Gambling is not only about winning and losing, but about psychological control - page 2.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 31, 2024, 06:33:12 PM

Quote from: bubilas on July 31, 2024, 01:35:38 AM

All this is true, but every player wants to get good emotions from the game. And if you control yourself, acting according to the plan, according to the algorithms - then the gambler is unlikely to enjoy the game.
This is the paradox of gambling. We can say that this is the division between the game analytically and the game of feelings. Nevertheless, the end result is always important, and this means that gambling is not a game for emotions. And whoever plays this way will lose.

And playing with memories is something that is similar to playing with a candle, it always burns, and here in the game whenever you play that way then what you lose is money, and that is not a pleasant thing, for me the things that have to be with money you have to be very careful, because money is the only thing that matters in a casino, that is why a casino if it wins even half a dollar or 1 dollar it hoards it, one of the errors and I think that this is psychological, is to think that 1 dollar is nothing, and thanks to this type of thinking is that many people lose large amounts of money, and it is all due to pure psychology.

Absolutely right, without one dollar, one hundred dollars will not be one hundred dollars. The way you described it is a very strong psychological trick on the part of the casino. It pulls out 0.2 dollars from the player in slots, and the gambler feels that this is a very small number. But after several spins, he understands that he has already lost 20 dollars. And considering that the casino has hundreds of such players, then for such an insignificant session of all of them, the casino already earns 2000 dollars, only occasionally giving the players winnings. That is why this business is so profitable.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on August 01, 2024, 02:11:29 PM

Psychological control and discipline are the basic things you must practice when gambling or venturing into the financial market, because being emotional will only make you lose more, I remember the times that I lost money on crash games, immediately I get emotional I start making careless mistakes, the best thing to do when you are losing is to switch off your phone or laptop and just go to bed or engage in other physical activities that can give you the money you need... don't let your emotions control you

Of a truth these are the basics of a healthy and responsible gambling. most persons except for some newbies are very much aware of this that they should stick to tis if they must maintain a good and healthy gambling habit but then they later aren't able to maintain it long enough before they continue with their old habits. Sometimes we may thing we can do better until we are experiencing it first hand then we will understand why it feel hard with others.

Just like you have mentioned, its usually not easy to still not be emotional after loosing some money but others will think you can as a responsible gambler. i used to be of same opinion until i had a first hand experience and then i understood better that you it take some kind of extra discipline to still maintain a good stance after loosing some fund and this applies to even little money and not necessarily huge funds.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 03, 2024, 09:19:43 PM

Online casinos are now easily accessible and anyone can create an account and play.
Profits and losses can happen easily.

And at every moment where gambling exerts psychological pressure that makes me sometimes unable to control it.

When Win: When a bet or gambling game that we do gets a win, Greed will appear and this will influence a person to keep playing with a higher target.
Even because someone is too greedy to never make a profit and continue to put all their money into gambling, until in the end everything is taken back by gambling.

When losing: Defeat will indeed be a moment that will make a person's mentality and psychology down, and even it will interfere with their psyche.
A deep sense of disappointment due to an unwanted defeat makes a person tend to be more emotional and want to take revenge for the defeat and ultimately make bets and gambling games without any restrictions.

These two moments of winning or losing will be the reason where a person's psychology will be played in a gamble.
Someone really has to know how to manage their emotions so that they don't get into situations they don't even want.
There must be limits and targets that need to be achieved, not only limited to winning and losing but more than that.

Psychological control and discipline are the basic things you must practice when gambling or venturing into the financial market, because being emotional will only make you lose more, I remember the times that I lost money on crash games, immediately I get emotional I start making careless mistakes, the best thing to do when you are losing is to switch off your phone or laptop and just go to bed or engage in other physical activities that can give you the money you need... don't let your emotions control you

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 31, 2024, 11:10:32 AM

No one said it's bad but it's good because when we resist an urge it means we won't be addicted. Even not addicted but we can prevent losing, as we know that it's hard to win money in gambling (if that is our main aim for playing).

You're right, for me the main thing is that we are people who seek to win , in a casino what moves us the most is that desire to win, but just as it moves us I think the main thing here is to have control of the money, and I also Support what you say that later this becomes and involves Everything, even the spiritual, and it is not bad to do it and apply it, we are beings that can have contact or wisdom in many aspects, as long as we are doing things without hurting anyone I think things will be well regarded, that is why our psychological part must Always be very high.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 31, 2024, 01:35:38 AM

All this is true, but every player wants to get good emotions from the game. And if you control yourself, acting according to the plan, according to the algorithms - then the gambler is unlikely to enjoy the game.
This is the paradox of gambling. We can say that this is the division between the game analytically and the game of feelings. Nevertheless, the end result is always important, and this means that gambling is not a game for emotions. And whoever plays this way will lose.

And playing with memories is something that is similar to playing with a candle, it always burns, and here in the game whenever you play that way then what you lose is money, and that is not a pleasant thing, for me the things that have to be with money you have to be very careful, because money is the only thing that matters in a casino, that is why a casino if it wins even half a dollar or 1 dollar it hoards it, one of the errors and I think that this is psychological, is to think that 1 dollar is nothing, and thanks to this type of thinking is that many people lose large amounts of money, and it is all due to pure psychology.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 31, 2024, 11:10:32 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 28, 2024, 06:59:45 PM

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No one said it's bad but it's good because when we resist an urge it means we won't be addicted. Even not addicted but we can prevent losing, as we know that it's hard to win money in gambling (if that is our main aim for playing).

It is almost certain that every gambler will return to gamble regardless of losing or winning on the first try. Even if they can control themselves and gamble responsibly, the addiction will still exist. Addiction does not have to be compulsive, but when you return to gambling regardless of whether you lost or won yesterday, then you are addicted.

Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 31, 2024, 11:10:32 AM

This is one of the things that we can say that we need to be positive, if we are struggling already with an addiction. In life there are still things that are negative, so we must also feel negative about them. I know at the start we think they are beneficial but it's better to be safe than sorry as they say. We can think that resisting something starts with mental but I think it also requires physical aspects like for example what we eat can have an impact in our mood or decision. There must also be emotional aspect on it and then spiritual.

If you want to fight addiction, then you have to stop gambling and stay away from anything related to gambling. But if you still like gambling, then gamble responsibly, which can help you avoid many problems from gambling. It doesn't matter if you are addicted as long as you can control yourself and your finances, plus gamble responsibly.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 28, 2024, 06:59:45 PM

Quote from: Accardo on July 20, 2024, 04:27:56 PM

and a player must apply mental strength to bend the impulse towards his own will.

Yes, and it's not bad , because things as we see them have to be very positive for us, but Above all we must have a lot of mental Strength to resist all the attacks that the game can give us , this is possibly what one as a player must prepare for , but it is basically to have control in the face of losses, I have Always advised before playing to establish how much can be spent and lost, and that's it, this way it is very likely to avoid Problems , whether it be self-control of economies, Impulses, Among other things.

No one said it's bad but it's good because when we resist an urge it means we won't be addicted. Even not addicted but we can prevent losing, as we know that it's hard to win money in gambling (if that is our main aim for playing).

This is one of the things that we can say that we need to be positive, if we are struggling already with an addiction. In life there are still things that are negative, so we must also feel negative about them. I know at the start we think they are beneficial but it's better to be safe than sorry as they say. We can think that resisting something starts with mental but I think it also requires physical aspects like for example what we eat can have an impact in our mood or decision. There must also be emotional aspect on it and then spiritual.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 30, 2024, 06:36:29 PM

Quote from: Tmoonz on July 27, 2024, 12:16:52 PM

Undoubtedly gambling can actually becomes problematic to our mental health if approached the wrong way, staying or control your emotions is a lead way towards achieving a healthy gambling activity such as understanding your psychology by gambling only the amount you can afford to lose, mixing gambling activities with other activities by not overly allocating your time, energy and resources in gambling, never borrow to gamble, you can go for a break if necessary, never see gambling as a means generating income a lot more but just few to mention and maintaining of this can help in building a good psychology towards gambling.

It is a fact, things are different now when it comes to gambling, psychological control is extremely important, when we play what we must have the most control over is money, because without money it is impossible for us to do anything, that is natural, I personally have always said, whoever controls money controls everything, those who only control the emotional part and control impulses, but sooner or later that gets out of control, so psychological control is easier when you control money.

All this is true, but every player wants to get good emotions from the game. And if you control yourself, acting according to the plan, according to the algorithms - then the gambler is unlikely to enjoy the game.
This is the paradox of gambling. We can say that this is the division between the game analytically and the game of feelings. Nevertheless, the end result is always important, and this means that gambling is not a game for emotions. And whoever plays this way will lose.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on July 27, 2024, 12:16:52 PM

Undoubtedly gambling can actually becomes problematic to our mental health if approached the wrong way, staying or control your emotions is a lead way towards achieving a healthy gambling activity such as understanding your psychology by gambling only the amount you can afford to lose, mixing gambling activities with other activities by not overly allocating your time, energy and resources in gambling, never borrow to gamble, you can go for a break if necessary, never see gambling as a means generating income a lot more but just few to mention and maintaining of this can help in building a good psychology towards gambling.

It is a fact, things are different now when it comes to gambling, psychological control is extremely important, when we play what we must have the most control over is money, because without money it is impossible for us to do anything, that is natural, I personally have always said, whoever controls money controls everything, those who only control the emotional part and control impulses, but sooner or later that gets out of control, so psychological control is easier when you control money.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 30, 2024, 01:11:04 AM

Quote from: Tmoonz on July 29, 2024, 09:51:42 AM

Controlling you emotions is very important and can not be overly emphasis and it worth reminding any one towards gambling, considering the fact that even when you are at winning position it requires emotions to control yourself as to utilize your winning appropriately and also when you are losing how to manage such situation also requires being in charge of taking care of your emotions as to this regards since winning and Lossing comes with different emotions such that not being able to control your psychology enough can lead gambling addiction.

Winning in gambling is as dangerous as losing. And you need to control yourself even if you have won a large sum. After all, everyone focuses on controlling emotions only when losing. But I know that winning in gambling can be much more dangerous than any loss. After all, then you can completely lose control and lose everything. Leaving zero on your deposit.

If we can control emotion with good, we will not have to worry if we lose that in any activities because we can thinks clear of what we should do. Losing control can happen any situation whether you win or lose and that can makes you to keeps playing gambling without thinks about stops for a while from playing gambling. Gambling is really not only about winning and losing but you must have good self control over yourself. If you can control yourself with good, you will have a chance to enjoy gambling as a fun thing and will not playing gambling excessively.

We see many people wins in gambling but they lose their control and not decides to stops immediately after that wins instead keeps playing gambling because they want to chase the win. That will also happens when they lose because their reason to playing gambling is change and not for enjoy the game but chasing the win or recover their lose. Just imagine if you lose some money and still playing gambling to recover your lose and that can cause you lose more money. So you must have a power to control your emotion in gambling to prevents more losses.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 30, 2024, 01:11:04 AM

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As with any other occupation in gambling you should try not to give in to emotions and act taking into account their risk management and do not lose your mind during a big win. Of course, learn how to do this at once almost no one can not succeed, but over time, every gambler can come to it. It is important to realize that when you will treat gambling more responsibly they will bring not only less negative emotions, but also positive. So each of us chooses how to play gambling, because it all depends on his goals.

If your goal is to win, then when you lose you will get negative emotions, if your goal is the process of gambling and getting from this fun, then losing will not affect you much.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on July 29, 2024, 09:51:42 AM

Controlling you emotions is very important and can not be overly emphasis and it worth reminding any one towards gambling, considering the fact that even when you are at winning position it requires emotions to control yourself as to utilize your winning appropriately and also when you are losing how to manage such situation also requires being in charge of taking care of your emotions as to this regards since winning and Lossing comes with different emotions such that not being able to control your psychology enough can lead gambling addiction.

Winning in gambling is as dangerous as losing. And you need to control yourself even if you have won a large sum. After all, everyone focuses on controlling emotions only when losing. But I know that winning in gambling can be much more dangerous than any loss. After all, then you can completely lose control and lose everything. Leaving zero on your deposit.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 04, 2024, 12:44:07 AM

It’s normal to feel extreme emotions when gambling. Be it extreme stress or despair or extreme happiness, both can be equally dangerous. When you experience these extreme emotions you can make decisions that you might not normally would consider when you are not under such extreme circumstances.

It might be difficult but if you don’t want to end up with too much losses, you need to control your emotions

Yeah but controlling those emotions needs time to fully take effect because it is not about instant stop thing especially we are dealing with our own emotions. But it is true that it is dangerous because if we cannot control it we might fall to addiction and people around us might also be affected especially our loved ones.

For the most cases, people learn from experience which comes with time just like you have stated. I take myself as for example, when I started gambling, it was pretty easy for me to win and because of this I started becoming complacent and over confident, taking unnecessary risk and not knowing when to stop. As you know, gambling have a way of teach us a lesson; that was what happened to me. I learnt the hard way but thankfully I was able to overcome that challenge of lack of self control. I got better and it shows in my results afterwards.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 28, 2024, 06:59:45 PM

Quote from: Accardo on July 20, 2024, 04:27:56 PM

and a player must apply mental strength to bend the impulse towards his own will.

Yes, and it's not bad , because things as we see them have to be very positive for us, but Above all we must have a lot of mental Strength to resist all the attacks that the game can give us , this is possibly what one as a player must prepare for , but it is basically to have control in the face of losses, I have Always advised before playing to establish how much can be spent and lost, and that's it, this way it is very likely to avoid Problems , whether it be self-control of economies, Impulses, Among other things.

Am still getting to think through the means by which, the games could actually attack you as a being and I don’t seem to make a lot of sense of it. The only thing that comes to mind as it is, is the fact that, addiction does set in but, that doesn’t seem like what is being discussed here is it? So yeah, how does the game of gambling does attack people or gamblers?

Having to apply mental strength to bend the will, I get that parts. In life, it’s often you having to fight against you but, where the game fights with you, I don’t know much about that.

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If you want to be successful in gambling or profit from gambling, you must learn to control yourself. If you can't control yourself, you are more likely to harm than gain from gambling.

It is possible to earn large amounts of money from gambling. But there is a big risk of losing money. But if we can control ourselves then it is possible to greatly reduce the chances of losing money in gambling. For example, we must have complete knowledge about every gamble we play. Without complete knowledge and analytical ability, there is definitely a high chance of losing money in gambling. Like I do sports gambling. I have a good understanding of the game and I bet after analyzing the matches. However, it is not always possible to win the bet. But most of the time I can win the bet money.

Moreover, it is important to keep oneself controlled in terms of spending money. Otherwise we may end up spending a lot of money on gambling. Which is harmful to our daily and family life.

But this isn't really gambling specific, because if you don't have control over your life decisions, your life controls you. Then it just happens to you, and you will be a passive passenger.
And that means that you shouldn't be doing most things in life. Or at least have hard responsibilitiesf. Being in charge of your own finances would be morally questionable, not to mention your family's money. And money / gambling is just one thing. Most things in life require emotion regulation skills, so that our urges and acting on our feelings won't get us in trouble.

You have mentioned a very important point. Self-control is essential if we do not want to be harmed by gambling. And it is very important if we want to keep our daily life hassle free. If we don't have self control then we can easily get addicted to different things. It could be drugs or it could be gambling.

We must be aware of the harmful effects of gambling. Not knowing about the harmful effects of gambling increases the risk of becoming addicted to it. Moreover, self-control is very important for any gambler. If we don't control ourselves properly then we can lose huge amount of money in gambling. And its impact will be seen in our daily life and family life.

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Self control actually matters a lot and it is good we really know what we are doing so that we don't have to think that the result is going to become positive when it is obvious that nothing is going to change. It is good we have good understanding about how to work on ourselves and improve things if we really want to be making money from gambling. It is not all strategies that will work for us if we want to actually make good money for ourselves. There are so many gamers and gamblers that are still finding it difficult to be making money from there businesses because they are not actually doing the right thing.

self-control is huge. It concerns everything, not only the casino. In business, relationships, or life, its what distinguishes the victors from the losers. Regarding gambling, you have to keep your thoughts clear even if its easy to be caught in the thrill. This is a game, not a means of income.

Making money gambling is difficult. It calls for a great deal of discipline, talent, and a little luck. Thats OK; its not for everyone. What gambling teaches you about yourself is, imo, its true worth. Its like a test, a way to see how you handle pressure and make decisions under stress..

Psychological control is something that would really be that outmost important or something that it is really that relevant, because on the moment that you do lost control and couldnt be able to think up well then you would really be that making that huge mistake into the things that you are really that involving into on which it wont really be just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well on which it is really that indeed important on proper thinking and planning.

On the time or moment that you would be considering yourself dealing up with something like gambling then it would really be just that right or preferred on having that control and moderation specially into finances on which we know that once you do make yourself impulsive then you would really be ending up on having
that huge problem and this isnt really that something recommended.

Controlling you emotions is very important and can not be overly emphasis and it worth reminding any one towards gambling, considering the fact that even when you are at winning position it requires emotions to control yourself as to utilize your winning appropriately and also when you are losing how to manage such situation also requires being in charge of taking care of your emotions as to this regards since winning and Lossing comes with different emotions such that not being able to control your psychology enough can lead gambling addiction.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 04, 2024, 12:44:07 AM

It’s normal to feel extreme emotions when gambling. Be it extreme stress or despair or extreme happiness, both can be equally dangerous. When you experience these extreme emotions you can make decisions that you might not normally would consider when you are not under such extreme circumstances.

It might be difficult but if you don’t want to end up with too much losses, you need to control your emotions

Yeah but controlling those emotions needs time to fully take effect because it is not about instant stop thing especially we are dealing with our own emotions. But it is true that it is dangerous because if we cannot control it we might fall to addiction and people around us might also be affected especially our loved ones.

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It is about controlling yourself and knowing when to bet or stop betting At a certain time. It’s most likely that it is comparable to other types of addiction because if you cannot control yourself then you would probably wind up into problems in your life and then it will seep Into Every part of your life.

I think everything is about psychological control in terms of your motivation or what I think everything is about psychological control in terms of your motivation or what you are doing. It is best that you approach it logically not just gambling.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 28, 2024, 06:59:45 PM

Quote from: Accardo on July 20, 2024, 04:27:56 PM

and a player must apply mental strength to bend the impulse towards his own will.

Yes, and it's not bad , because things as we see them have to be very positive for us, but Above all we must have a lot of mental Strength to resist all the attacks that the game can give us , this is possibly what one as a player must prepare for , but it is basically to have control in the face of losses, I have Always advised before playing to establish how much can be spent and lost, and that's it, this way it is very likely to avoid Problems , whether it be self-control of economies, Impulses, Among other things.

That's how it should be for gamblers who just have enough money, creating a budget and sticking with it. If we lose control we might deposit more which I bet happened to a lot of gamblers including me. IMO, it's an irresponsible thing to do especially if we cannot afford what we are spending anymore. It could become chaos for those who just have enough money for their necessities and payment of bills because once it's spent in gambling, there's no going back to it. Next to that problem is probably getting a loan and that's the worst case that could happen to us. We don't want to be digging our own grave just because we gamble too much.

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I think I will get a lot of criticism, but I am ready to express the opinion that no one can predict how he will behave after a long period of gambling. I have met many confident people who said: "gambling does not affect me."
But they either played in the casino a couple of times or did not play at all. I think that casinos are dangerous precisely because they awaken in any person such emotions that few can expect from themselves.

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