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hero member
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You wan chili saus?
Yes, that's fine, as long as you only have one type of miner per controller. Smiley
newbie
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Is anyone who has Black Widow / Fury's setup preferably multiple units on the same controller available for a chat on IRC?  It'd be super rad and I would be eternally grateful! I'm MalkbabY on Freenode.net

Thanks so much!!! Smiley

Unfortunately it's not supported at the moment, you can only have one type of miner per zenController currently.

It's drawing about 4.5 amps @120v.  About 540 Watts.  I have it running from a 550W Rosewill 80Plus Gold PSU.  Will probably have to switch to something bigger...


FWIW, my Black Widow that arrived an hour ago is hashing away at 14MH/s.

How much power is it drawing? I have mine plugged into a 650w EVGA 80Gold PSU that's drawing 89w at idle (300w with the BW plugged in). AS SOON as I start mining, it shuts down and I have to CMOS reset my PC to even get it to boot back up.

These things are drawing a lot of power. I have a 600W Thermaltake TR2 and it's barely cutting it for a Black Widow. Word of caution guys, do not run both 6-pin PCIE connections off the same line on the PSU, the wires get dangerously hot! I mean melted plastic hot. It's a fire risk. Those wires are not mean to draw 600W and are not sufficient gauge, make sure you use two separate 6-pin PCI connections, not the single with a chained 6-pin PCIE off it. I learnt this the hard way and have the melted PSU wires to show for it..  Undecided


Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date

I love the miners, my beef is that there's pretty much zero information out there from GAW Miners regarding the units and there's also very little information about the Zen Miners controllers.  It'd be great if we could get some concrete information!  I definitely appreciate your efforts brining the miners to market, but it would be nice if there was a basic FAQ about how to set them up and a realistic assessment of the power requirements.

I know that the power requirements might be higher now because of software, but you need to let us know what they actually are so that we can purchase appropriate equipment.  I have several Black Widow miners and they're sucking so much power that they are triggering the overload on the 500W and 600W power supplies I bought for them....This seems somewhat crazy considering your webpage currently says they only draw 370W which should do more than OK on a 500W / 600W gold PSU running nothing else.  I need to know the real requirements so that I can purchase power supplies since you chose not to provide them with the product.  It would have made a lot more sense to include a decent power supply instead of a miner controlling software.  

I've never heard anyone clamor for a raspberry pi that links to a half banked unfinished web interface, but everyone wants to turn their miner on.  PSU > controllers any day.  my 2 cents.  Muchos Gracias again!

Totally agree. I love the miner, it's a great bit of kit, but it's drawing close to 2x the power spec and people need to be aware of this. If nothing else it could be a fire hazard. Also it's pretty unintuitive the way they are 8-pin female connectors on the back of the Black Widow, but you must use only 6-pin PCIE connectors to power it. The remaining two pins are unused.

As for the zecController, the idea is great, but it really seems not ready for prime-time. I tried my best to use them, the first I got up and running fine, but then I was unable to add any further zenControllers to my account...which meant my miners would only hash at GAW's nicehash BTC address with no way for me to change that. Contacted support, but they are clearly swamped, so after a few hours I bailed, rooted the Pi, disabled all the cloudminer pyton scripts, and ran cgminer myself. They're working great like this. I really like the idea, but right now, I have to say I don't think they are ready for anyone with more tahn the most basic of needs (one zenController, one type of miner).

Please GAW, put out an FAQ for this hardware, especially about the power supply requirements and connectors, a simple getting started sheet included in the box would have gone a long way towards a smoother initial experience.

I still think GAW are great and love the miner, really nice looking machine, a great new addition to the ASIC line-up, and I in not way want to return it, but there is definitely room for improvement at the moment on the package and support side. On the plus side now I have them running on my rooted Pi they are hashing away beautifully, great speed. The hardware itself is good. Smiley

Thanks for answering some questions.  My next questions is about the black widows...is it OK to use a USB hub to chain 3 or more Black widows to a single controller? Smiley
hero member
Activity: 655
Merit: 504
You wan chili saus?
Is anyone who has Black Widow / Fury's setup preferably multiple units on the same controller available for a chat on IRC?  It'd be super rad and I would be eternally grateful! I'm MalkbabY on Freenode.net

Thanks so much!!! Smiley

Unfortunately it's not supported at the moment, you can only have one type of miner per zenController currently.

It's drawing about 4.5 amps @120v.  About 540 Watts.  I have it running from a 550W Rosewill 80Plus Gold PSU.  Will probably have to switch to something bigger...


FWIW, my Black Widow that arrived an hour ago is hashing away at 14MH/s.

How much power is it drawing? I have mine plugged into a 650w EVGA 80Gold PSU that's drawing 89w at idle (300w with the BW plugged in). AS SOON as I start mining, it shuts down and I have to CMOS reset my PC to even get it to boot back up.

These things are drawing a lot of power. I have a 600W Thermaltake TR2 and it's barely cutting it for a Black Widow. Word of caution guys, do not run both 6-pin PCIE connections off the same line on the PSU, the wires get dangerously hot! I mean melted plastic hot. It's a fire risk. Those wires are not mean to draw 600W and are not sufficient gauge, make sure you use two separate 6-pin PCI connections, not the single with a chained 6-pin PCIE off it. I learnt this the hard way and have the melted PSU wires to show for it..  Undecided


Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date

I love the miners, my beef is that there's pretty much zero information out there from GAW Miners regarding the units and there's also very little information about the Zen Miners controllers.  It'd be great if we could get some concrete information!  I definitely appreciate your efforts brining the miners to market, but it would be nice if there was a basic FAQ about how to set them up and a realistic assessment of the power requirements.

I know that the power requirements might be higher now because of software, but you need to let us know what they actually are so that we can purchase appropriate equipment.  I have several Black Widow miners and they're sucking so much power that they are triggering the overload on the 500W and 600W power supplies I bought for them....This seems somewhat crazy considering your webpage currently says they only draw 370W which should do more than OK on a 500W / 600W gold PSU running nothing else.  I need to know the real requirements so that I can purchase power supplies since you chose not to provide them with the product.  It would have made a lot more sense to include a decent power supply instead of a miner controlling software.  

I've never heard anyone clamor for a raspberry pi that links to a half banked unfinished web interface, but everyone wants to turn their miner on.  PSU > controllers any day.  my 2 cents.  Muchos Gracias again!

Totally agree. I love the miner, it's a great bit of kit, but it's drawing close to 2x the power spec and people need to be aware of this. If nothing else it could be a fire hazard. Also it's pretty unintuitive the way they are 8-pin female connectors on the back of the Black Widow, but you must use only 6-pin PCIE connectors to power it. The remaining two pins are unused.

As for the zecController, the idea is great, but it really seems not ready for prime-time. I tried my best to use them, the first I got up and running fine, but then I was unable to add any further zenControllers to my account...which meant my miners would only hash at GAW's nicehash BTC address with no way for me to change that. Contacted support, but they are clearly swamped, so after a few hours I bailed, rooted the Pi, disabled all the cloudminer pyton scripts, and ran cgminer myself. They're working great like this. I really like the idea, but right now, I have to say I don't think they are ready for anyone with more tahn the most basic of needs (one zenController, one type of miner).

Please GAW, put out an FAQ for this hardware, especially about the power supply requirements and connectors, a simple getting started sheet included in the box would have gone a long way towards a smoother initial experience.

I still think GAW are great and love the miner, really nice looking machine, a great new addition to the ASIC line-up, and I in not way want to return it, but there is definitely room for improvement at the moment on the package and support side. On the plus side now I have them running on my rooted Pi they are hashing away beautifully, great speed. The hardware itself is good. Smiley
newbie
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Hi everyone

I do not want to Hi-Jack this forum but I have created a program to help Gaw and Zeus Miners to set up their config.bat files with support to start up cgminer with them and also upon closing my app and opening it again it has the option to retrieve your previous config.
It also lists all the available COM Ports for you to add to the config.

I have made the code available for review so that anyone can look for themselves and see that there is nothing malicious has been added.
This is my first C#(PC Program) in 3 years, I have been coding for Ipad and Android mostly.


Link >>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lwv8p2qj3pepzf0/AABBNg3AfT82KHag3AmF13fYa

Link to litecointalk forum >> https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20078.0


Hi everyone forgot to add
 --nocheck-golden --ltc-debug --nocheck-scrypt options to my program below

someone anyone please give it a try I can't test to see if it will work with the miners

https://i.imgur.com/tZkCy6c.jpg
sr. member
Activity: 532
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Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date

why isnt this posted on the website

page not found http://www.gawminers.com/shipping-returns/


Looks like they fixed it.  Thanks GAW!

yep that was quick



newbie
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Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date

You're not getting them away from us that easily !!
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date

why isnt this posted on the website

page not found http://www.gawminers.com/shipping-returns/


Looks like they fixed it.  Thanks GAW!
hero member
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@halofirebtc
So I don't have a kill-a-watt, but the Falcon just melted my 850W 80Plus Gold Seasonic. I've ordered a 1050W replacement.

To be fair, the PSU was not new, and had been powering my GPU rig for a while (and running at pretty high % utilized too).

Someone mentioned testing close to 1000/1100. Maybe cancel that 1050 and jump to 1200W just for better utilization?
Good call. Canceled the order and upgraded to the 1250W model.

i can confirm it uses that much. BUT if you have mobo connected too, you're up to the limits of a 1250. im at 1230 on a 1200. No bueno.
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Better to have 100 friends than 100 rubles

Man those numbers are high.  

   I am doing 10mh at 167 watts on 2 gridseed blades and 1 gridseed  5 chip .  and one of the gridseed blades is defective .  I should be doing 11.0mh

but I have  a 1200 watt plat seasonic  which is more efficient then your psu.   still  you are 3.4x the power for   1.5 x the hash


Something is wrong with the firmware these miner should be at much lower numbers.

  I am doing 16.7 watts an mh  with the gridseeds

Which raises the $64M question:  Do our GAW miners use the same chip as the Zeus?  Odd they were both released within days of each other, at similar price points, zenminer supports both, but the GAWs power usage seems to be twice what the Zeus advertises (I haven't seen if they are actually delivering on that advertisement).

Some have been guessing the same chip, but different board designs?  If so, there might be hope for a firmware patch to greatly cut the power down.
newbie
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Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date

I love the miners, my beef is that there's pretty much zero information out there from GAW Miners regarding the units and there's also very little information about the Zen Miners controllers.  It'd be great if we could get some concrete information!  I definitely appreciate your efforts brining the miners to market, but it would be nice if there was a basic FAQ about how to set them up and a realistic assessment of the power requirements.

I know that the power requirements might be higher now because of software, but you need to let us know what they actually are so that we can purchase appropriate equipment.  I have several Black Widow miners and they're sucking so much power that they are triggering the overload on the 500W and 600W power supplies I bought for them....This seems somewhat crazy considering your webpage currently says they only draw 370W which should do more than OK on a 500W / 600W gold PSU running nothing else.  I need to know the real requirements so that I can purchase power supplies since you chose not to provide them with the product.  It would have made a lot more sense to include a decent power supply instead of a miner controlling software.  

I've never heard anyone clamor for a raspberry pi that links to a half banked unfinished web interface, but everyone wants to turn their miner on.  PSU > controllers any day.  my 2 cents.  Muchos Gracias again!
newbie
Activity: 37
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So I don't have a kill-a-watt, but the Falcon just melted my 850W 80Plus Gold Seasonic. I've ordered a 1050W replacement.

To be fair, the PSU was not new, and had been powering my GPU rig for a while (and running at pretty high % utilized too).

Someone mentioned testing close to 1000/1100. Maybe cancel that 1050 and jump to 1200W just for better utilization?
Good call. Canceled the order and upgraded to the 1250W model.
hero member
Activity: 938
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@halofirebtc
Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your purchase

But I purchased May 4th.... :/
lmao, just playing.
I want to keep, but need the new software.
full member
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Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your purchase

Short on supply, are you ?  Tongue
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
What about calculating in the increase of hardware errors?
The overclock is actually more efficient:

300 = 12.0MH/s @ 473w (39.4 watts per MH)
328 = 13.5MH/s @ 512w (37.9 watts per MH)
360 = 15.5MH/s @ 568w (36.6 watts per MH)

Edit: Tests performed with an 850W 80+ Bronze PSU.

Bumped my Black Widow clocks to 360 and I'm now getting 15.5MH/s.  More HW errors and power consumption went up of course...

Did you do a side by side to compare efficiency? Make sure the OC is worth it Smiley


Man those numbers are high.  

   I am doing 10mh at 167 watts on 2 gridseed blades and 1 gridseed  5 chip .  and one of the gridseed blades is defective .  I should be doing 11.0mh

but I have  a 1200 watt plat seasonic  which is more efficient then your psu.   still  you are 3.4x the power for   1.5 x the hash


Something is wrong with the firmware these miner should be at much lower numbers.

  I am doing 16.7 watts an mh  with the gridseeds
full member
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Hi Guys,

Just a reminder, you can return your miner for any reason for a full refund. This will last 14 days after your delivery date
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https://wagabet.com/?ref=4GhhtoyKXXeVtx83ispZ1T
What about calculating in the increase of hardware errors?
The overclock is actually more efficient:

300 = 12.0MH/s @ 473w (39.4 watts per MH)
328 = 13.5MH/s @ 512w (37.9 watts per MH)
360 = 15.5MH/s @ 568w (36.6 watts per MH)

Edit: Tests performed with an 850W 80+ Bronze PSU.

Bumped my Black Widow clocks to 360 and I'm now getting 15.5MH/s.  More HW errors and power consumption went up of course...

Did you do a side by side to compare efficiency? Make sure the OC is worth it Smiley
newbie
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Anyone with multiple miners want to chat on IRC? Cheesy
newbie
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I neglected to say that this is a build for WINDOWS!!!  Edited original post.

Hah.  Yep thats the first thing I did too. Smiley

If you're anything like me, you really like the Curses interface for CGMiner.  Why on Earth did GAWminers leave out Curses?

Well, after watching endless scrolling without lots of useful feedback all day, I couldn't take it anymore...

So, I compiled The GAWminer Edition of CGMiner 3.1.1 WITH CURSES SUPPORT!

Now, it looks like the CGMiner we're all used to. :-)

It's available on my miner compilation page at http://sgminer.builders (Yes, that's a real URL)
sr. member
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Hah.  Yep thats the first thing I did too. Smiley

If you're anything like me, you really like the Curses interface for CGMiner.  Why on Earth did GAWminers leave out Curses?

Well, after watching endless scrolling without lots of useful feedback all day, I couldn't take it anymore...

So, I compiled The GAWminer Edition of CGMiner 3.1.1 WITH CURSES SUPPORT!

Now, it looks like the CGMiner we're all used to. :-)

It's available on my miner compilation page at http://sgminer.builders (Yes, that's a real URL)
newbie
Activity: 46
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If you're anything like me, you really like the Curses interface for CGMiner.  Why on Earth did GAWminers leave out Curses?

Well, after watching endless scrolling without lots of useful feedback all day, I couldn't take it anymore...

So, I compiled The GAWminer Edition of CGMiner 3.1.1 FOR WINDOWS WITH CURSES SUPPORT! (32-bit)

Now, it looks like the CGMiner we're all used to. :-)

It's available on my miner compilation page at http://sgminer.builders (Yes, that's a real URL)
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