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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 36. (Read 262951 times)

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My initial thoughts was the "major retail adoption" was the fact that they would have a credit card act as the middle man. So in-essence, the retailers aren't accepting hashcoin so much as they are accepting Visa/MC. There are countless other compaines bringing to market a BTC debit/credit card, which I personally don't see the point of.

However, in the timeline image, it shows Major Retail Adoption before Credit Card Purchasing. So are they implying that they will have major retailers on-board and accepting hashcoin directly? Seeing as how most major retailers are still dipping their toes into bitcoin, I find it hard to believe that hashcoin is going to have direct interaction with retailers so early on. Why the hell would walmart/amazon work with a no-name crypto, when they have yet to embrace BTC? Unless Josh plans on paying them heavily, which if your a multi-billion dollar company, i'd imagine you'd have to pay them quite a bit.

they are hoping that the liquidity they are bringing to maintain stability of the coin will attract merchants, CC is just an interim solution to having all merchants accept bitcoin or hashcoin. like any deployed software technology, you need to make sure you cover those on legacy systems to succeed.
legendary
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My initial thoughts was the "major retail adoption" was the fact that they would have a credit card act as the middle man. So in-essence, the retailers aren't accepting hashcoin so much as they are accepting Visa/MC. There are countless other compaines bringing to market a BTC debit/credit card, which I personally don't see the point of.

However, in the timeline image, it shows Major Retail Adoption before Credit Card Purchasing. So are they implying that they will have major retailers on-board and accepting hashcoin directly? Seeing as how most major retailers are still dipping their toes into bitcoin, I find it hard to believe that hashcoin is going to have direct interaction with retailers so early on. Why the hell would walmart/amazon work with a no-name crypto, when they have yet to embrace BTC? Unless Josh plans on paying them heavily, which if your a multi-billion dollar company, i'd imagine you'd have to pay them quite a bit.

Nope, they are still thinking about it all, see the link: https://hashtalk.org/topic/16399/some-thoughts-on-merchant-adoption
legendary
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On merchant adoption:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16399/some-thoughts-on-merchant-adoption

A couple of notable bits:

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This is what we are working on. So a purchase at Target or Amazon might first have to be with a debit card linked to your online coin wallet at HashBase. One day, it may be able to pay them directly.

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The months are numbered until you will be able to swipe your card at your favorite merchant to buy a new pair of shoes

So perhaps he hasn't talked to the CEO of Amazon yet, should call him tomorrow morning. I'd like my months till I can get rid of HashPointCoins to be numbered in low single digits, please.
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My initial thoughts was the "major retail adoption" was the fact that they would have a credit card act as the middle man. So in-essence, the retailers aren't accepting hashcoin so much as they are accepting Visa/MC. There are countless other compaines bringing to market a BTC debit/credit card, which I personally don't see the point of.

However, in the timeline image, it shows Major Retail Adoption before Credit Card Purchasing. So are they implying that they will have major retailers on-board and accepting hashcoin directly? Seeing as how most major retailers are still dipping their toes into bitcoin, I find it hard to believe that hashcoin is going to have direct interaction with retailers so early on. Why the hell would walmart/amazon work with a no-name crypto, when they have yet to embrace BTC? Unless Josh plans on paying them heavily, which if your a multi-billion dollar company, i'd imagine you'd have to pay them quite a bit.
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Please be careful with feeding Anonymousg64 here, an account dormant for 4 months suddenly comes back to life and posts exclusively in this thread.

sorry if i dont waste my time just browsing bitcointalk, i did visit a few thrings not logged on in that period
legendary
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Please be careful with feeding Anonymousg64 here, an account dormant for 4 months suddenly comes back to life and posts exclusively in this thread.
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Wonder how the zenpool contract negotiations are going.

I don't believe they have any time for that. All of their resources must be focused towards writing the remaining 90% of the white paper and perhaps actually developing and testing that thing in the next 3-5 weeks (not sure when exactly the network needs to be live - there are no dates announced past round 3, December 8 ).

Since they evidently start contract re-negotiations the day after contracts expire I don´t think the timetables of their other schemes can be taken very seriously.
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hmmmm.have a GAW tagline...is it GAW making money? is it GAW losing money (thus their coin) is it folk still making  money or no way sure wtf is going on yet?

not sure but thinking about how 'silly hairless human primates behave" on any given day...i probably SHOULD keep the tagline and get some of these GAW coins

because at least initially.....(ponzi? silly humans? greed?) they are likely imho to go thru the roof

still at a loss on wtf is really going on with GAW .....still hanging on to the gaw tagline below...but sheesh........is it an evolution to something that at least

kinda sorta going to work ..or is it a slowly everchanging morphing ponzi scheme.......?

confused to say the least guess this next month of the below tagline I will get popcorn and watch imho it will all blow up this month or work in some half

assed manner..either/or? (better minds then me wtf is going on?)



in a world of legit(decreed by the masses and elites) and scam ponzi schemes, what do you expect, the whole world is living some lie or another
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Clueless!
hmmmm.have a GAW tagline...is it GAW making money? is it GAW losing money (thus their coin) is it folk still making  money or no way sure wtf is going on yet?

not sure but thinking about how 'silly hairless human primates behave" on any given day...i probably SHOULD keep the tagline and get some of these GAW coins

because at least initially.....(ponzi? silly humans? greed?) they are likely imho to go thru the roof

still at a loss on wtf is really going on with GAW .....still hanging on to the gaw tagline below...but sheesh........is it an evolution to something that at least

kinda sorta going to work ..or is it a slowly everchanging morphing ponzi scheme.......?

confused to say the least guess this next month of the below tagline I will get popcorn and watch imho it will all blow up this month or work in some half

assed manner..either/or? (better minds then me wtf is going on?)

legendary
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https://bpip.org
Wonder how the zenpool contract negotiations are going.

I don't believe they have any time for that. All of their resources must be focused towards writing the remaining 90% of the white paper and perhaps actually developing and testing that thing in the next 3-5 weeks (not sure when exactly the network needs to be live - there are no dates announced past round 3, December 8 ).
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wow, you sure are a contribution to humanity and the quality of living everywhere

you must worship Ayn Rand, am i correct?

but you stole that image, http://knoxdaytrader.com/uncategorized/trading-desk/
and photoshoped it

im afraid your situation worst then i though, your actually a poor man suffering of delusional fixations for unattainable levels of wealth who thought he made the right decision selling his 5 primes at 34$
or maybe worse, your a basement dweller of your grandmothers house, your mother didnt let you stay
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and now you suffer from sellout self validation syndrome, congratulation

Just another day in the office. ;-)

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Wonder how the zenpool contract negotiations are going.
sr. member
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and now you suffer from sellout self validation syndrome, congratulation

you will seek every opportunity to make sure you made the right choice, your mind will deny any other reality that invalidates your choice.
sr. member
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Real or not, there was a time when "it was all good"...

Then I woke up!  Tongue

ZiG
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and I am proud to announce my NEW Coin ...: "RETARDCoin"...(Copyright by ZiG  Grin Grin Grin)...:

"Abstract:

HashRETARDCoin is the first HybridRETARDFlex decentralized cryptographic currency with Transactional RETARDation Immutability based on the work of Satoshi Nakamoto. An enhanced co-algorithmic hashing on the Proof-of-Work RETARDation SHA256 algorithm and an ageless Proof-of-Transactional-Viability RETARDation algorithm progresses the HybridRETARDFlex blockchain through a unique set of Prime RETARD Controllers and a GrowthRETARD-Protected reward scheduling system. "  ... Grin Huh Grin Huh

COMPLETE NONSENSE ... Grin

Are you guys still thinking that you are MINING ...or GAW has anything to do with MINING... Huh Huh Huh

Virtual casino...derivatives ...at their BEST... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

EDIT: RETARDCoin is guaranteed to grow a $1 per day until..."Infinity"...to the "End of Days"..."BELIEVE ME !!!"... Wink ...if NOT ... ask Josh Garza... greatest "Industry Innovator" ... Grin Grin Grin
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skepticism is ok, ad hominem and other attacks is not

people are jumping to conclusion without evidence,
Prime controllers might not have anything to do with the prime miners,

from the white paper draft
"Controllers exist in the peer-to-peer network to assist in the speed of the transactional locking that occurs as part of the Transactional Immutability capabilities of HashCoin."
so it must be a piece of code in the hascoind, a decentralized technology
otherwise it must be a blockchain app


the idea is dead in the water if it brings a central point of failure, so i really doubt thats what they are going for
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There are only so many outcomes for this:

1) Josh really truly believes he is on to something, and is a man of the people and wants to share his idea with the masses. In the process, he makes some good money, but all goes to plan and he is running a true "bitcoin 2.0" crypto-currency.

2) Total scam job. Josh knows it, and is just trying to milk it as long as possible. If that is the case, I can only hope CNBC will run an American Greed episode covering this.

Either way, i'd be sweating the big stuff if I was in his shoes. He has a lot riding on this. If all goes well, he'll be praised, and a lot of people here will be eating crow. If it goes down the crapper, at best he'll be run out of the crypto-space. At worst he'll end up in jail with massive restitution fines against him.

From reading a number of his posts, email announcements, and responses to his customers, I get the feeling the guy has a huge ego. So he has to make this bigger than life image to pump himself up.  Which makes me think that he is somewhere in the middle of the above two options. He may have started as number 1, but slowly crept into number 2. Not because he wanted to run a scam, but he realized he needed money to get his idea off the ground, and the whole thing snowballed.

There is just a lot of promises being made, which as the saying goes "if it's too good to be true..."
Even if I do not subscribe to #1 one bit and put my money on #2, your overall post is very well thought-out and EXCELLENT. Wish we had a tip bot here... You've earned some real coinage.  Cool

Scott-
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