Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 21. (Read 262955 times)

I think that market report is pretty objective as such.

Don´t necessarily agree with the market sense but that´s OK.

"""Hashlet Market Report 6 Nov 2014
Prices on Prime Hashlets continued to fall throughout the past day. After polling sellers, it’s clear that they have a variety of reasons for selling. 40% responded that they were converting assets to lock in profits and provide disposable income. 14% sold to cover basic family needs and lifestyle changes. 26% are not clear on the future benefits of HashCoin and the remaining 20% had other specific reasons for selling their Primes.
Prime Hashlets
Prime Hashlet prices fell back several dollars yesterday due to continued selling pressure. Best available price for a single 1 MH Prime is $36.75. Lowest unit price on a larger block is currently $35.30. We believe Primes are substantially undervalued at these prices. This morning 453 Prime Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.
Market Sense: Hold until HashCoin release, many deals available below $40.
Zen Hashlets
Zen Hashlet prices are stable with the floor at $12.50. Best price for a single 1 MH Zen is $12.49. Lowest unit price on a large block is currently $11.91. This morning 1,334 Zen Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.
Market Sense: Buy below $13.00 and hold until HashCoin release.
Genesis Hashlets
Genesis prices continue to be stable on the Zencloud resale market, currently it’s the best choice if you’re looking for Bitcoin payouts. The floor is maintaining at about the $5.50 mark. Best price for a single 10 GH Genesis unit is currently $5.77, lowest unit price on a large block is $5.16. This morning 580 Genesis Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.
Market Sense: A good value below $6.00.
Other Hashlets
Recent price drops on Multi, Clever & Waffle Hashlets make them more attractive, but they offer little return with BTC below $400. The Expected Value (EV) is still significantly less than cost, unless you find liquidation prices on the open market."""

It is disappointing to read. When that site started out posting a daily market summary on HT I was hoping it would be an independent news source - you know, something I could just go read the daily summary and not have to bother logging in to zencloud and seeing what the latest GAW inspired pumps and dumps were doing to the market. Since I sold off everything except a single prime I haven't been paying much attention there. Now it is the farthest thing from independent.

I'm still following this for the entertainment value at this point. Does anyone know of a non-koolaid drinker who is posting market summaries of what is going on there?

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

You got hand it to Homero [ Garza; Homero Joshua (East Longmeadow, MA) H. Josh Garza, Chief Executive Officer ] he really has suckered in the most guillable people on the planet, hook line and sinker.

Trying to read that vomitous site of his, they are all happy clappy and giddy about their fantasy coin over taking BTC, giggling about which stores they would like to see accepting it. What their first purchase with their new shiny plastic card will be using it.

Utterly sad. The real scum are the mods-resellers egging them on. These sad little people truly believe they will be mining a coin, each debating the other about diffuclities and network blocks and how their little fake miner things will be pointed to them and start hashing away.

Homero absolutely knows what he is doing. Trolls by now and again, claiming the first round was a sellout and as predicated over-subscribed. Disappears for a day or two to apologies and claim he is 'busy with contracts'  letting those sad freaks believe that that means he must be signing the contracts with the first round investors.

Really really sad that they are all lapping it up. But as one can see by that incredibly nauseating childish forum he created, those that have flocked to it and embrace and actually use all the childish gimmicks it has to offer, this make believe fairy tale he is presenting to them fits right in.

Homero has it all figured out but alas it will all catch up with him. These schemes always end in tears.  

@Searing, @JeffW
I was throwing salt in open wounds.   Sorry 

My bad investments are funny now, but they weren't at the time!  Like the 12 BTC I lost by blindly reinvesting in scrypt.cc. 

@Searing - At least you received a physical miner. I ordered a @250mh/s Viper from the Alpha Technology thieves. Live and learn.

yeah kick a guy when he is down...march 27th KNC could do no wrong ..I mean the 3TH Jupiters (frankenjupiters) they made had issues but even
then KNC came thru and fixed or gave modules...compensated...Titan's ZIPPO

so all was well in my little world march 27th....but KNC going full out to the dark side ...like a nun sprinting off to be a porn star...I was completely blind sided
KNC saw big $$$ and reputation be damned.....was tossed off the boat w/o warning imho...

and no refunds or compensation of any kind at all ...which now seems to mean from their own words bad chips/dies/fire hazard and 7 weeks late from their ship time ...but still no refunds
and their own timeline on RMA now is 8 weeks (prob later) as well...going to virtual cloud with no pesky customers anymore ...no need to even try or give
a f*ck....so probably this should be a rule of thumb to all ...no pre-orders ever again imho

due to a bank error I had to declare (legal miner usa) paid no taxes due to expenses and equip 2013 and this year was dismal likely no issue with paying taxes 2014 either

my one saving point for this year and last year is I can take this off as equip depreciation which means if I string the biz along for 3 more years after jan 2015
I get 25% off my equipment costs back in real $$$ applied to what I would pay in taxes....so my $10,131.80 Titan only cost me in reality $7598.85 so what ever I
can shave off of that mining scrypt at this point anyway... I'm golden....not much ...but does take some of the sting out of being completely blindsided by KNC....
so anyway.....you work with the cards i'm dealt (as most of us know at these btc prices and scrypt prices) ...legal miner wise...knc betrayal wise...

not sure I'd recommend this route to others..but ain't as bad as it could have been....(now I went and jinxed myself!)

New Titan, now there is a winning investment!  

wish GAW would contact me I'd give them a deal on a 300mh Titan NEW IN BOX miner for their hashnet instead...they should offer this option
just don't want to deal with home mining anymore...(like anyone from GAW reads this thread or would have access to someone at their scrypt farm)

nice daydream huh?

I have multiple GAW/Zen accounts because buying accounts was the only second market for a while.  Hashlets still can't be traded.  GAW is getting many new people though everyday.   There has been a lot of excitement built up.   You are wrong to assume it is only a few people, the community is large.  

I'm not involved with any charades going on here, if that is what you meant.


I'm not a hardcore GAW supporter.  There are so many hardcore GAW haters here that it makes any normal person look extreme compared to them.   If I firmly believed in what GAW was doing, I would probably have 10x the amount of primes as I do now.  

I've tried lots of cloud mining companies.   GAW just happens be one of the few that has paid off.  

Thank you for ignoring me kupan787. This in a way proves my point.

As for that guy with multiple accounts... This is also a common tactics on this forum. I could bet you there are more of them on both sides of the fence.
I read a topic in meta about a user with over 40 accounts.

What's really sad is that some people feel the need to make 4 accounts to create the illusion that many people support GAW's shady/scammy business practices.

The only people making GAW look bad is themselves. They could easily remove some of the dozens of redflags but instead they raise new red flags almost daily.

But then again, why remove the red flags when you could just continue marketing to the naive/gullible?


Congrats on your gamble.

It's nice to see that even some of the most hardcore fanatics are having a hard time buying into this new scheme.

Investment advice on this forum may be bad, but anything is better than an astroturfed forum by a company whose only goal is to take your money via every get rich quick scheme known to man.

Like, half-dead money.

There is so many running around here crying about anything they can try to make look bad about GAW.   It is amazing.     While I never trusted GAW/Zen 100%, I was able to invest a dozen bitcoins and get the full amount back in less than three months.   I also have a pretty good amount of Primes and Zens left.  (>100 of each)  

Succeeding required me to change my plans multiple times and I did get hit with some bad events.   However the environment there isn't anything like the people here make it out to be.   Yes there are problems, but there are also opportunities.  

I don't know how this coin they are working on is going to pan out, but that is the game now.   Since I'm unsure, I'm not going to invest anymore there.   If things change, then I might.  One thing is for sure though, I'm not going to take investment advice from this thread.    

Sorry but English is not my birth language . Could you explain your sentence ?

Almost 4 THS yields .016/day ?!

Now; that´s comatose.

Thanks for the comment

How is this for a moral dilemma: should we report this puppetmaster to GAW sig campaign for fraud?

Or let Panda-the-forum-police figure it out on her own?

He was probably disrespectful and off topic in his support tickets. Yep, another mystery solved right there