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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Is there ever a fake account from original gambling site? To me I don't think that is true because take for example as stake.com they don't permits fake account and if you make account you have to pass throughout verification process, and of course they can't show fake balance to their streamers.

Except those people that are streaming make a separate site from the original site were they would have to impersonate the original site to lure people into their streaming sites and they can maneuver their balance to make it so much attractive to their followers on social media.

Then lastly, I don't think they are promoting addiction because as we already know it's our core duty to gamble responsibly, if you think they are promoting addiction then there is no need for gambling site to operate if you think so, therefore the best choice lies on the followers to gamble responsible not to get addicted while gambling.

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Neither the streamers nor the casinos are now worried about the underage people. All they want is money deposited in their casino. Once money is inside, no matter what strategy you use or how tactically you play, you will end up losing only. For this reason, they are paying these streamers and social media influencers a high amount to promote their casinos in an organic manner. People think that the influencers are gambling from their own money, but it’s actually dummy money credited by the casino owners, and the bets are scripted many times to add adrenaline rush in the streams. Poor audiences fall for this scam and become the victims.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I have never been in contact with someone who has personally partnered with a casino or a bookie, so I cannot be 100% sure, though what I have heard and read is casinos giving a substantial part of the deposit of the streamer in credit for them to gamble during entire hours in the front of their computers and entertain their viewers, while at the same time advertising the casino they are gambling on.
In the topic of children and teens having access to those streams, I am the first one who will condemn anyone who is below of the age of 18-21 to have recurring access to casinos and gambling streams, for obvious reasons and it is in most part responsibility of parents to check what their kids do on the internet, providers of products and services cannot be completely guilty on the irresponsibility of adults who are not good at parenting.

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We can all agree that the internet is a major influence and impact on our society especially on the youths. A lot of young people got introduced to gambling from adverts and posts from streamers on different platforms. You must understand that streamers would advertise anything that pays them it doesn't matter if it has a negative impact, they are just after the money. In my opinion I would say that they are doing more of fueling and encouraging addiction than promoting fun. A lot of teenagers idolize a lot of streamers and they would get involved in whatever they promote.

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They are getting paid for promoting gambling, if it was free, they would never do that. It's that they are running their own households with that money and I am sure, most of them do not even care about their fans or followers. In the end, it's just a promotion for most of them which doesn't have to be from heart. And you know what? Most of the viewers that are watching them ALREADY gamble, so not a big deal.

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As far as I know, very often the casino pays the streamer a fixed fee in the form of a certain hourly rate.

There is also an option when the streamer receives payment for each broadcast he conducts. In such situations, the relationship between the online casino and the streamer is essentially a civil contract with a fixed payment for the services rendered.

At the same time, some streamers are excellent showmen. Their bright shows are very popular with viewers. Thus, viewers get bright emotions and good entertainment.

Streamers receive additional income from online casinos. There are situations when a streamer develops a gambling addiction and becomes a gambler. This happens especially often in situations where there is an agreement with the online casino that the streamer plays for a certain amount of money and everything that he does not lose during the game, he can then take for himself.

If the streamer is not psychologically stable enough, then in this case he may develop a gambling addiction.

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They are working to fuel addiction. They know things about hormones very well, they know what to do for it.
The preferences of people who gamble here are important, in my opinion, they should not watch them and should not waste time in unreliable casinos.
If I were a streamer, I would definitely make a deal with a casino.

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Quote from: D ltr on October 22, 2024, 06:27:12 AM

In my opinion, this behavior can trigger addiction in novice players where they are hypnotized to have luck like their role models in gambling, maybe this is for those who can already control themselves from gambling just to find new tricks in playing

It looks fun at first but who will take their minds off a streamed live jackpot? Anyone watching online streamers are punishing themselves, because they will not have the same results as the streamers, one thing that people don't get is we can't compare ourselves to streamers.

1. They have a lot of backers, most especially from the casinos.
2. They are always well funded, even if they lose money online while streaming the viewers will likely fund them back.
3. The stream service, aka YouTube and others are paying these people too, and they mostly have millions of viewers.

If you are a gambler and never watched any streamers gambling online you have no idea what you have done right, the fastest way to lose the mind is watching streamers hit the JP online and you having nothing even if you use the same casino as them.

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The core of the discussion is not much different from some other topics that we often find, but it doesn't matter because it's still interesting to discuss. Live broadcasts carried out by streamers or people who have followers or public figures are carried out with the aim of getting money from the agreements they make with the casino, meaning I will say that your assumption about streamers playing using fake accounts is correct, the game scenario has been arranged in such a way by the casino behind the scenes which is simple so that streamers can easily achieve significant wins and the goal is none other than to make the audience captivated and register on the promoted site.

Simply put, the more people are interested in registering, the greater the commission a streamer will get, so their goal in doing the broadcast is not to promote entertainment but to make people captivated and get commissions which of course can trigger addiction, but streamers will not care about any impact that will be experienced by the audience, the point is they do the promotion to get a lot of money.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I would say that they use fake account because for instance, there's this influencer I love whom I followed online, at some he began to advertise how he profits from casino games and the way he wins and usually show off his wins, but while following his methods, I found out that I barely win using the method. it can be said they're fueling addiction because it isn't actually easy the way they advertise it, and anything that one is doing, should understand that no one would bear responsibility of the risk, you alone, this streamers only care for the money they make for promoting the platforms period.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on October 22, 2024, 07:32:09 AM

Quote from: fruktik on October 22, 2024, 07:12:34 AM

As far as I know, these streamers earn good money from casino affiliate programs. At the same time, they play with the money they received from referrals. Thus, these video bloggers do not spend their personal money on gambling. These people have it good. Wow, how many times have I watched how thousands of dollars are lost in just a few minutes. It's just a nightmare. No, I couldn't do that. It's just not my thing.

Steamers don't have to gamble with their own money. They promote these gambling games for some money, no doubt causing a negative impact on the society through such a system where minors enter without knowing about gambling. Gambling is not the same for an adult and a minor.

When a generation gets into gambling from minors to teens then nothing good can be expected from that generation. I think strict action should be taken against such steamers. Gambling is by no means something to be openly promoted to all types of people. I never consider gambling as something to promote randomly, if someone wants to enter gambling, he will enter of his own free will. In particular, it is best not to advertise in places where a minor is likely to see such advertising. Or arrangements should be made so that such steam does not come in front of minors.

The casino platform will pay these streamers for advertising appropriately, besides, they also have accounts programmed to win to attract engagement volume, some of the rewards will come from the casino's revenue, so even if they gamble a little, it won't be able to break the huge amount of money they can receive. Morality is also very much when they remind teenagers to limit and have fun as a priority, not to get too deep into gambling, but voluntarily rushing into betting is also too much, the social part does not consider that advice, they only consider the desires that are lingering.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction?

Sometimes we can see how a person or company provides information, especially about the gaming and e-sports industry, sometimes the live streamer can be entertaining, providing tips and ways to win when playing games, This is indeed the most effective trick often applied by the gambling industry, which can tempt those who don't like gambling to try gambling.

Regardless of the reasons they give, what is certain is that broadcasting content using the Streamer method on social media for gambling platforms, will result in many people wanting to try and do it, It's not just an addiction, it's up to us to gamble or not, how we respond to the streamer, they only advertise, all actions are up to us.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on October 22, 2024, 07:32:09 AM

Steamers don't have to gamble with their own money. They promote these gambling games for some money, no doubt causing a negative impact on the society through such a system where minors enter without knowing about gambling. Gambling is not the same for an adult and a minor.

When a generation gets into gambling from minors to teens then nothing good can be expected from that generation. I think strict action should be taken against such steamers. Gambling is by no means something to be openly promoted to all types of people. I never consider gambling as something to promote randomly, if someone wants to enter gambling, he will enter of his own free will. In particular, it is best not to advertise in places where a minor is likely to see such advertising. Or arrangements should be made so that such steam does not come in front of minors.

Why does it all come down to banning everything right away? Why not find a compromise? After all, these streamers also want to eat and live well. You can't just take away people's livelihoods. Bans have never led to anything good. We should approach this issue in more detail and find a solution that will not leave either side dissatisfied. This is what is called a reasonable approach. Humans are given a brain for a reason.

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Quote from: fruktik on October 22, 2024, 07:12:34 AM

As far as I know, these streamers earn good money from casino affiliate programs. At the same time, they play with the money they received from referrals. Thus, these video bloggers do not spend their personal money on gambling. These people have it good. Wow, how many times have I watched how thousands of dollars are lost in just a few minutes. It's just a nightmare. No, I couldn't do that. It's just not my thing.

Steamers don't have to gamble with their own money. They promote these gambling games for some money, no doubt causing a negative impact on the society through such a system where minors enter without knowing about gambling. Gambling is not the same for an adult and a minor.

When a generation gets into gambling from minors to teens then nothing good can be expected from that generation. I think strict action should be taken against such steamers. Gambling is by no means something to be openly promoted to all types of people. I never consider gambling as something to promote randomly, if someone wants to enter gambling, he will enter of his own free will. In particular, it is best not to advertise in places where a minor is likely to see such advertising. Or arrangements should be made so that such steam does not come in front of minors.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

One things for sure that these streamers are really that promoting something on which they've been paid for on doing so. This is why it is really that important at least that you should be wary
that you shouldnt really be trying out to copy them on what they've been doing. If you do find yourself that being entertained on the things that they've been doing then it will really be just that
right that you should be trying out to have that self control. Dont try to copy out on what they've been doing because it will really be just that causing up that kind of desperate on which this is something
that will really be resulting into such potential problem that you might be able to encounter later on. This is why it will really be that recommended at least on what are the things that you should gonna do.

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As far as I know, these streamers earn good money from casino affiliate programs. At the same time, they play with the money they received from referrals. Thus, these video bloggers do not spend their personal money on gambling. These people have it good. Wow, how many times have I watched how thousands of dollars are lost in just a few minutes. It's just a nightmare. No, I couldn't do that. It's just not my thing.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It is quite possible that this is one of the ways to promote the casino, a kind of advertising, in which they use famous bloggers with a large audience. An account cannot be provided to a blogger for these purposes, it is provided to him so that he can shoot videos and play until he gets a big win.

I come across quite a lot of such videos on Twitter, maybe for gullible players this will be a good lure, maybe someone will believe that these are real wins, this is actually how advertising works, but it seems to me that for most experienced players it will be obvious that this is advertising.

The thing is how each player will personally perceive this, for example, most players will think that this is nonsense and that the streamer is just trying to attract more players through his referral link. But there will be a small part of those who will actually do this and register and maybe some of them will make huge deposits and lose their savings or income from their business. Also, those who are at home without work will be interested in this and decide that this is easy money, but will fall into a trap. I also know the story of mothers who are at home taking care of small children and suddenly they decide that they will beat other more experienced players and the casino, lol.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Yea, it might be true that they are using fake account because when you see their winning sometimes it seems very unrealistic, sometimes they make it look real to the audience when they lose little and contiue winning big with those fake balance in the fake acount whatever but once one get involved with their style you get doomed, I personally see those stuffs as promotion to lure people so I think every other person should see it as it is in other not to fall for the trap of chasing loss and in the end being addicted in the process.

It isn't good at all, although for the minors i dont know how they could be restrained from viewing all those bullshit but even though they are been monitored, what happens when we are not around them, I think this calls for much concern because this might put those minors in danger hence they don't understand the truth behind what they are seeing and also can't take decision of their own, as for matured minds viewing those falacy, I think we should be able to control ourselves when we come in contact with such things since we know the truth behind gambling, I think there should be a kind of restriction to those kind of video in the social media to avoid misleading the innocent audeince in other not to misplace priority.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It is quite possible that this is one of the ways to promote the casino, a kind of advertising, in which they use famous bloggers with a large audience. An account cannot be provided to a blogger for these purposes, it is provided to him so that he can shoot videos and play until he gets a big win.

I come across quite a lot of such videos on Twitter, maybe for gullible players this will be a good lure, maybe someone will believe that these are real wins, this is actually how advertising works, but it seems to me that for most experienced players it will be obvious that this is advertising.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

You need to first ask yourself: What is the purpose of these streamers? The answer to that question would be: to make money. So how do they make money? By having more viewers. And why do people view their streams? Because they do extraordinary things like gambling with giant sums of money or winning an unrealistic amount of money. The only possible way to actually do something like that consistently is by faking it.

So obviously in order to get more viewers they are going to manufacture all their videos.

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