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Quote from: rodskee on October 25, 2024, 06:29:05 AM

Gambling is not a shortcut instead a door to be more poorer.

A gambler will not actually become poorer if he gambles responsibly, meaning he gambles with money he can afford and within limits. But often we see people making gambling a shortcut to becoming richer, even though they cannot afford to gamble since their income is very tight, even worse in some cases they go all in knowing that tomorrow they will not have savings or money to buy food. This wrong mindset about gambling is what makes more and more gamblers become poorer when gambling.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 24, 2024, 06:30:13 AM

Let’s not gamble with our future, and definitely don’t leave it up to luck. Of course, we see some people have gotten rich from gambling, but the real question is, will we be as lucky as they were?

Anyone that wants to be that luck should continue gambling with just the amount they can afford the risk and be hopeful that they will one day hit the jackpots. Apart from that, any one that is putting all their hope and money into gambling for the sake of hitting a huge win, will deeply be disappointed because it doesn't happen intentionally.

You're right as long you are using the amount of money you can afford to lose as a gambler , you would be on track and you can easily continue without endangering yourself. So eventually a day will come when you gonna hit the jackpot.

The only issue is that , that day one have to be in their best behaviour, their emotions on check so that they won't get excited too much and jump into another game just to win more and at the end he or she will loss.

If there are other important jobs, needs, activities and distractions for an individual, the person would even forget about gambling most of the time and anytime they go gambling, it's just with the slightest free time and because they have other important needs, they wouldn't have any choice but to risk just a small amount that will not hurt them if lost.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on October 25, 2024, 10:05:59 AM

Quote from: asyakashi on October 24, 2024, 02:24:01 PM

I think the state will not care about it, and even if the government does respond to it, there are certainly many ways that can be done by the casino or its users, to bet excessively, especially for people who are addicted to gambling, the best way is to rely on yourself.

No effort or method produces a 100% positive result; there is always some positive effect too, and many people, no matter what effort the casino or government puts to reduce excessive spending on gambling, will still default, but there is no harm in trying, and if the government can conduct an exclusive program to help educate its citizens on that there is a high chance of gambling addiction being reduced from its previous ratio, even if it's just 1%, it's leaving an effect in society.

no government can really control the spending of gamblers. if it is a legal land-based casino, maybe they can enforce minimum or maximum bets for some classes of games. but for those who play online, it will not really be effective for anyone to limit gamblers except the gamblers themselves.
the control comes from the gamblers themselves, and indeed if the government starts to care about the crisis that may occur in gambling addicts, they can educate gambling addicts to gamble more responsibly. although I am not sure of its success.

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Quote from: asyakashi on October 24, 2024, 02:24:01 PM

I think the state will not care about it, and even if the government does respond to it, there are certainly many ways that can be done by the casino or its users, to bet excessively, especially for people who are addicted to gambling, the best way is to rely on yourself.

No effort or method produces a 100% positive result; there is always some positive effect too, and many people, no matter what effort the casino or government puts to reduce excessive spending on gambling, will still default, but there is no harm in trying, and if the government can conduct an exclusive program to help educate its citizens on that there is a high chance of gambling addiction being reduced from its previous ratio, even if it's just 1%, it's leaving an effect in society.

Gambling cannot be controlled by a country's government alone. Here we have to control from the social level starting from the people of the country. Governments can try to regulate gambling by closing down online casinos. But manual gambling can increase the amount of winnings, it is natural that the government will struggle to maintain peace and order in the country. The government can certainly try to control gambling through various campaigns or programs about gambling, but we have to give up gambling ourselves. If we cannot stop gambling on our own, it is almost impossible or difficult for any government to regulate gambling.

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Quote from: asyakashi on October 24, 2024, 02:24:01 PM

I think the state will not care about it, and even if the government does respond to it, there are certainly many ways that can be done by the casino or its users, to bet excessively, especially for people who are addicted to gambling, the best way is to rely on yourself.

No effort or method produces a 100% positive result; there is always some positive effect too, and many people, no matter what effort the casino or government puts to reduce excessive spending on gambling, will still default, but there is no harm in trying, and if the government can conduct an exclusive program to help educate its citizens on that there is a high chance of gambling addiction being reduced from its previous ratio, even if it's just 1%, it's leaving an effect in society.

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Quote from: Zigabel on October 25, 2024, 09:33:09 AM

Quote from: summonerrk on October 25, 2024, 08:02:32 AM

And the trouble with problem gambling is that having come once and lost, the gambler will not say: "Well, I'm unlucky, I shouldn't gamble."
No. Such a gambler will decide that he is unlucky right now, but tomorrow everything will be different, and he will try again. And then again. That is, he imagines gambling as a labyrinth in which luck can be around every corner, but the deeper he goes into this labyrinth, the more money and self-control he loses.

This is very common when they are chasing losses in most cases, if you are gambling probably just for the fun of it then you may not seem to loose so much or get emotional about your losses but you can be sure that if you are loosing too often, then you are definitely going to loose the fun you do get gambling sooner and may probably channel back the whole energy into wanting to recover which could them be regarded as chasing losses again.

That's mostly the case. Those who play more often could end up getting broke because they are chasing the losses more often. If they maybe playing just to ease some stress or just to play around and maybe try to hit the jackpot then it will be different. It will be more stressful when you are losing more and next to it is losing all your balance which could end up in poverty. Some even kill themselves because they cannot take the stress anymore.
It's easier if we can move on fast after a loss. Call it a day. Just give that money to the online casino because that's their line of business, to take money from the gamblers, not a charity to give back or give more. In short, enjoy a bit of risk using your money and make it count.

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Quote from: summonerrk on October 25, 2024, 08:02:32 AM

And the trouble with problem gambling is that having come once and lost, the gambler will not say: "Well, I'm unlucky, I shouldn't gamble."
No. Such a gambler will decide that he is unlucky right now, but tomorrow everything will be different, and he will try again. And then again. That is, he imagines gambling as a labyrinth in which luck can be around every corner, but the deeper he goes into this labyrinth, the more money and self-control he loses.

This is very common when they are chasing losses in most cases, if you are gambling probably just for the fun of it then you may not seem to loose so much or get emotional about your losses but you can be sure that if you are loosing too often, then you are definitely going to loose the fun you do get gambling sooner and may probably channel back the whole energy into wanting to recover which could them be regarded as chasing losses again.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Lets agree that yea the government controls how people should gamble with what optimum amount they should use per day or weekly as the case may be. The 100 dollar question is, can the government be able to control how many different accounts that gambler decides to open with different gambling platforms using different information details? No, don't think so.

On the other hand, it's ultimately true about what charles-tim said. The government don't give a damn anymore than they do for the taxes they receive from these gambling companies. You have to be consciously responsible for your gambling disposition, nobody's coming to save you not even the government.

The government is always like that; they don't want them to be the ones who know; they always want the government to have control over all the concepts that exist in the country under their control. Especially in gambling because the main factor there is the taxes they can get because that is what corruption can get.

Today, among gamblers, there are many people who are ruining their lives more and more because of the misuse of their gambling, which is why their lives are being ruined because of the addiction to playing gambling online in this age.

Any entity who's an authority would want to be in control of the area he has authority on and that's very common, so for the government wanting to control everything even with gambling it's normal especially when it's where they can generate revenue from.

I believe that people that mess their lives off with irresponsible gambling habit are actually ignorant of the rules themselves because any sensible person would know that he doesn't have to act in a way that what he's involved in should then ruin his life rather than him having fun and some profit from it.

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Quote from: GigaBit on October 25, 2024, 06:53:59 AM

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as long you are using the amount of money you can afford to lose as a gambler , you would be on track and you can easily continue without endangering yourself. So eventually a day will come when you gonna hit the jackpot.

The only issue is that , that day one have to be in their best behaviour, their emotions on check so that they won't get excited too much and jump into another game just to win more and at the end he or she will loss.

That is why people must know how to treat gambling properly so they will not gets in trouble and still have money to fills their daily needs. They will not thinks that gambling can solve poverty but will makes them bankrupt in a fast way.

Some gamblers are depicted as those who place bets despite having no money. They think that since they don't have money, gambling can make up for it and gamble with the money that can not afford to loss. Those who need money do these things more. When they lose, they are more at risk. There is a general idea among them that if they win, they can use that money to solve their needs, but in such situations, gamblers losing ratio is very high. Those gamblers forget that gambling is not a place of income. Maybe many people can earn a lot of money by luck but in reality not everyone is lucky.

And the trouble with problem gambling is that having come once and lost, the gambler will not say: "Well, I'm unlucky, I shouldn't gamble."
No. Such a gambler will decide that he is unlucky right now, but tomorrow everything will be different, and he will try again. And then again. That is, he imagines gambling as a labyrinth in which luck can be around every corner, but the deeper he goes into this labyrinth, the more money and self-control he loses.

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as long you are using the amount of money you can afford to lose as a gambler , you would be on track and you can easily continue without endangering yourself. So eventually a day will come when you gonna hit the jackpot.

The only issue is that , that day one have to be in their best behaviour, their emotions on check so that they won't get excited too much and jump into another game just to win more and at the end he or she will loss.

That is why people must know how to treat gambling properly so they will not gets in trouble and still have money to fills their daily needs. They will not thinks that gambling can solve poverty but will makes them bankrupt in a fast way.

Some gamblers are depicted as those who place bets despite having no money. They think that since they don't have money, gambling can make up for it and gamble with the money that can not afford to loss. Those who need money do these things more. When they lose, they are more at risk. There is a general idea among them that if they win, they can use that money to solve their needs, but in such situations, gamblers losing ratio is very high. Those gamblers forget that gambling is not a place of income. Maybe many people can earn a lot of money by luck but in reality not everyone is lucky.

you are right that not a few people hope that they can get out of financial problems by placing a bet. Although in reality it is very different, because if not controlled then gambling will only lead us to more serious financial problems. And when someone bets with money that they cannot afford to lose, the pressure to win the bet will be even greater, and this can make them act more recklessly. Where when they lose, there will be a feeling that drives them to bet again, with a hope that they can restore the situation, but this actually makes them sink even deeper. gambling is not a way out of financial problems. Luck may be there, but relying on it for daily needs is clearly very risky and often leads to big losses.

Quote from: gunhell16 on October 25, 2024, 07:37:32 AM

The government is always like that; they don't want them to be the ones who know; they always want the government to have control over all the concepts that exist in the country under their control. Especially in gambling because the main factor there is the taxes they can get because that is what corruption can get.

Today, among gamblers, there are many people who are ruining their lives more and more because of the misuse of their gambling, which is why their lives are being ruined because of the addiction to playing gambling online in this age.

The government has levied huge taxes from casinos. But it is unfortunate that the benefits of these taxes are not felt by the community, especially those who are victims of gambling addiction. Which the government should always be able to handle and prevent problems like this through these taxes. and of course corruption is the main problem.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Lets agree that yea the government controls how people should gamble with what optimum amount they should use per day or weekly as the case may be. The 100 dollar question is, can the government be able to control how many different accounts that gambler decides to open with different gambling platforms using different information details? No, don't think so.

On the other hand, it's ultimately true about what charles-tim said. The government don't give a damn anymore than they do for the taxes they receive from these gambling companies. You have to be consciously responsible for your gambling disposition, nobody's coming to save you not even the government.

The government is always like that; they don't want them to be the ones who know; they always want the government to have control over all the concepts that exist in the country under their control. Especially in gambling because the main factor there is the taxes they can get because that is what corruption can get.

Today, among gamblers, there are many people who are ruining their lives more and more because of the misuse of their gambling, which is why their lives are being ruined because of the addiction to playing gambling online in this age.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 24, 2024, 06:30:13 AM

Let’s not gamble with our future, and definitely don’t leave it up to luck. Of course, we see some people have gotten rich from gambling, but the real question is, will we be as lucky as they were?

Anyone that wants to be that luck should continue gambling with just the amount they can afford the risk and be hopeful that they will one day hit the jackpots. Apart from that, any one that is putting all their hope and money into gambling for the sake of hitting a huge win, will deeply be disappointed because it doesn't happen intentionally.

yeah, still defensive gambler is what we need.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 25, 2024, 04:05:10 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on October 24, 2024, 05:02:43 PM

as long you are using the amount of money you can afford to lose as a gambler , you would be on track and you can easily continue without endangering yourself. So eventually a day will come when you gonna hit the jackpot.

The only issue is that , that day one have to be in their best behaviour, their emotions on check so that they won't get excited too much and jump into another game just to win more and at the end he or she will loss.

That is why people must know how to treat gambling properly so they will not gets in trouble and still have money to fills their daily needs. They will not thinks that gambling can solve poverty but will makes them bankrupt in a fast way.

Some gamblers are depicted as those who place bets despite having no money. They think that since they don't have money, gambling can make up for it and gamble with the money that can not afford to loss. Those who need money do these things more. When they lose, they are more at risk. There is a general idea among them that if they win, they can use that money to solve their needs, but in such situations, gamblers losing ratio is very high. Those gamblers forget that gambling is not a place of income. Maybe many people can earn a lot of money by luck but in reality not everyone is lucky.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

I will never lay my cards in gambling knowing that my life will be ruined instead of having better.

Gambling is not a shortcut instead a door to be more poorer.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

I always prefer to look at the situation from an analytical point of view. If someone lost everything and became poor, it means that the casino got his money, but at the same time, not everyone can lose, which means that the casino will give away part of this loser's money as winnings. And that means there will be those who win, it is inevitable. This principle also works the other way around. Therefore, when I hear that someone won the jackpot, I understand that this money was lost by a large number of people at one time.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 25, 2024, 04:05:10 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on October 24, 2024, 05:02:43 PM

as long you are using the amount of money you can afford to lose as a gambler , you would be on track and you can easily continue without endangering yourself. So eventually a day will come when you gonna hit the jackpot.

The only issue is that , that day one have to be in their best behaviour, their emotions on check so that they won't get excited too much and jump into another game just to win more and at the end he or she will loss.

So no matters if that person is a rich or poor people, they will not lose too much money because he knows that if he playing gambling, he should use the money he can afford to lose. If he is poor people, he doesn't have to risk his money to playing gambling and want to make money because he will have the risks of losing the money. That is why people must know how to treat gambling properly so they will not gets in trouble and still have money to fills their daily needs. They will not thinks that gambling can solve poverty but will makes them bankrupt in a fast way.

Responsible person will think ahead and see what's more important before sparing money with entertainment like gambling, but in the otherhand there are people who thinks that combining their entertainment and a source of making money leads them to make a mistake and lose a lot to the point that they'll ends up ruined their finances.

Like what you said, knowing how to deal with gambling will lead you to the right spot and prevents you losing more money than what you can afford to let go.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Well, I think gambling can be risky and lead to money problems, and you've probably seen people struggle because of it. But for people who play responsibly and set limits, it can be just for fun. I agree that the government should have some control to protect people from gambling addiction, though others might see it as limiting freedom (especially for expert gamblers). Still, I don’t think it’s possible, as big casinos would likely block such rules, making it hard to make this happen. Yes! popular casinos (including online ones) got power when it comes to new laws.

it's not everyone that needs to gamble. If you know that you have the tendency of getting too addicted in terms of engaging in a thing as gambling, there's nothing wrong if you don't do it at all. The government has a small role to play in terms of reducing the rate of exposure of people to gambling expecially the underage ones but when it comes to an adult that's matured enough to make decisions for himself, you should know how best not to allow yourself to get exposed to the tendency of becoming a gambling addict.

Same way we can point out a lot of people that got poor through gambling is the same way we can point out a lot of others that hit jackpot and got thier lives changed forever. The role still remains that you gamble what you can afford to loose, use an amount that isn't above 5% of your monthly earning for gambling and set out only selected days for your gambling. It's mostly those that believe that gambling is thier main route out of poverty that becomes poor through gambling.

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Quote from: shanz on October 25, 2024, 04:29:15 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Well, I think gambling can be risky and lead to money problems, and you've probably seen people struggle because of it. But for people who play responsibly and set limits, it can be just for fun. I agree that the government should have some control to protect people from gambling addiction, though others might see it as limiting freedom (especially for expert gamblers). Still, I don’t think it’s possible, as big casinos would likely block such rules, making it hard to make this happen. Yes! popular casinos (including online ones) got power when it comes to new laws.

Each person is responsible for their own life and well-being, so it is quite strange to think that the state should protect anyone from gambling except children, as their psyche is not yet formed. Any adult who plays gambling risks by default should understand all the risks and realise the possibility of problems with both finances and mental health. It is foolish to think that if you do not take care of yourself you will be taken care of by the state. It is time to understand that the state needs you only as a labour force, a warrior and a taxpayer.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 25, 2024, 04:05:10 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on October 24, 2024, 05:02:43 PM

as long you are using the amount of money you can afford to lose as a gambler , you would be on track and you can easily continue without endangering yourself. So eventually a day will come when you gonna hit the jackpot.

The only issue is that , that day one have to be in their best behaviour, their emotions on check so that they won't get excited too much and jump into another game just to win more and at the end he or she will loss.

So no matters if that person is a rich or poor people, they will not lose too much money because he knows that if he playing gambling, he should use the money he can afford to lose. If he is poor people, he doesn't have to risk his money to playing gambling and want to make money because he will have the risks of losing the money. That is why people must know how to treat gambling properly so they will not gets in trouble and still have money to fills their daily needs. They will not thinks that gambling can solve poverty but will makes them bankrupt in a fast way.

Yes, it is only when someone knows about how to properly treat gambling properly, it does not depend on what their financial situation is, meaning regardless of whether they are poor or not they will still be safe if they know how to treat gambling properly and that should be the approach that every gambler should have if they want to stay safe in the long run as you said.

But on the other hand unfortunately there are always some people who misunderstand gambling which is because from the start they are too serious in responding to the chances of winning in gambling so that their focus is diverted, or what I mean is that it is very easy for them to ignore various precautions which should be more prioritized for safety.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Well, I think gambling can be risky and lead to money problems, and you've probably seen people struggle because of it. But for people who play responsibly and set limits, it can be just for fun. I agree that the government should have some control to protect people from gambling addiction, though others might see it as limiting freedom (especially for expert gamblers). Still, I don’t think it’s possible, as big casinos would likely block such rules, making it hard to make this happen. Yes! popular casinos (including online ones) got power when it comes to new laws.

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