Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 20. (Read 262906 times)

And it is gone...

There's a new post there 

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/#comment-18

Further confirmation:
http://www.cantor.com/public/aboutus/sfraser.html

I think this just boils down to the fact that Josh does not understand how Blockchains or Cryptos work. He has contradicted himself numerous times about this.

This was discussed multiple times already and always pops out at least once a month.
To sum it up:
-poster deleted the account
-no proof of transaction
-no negative feedback in the sellers account (and I don't believe a scammed person wouldn't leave it)
-acording to Josh it was a blackmail attempt, and not the only one. You can find at least 2 recent ones on this forum.

This is old news and we've seen it before. There's enough flags about GAW without bringing this up yet again.

And so is this:  http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/

This is interesting:  http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/cfkvbbk

Looks that way: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartafraser

What is amazing about this whole thing is how little GAW understands the roots and reasons for success of bitcoin.  This paragraph (though written by a GAW fanboy, or more likely employee/co-conspirator of Josh), and similar statements made by Josh about how Primes will control the blockchain, proves that far from de-centralized, hashcoin would be under the total control of one company that controls the Primes: GAW.   That is assuming, of course, that there is even such a thing as a Prime and its not all a virtual coin simulation/game which seems at least equally likely.

There is no way any legitimate retailer would take hashcoin when it is controlled by a single company with zero track record in finance.  No way ever.

GAW seems very overbashed,

Furthermore; two of my favorite counter-indicators on these
threads are present which is rather bullish.

Market sense: Tentative buy on dips.

That list doesn't mean anything. A lot of those e-tailers can only be used through sites like Gyft.

ATM, Hashbase looks like it's trying to replace Gyft by using Hashcoin instead of BTC.

This is a huge, blatant pump.  This new 'hashcoin' is going to failure in a huge way.

"our Prime Hashlets are not just dumbfuck miner toys with a daily payback. They’re going to control the entire HashCoin blockchain. Yes. They will control every transaction. Read this paragraph again, just to be sure you understand every word. "

So, let me get this straight, GAW sells Hashlet Prime, creates HashCoin, then the Primes 'control' the whole blockchain? Yeah, ok.  

Oh I know how they do it... I am very educated on how they do it and the problems they are encountering and I am not going to tell until I see if Josh knows.

I want to know how Josh's Crapto Coin will perform in this situation...

http://endb-consolidated.aihit.com/00D74CA4/people.htm
Probably Stuart Fraser (partner of Cantor Fitzgerald). Has ownership in GAW and is on the board.

Newegg, Overstock, Amazon, Tesla, Dell are not big...
Here's a list of sites that accept bitcoin, so you can eduacate yourself.
http://www.bitcoinvalues.net/who-accepts-bitcoins-payment-companies-stores-take-bitcoins.html

Dogecoin also started as "pathetic and fictional".

Sitting here thinking about this... has set me off, it is tirade time and school some of these idiots and their CEO.

Josh you clearly have no clue of how business works.

There is a series of reasons why BTC is not being accepted by big merchants (perhaps one day it will) much less some pathetic made up fictional coin he is pumping up. Give us a reason why Big Vendors or anyone else will use your CRAPTOcoin, over BTC. You know why?

Here we go it is education time for you.

Overstock is the only big vendor even trying to make BTC work, perhaps a few are running back room experiments but at this moment in time the big guys are sitting on the side lines is for these reasons. Josh do you have a clue of how Overstock is trying to make BTC a more acceptable payment system? I do... so be cautious with your answer.

Do you know of the volatility factors, that are of great concern to the fortune 1000 venders? Like Yesterday BTC rose 20 points during the course of the business day. A few days before that it was dropping numerous points. So Josh explain to us how your coin can reduce the volatility factor and give these Vendors a reason to use your coin.

For fuck sake... if you have a fortune 1000 company accepting crypto currency they cannot operate with that volatility. Lets say a company is doing 1000 BTC a day in sales. How do you price the items you are selling? On minute BTC is at $322 and the next BTC is at $334. How do you decide what price to charge a customer? Will the customer be willing to pay the price asked with these volatile swings? But lets say no matter that aspect of it, the retailer still does 1000 BTC a day of commerce. Do they book the exchange on a by minute, by hour or by day rate? Can you imagine the computing power it would take to keep up with the volatility and re adjusting the price constantly?
For all you know the price could change before you could check out... and think you have been over charged and then argue with the clerk or manager, demanding a refund... thus tying up the work force. Then exactly how do you "do a refund" if the price has moved during the arguement?

Ok Josh you are a CEO you should understand this... so how can a retailer book the days revs with the movements in constant motion... one hour you are at a profit, the next you are at a loss. This is an accounting nightmare. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS with big retailers accepting crypto.  Especially YOUR CRAPTO coin. Will your CRAPTO Coin the volatility exposure to the users of your Crapto coin? What legitimate reason would a fortune 1000 Company have to use your Crapto coin? They dont care about the technology... they dont care about speed and one thing for fucking sure if you dont have the answers to this they damned sure wont choose your Crapto coin over BTC which is far ahead in this area of ECONOMIC concern.

Ok Mr. CEO answer that then we can move along to the next elephant in your CRAPTOcoin...

Thanks for posting this.

That is beyond a koolaid drinker... clearly written by an uneducated journalistic poser, that has no clue of investing or what "big vendors want". I mean he can be trying to be hip and cool and all that. But if he wrote an article about me and my company like that, I would have an attorney sitting on his front step waiting to serve some papers.

That kind of writing will not attract any whales, vendors, investment bankers, venture capitalist or anything else.... Seriously WTF are these people thinking? This is beyond stupid...  

I had to post this cuz i thought it was pretty funny...

http://gawhsi.com/aboutus_light

"Josh Garza is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of GAW High-Speed Internet Inc and Optima Computers, the business from which GAW viagra online order was born."