feel something is wrong and then I forced my friend to stay away from them.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Shortly. Refund, No!

Gambling is personal choice.
Where you choose to bet is another personal choice.
You should choose a trusted casino to bet, and gamble responsibly.

A trusted casino is not a casino you are promoting with your signature. They are scam according to [WARNING] Beware of 1xBit casino, investors from Telegram, and Youtube scams!.

Choosing a casino to promote with your signature is another personal choice too.

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Quote from: avp2306 on May 16, 2023, 06:39:39 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

A lesson learned from a people who's been blinded by to good to be true profit shared by someone hype those gambling site. This will wake up them from reality that there's nothing good will happen to them if they believe on unrealistic claims made up by those people. They should know that each offer created is made by those person for their own gain and not for the other so they should learn to have critical thinking to avoid such heavy loss from wrong expectations.

The original case didn't talk about a gambling site being advertised but talked about a woman who was forced to play in a shell game in the country where Alisha-k lives. That's why he/she said that no one should be forced to play or gamble, it should always be a choice, and in fact an informed one, because all the people who gambles should know, if they don't, that the odds are against them from the start, and that winning against the house is difficult, and the more you play, the more difficult.

Well, not so different: that reminded me about the >x5 requirement in some online casinos in order to be able to withdraw. The gamblers who deposit there without reading the T&Cs won't feel much different when they notice that they have to keep gambling against their will to be able to get their money back.

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Quote from: avp2306 on May 16, 2023, 06:39:39 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

A lesson learned from a people who's been blinded by to good to be true profit shared by someone hype those gambling site. This will wake up them from reality that there's nothing good will happen to them if they believe on unrealistic claims made up by those people. They should know that each offer created is made by those person for their own gain and not for the other so they should learn to have critical thinking to avoid such heavy loss from wrong expectations.

Actually, his story about the victim is much more unrealistic than the profit they promised. Imagine a real life scenario that these thugs offer gambling game on the side walk while a brave girl gamble and lose it all? Having a courage to gamble sidewalk when you are a girl is already unusual. I’m not trying to impose gender equality here but this scenario is very uncommon for a girl.

On gambling like this which is illegal. The girl has the right to request a refund since the game is rigged and I’m sure that the authority will backed her up if she just report it assuming this scenario is real.

It’s normal for gamblers to believe on too good to be true profit because that’s what makes gambling exciting since you will have an ultimate goal when you are gambling. Chasing it recklessly without considering your bankroll is what wrong to do.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

A lesson learned from a people who's been blinded by to good to be true profit shared by someone hype those gambling site. This will wake up them from reality that there's nothing good will happen to them if they believe on unrealistic claims made up by those people. They should know that each offer created is made by those person for their own gain and not for the other so they should learn to have critical thinking to avoid such heavy loss from wrong expectations.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Did the lady used her phone as her bet? Or they snatched it?
About these group of rouges, are they threatening the players to place a bet on their game?

I have a hunch that the result of their game can be easily manipulated by them. That's probably the reason why the lady lost all her bets. It was unfair and the operators cheated against the player.

Gambling is ALWAYS a choice, unless forced by external factors, like life threat.

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Wherever you play be it online or offline casino under any circumstances you should not allow being persuaded threaten or even requested to gamble because it involves money and it's your money, it's different if it's not your money but it's your money.
Betting in casinos should be your free will to make it enjoyable and you should be responsible for the outcome win or lose.
BTW there is a complaint in the scam section he wants to get a refund because he finds a loophole in one casino, this is unethical and irresponsible.

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Quote from: aioc on May 16, 2023, 05:34:20 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

No casino will refund your money under any circumstances when you bet and you lose, you lose, it's your choice that you bet and lose your money your being irresponsible causes you to lose your money a casino will just offer you to play

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

You should be responsible enough to think for yourself, even if you are persuaded or asked to play whatever outcome you should accept, what if you hit the jackpot and won a lot of money you will be thankful that they persuade or asked you to play.

It's just ridiculous to think that after a loss, some casino can return the lost money to you.

Such naivety can only be characteristic of naive young ladies who still think that the casino will show unheard of nobility and give back, for example, the money accidentally lost by this funny young lady.
But it never occurs to any normal gambler to beg for a refund of lost money. The most correct thing is to simply inspire yourself, and even constantly think that lost money is a payment for the pleasure of playing and feeling all the emotions associated with gambling.

I know for myself that sometimes even after losing a little, I understand that the feelings and emotions that I got during the game are generally even more expensive than the money that I lost. But this is according to my own views it is so!
Well, if you are lucky and you won, then there is no talk about the fact that in this case there are only pluses for you both in money and in emotions.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

Based on your story you should not play or be persuaded to play this kind of game of course they will persuade you then they trick you, it's illegal and if you do this here in our country you will be arrested for fraud.
You should be street smart they will pick you and let you play and win from the start so you'll be motivated to win more and surprisingly they will not let you stop playing, you will either lose your money or they will threaten you and possibly harm because you mentioned these are rogue people.

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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

If they let you then they will have to refund other people too, this is business, this is not a game when you bet you must accept the outcome if you have this mindset then don't gamble, people will despise you if ask for a refund

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

If you play in an online casino you can read in their terms that you should gamble responsibly and gambling responsibly means you are responsible for your choice.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

Although this is an organised crime, Her greed made her be a victim. If she was a gambler who could control herself, she would have ignored these set of people when she saw them knowing that was not a good place to gamble.

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

If you lose out on a bet and think that the casino or sportsbet site should refund your money, it means that you are not a responsible and mature gambler and should not even be gambling in the first place due to your immaturity. What if you had won and the casino or sportsbet site refuse to pay you, you will definitely not be happy.

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