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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?


Not for all of them but some uses fake account and the reason I’m saying this is because I’ve seen an influencer that made a video about it and also showed us the account and the name of the casino and all.

With the way he explained it; the site will reach out to you asking for a video of you playing game on their site and then you’ll do your normal promotion and after than they’ll pay you the agreed amount (payment before the video) and he then asked them if he could just create an account and do but they refused that they’ll be the one that will provide the account and also fund it.

In his video he show us the account and also went on to create his own account and then played the same game on both account and he didn’t even lose more than 2 times in the account that was created for him while the account he created ran out of balance.
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In my opinion, this behavior can trigger addiction in novice players where they are hypnotized to have luck like their role models in gambling, maybe this is for those who can already control themselves from gambling just to find new tricks in playing
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It is actually the duty of those social media platform to caution their users or bring down their videos and sanction some. YouTube for example to me isn't so much keen against gambling audience who are underage but they pay much attention to videos that are x-rated and even that also is not strictly adhered to because I see videos that are really not good for children.

So, for the gambling, it hovers on the platform to do a restriction on those owners of handles to deactivate their followers who are underage and or for them to have a way to identify their age. Also, parents have follow up to do also with their children. Some parents are gamblers and they don't see anything wrong if their teenage children have access to gambling platforms.


But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?


There are possibility for that but that will not be done in isolation from the casino that they are advertising because they have to be aware for such publicity, otherwise I don't think they would do that.
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There is nothing wrong with these streamers, they just broadcast their gambling activities and the audience is entertained by what they do on their streams. Regarding the potential for addiction that can arise when watching the stream, it is the sole responsibility of the individual watching, not the streamer. However, we cannot deny the fact that there are some streamers who do not care about the age of their viewers and that is what I think is a more serious problem because children are very vulnerable to gambling addiction.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
It's possible. Try to compare your gaming experience with them. Most of what I experience is a losing streak in the popular online casino in our country so they might advertise them in a different way and they are linked with the online casino itself. I would not believe whatever they show or say if I were you.

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Nom it's not fine especially if they are sharing it on social media. My feed now in my social media account is filled with gambling advertisements and I am starting to get irritated about it. So many names but they will all just take your money without a good fighting chance. Worst, many kids are now using social media for their group messaging and their link to their teachers so they can contact them and vice versa so I bet they will also bump into these streamers and gambling ads even if they don't mean it.
I think there should be another platform on where they can only post those streams, something like kick.com or wherever it's safer that only legal age can see.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Social media is filled with fake people who are out to deceive. This is the reason you should never trust or be influenced by anything you view in these platforms. I pity people who believe all they see on social media because they will end up facing negative consequences. These influencers are out there to make money and not to help.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Children shouldn't be allowed to have access to phones or other gadgets without parental guidance. Minors are more prone to gambling addiction because they might not be able to discern what is wrong and also set boundaries. The activities of these streamers will harm these children and some of them might become addicts.
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I can bet that those online gambling streamers are not gamblers but common influencers so, they takes it upon the media with their falsely illustrations on how to play and win hoping that the audience would be attracted to the gambling sites just with the fact that their role model (s) is also partaking in the activity.

If must believe any of those streamers to be realistic with their media speculations, then it must be real known gamblers as Drake whom we know of being a bettor and not one of those who we never have heard of their gambling histories if not just coming to the media to hype a particular casino just to lure their audience.
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No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.
I kinda agree with your opinion even though I have no proof.

There are 2 reasons why I think streamers not want to stream gambling if they're not getting paid:
1. The games aren't really exciting to play.
2. Many people don't like someone who promote gambling.

Being a streamer isn't easy, it will drain your soul since you're forced to be active, which make you can't enjoy to gamble. For the second one, you will not get much traffic because there are more people who hate gambling than who not.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
gambling advertisements that are widely spread in the form of photos or videos in my opinion are not wrong because this is a business that is indeed developed by its owner, and the name of the business will certainly be developed to become bigger by one of them making photos or videos then distributed online by utilizing social media and the internet, this is a natural thing. Given this, I actually think this still leads to pleasure, with casinos that provide many games to find pleasure but of course it is not free to be able to get pleasure in gambling and with that profit I think it should not be a priority, besides that players who are addicted are their own problem because the casino does not force anyone to gamble excessively.

With streamers who carry out their gambling activities via live streaming or video reenactments, in my opinion, it is also a natural thing because online gambling is currently popular everywhere, especially if gambling is allowed in their country, then it is not a problem. With small children or children who are still minors, they may be familiar with the internet and social media, but this is more directed at parental supervision in my opinion.
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I think it's both, they are promoting fun and fueling addiction, it depends on what kind of gamblers you are referring to. Most gamblers, as it is very well known, gamble for fun, and for them watching gambling streamers is a nice experience, as it is for me for example. Gambling addicts, on the other hand, might dive deeper into their addiction after watching a gambling streamer, but the thing is that they would dive deeper into it anyway, with gambling streamers or without them.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
From what you said that these influencers don't gamble, but have to involve themselves in gambling activities to the point of streaming it live,  shows that they are using fake accounts and they are doing this based on their own selfish interest. If gambling is easy the way they put it to people on social media, why are they using fake accounts instead of real accounts.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
People are dumb to believe most things they see on social media, and some of their followers will definitely fall for them and start gambling believing that it is easy to make profit from gambling. Infact, these people are the ones deceiving the underage, lazy and greedy ones into gambling and fuel addiction.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's an advertisement. Streamers are just doing their job for the money. And they absolutely don't care that minors can see it and get involved at such an early age in the world of excitement. So there is probably nothing surprising or outrageous here if the authorities allow you to watch such broadcasts without restrictions.
I think in a world full of excitement, people have become selfish and self centered that they care only about their personal interests and not about how their actions affect the next person. From the casinos who knows too well that such method promotion could pass the wrong message about gambling to the general public who barely knows a thing about gambling (including the minors) and then to the influencers, who being fully much aware that their contents would pass the wrong message to people that gambling is a bed of roses.  And then down to the government and the authorities who allow such an act to roam freely. It’s just so disheartening.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's an advertisement. Streamers are just doing their job for the money. And they absolutely don't care that minors can see it and get involved at such an early age in the world of excitement. So there is probably nothing surprising or outrageous here if the authorities allow you to watch such broadcasts without restrictions.
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If I’m asked this question a hundred times, my answer would just be the same, which that they’re indirectly fueling addiction. They’re making the public and their followers believe and see the possibility of earning through gambling, thereby passing across the wrong message about gambling. I know we’ve said this more than a million times within the gambling discussion session and I’ll still say it again, Gambling is meant to be solely a fun activity and not some place people decide to go and plant the little money in their pocket with hopes of reaping a bountiful harvest. That’s nothing but a dilution and these celebrities who practice this act are helping to spread this misconception across those who have access to their contents (including minors) which is very bad.

If a celebrity wishes to gamble, no one is stopping them but doing it publicly is something that should be frowned upon, I know they are only indulging in those activities simply to create contents and attract people to their pages or channels in order to generate some revenue but fail to realize this could be detrimental to the viewers. 
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They can using fake accounts if gambling is prohibit in their country so they can still promote the gambling games. But they can also use any account and use fake balance to attract more audience to watch their video and visit the site. You need to asks to that streamers to know for more but they will not tells the truth because that can affect to their channel views.

Even if they say that they use a testnet account with fake balance, we don't know for sure. It is a job from the audience or followers to be wise when they watch the video and not affect to what the streamers do.
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No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.

Then one more thing, all the casino casino streamers online are not just for fun but they hyped the viewers to watch their live stream and encourage
them to also play gambling in the gambling casino they play at.
In this case I completely agree with you, because after all streamers know that gambling is something very risky and they don't want to use personal money to promote a site, I think gambling sites that really want to use streamers will of course pay a certain amount of money as a form of promotional payment, as well as providing the balance that the streamer uses to play,  In addition, sometimes the promoted site has set up the streamer account to be able to get winnings so that it creates an attraction for those who watch it to play on the site, currently the development of social and digital media is developing very rapidly so that the use of streamers is part of the casino marketing strategy in attracting gamblers.
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Their streamers promote the casino, they are required to have fun and cheer in their streams to attract more fans... If this is the case, it will certainly trigger addiction.

Actually, what I know is like that where streamers try to do something more passionate so that more people are interested... sometimes I also see streamer reruns on X that are so excited so that many audiences are interested.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

That is very alarming to see how many streaming personalities are promoting gambling, especially when you consider most of their audience mightn't be mature enough to understand the risks involved. Whether they actually use genuine or fake accounts matters little; the thing is that gambling remains to be presented as exciting and fun while the real financial risks are not shown. If they target minor aged audiences then this is worst because these kids will really get easily convinced by their favorite celebrities to gamble without knowing the severity of this consequence.

The claim about the streamers' use of fake balances on the test accounts would not even surprise me, considering that some of them are using that as a way to make the whole gamble look more attractive and risk-free. It is just a reminder to be careful about what we see online and to know that everything, in most cases, is staged for entertainment or promotional purposes. What's more worrying is that it lacks such regulation, especially in places where gambling is limited or aggressively marketed. Perhaps paying more heed to how it impacts the youth viewers could facilitate any need for better guidelines.

The internet is a free place where people can post whatever they like on their platform, or their channels. It now boils down to the channel owner restricting the video, putting age restrictions from eighteen above to help the teenagers. Again, parents have a primary role to play in educating kids about gambling so they don't start developing certain gambling habits at a young age.

The channels that stream gambling live have their reasons - either they want attention, they want to grow their page, or they just want to show how they play-so it's not promoting gambling addiction. Somebody who watches with the intention of learning might just look, learn, and go away.

I don't think the channels go on and tell you to keep playing until you're in debt. Even if they use large sums of money to play in the live stream, that could be their budget. So because you saw a certain person play ten games in a row doesn't mean you should do the same or use the exact budget to play.

They didn't even predict their win, they just play, and sometimes they're lucky to win. So you it should in no way instigate addition. A gambler should be able to make decisions by themselves; they shouldn't be influenced by live streams.

Yes, the internet is a free space and people have the liberty to post what they want. That being said, even if there are age restrictions, it's hard to be fully protective of the other minors from exposure to content that could lead them into unhealthy habits such as gambling. Indeed, parents bear a great responsibility in guiding their children. However, reality dictates that not all parents watch their children closely enough when it comes to online matters.

While I concur with the argument that streaming would not necessarily encourage people to just keep on gambling mindlessly, the problem is that streams of gambling only make it look effortlessly exciting and fun, showing no real danger. Even if they don't tell you to "Keep playing until you're in debt," the frequent winning or the greatness of a lot of wagering makes viewers, especially the younger ones or those already hooked on risky behavior, feel that way subliminally. With it comes the risk of being addictive for some, and when they're gambling and winning big on streams, it makes people really think they can do the same, whereas the odds are against them. Of course, content creators should be more open to the risks involved in gambling and remind their viewers to gamble responsibly in a very genuine way, especially because of the influence on the audience-thenever intentional, always real.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
It is possible that some streamers are using fake platform that look identical to the real casino and there is no way people will know, but some stupid people will claim that it is not possible, simply because casinos use game providers, I believe they don't just get it.

It is also possible that streamers are using the real casino when gambling online, but since streamers are always making money, either from their viewers or from YouTube service they won't mind losing money, I just don't want to believe that everything is as it is.

Everyone is free to believe what they want to believe in but I think differently, streamers aren't necessary in my own case, they are too deceiving and they will increase the bar of running after jackpots.
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The internet is a free place where people can post whatever they like on their platform, or their channels. It now boils down to the channel owner restricting the video, putting age restrictions from eighteen above to help the teenagers. Again, parents have a primary role to play in educating kids about gambling so they don't start developing certain gambling habits at a young age.

The channels that stream gambling live have their reasons - either they want attention, they want to grow their page, or they just want to show how they play-so it's not promoting gambling addiction. Somebody who watches with the intention of learning might just look, learn, and go away.

I don't think the channels go on and tell you to keep playing until you're in debt. Even if they use large sums of money to play in the live stream, that could be their budget. So because you saw a certain person play ten games in a row doesn't mean you should do the same or use the exact budget to play.

They didn't even predict their win, they just play, and sometimes they're lucky to win. So you it should in no way instigate addition. A gambler should be able to make decisions by themselves; they shouldn't be influenced by live streams.
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