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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 101. (Read 262908 times)

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The Geniuses at Work Corporation, the parent company of bitcoin mining hardware specialist GAW Miners, has acquired a controlling stake in cloud mining provider ZenMiner for $8m.

GAW Miners had originally announced a partnership deal with ZenMiner earlier this month. At the time, ZenMiner agreed to provide cloud hashing services as part of a broader strategic partnership.

In the latest deal, GAW Corp. acquired a controlling stake in the cloud hosting company. GAW CEO Josh Garza told CoinDesk, the stake purchase follows a period of close collaboration between the two companies, and that the development also reflects the growing role of hardware hosting in bitcoin mining company business models.

As Garza explained, the deal will allow GAW customers to either receive their miners through the mail or immediately begin hashing through the hosting service. By bridging the connection between hardware seller and hosting service, miners can generate revenue more quickly, he said.

Garza explained that the deal’s main benefit is that it puts more power in the hands of hardware-buying customers, saying:

“I just want to help miners make some money, help get them some return on investment (ROI). I’m just so tired of manufacturers milking miners for all the money they can.”


ZenCloud is fucking run by ZeusMiner so if they own fucking majority in ZenCloud would they not own majority in ZeusMiner.

That's like saying Ohh we own Windows and Xbox but we don't own the majority of Microsoft  Roll Eyes
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Here's the annoucement.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/11076/back-from-vegas

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HashPoints will be worth 1¢ each!
That’s right. While you’re still going to earn the same value from HP inside of ZenCloud as you have been, we felt you weren’t getting the rewards you deserved for contributing to the community in HashTalk. So we made them worth more!

The HP you’ve already earned will be converted to be worth exactly what they are now based on BTC/USD. But now inside HashTalk, you’re going to earn far more value for posting great threads, answering questions, making people laugh… and especially for getting CEO upvotes (100HP each!). Each individual HP will be worth much more now, so start racking them up!

There will be new things that we will be releasing that can only be purchased with HashPoints

And on the topic of getting more value… there’s some tough news I need to share with you. If you’ve noticed MultiPool lately, you’ll see that the pool’s payouts have fallen considerably and are approaching a Hashlet’s maintenance costs faster than we’d like.

Is there something we can do about it?

I think you know the answer to that…

We’re temporarily increasing MultiHashlet Payouts to keep them profitable
We will temporarily augment the payout of all MultiHashlets that could possibly return a negative payout. The method is to cancel out the negative payout and simply return at least $0.01 USD per MH instead of the previously negative amount. This is a temporary fix we’re introducing to keep MultiHashlet owners’ ROI numbers green while we monitor MH pool’s performance and work on a permanent solution if we need one.

This is one of the reasons we think Hashlets are the best and most advanced miners in the world. MultiHashlet owners are going to be the first to see some of our innovations kick in for the first time that are specifically designed to keep ROIs up longer than any at-home miner ever could be capable of. Just keep in mind this isn’t exclusive t MultiHashlet. Every Hashlet you own is designed to be just as adjustable so we can squeeze more ROI out of the system than ever befre.

And while we’re on the topic of ROI, I want to say something about the price of Bitcoin lately. I want to say that we understand these last few weeks have been a hardship to many of you. We know better than most. We don’t sell a single bitcoin for fiat as a company policy. So we’re right there with you not just during the good times, but the tough times as well.

But we’re a big company. We can sustain though market volatility better than most people and companies. We haven’t lost sight of that. We know this time has been a struggle for many of you.

We want to do something about it.

We have a few ideas that we’re in the process of considering, but let me make one thing clear. We want to do something to help you keep your spreadsheets positive, even during hard times.

We can afford to take a hit to our balance sheet to help our customers hold out during fluctuations in the currency markets. We all in this together. We’re not going to win unless we all do.

So stay tuned for a huge update coming soon!

And speaking of updates, I want to share with you some info on the ZenCloud Buy & Sell Marketplace.

Tens of thousands of Hashlets have been traded in the last week alone! Thousands of users have been able to purchase Hashlets at discounted prices while other users have been able to convert their Hashlets to BTC by selling to fellow users.

This is huge.

Now not only are Hashlets the safest, he most advanced, and the best selling miners in the world, but we’ve done something else that’s extraordinary.

You’ve all built the largest and most active miner trading platform in the world!
And it’s only going to get bigger and better once we roll out Project Prime.

I want to say more… I’m not allowed to :grinning:

So instead I’ll continue with what I can say to you…

Genesis Hashlets will now be able to be bought and sold on the Hashlet marketplace!
It took some time to build out our trading system so it would work with SHA equipment. But now that the work is done, Genesis owners can enjoy the marketplace just as our Solo and Legendary users have. We have more plans for SHA hardware as well.

And now that we’re on the topic of the Marketplace…

We will be cutting off all sales of new Hashlet Primes very soon…..once we do that, you will be able to trade them

Revamped Hashlet Prime Buy Backs are now Active!
Now that we’re completely redoing the ZenCloud database and refactoring all Hashlet profiles, we’ve done the work needed to launch a smoother “Buy Back” system.

We decided to add the Buy Back program because we know some users bought into Primes before they knew other options were available. Of course Primes are the most powerful Hashlets in the world and they’ll gain even more features over time, but we don’t want anyone sticking with an investment they don’t want.

The Prime Buy-Back guarantee will let you be able to sell it for $40 minus what you’ve mined. This means you can “opt out” of your Prime purchase if an emergency comes up, you want to try another investment, or any other reason at all.

A revamped Buy-Back are not the only feature we’re adding to improve ZenCloud for securing your investments. Some of you have had trouble in a different way.

A handful of users have reportedly listing their Hashlets for sale with inaccurate pricing when using the sell feature in the marketplace. The vast majority of users haven’t had any issue with the interface, we don’t want to leave anyone behind with their investments if we can help it. And so I’m happy to say…

We’ve Added a Confirmation Screen on ZenCloud Sales
We’ve gone to work to ensure every seller has time to double check all the details of their sell order before they list their Hashlets on the marketplace. With the next ZenCloud update, you will see a confirmation screen when you attempt to list your Hashlet for sale. You will have to confirm the sale before your Hashlet is added and can be bought by another user.

But sellers are getting more than just that. Added security is nice, but openness and transparency is just as important. So now, I’m proud to say that…

The Hashlet Marketplace Now Shows Seller Names & Seller’s Custom Message
We’ve reached out to many of you on this feature and the conclusion is clear. You want an active, community driven marketplace that’s very different from traditional stock markets.

This fits exactly into our vision of an open, fair, and transparent Hashlet Market. We want it place for miners to come together and cooperate on buying and selling the best miners in the world.

So from now on, you’ll know see exactly who you’re buying from and be able to read a message from the seller before you buy (if they leave one, it’s not required).

This feature will promote the type of marketplace culture we want and add accountability and security to individuals and organizations running charity events and investors making large purchases.

We know we’ll get some pushback for this change, but that’s fine. We’re building ZenCloud to be the best cloud mining platform in the world, but like anything else, it won’t be for everyone.

And now… the moment many of you have been waiting for…

Prime Hashlets can now Convert to SHA-256!
Hashlet has been so successful that we didn’t have to just add SHA hardware to meet with the demand, we had to add a whole newdatacenter! This has taken quite some time, as you might imagine. But now we’ve reached the point where we can give Prime owners the SHA access they’re entitled to. Now you’ll be able to target SHA-256 pools with your Primes. The conversion ratio is 40GHs SHA for every 1MHs Scrypt.

Normally this is where an announcement like this would end, but I wanted to fill you all in a little more on the October cryptocurrency conferences in Las Vegas. You’ve been feeling the impact of much of our team away from the office - so at least you should see what’s been going on!

GAW was invited to InsideBitcoins & Hashers United in Las Vegas, which we’ve been attending this week. I’ve been asked personally to speak at both.

We know most of you couldn’t make it to Vegas, so we wanted to share some photos with you and give you a chance to read the speech I gave at Inside Bitcoins.

But there’s one more thing.

To celebrate GAW Miners in the spotlight at some of the biggest Bitcoin Mining events in the world, we’ve decided to do something special. We’ve given something special to a few lucky people who visited us in Vegas.

Introducing The Limited Edition Legendary Vegas Hashlet!
The collectors among you have been loudly asking for a new Legendary for quite some time. And while we’re keeping Legendary Hashlets extremely rare and exclusive, we thought we should release some for special occasions like these.

We’re only releasing 100 Vegas Hashlets. The only way to get them is through the marketplace or if you visited at either of the conferences and won it on our Prize Wheel.

That makes them among the rarest of all the Legendary Hashlets we plan to release.

And to enhance their value, we’re giving Vegas Hashlets the same features as Hashlet Primes!
We don’t want Vegas Hashlets to be rare. We want them to be incredibly powerful as well. That’s why we’re amping them up to Prime status.

Cut off the first part of the announcement, as it doesn't say much beyond Josh admitting that they might have sent too many people to the conference, and have formed some partnerships which should boost Project Prime (launch date postponed to Q4 instead of Oct 23).

Another post said that they have acquired some other companies as well.
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The CEO made a post on HT with the sole purpose of letting everyone know that he will announce something in a few hours or later today or whatever the phrasing was. And then didn't announce anything and didn't offer any explanation

No-one whose been 'online' for more than 5 minutes takes any notice about 'coming soon' webpages, forum posts etc

Plus the whole concept is counter-productive anyway - either make the announcement or dont - no-one gives-a-monkeys' about annoucements of upcoming annoucements :p
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Well just to clear things up a bit. They did go to Vegas, there is a thread with photos and there was a contest for some GAW fans to go along to the conference with GAW team. The Vegas trip was certainly no secret.
Excuse me kind member can you point me to this form, i really want to see this vegas trip picutres, might be my next vacation destination once  i buy alot of hashlets of gaw website and get airline miles LOL  Grin

this is one, but there was  a whole thread in there with pics inside the jet and all (the jet made a lot of people upset)

https://hashtalk.org/topic/10321/inside-bitcoins-and-hashers-united-las-vegas

I know that the CEO of BFL bought a house with customers' money, but you can't flame the guy for flying a jet to a conference to promote his business. He didn't buy the damn thing! Cheesy
We're talking about a guy who paid $1000000 for a domain, nobody sane will expect him to fly coach.

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That whole hashtalk forum is a cesspool of hate and anger at the moment.

If you aren't attacking Josh and company you will get downvoted hard.  The place is full of anger bitter teenage virgins all angry after the weekend of no sex again and gunning hard for confrontation...but hide behind their downvotes lol

Its really pathetic in there today.


LOL teen virgins i dont know if you just saying that or that was your teenage years, but i sure was never angry over that issue. Hell now that im married and have " open " fun marriage i still got more fun back then. I really hope you are wrong though about angry bitter people i personally dont use ht

Not mine I imagined thats what it would be like if such were the case and tagging it on with how bad they were acting.  I just observe on there and read some thread now and then but dont comment since even the most normal post gets down voted into a banning lol.
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fucking cults the lot of them
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That whole hashtalk forum is a cesspool of hate and anger at the moment.

If you aren't attacking Josh and company you will get downvoted hard.  The place is full of anger bitter teenage virgins all angry after the weekend of no sex again and gunning hard for confrontation...but hide behind their downvotes lol

Its really pathetic in there today.


LOL teen virgins i dont know if you just saying that or that was your teenage years, but i sure was never angry over that issue. Hell now that im married and have " open " fun marriage i still got more fun back then. I really hope you are wrong though about angry bitter people i personally dont use ht
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That whole hashtalk forum is a cesspool of hate and anger at the moment.

If you aren't attacking Josh and company you will get downvoted hard.  The place is full of anger bitter teenage virgins all angry after the weekend of no sex again and gunning hard for confrontation...but hide behind their downvotes lol

Its really pathetic in there today.

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All I care is that I am making more BTC every day at GAW, and I have the data to prove it.

You should check LTC gear...no groupies..no god-like CEO...more profit.....

LTC gear maybe good but its always sold out....You could also say it is a scam too...but i wouldn't. Just like GAW its a money maker.

People are too fanboyish on here to see its all about making money.

All these clouds hashing sites are the same, but not all of them make the same amount of money.

LTC Gear need to open up more....
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It will be announced today. I promise. Don't even try to downvote, I'll ban you just for looking at my post.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/11003/delay-in-announcement

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Hello, I wanted to apologize for the delay in our announcement yesterday. Between interviews and all the one on one time I spent with customers yesterday, my time got away from me. My team waits for my go ahead, so it’s entirely my fault.

There are a few things I wanted to check in on this morning. Once I get the answers I need, I will post our update. This will happen before the end of today. Thanks for your patience

Josh

Oops they did it again Smiley

Looks like another "today" came and went. Unless they moved to another time zone and forgot to announce that fact too. I'm almost starting to feel sorry for the HT gang camping out waiting for whatever it is.
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LOL good stuff hey im glad you said something about hashpoints how do you use them? I see no option in my dashboard do i need to have so many to use them or do i need a certain hashlet to use them

Technically you should be able to apply them towards a new hashlet purchase, if you make that purchase in ZenCloud - there is a checkbox for that in the checkout process. But I've seen someone complain that hashpoints don't get applied even when that checkbox is checked. Not sure if this had been fixed yet, so be careful.

Three days ago it wen't wrong. Got BTC deducted and no HP's. I've added it to another ticket (lost split genesis hashlet) but no response yet.
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It will be announced today. I promise. Don't even try to downvote, I'll ban you just for looking at my post.

This is a great example of unconstructive idiocy that will most likely get you banned if written on hashtalk.

Lol...There is a lot of threat here in bitcointalk.
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true, but i think he moved to asics, he gets them made in china, im sure i read a post bout it here or the ltctalk

Here's the issue I'm having with hating GAWMiners though...

GAWMiners owns the majority of ZeusMiner and ZeusMiner makes some of the most cost effective and profitable SCRYPT Based ASiC(s) currently available.

So should everyone stop purchasing one of the most cost effective SCRYPT ASiC(s) simply because GAWMiners owns the majority in the company.

It's like saying Ohh I don't like Bill Gates so I'm not gonna ever use a Windows Operating System.
I've missed that reference. where have you seen that GAW owns the majority of ZeusMiner?Huh?

Wondering the same thing, don't recall hearing anything about that.
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It will be announced today. I promise. Don't even try to downvote, I'll ban you just for looking at my post.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/11003/delay-in-announcement

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Hello, I wanted to apologize for the delay in our announcement yesterday. Between interviews and all the one on one time I spent with customers yesterday, my time got away from me. My team waits for my go ahead, so it’s entirely my fault.

There are a few things I wanted to check in on this morning. Once I get the answers I need, I will post our update. This will happen before the end of today. Thanks for your patience

Josh

I'm glad there was an announcement made to let people know that there is an announcement coming.
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It will be announced today. I promise. Don't even try to downvote, I'll ban you just for looking at my post.

This is a great example of unconstructive idiocy that will most likely get you banned if written on hashtalk.
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FWIW I have achieved ~105% ROI on LTC Gear after 6 weekly payouts. I'm still 90% sure they are a ponzi-like structure, but someone in this thread asked a while ago about the LTC Gear ROI, so here it is. It's interesting though that they are still selling at the same USD price as ~2 months ago (even the coupon that was supposed to expire is still valid) but the old shares have been multiplied so are actually earning MORE than the new shares,  which are more expensive in BTC/LTC now due to exchange rates. In other words ROI is getting worse for new purchases I think.

Sorry for offtopic, feel free to downvote me.
i am down voting you to hell lol jk but i might check them out, you know if some site said we are a ponzi scheme how lucky do you feel then i would still do it since im a gambling man. At least i know to set my expectations to 0 and anything above that is good news lol  Cool


yeah ltcgear is a very good alternative Wink
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It will be announced today. I promise. Don't even try to downvote, I'll ban you just for looking at my post.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/11003/delay-in-announcement

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Hello, I wanted to apologize for the delay in our announcement yesterday. Between interviews and all the one on one time I spent with customers yesterday, my time got away from me. My team waits for my go ahead, so it’s entirely my fault.

There are a few things I wanted to check in on this morning. Once I get the answers I need, I will post our update. This will happen before the end of today. Thanks for your patience

Josh
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LOL good stuff hey im glad you said something about hashpoints how do you use them? I see no option in my dashboard do i need to have so many to use them or do i need a certain hashlet to use them

Technically you should be able to apply them towards a new hashlet purchase, if you make that purchase in ZenCloud - there is a checkbox for that in the checkout process. But I've seen someone complain that hashpoints don't get applied even when that checkbox is checked. Not sure if this had been fixed yet, so be careful.

Yeah, I had about 21k+ hashpoints that weren't deducted when I purchased some Zen Hashlets. Definitely had the box checked too. Submitted a ticket pretty quickly about it, but still waiting for a response.
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FWIW I have achieved ~105% ROI on LTC Gear after 6 weekly payouts. I'm still 90% sure they are a ponzi-like structure, but someone in this thread asked a while ago about the LTC Gear ROI, so here it is. It's interesting though that they are still selling at the same USD price as ~2 months ago (even the coupon that was supposed to expire is still valid) but the old shares have been multiplied so are actually earning MORE than the new shares,  which are more expensive in BTC/LTC now due to exchange rates. In other words ROI is getting worse for new purchases I think.

Sorry for offtopic, feel free to downvote me.
i am down voting you to hell lol jk but i might check them out, you know if some site said we are a ponzi scheme how lucky do you feel then i would still do it since im a gambling man. At least i know to set my expectations to 0 and anything above that is good news lol  Cool
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