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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 25, 2024, 11:10:20 AM

Quote from: nara1892 on July 24, 2024, 12:10:35 PM

That's right, and this reveals a fact that however we all always like money, that's why we dedicate ourselves to getting involved and betting, and I'm sure that if gambling didn't provide the opportunity to win then there would be no people gambling or maybe very few people who will be interested in gambling.

Yes, and that is a very important point, because many may say or wonder that if a casino only makes losses, why do so many people keep playing? It's simple, sometimes we can be lucky, other times not, and most of us are people who bet on good opportunities and we insist a lot on that, therefore when we are looking for opportunities, why not try a casino? But use the casino in a responsible way, that is, do not put all the money there, because it can be a double-edged sword, if the players are clear about that, there will not be and should not be any problem.

That's true and it could also be addicting to try and get that opportunity that may not come. After I won a max win in slots and shared it, I realized how many gamblers have not even experienced the same thing even though they spent thousands of dollars in slots and a lot of time gambling. Some of them have higher VIP ranks than me and yet they didn't win a max win in their life as a gambler.
That is how long it can get which means which means we cannot just keep on spending and chasing our losses to achieve such a thing. What if what we will receive is just the same amount as we have spent? Then, we did nothing at all. All we had was the perks of having fun but there's also the stressful environment every time we lose. So, I think it's better if we keep it slow and just have fun playing our favorite games. No need to rush and lose the money to them.

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Quote from: nara1892 on July 24, 2024, 12:10:35 PM

That's right, and this reveals a fact that however we all always like money, that's why we dedicate ourselves to getting involved and betting, and I'm sure that if gambling didn't provide the opportunity to win then there would be no people gambling or maybe very few people who will be interested in gambling.

Yes, and that is a very important point, because many may say or wonder that if a casino only makes losses, why do so many people keep playing? It's simple, sometimes we can be lucky, other times not, and most of us are people who bet on good opportunities and we insist a lot on that, therefore when we are looking for opportunities, why not try a casino? But use the casino in a responsible way, that is, do not put all the money there, because it can be a double-edged sword, if the players are clear about that, there will not be and should not be any problem.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 25, 2024, 06:19:15 AM

Quote from: Silberman on July 24, 2024, 05:41:57 PM

Gambling in order to get some kind of excitement is not wrong, gambling becoming the only source of that excitement is what can bring a person a lot of trouble, and that is why we must always looks for other sources of entertainment that do not costs us as much money, as if we are honest gambling can become very expensive if you do it regularly, and if you lose control of yourself then the amount of money you could lose will be enormous and it may take you years to recover from those losses.

Absolutely right, buddy. If a man works a lot and stress accumulates, then it is not necessary to go and try to get rid of stress through gambling. We live in the era of the Internet and we have a lot of different entertainment that can relieve stress: these include movies and TV series and computer games. All this entertainment does not require money, it can all be downloaded for free. And certainly all this will not cause addiction.
Unless the series is too interesting, like Game of Thrones

Exactly, meaning there is no reasonable reason why they prefer gambling to relieve stress compared to other things that are no less enjoyable, and I think if the goal is to find entertainment to relieve stress due to other problems we experience in life So clearly the better and more sensible choice is to look for something else that is entertaining without the slightest risk consequences, especially risks that can lose money, such as gambling, for example, as you said, including watching films, television, or playing general games on a PC.

And if it turns out that the choice is gambling then I think there is something quite suspicious, in the sense that the goal is not to relieve stress but to seek or pursue victory. Although on the other hand I understand that everyone is free to choose, gambling should not be chosen if they use their common sense well to relieve stress at that time.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 24, 2024, 05:41:57 PM

Quote from: bubilas on July 23, 2024, 02:57:09 AM

It seems to me that it is quite dangerous to gamble for the sake of emotions, one might say to play aimlessly.
It’s just as if the gambler allows the game to dominate him, and then the gambler may well understand at a certain moment that he can no longer spend a long time without gambling. That without this he is bored and the world is gray and not fun.
But this is the first sign of addiction and the inability to return to normal life.

Gambling in order to get some kind of excitement is not wrong, gambling becoming the only source of that excitement is what can bring a person a lot of trouble, and that is why we must always looks for other sources of entertainment that do not costs us as much money, as if we are honest gambling can become very expensive if you do it regularly, and if you lose control of yourself then the amount of money you could lose will be enormous and it may take you years to recover from those losses.

Absolutely right, buddy. If a man works a lot and stress accumulates, then it is not necessary to go and try to get rid of stress through gambling. We live in the era of the Internet and we have a lot of different entertainment that can relieve stress: these include movies and TV series and computer games. All this entertainment does not require money, it can all be downloaded for free. And certainly all this will not cause addiction.
Unless the series is too interesting, like Game of Thrones

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Quote from: Wakate on July 24, 2024, 04:26:53 PM

The psychological aspect is what many players are finding difficult to understand. We need to know what we are doing as gamblers so we don't selfishly think that we can make the kind of money we intend to make when we are just trying for nothing. The psychological aspect need to be understood very well for us to be disciplined not to fall victim to such mistakes of gambling too much of becoming an addiction. Addiction has been one of the problems we have been facing as gamblers and when it continues, it could become worse for us to manage if we don't have the resources to control it.

The existence of selfishness that appears will of course make someone only do what they think, and when they can't control themselves, they tend to think only about thinking about themselves being able to win for sure, which makes it difficult for them to get out of gambling. This is the kind of thing that needs to be changed, because in this way they tend to become acutely addicted and with the large number of people who become addicted, the problem lies in their thinking, which could be said to be a psychological problem.

What you say is correct, when addiction occurs, it is usually difficult to recover if the main perpetrator does not have the effort or resources to control themselves. Therefore, before gambling, we must be able to think clearly and realize that gambling is a game of probability where there is little chance that we will get a definite profit. Therefore, we must be able to think that gambling cannot fully enable us to get certain benefits, which must be implemented at the beginning before gambling.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 23, 2024, 02:57:09 AM

It seems to me that it is quite dangerous to gamble for the sake of emotions, one might say to play aimlessly.
It’s just as if the gambler allows the game to dominate him, and then the gambler may well understand at a certain moment that he can no longer spend a long time without gambling. That without this he is bored and the world is gray and not fun.
But this is the first sign of addiction and the inability to return to normal life.

Gambling in order to get some kind of excitement is not wrong, gambling becoming the only source of that excitement is what can bring a person a lot of trouble, and that is why we must always looks for other sources of entertainment that do not costs us as much money, as if we are honest gambling can become very expensive if you do it regularly, and if you lose control of yourself then the amount of money you could lose will be enormous and it may take you years to recover from those losses.

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Quote from: Accardo on July 20, 2024, 04:27:56 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 13, 2024, 06:47:38 PM

Something that I consider dangerous, I don't know, but it is in the group of emotions, is that, the impulses that always come between reason, logic, intelligence and greed appears, that is why for me the best thing will always be to control the money that you are willing to lose, there is no other way, control your coins and impulses? there will be some who do it, I admire them, but it is very easy not to do it, so I think I am one to play it safe, I think that as a person, when you have control of things, you do better in life, in the casino, in whatever.

Would it sound vague to tag gambling a mental battle for players? Psychological it is indeed an endless emotional struggle. Mentally, players have a tendency of justifying what's wrong to become right, thereby, creating room to repeat similar mistakes. This pattern of habit is significantly taking over a collosal amount of every player's psychology to engender lack of control and loss of funds. Which enables easy difficulty in maintaining what you said about wagering money one is able to lose. It's trivially easy to forget this while on a gambling session. An intrinsic mental control have taken over, and a player must apply mental strength to bend the impulse towards his own will.

The psychological aspect is what many players are finding difficult to understand. We need to know what we are doing as gamblers so we don't selfishly think that we can make the kind of money we intend to make when we are just trying for nothing. The psychological aspect need to be understood very well for us to be disciplined not to fall victim to such mistakes of gambling too much of becoming an addiction. Addiction has been one of the problems we have been facing as gamblers and when it continues, it could become worse for us to manage if we don't have the resources to control it.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 24, 2024, 03:57:27 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 24, 2024, 12:18:56 PM

There is no doubt about it, for me the things that have to do with emotions are quite serious, and it is a fact at least for me that it is difficult for me to control emotions and Especially impulses , for me that is the most difficult core to do and control, if we are fully aware of what we are doing is to improve certain things, I do not complicate things, when I control the money that I am going to spend in the casino I give free rein to my Emotions and impulses, and if I lose or there is a problem, I accept it, what you must have discipline is not to deposit more in that game Session.

if you already have these "discipline" guidelines in place, you will survive and there will be no losing streak due to unstable emotions, etc.
But some people who even come early cannot realize "discipline" as the main guideline when they have a problem at gambling.

The impulsive actions carried out make them rash and their emotions unstable.
Deposit more money to avenge their first defeat.

Not going to set an example for others, my own experience, I also once acted impulsively when panic occurred because the first defeat made me feel like it shouldn't have happened.

On the moment or time that you would be playing gambling on your first time or try then you would really be normally having no idea on what are the things that you should gonna do and since you are still noob then at the moment that you will be losing money then it will really be normal that you do become that impulsive. Experience would really be the best teacher on this regard on where you would really be that be able to commit out those bad conditions due to bad situations on which this is really that typical on this manner. This is why it would really be that just important that you do really know on what you are dealign with. If you are someone whose really that playing gambling just for the sake of money making then you are really just that basically making your own grave.

You would really be needing up that control and moderation in terms of the money that you are spending through it. You cant really just that make yourself spend like a madman just
because you are really that wanting to win up more. On the moment that you do lose up big time then this is where realization and regret would really be kicking in, on which
this is really just that a typical scenario.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 24, 2024, 12:18:56 PM

There is no doubt about it, for me the things that have to do with emotions are quite serious, and it is a fact at least for me that it is difficult for me to control emotions and Especially impulses , for me that is the most difficult core to do and control, if we are fully aware of what we are doing is to improve certain things, I do not complicate things, when I control the money that I am going to spend in the casino I give free rein to my Emotions and impulses, and if I lose or there is a problem, I accept it, what you must have discipline is not to deposit more in that game Session.

if you already have these "discipline" guidelines in place, you will survive and there will be no losing streak due to unstable emotions, etc.
But some people who even come early cannot realize "discipline" as the main guideline when they have a problem at gambling.

The impulsive actions carried out make them rash and their emotions unstable.
Deposit more money to avenge their first defeat.

Not going to set an example for others, my own experience, I also once acted impulsively when panic occurred because the first defeat made me feel like it shouldn't have happened.

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Quote from: Odusko on July 22, 2024, 11:46:50 AM

So I believe and agree that majority of those that mental/emotional crisis are all those that have failed in their personal control of both greed and emotions and over stepping their baunderies expecting too much.

There is no doubt about it, for me the things that have to do with emotions are quite serious, and it is a fact at least for me that it is difficult for me to control emotions and Especially impulses , for me that is the most difficult core to do and control, if we are fully aware of what we are doing is to improve certain things, I do not complicate things, when I control the money that I am going to spend in the casino I give free rein to my Emotions and impulses, and if I lose or there is a problem, I accept it, what you must have discipline is not to deposit more in that game Session.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 24, 2024, 11:40:19 AM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 20, 2024, 01:00:46 PM

Some people gamble to win but this same set of people that gamble to win , some are very desperate to win by all means.

Yes. Basically I think that when we all play in a casino or make sports bets we do it because we want to win, and the fun comes by itself, the adrenaline is activated, hopes rise, and our brain only thinks about victory, this is something that is common, but the most important thing about this is not only preparing for victory, I think that all of us by instinct are already prepared for the good news, here the main problem is knowing how to react to the main challenges of failures that we are going to have.

That's right, and this reveals a fact that however we all always like money, that's why we dedicate ourselves to getting involved and betting, and I'm sure that if gambling didn't provide the opportunity to win then there would be no people gambling or maybe very few people who will be interested in gambling.

That's something common as you said, it's normal and not a problem, but of course that doesn't mean we have to be a loser, in the sense of wanting to win but not being ready for the situation of losing. This means that understanding the opportunities and being aware of the risks must be kept carefully in your mind, or what this means is that we must have a neutral point of view towards gambling in the sense of knowing that there is a chance of winning but also being aware of the risk of losing, and this understanding can help you to be more Prioritize responsibility to accept losing situations easily.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 20, 2024, 01:00:46 PM

Some people gamble to win but this same set of people that gamble to win , some are very desperate to win by all means.

Yes. Basically I think that when we all play in a casino or make sports bets we do it because we want to win, and the fun comes by itself, the adrenaline is activated, hopes rise, and our brain only thinks about victory, this is something that is common, but the most important thing about this is not only preparing for victory, I think that all of us by instinct are already prepared for the good news, here the main problem is knowing how to react to the main challenges of failures that we are going to have.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 22, 2024, 11:34:25 AM

Quote from: bubilas on July 22, 2024, 12:38:57 AM

Gambling is just a game for money and that says it all. Money is the most valuable resource in our lives, it can change the fate of anyone by 180 degrees, turn a beggar into a real showman in Hollywood, and such a metamorphosis will happen within a week. If only there was the required amount of money. And absolutely anyone can get that amount of money in a casino.
Each spin of the roulette brings the gambler closer to such a dream. That's why this is all so exciting. And that’s why the first big win makes many people lose self-control.

Just for the sake of money? That won't explain everything because I find someone who gambles just to fill their free time, just for entertainment and nothing more.
There are indeed more gamblers who only target big profits on gambling, but not everyone.

The big wins that may be won at the beginning are those that signal that you or anyone else should stop and enjoy the win.
If there is no control, then the winnings will only turn into losses when the money is put back into gambling.

It seems to me that it is quite dangerous to gamble for the sake of emotions, one might say to play aimlessly.
It’s just as if the gambler allows the game to dominate him, and then the gambler may well understand at a certain moment that he can no longer spend a long time without gambling. That without this he is bored and the world is gray and not fun.
But this is the first sign of addiction and the inability to return to normal life.

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Quote from: Accardo on July 20, 2024, 04:27:56 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 13, 2024, 06:47:38 PM

Something that I consider dangerous, I don't know, but it is in the group of emotions, is that, the impulses that always come between reason, logic, intelligence and greed appears, that is why for me the best thing will always be to control the money that you are willing to lose, there is no other way, control your coins and impulses? there will be some who do it, I admire them, but it is very easy not to do it, so I think I am one to play it safe, I think that as a person, when you have control of things, you do better in life, in the casino, in whatever.

Would it sound vague to tag gambling a mental battle for players? Psychological it is indeed an endless emotional struggle. Mentally, players have a tendency of justifying what's wrong to become right, thereby, creating room to repeat similar mistakes. This pattern of habit is significantly taking over a collosal amount of every player's psychology to engender lack of control and loss of funds. Which enables easy difficulty in maintaining what you said about wagering money one is able to lose. It's trivially easy to forget this while on a gambling session. An intrinsic mental control have taken over, and a player must apply mental strength to bend the impulse towards his own will.

Anyone can become a victim of emotional imbalance that can result into bad gambling experience, some of the cases of addictions that we have hard are all triggered by this physiological crisis, many of them can reason logically when playing a game, and their are carried away with the potential outcome and total in rewards, not minding wether or not, their are onlver spending already trying to get to that rewards level, and once the failed to achieve such a win end, they end up becoming worst off without any possibility of recoverying.
So I believe and agree that majority of those that mental/emotional crisis are all those that have failed in their personal control of both greed and emotions and over stepping their baunderies expecting too much.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 22, 2024, 12:38:57 AM

Gambling is just a game for money and that says it all. Money is the most valuable resource in our lives, it can change the fate of anyone by 180 degrees, turn a beggar into a real showman in Hollywood, and such a metamorphosis will happen within a week. If only there was the required amount of money. And absolutely anyone can get that amount of money in a casino.
Each spin of the roulette brings the gambler closer to such a dream. That's why this is all so exciting. And that’s why the first big win makes many people lose self-control.

Just for the sake of money? That won't explain everything because I find someone who gambles just to fill their free time, just for entertainment and nothing more.
There are indeed more gamblers who only target big profits on gambling, but not everyone.

The big wins that may be won at the beginning are those that signal that you or anyone else should stop and enjoy the win.
If there is no control, then the winnings will only turn into losses when the money is put back into gambling.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 03, 2024, 09:19:43 PM

These two moments of winning or losing will be the reason where a person's psychology will be played in a gamble.
Someone really has to know how to manage their emotions so that they don't get into situations they don't even want.
There must be limits and targets that need to be achieved, not only limited to winning and losing but more than that.

That's true. Managing our emotions regardless of you're winning/losing are crucial. Because often, we're deciding based on what we feel at that moment and not thinking if it's good or bad. Psychological control is important not just if we're playing on casino but also applicable in other situation (family, workplace etc.) That's why we always say to have self-control when we gamble, though for many of us, this is hard.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 03, 2024, 09:19:43 PM

Online casinos are now easily accessible and anyone can create an account and play.
Profits and losses can happen easily.

And at every moment where gambling exerts psychological pressure that makes me sometimes unable to control it.

When Win: When a bet or gambling game that we do gets a win, Greed will appear and this will influence a person to keep playing with a higher target.
Even because someone is too greedy to never make a profit and continue to put all their money into gambling, until in the end everything is taken back by gambling.

When losing: Defeat will indeed be a moment that will make a person's mentality and psychology down, and even it will interfere with their psyche.
A deep sense of disappointment due to an unwanted defeat makes a person tend to be more emotional and want to take revenge for the defeat and ultimately make bets and gambling games without any restrictions.

These two moments of winning or losing will be the reason where a person's psychology will be played in a gamble.
Someone really has to know how to manage their emotions so that they don't get into situations they don't even want.
There must be limits and targets that need to be achieved, not only limited to winning and losing but more than that.

Gambling is just a game for money and that says it all. Money is the most valuable resource in our lives, it can change the fate of anyone by 180 degrees, turn a beggar into a real showman in Hollywood, and such a metamorphosis will happen within a week. If only there was the required amount of money. And absolutely anyone can get that amount of money in a casino.
Each spin of the roulette brings the gambler closer to such a dream. That's why this is all so exciting. And that’s why the first big win makes many people lose self-control.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 03, 2024, 09:19:43 PM

Online casinos are now easily accessible and anyone can create an account and play.
Profits and losses can happen easily.

And at every moment where gambling exerts psychological pressure that makes me sometimes unable to control it.

When Win: When a bet or gambling game that we do gets a win, Greed will appear and this will influence a person to keep playing with a higher target.
Even because someone is too greedy to never make a profit and continue to put all their money into gambling, until in the end everything is taken back by gambling.

When losing: Defeat will indeed be a moment that will make a person's mentality and psychology down, and even it will interfere with their psyche.
A deep sense of disappointment due to an unwanted defeat makes a person tend to be more emotional and want to take revenge for the defeat and ultimately make bets and gambling games without any restrictions.

These two moments of winning or losing will be the reason where a person's psychology will be played in a gamble.
Someone really has to know how to manage their emotions so that they don't get into situations they don't even want.
There must be limits and targets that need to be achieved, not only limited to winning and losing but more than that.

I agree with you, our psychology is highly demanded when it comes to gambling and we tend to react or act differently when it comes to when we have a winning and when we loss, we exhibit certain level of excitement when we win and becomes more confidence enough to even play more with the hope that we ate going to win more, but when are losing anxiety, depression will set in as nobody enjoys losing whether you are gambling for fun or for profits but understanding your psychology will definitely be helpful enough for you to stand in control of your emotions irrespective of your position either when you winning or Lossing.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on July 20, 2024, 11:41:42 PM

Indeed, you will have a psychological battle aside from battling with the house, whether you are winning or losing. As a gambler for years, it is still very hard to control my emotions. Once you get carried away, no matter which side you are on, it will affect you psychologically, even if you don't admit it. This is especially true if you are chasing a quota or there is something you need to buy. It's really hard to stay focused.

Whatever your money is involved will always have a psychological effect on you especially when you know that it is not certain because if you are losing, you will keep thinking of winning back your losses which will showky affect your thoughts toward other things that you are engaging yourself with. Winning is the same and that is why you see that gamblers lose control of their senses and become addicted to gambling because it is a psychological battle which they cannot overcome. However, if you gamble with little amount of money that you can afford to lose, it will help reduce thinking too much.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on July 20, 2024, 11:41:42 PM

Indeed, you will have a psychological battle aside from battling with the house, whether you are winning or losing. As a gambler for years, it is still very hard to control my emotions. Once you get carried away, no matter which side you are on, it will affect you psychologically, even if you don't admit it. This is especially true if you are chasing a quota or there is something you need to buy. It's really hard to stay focused.

Of course, at any time gambling will be an activity that creates various pressures and tensions which are caused by risks that will always be a part and of course this risk will trigger anxiety, especially for those gamblers who bet more often. which exceeds the limits of his abilities.
This means that I admit that at any time gambling will remain an activity that can disturb a person's mental and psychological well-being because it is a game that involves risk, but overall it will most likely be felt more by gamblers who always treat their gambling activities in various ways and actions that tend to be impulsive.

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